Jaw surgery is allowing lots of people like me with shitty DNA to look decent and reproduce. And surgeons are getting better and better at it because it's way more common now.
Fear not. I'm still the biggest incel to ever incel despite getting double jaw surgery. No woman will ever agree to go on a date with me, let alone sleep with me and have kids with me.
>Just bad posture, mouth breathing and lack of chewing hard food till the end of puberty
The fact you don't realize that these things are also genetic is a problem.
No they aren't they're a fricking parenting problem. All of these are behavior based. Further more good dna wont save you from the effects of that shit if nobody intervenes.
For most people it does. For me it was only a so-so improvement. Once the blood clots finally cleared from my nasal cavities, which almost killed me by the way, after 2-3 weeks, I could finally breathe perfectly through my nostrils for the first time in my entire life. It was amazing. I couldn't believe that most people breathe like that all the time. I was thrilled and thought it would be like that for the rest of my life. But then after a few weeks my ability to breathe through my nose decreased by about 50%, and I still don't know why. It's still better than it used to be, and I'm not a mouth-breather anymore, but I wish I could regain totally unrestricted nasal breathing like I enjoyed for about a month.
>3cm x 2cm
Wait how do they surgically up the girth? I know part of your dick is tucked against pelvic bone internally and can be surgery-magick'ed enough to wring out that bit of length with.
Also 3cm x 2cm would put me in the 21(cm) Club, based but probably not worth whatever miserable complication.
as soon as something like this is actually fully possible, fake big dicks will be like fake big breasts. all the insecure and genuinely genetically cursed people will get them, and everyone else will continue not giving a frick
The only legit-ish penis enhancements procedures that I would even consider are Penuma, specifically by Dr. Kambiz Tajkarimi in NOVA, and Bellafill injections, specifically by Dr. Jason Rupeka in Ohio. I don't want to post before and after pics of dude's dicks because there could be children under 18 on here, but you can Google a gay dude on Reddit named /u/naked-spiritual to see the best case scenario for Penuma, and a guy called /u/biztruckerguy on Reddit for the best example that I've seen of Bellafill improving a dude's dick. But keep in mind that both of these procedures only increase girth, not length. And there's also lots of horror stories out there for both procedures, and so do them at your own risk. If you want to increase length, then you can actually do that via penis stretching. I personally use the Penimaster Pro from Germany. But this medical doctor on /r/GettingBigger got great results by simply stretching his dick with own own hands for 30 minutes twice a day for about 2 years. His name on Reddit is /u/Hinkle_McKringlebry. His routine is honestly what I'd recommend because it's safer. You can also increase your girth and erection quality by using a penis pump for a 5-10 minutes every day and by taking 1,500mg of Citrulline twice a day. And of course 5mg of Cialis every day will help with girth and erection quality as well. But again, be careful when it comes to penis enhancement. /r/PE_Injuries is full of people who destroyed their dicks. And so do it at your own risk.
story time: >be me >porn addicted degenerate >massively insecure about the size of my schlong since middle school >never actually measured it but it looks weird and cut and small >one day having wank with my phone nearby >huh wait a minute >it's longer than the phone >google the model's dimensions >mfw it's 6.7 inches >get a tape measurer >what in the frick's name is that what 7 inches look like >maybe I'm a girthlet >5 inches in girth
the frick is this shit I can't get off from 3 hour goon session humiliation ASMR now.
guaranteed infection
i will give you another 50 years and they will still have not found a safe cure to dicklets
because there's none, penis enlargement by nature of how penis works is literally impossible
1000% against most cosmetic surgery but if you’re unfortunate enough to have a comically almost non existent chin as a man like OP pic then yeah get that shit fixed if you have the means
Disagree.
He was not genetically supposed to have a bad jaw, its down to his food type and nutrition growing up.
In an ideal setting he would have looked like this all along.
See westerners who spent decades in Japan, eating their soft mush food until they begin to look Japanese, and vice versa.
So I don't grudge anyone getting jaw surgery because they had a shit diet or environment in their youth.
Thoughts are if you don't realize this is fake you are an idiot. This is not possible, look at before and after of reputable US clinics for a proper idea.
