This shit tanks trash enzyme 5alpha which is responsible for trash hormone DHT and few other depression neurosteroids production, which is overall res...

This shit tanks trash enzyme 5alpha which is responsible for trash hormone DHT and few other depression neurosteroids production, which is overall responsible for weak heart, bad mood, skin aging, enlarged prostate and slap head for many. One of the rare cases when pharma medicine turned out to be so successful. Bravo Merck! If you are a true ISTcel, you should consider taking this, even if you are not baldie.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm unvaxxed for COVID, I've rejected statins during a permabulking low point of my life, but I'm on fin. I'll let the balding rednecks blather on with their lack of case-by-case discernment while I keep my hair. Simple as.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's cool. you should post hair.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are natty 5ar inhibitors you know. Astaxanthin is one and it's a top flight supp for other reasons already

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      natty means less suppression and doesn't mean it couldn't have any side effects. if you want less suppression, just split that tablet. fin is cheap and consuming tablet is much effortless than coping with natty preparations

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > natty
      that means it doesn't work moron.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know
        there's a plant for EVERY drug out there

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Astaxanthin is one and it's a top flight supp for other reasons already

      > natty
      that means it doesn't work moron.

      >that means it doesn't work moron.
      it works a bit, but you need to reach a certain DHT supression treshold in the scalp to have any effect on stopping hairloss and no natural 5ar inhibitor is able to get close, even 40% supression with fin is sometimes not enough. astaxanthin is great for the skin and worth taking anyway, though, I noticed a real difference with it, lycopene and some other supps, like hyaluronic acid and nac, even before I started using tretinoin

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Astaxanthin is one and it's a top flight supp for other reasons already
      [...]
      >that means it doesn't work moron.
      it works a bit, but you need to reach a certain DHT supression treshold in the scalp to have any effect on stopping hairloss and no natural 5ar inhibitor is able to get close, even 40% supression with fin is sometimes not enough. astaxanthin is great for the skin and worth taking anyway, though, I noticed a real difference with it, lycopene and some other supps, like hyaluronic acid and nac, even before I started using tretinoin

      Astaxanthin is a strong enough 5ar inhibitor to visibly slow and thin my body hair growth. I also get watery semen and cognitive side effects on 24mg+.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How are you discerning between natty and non-natty 5ar inhibitors? Why does such a distinction even matter?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pyrilutamide or RU58841 or eat half a raw onion a day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you get RU from?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your momma

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >RU58841
      how good is this shit, any side effects?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Experimental. You can get it on Anageninc or by going hardcore on echemi and sending inquiries to labs directly since Anageninc is expensive for it.

        Many dudes have shown excellent results. Basically it blocks binding to the scalp androgen receptors so neither DHT nor T can bind and damage them (T doing damage is still not confirmed in any study but is bro science theory). It's the functional equivalent of reducing scalp DHT to 0%.

        Systemic absorption so far seem minor in monkey tests. Most guys online don't say they've had any bad sides, but some guys say it nearly gave them a heart attack.

        If you don't get results on fin or dut, it's a last line of defense for prevention. After that your options are a no guard shave or a hairpiece.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does RU58841 have vasodilation properties? Minox is a vasodilator, maybe the heart issues come down to palpitations caused by increased dilation?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Supposedly the heart effects are because androgens play a role in the heart's ongoing health so any RU going systemic to a large degree harms the heart by blocking its ability to receive androgens to an extent.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm one who's heart gave pains when I was on it. I'd recommend fluridil to those who experienced this instead. Far safer due to it being anti systemic absorption by design.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do the cardiac sides come from a study, or just the usual hypochondriac redditors? I think I remember reading about some people supposedly contacting FDA about it and they told them it's bullshit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cardiac sides from RU are not common, but have been reported on every hairloss forum

            iirc the patent for RU expired during its development phase, so there isn't adequate human data on it

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It kills my dick if I take too much of it (1mg/day as "recommended") but I've found it halts my hair loss even if I take much less than it says on the box. I take one half pill (.5mg) every 2 weeks and it's perfect for halting hair loss without killing my dick. Much cheaper too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so you take 0.5mg per 2 weeks not daily and it helps you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Although to be fair my hair loss was not that terrible to begin with (started going from NW1 to NW2 at 33, which is fine but I wanted to not go beyond that)

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /fin/ should become own general on IST

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm on 2mg since june 2022

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lower your dose

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have they done studies on anything higher than 5mg? The threshold doesn't necessarily mean 5mg is the limit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it stops at ~70%, for ~90% reduction you go for Dutasteride

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >take fin
    >get alzheimer's

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32087283/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Alzheimer’s is more common in men than women, though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't completely stop DHT tho. Besides, as you age your natty test tanks which means much less DHT and more vulnerable to Alzheimer's. So the answer is cruise test and fin as you age. Ok next patient.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >as you age your natty test tanks
        skill issue

