this is way better than a straight bar for deadlifts am i wrong?
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this is way better than a straight bar for deadlifts am i wrong?
this is way better than a straight bar for deadlifts am i wrong?
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Yes
A little less hinge than regular deadlifts.
Neutral grip makes you able to lift a little more, it feels more natural for a lot of people, and the exercise is considered as safer.
If it's better is up for discussion, but for people not competing in powerlifiting it doesn't really matter which one you do.
Which are you supposed to be able to do the most weight with? Conventional DL?
Most people can do more with a trap bar
as a person with relatively long legs, I prefer hex bar because it lets me align the weight with the center of my foot without bonking my shins
this is dumb because you still choose the starting position of you knees in any case and that determines more if it is a 'hinge or squat' than what bar you use.
define 'better'
I much prefer it to conventional Deadlifts though because I don't feel like I'm about to snap my shit up. 6'5 and I find Deadlifts extremely tough to set up
I define it as better because it's more comfortable and I can lift more weight. For those two reasons, I am more likely to do more work and enjoy it.
If you're not competing for deadlifting, I recommend it.
No it’s a meme, you use more muscles associated with the squat for your “deadlift” so your numbers are artificially higher, similar to sumo shortening the rom.
Basically you squat and deadlift to get the most out of those muscle groups or trapbar dead to get a subpar workout of both.
It’s only popular, like the sumo, because people are scared to deadlift normally because they’re dyel pussies.
What if I am a beginner ? I have been stuck at 2 plates using the conventional bar. If I use the trap bar to build up strength for the next 2 plates then it should translate to atleast 3.5 plates on the conventional bar right ?
Squat more
Genetic fallacy
you should incorporate rack pulls instead of needing a trap bar.. the only time you need to consider the trap bar is when you're considering banging another guy
heh
what about shrugs and OHP? is a trap bar okay then
ignore those other morons, people like to gatekeep. Trap bar deadlift is absolutely fine. Do whatever you're most comfortable with
>you use more muscles associated with the squat for your “deadlift” so your numbers are artificially higher,
How can the numbers be artificially higher? You either lift the weight or you don't.
If you don't put yourself in the most mechanically ineffective position you are cheating
this is my squat form
So I can ditch squat and deads and do them for leg day.
you lift more because it's a superior more biomechanically optimal movement. there's no reason to deadlift conventionally if you have access to a hex bar and don't compete in powerlifting
>It’s only popular, like the sumo, because people are scared to deadlift normally because they’re dyel pussies.
bullshit, it's more dependent on the individual leverages than on the ROM. most records are done with the conventional
>You recruit more muscles and lift more weight so it's bad
Imagine being this moronic
>artificially higher
Weight is weight. Same body lifting more weight Is an improvement
>am I wrong
Yes
I'm not taking the advice of an obese moron that crippled himself with his own workout plan.
It's hilarious that the most "dangerous" thing Ripple could think off is that have some slight instability back and forth.
Unlike the completely safe barbell with absolutely no motion in any directions whatsoever.
>links video of a moron
Very cool, got anything else that is completely useless?
heh
is a deadlift straight bar good to use for bicep curls? asking for a friend
If you are not competing, there is literally no movement that you *HAVE* to do. There's a gazillion alternatives for any given movement so if you don't like the conventional ones, you can pick an alternative that you like and do it instead. Certain movement categories aren't even necessary at all: you don't have to do any floor pulls (conv deadlifts, sumo deadlifts, trap bar deadlifts, etc) if you don't want to, you could just spam good mornings and RDLs and you would be completely fine.
Just do what works for you, and make sure that you enjoy it
This was memed into being considered safer by autistic d1 coaches thinking the genetic freaks they work with are blowing up because of their innovative BS. Regular deadlifts are much more stable on the saggital plane, which is where your shit is by far most likely to snap.
>Regular deadlifts are much more stable on the saggital plane, which is where your shit is by far most likely to snap.
This is irrelevant unless someone walks along and literally starts pushing the bar around (which they won't be able to do if the weight is heavy enough anyway lmao), so unless you have psychos in your gym you'll be fine
> saggital plane, which is where your shit is by far most likely to snap.
Citation needed
>deadlifts are much more stable on the saggital plane
Not to any significant extent. You're just parroting ripplebreasts' argument where he had to go out of his way to try and have a trap bar deadlift look slightly unstable by having his trainee lift it like a moron.
Yes
It feels better bcuz of less ROM, easier grip and less strain on lower back, just did 3x5 150kg while I can't do 2 good reps with 160kg conventional
I personally do dumbbell squats because I'm afraid of normal deadlifts destroying my back. I feel like they give me most of the benefits of deadlifts but with only 5% of the danger. And while I've never tried a hex bar, I feel like they'd be much safer than normal deadlifts as well.
Suitcase box squats are the way to go. Frick squatting heavy. 3x10 of 20/40/60 goblets, then 3x10 40/50/60 in each hand, ass to grass. If that doesn't get your legs growing, frick you.
>more upright and natural position so you won’t nuke your spine
>center of mass is under you instead of in front
>much better carryover to athletics
>more knee flexion
>can lift more and do so safely
Yup the trap bar is far superior no matter what the fatty ripplebreasts platoon says
Like the sumo it just doesn't do much for the back, especially the crucial erectors and low back
Trap bar DL and OHP are superior yes
yes, straight bar deadlifts are suboptimal for gains compared to a trap bar
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21659894/
> Across the submaximal loads, significantly greater peak force, peak velocity and peak power values were produced during the HBD compared to during the SBD (p < 0.05). The results demonstrate that the choice of barbell used to perform the deadlift has a significant effect on a range of kinematic and kinetic variables. The enhanced mechanical stimulus obtained with the hexagonal barbell suggests that in general the HBD is a more effective exercise than the SBD.
I always figured it was an orthopedic device for 70 year old guys with bad backs or gout in their wrists who can’t lift without it. Either that or for the upper range of power lifters to gain a small mechanical advantage.
No
>trap bar
the answer is right there in the name
Its only good for farmer's walks on a field.
it's a gay cope lift for unathletic morons who can't bend over. and yes you can flip it over and not use the high handles, but no one EVER does it that way. always high handles. and i've never seen any strong irl ever do these. only 50 year old goobers with back injuries and skeletal Black folk. even sumo is less gay. trap bar deads are the longboarding of lifting weights.
I never liked it. I don't like how the bar isn't in contact with your body and the handles are way out to the sides.
very nice if you home gym and dont wanna spend $200 on another barbell