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >log adjusted
          ah yes, we are on IST, where you moronic homosexuals cannot fricking read graph and you failed middle school math

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Testosterone doesn't decrease with age tho. There are other factors than age that result in lower test and those factors often correlate with age, but for a healthy person testosterone levels remain contant through their lives.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dut master race

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man did your scalp feel like it was burning? My hair became like hay too so I freaked out and stopped after two weeks. It was a very uncomfortable experience.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dut increases scalp testosterone by 99%. Despite what the Haircafe autist says, some men can also be susceptible to hair damage from testosterone too and railing dut to jump your T level will still harm your hair. The hairline specifically may be more T vulnerable but there's no specific studies on it yet, just a messy array of internet study from guys showing hairloss continuing or even accelerating at the hairline while on dut.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, I thought my temples receeding was me panicking about the scalp burning but maybe it was the Dut. Do you think 2.5 weeks would be enough to destroy my hairline?

          Honestly it was kind of dramatic. My hair felt like it was just not producing oil, and the day I stopped my hair started feeling normal again.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the day I stopped my hair started feeling normal again
            Then it was nocebo. Dut doesn't stop working that quick. You need a few days for its levels in your system to drop, and around 3 months to completely get it out of your body.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hasn't really done anything for my hairline but my hair is definitely more luscious. Eyebrows and eyelashes are noticeably thicker too, which helps looking young. No sides, happy with my decision to jump onto FIN.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Eyebrows and eyelashes are noticeably thicker
      Nice placebo effect. Outside of high amounts in the scalp, DHT everywhere else makes hair grow thicker and longer. If you indeed have better hair there, it's very doubtful it's due to that drug.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, that is probably it. minoxidil probably works because it mimics the effect of ATP that opens up channels which deliver nutrients to the hair follicle; increased blood flow in other words.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hmm do you think it's possible that my hair being better is the minoxidil too? Maybe I should drop the fin and see? Or is that risky?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >do you think it's possible that my hair being better is the minoxidil too?
              It's undeniable minoxidil *can* improve scalp hair.
              >Maybe I should drop the fin and see?
              It's also undeniable finasteride *can* improve male-pattern baldness.
              >Or is that risky?
              Probably both are having a positive effect on your hair and though I wouldn't recommend using any of them, you should probably keep using both since they improve hair via different processes. Finasteride is probably the most important since the balding process always stops once you reduce scalp DHT enough.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fin murdered my sex drive and gave me watery semen. sometimes I shoot pure water almost like when you jerk off as a kid and don't produce semen yet. so people saying that it doesn't have real side effects are straight up liars

    for me it's worth it to keep my hair so far

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fin murdered my sex drive
      nocebo
      >watery semen
      probably because prostate started to get smaller. it will adapt, and semen will become better after few months

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get on dutasteride then

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trash enzyme
    >trash hormone DHT
    Why is everyone Kevinposting all of a sudden

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He most likely posts here. Like any narcissist he hates the idea of people disagreeing with him and being allowed to do so unhindered.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a father figure for zoomers

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cool. post hair

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a trash hormone, if you don't have dht, youre gonna get infertile

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It also gets rid of those pesky erections. No more morning glories getting in the way of combing those glorious locks amirite finbros??

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is cold weather good or bad for hair?
    i live in russia, so i've heard it freezes the follicles or something and makes them fall out, but i don't really wanna wear hats

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if it was an issue then russian women would be balding too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they kind of fricking are, i'm gonna be honest
        all of them have gigantic foreheads for some reason

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >israelite chems
    shave it, grow a beard and get fit
    looks clean, feels good

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post head (with eyes blacked out if you wish)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shave it, grow a beard and get fit
      this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he wouldn't look much better with hair though

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick off kevin

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    enjoy your troonyfication.
    when can i eat your ass anon?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you isolate temporary rises in T levels and ignore all offsetting factors, you get to live another day repressing and denying your all-consuming desire to go under the scalpel and be given a manpussy
      spread that flag, dude. spread it proudly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Testosterone increases by 10-20%
      >Estradiol increases by 5-10%
      Damn good deal, I'd take that deal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can't even spell alpha
      opinion disregarded

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > and few other
    *A* few other. "Few other" means "not many other". It's not that hard Rajesh

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based. it's too late for me with diffuse Norwood 4, but I started taking it anyway for the test boost and longetivity. no one ever talks about this this, but it stopped my excessive sebum production and unexpectedly cured my severe sebhorric dermatitis I had since early teens

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what can you even do to reduce scalp inflammation without fricking with 5ar and DHT? Anti inflammatory shit's everywhere and microneedling should be able to sort out regrowth.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guerilla marketing on IST is a 100% sign you stocks are down because your product is unhealthy trash and is doing terribly on the market. You will never change my mind, I know you know it, and I am only here to laugh at you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would companies spend money to guerrilla market an expired-patent generic drug? I don’t take fin but it’s pretty cheap, right? I can’t imagine it’s marked up much over production if any factory in India can pump them out.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rate my stack:
    >Fin 1mg 6 days per week.
    >Dut 0.5mg 1 day per week.
    >Min oral 2.5mg per day.
    >Min/Fin topical 1 or 2 a day.
    >RU once a day.
    >derma rolling 1 or 2 times per week.
    I'm determined to get back to a Norwood 0, so throwing everything and the kitchen sink at it.
    Also how does one apply RU? I usually just put it where I want regrowth, but should I be putting it all over scalp?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dut 0.5mg 1 day per week.
      So this is actually basically doing nothing for you. Dut is different than fin in that it takes time to have to build up to make efficacy. It's like creatine where you sort of have a loading phase. It's months before dut winds up reaching its top efficacy in suppressing DHT. Taking it once a week likely isn't making it effective any further than just having 7 days of fin.

      How long have you been on these things and how much regrowth have you seen? Generally even with a full stack no one ever recovers full balded areas of hairline.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was gonna do that in order to build it up slowly over time. I took it for 2 weeks but it made my scalp feel like it was burning and unbearably itchy.

        I've been on Fin 5 months and Min 3, hair looks better for sure but no significant regrowth.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          KWXK on Youtube has a vid on this. Basically you're best off continuing on with fin and dut at the same time to let dut build up to efficacy without having DHT rise by jumping off fin switching direct from one to the other. Theory is that the shed some guys get switching from fin to dut is likely caused by stopping fin, scalp DHT rises without it during the time dut is taking to get up to max capacity.

          Probably a good loading protocal is dut one day, fin the next for a few months. Keeps fin in the system and DHT suppressed while getting regular dut in to build up with its long half life, then eventually start subbing out those fin days with more dut days. There's no real science studied to this process just looking at graphs of DHT suppression for each and going from there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the point of taking fin and dut at the same time? isn't dut powerful version of fin that tanks dht up to 90%

    • 2 weeks ago
      pudding

      My only problem with your stack is that you have no idea what works and dropping even a single drug might lead to massive shedding.

      I'm all for waiting 6 months on fin and then going crazy with oral min to fill in all the hair that isn't coming back with min, you don't have to scar up your scalp or take research anti-androgens.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't really fault it. I take 1.25mg Fin & 2.5mg Minox once a day myself.

      These treatments are cheap enough that it doesn't hurt to use both the topical & oral. I am concerned about oral minoxidil after Haircafe's videos though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I am concerned about oral minoxidil after Haircafe's videos though
        I'm not. yeah, the adverse effect rate is pretty high and not dose-dependent, but the bright side is that if you don't notice any fluid retention, heart palpitation etc. after using it for some time, it's unlikely that you're in the unlucky portion of the population susceptible to it and even prolonged use or higher doses, like 5mg, will frick you up

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Haircafe does more damage than good scaremongering oral min, his viewership is scared enough "taking the plunge" with 1mg fin every other day thinking it's gonna castrate them because of all the memes and FUD on this site, r/tressless and others.
          It's really something else, who benefits from such an extreme smear campaign on fin other than grifters selling essential oils and red light helmets?

          I still like his videos and he it totally right on the fin scaremongering. But it's so convenient to take oral Minox, vs applying it manually every day. That's a real chore.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree. he's one of a handful of youtubers who actually read the studies and their methodology, not just titles, as far as hairloss is concerned

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oral min is a big no, why would someone like his hair thicken all over the body, I'm already pretty hairy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you're hairy now, you will be hairy with oral min, if you have effeminate raits like the inability to grow more than peach fuzz on your body, it will not suddenly darken on oral min.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you're hairy now, you will be hairy with oral min, if you have effeminate raits like the inability to grow more than peach fuzz on your body, it will not suddenly darken on oral min.

              I have a hairy chest (thick and complete coverage up to the clavicle), so I have bodyhair genetics, but the hair on my hands and legs is short and barely visible and oral fin didn't make them any thicker, just the eyebrows

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Haircafe does more damage than good scaremongering oral min, his viewership is scared enough "taking the plunge" with 1mg fin every other day thinking it's gonna castrate them because of all the memes and FUD on this site, r/tressless and others.
        It's really something else, who benefits from such an extreme smear campaign on fin other than grifters selling essential oils and red light helmets?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hi kevin. Now plz frick off and rope urself

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    y'all cowards don't even drink topical min

    5.66mg from 4 drops of 5% topical liquid, it's only been a month and I can already see my diffuse hairline coming back with cm of growth plus more sprouting up after fin nuked my hairline and none of my dht rekt hair showed any signs of regrowth 3 months after the initial fin shed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not drinking fin and using it topically at the same time
      ishygddt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use 5mg and so far I've only noticed beard growth. Which is nice.
      If hair growth happened, it's not noticeable yet.
      Side effect for me is that my eyebrows got thicker and I look zesty as frick.

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