U.S. clinics aren't "scams". But I agree that the overall quality seems to be higher in Europe, with the exception of Dr. Alfaro in Spain. Lots of horror stories on /r/JawSurgery of him chimpmaxxing people's faces by extending the jaws out too far.
If you have either public healthcare or if you're a mutt with enough money I do not see any downside to this surgery.
Other than your wife being lied to if you breed and all the children turn out chinless Leafy without warning her you're a fraud.
The biggest downside is the extremely brutal recovery and the possibility of getting botched. I got double jaw surgery a few months ago and it was an absolutely awful experience.
I'm curious about how this procedure actually works.
Do they just cut you up and put some filler material in to give the impression of a bigger jaw? Or do they break it and allow new bone to grow but in a different position, similar to how leg lengthening surgery works? >inb4 google it
I did. Haven't found shit.
Also, does chewing hard stuff make it hurt? How does your jaw feel in cold weather?
My surgery was different. I had an underbite, and so I had the exact opposite of a recessed chin. My chin jutted forward like a bulldog. And my upper jaw was underdeveloped. It was super narrow and recessed deeply into my face. And so it was so sort of like having a small child's upper jaw within a fully grown man's skull.
But the methods for correcting underbites, overbites, recessed chins, slanted jaws (which I also had), and open bites are pretty similar.
For me, they used a small, rotating, Dremel-like saw to completely remove my upper jaw from my skull. They then cut my detached upper jaw in half, put it in a custom made plastic splint in order to widen it, and then reattached all of that to my skull several millimeters forward using custom made titanium plates and screws.
For my lower jaw, they used the same small, rotating saw to make 4 cuts and break my jaw into 3 separate pieces. They then removed a few millimeters of bone in order to move it backwards using more custom made titanium plates and screws.
They also rotated both of my jaws to the left about 1.5 millimeters so that they lined up with the center of my face.
They then used a bunch of strong rubber bands to keep my jaws sawed shut for about 6 weeks.
Here's actual video footage of the surgeries that were performed on me. Just be warned that they've very graphic and hard to watch.
(fun fact: that's a cadaver - hence the lack of blood)
I didn't have bone grafts, implants, or fillers applied to me, but some people do, especially at the more expensive Gucci clinics that try to improve the overall appearance of your face. Most oral surgeons like mine don't do that. They only care about function and just try to make your jaws and nasal cavities line up properly.
You can't chew at all for about 2 months. You have to be on all-liquid diet and feed yourself through a large syringe with a rubber hose. The only place where the liquids can get past your teeth is at that back of your molars where your wisdom teeth used to be (you also have to get your wisdom teeth removed and wear braces). You have to swallow all of your liquid food without chewing like a snake. It's horrible.
And even after you get your splint taken out at 6-ish weeks, your teeth, gums, and jaw bones will be extremely sensitive for 3-ish months. And so you won't be able to eat hard foods again for quite a while.
When I still had my splint in my mouth and was on all-liquid diet, all I could think about was going to a nice restaurant right after my splint was removed and biting into a juicy burger. My oral surgeon basically lied to me and tole me I'd be able to do that without issue (oral surgeons lie about how brutal the recovery is so that you don't back out). But when that moment finally came and I couldn't even open my mouth, much less chew, I legit started crying in the middle of the restaurant. It was embarrassing.
And so you have to do mouth stretches every single day for months to slowly open up your bite again because your muscles and tendons want to keep your jaws shut. And then you have to very slowly eat progressively harder foods until your jaws stop being sensitive. I'm still not back to normal about half a year later.
I haven't really noticed temperature affecting my jaws. But my chin area and lower lip is permanently numb and tingling. It kind of feels similar to when your feet or hands are asleep, but more intense. It happens to about 10-30% of people that get lower jaw surgery according to the medical literature (it's super uncommon for upper jaw surgery). And it can take a year for the nerves in your jaws to fully heal. And so I still don't know if it will be like this for the rest of my life or not, but it feels like it will be.
You can't chew at all for about 2 months. You have to be on all-liquid diet and feed yourself through a large syringe with a rubber hose. The only place where the liquids can get past your teeth is at that back of your molars where your wisdom teeth used to be (you also have to get your wisdom teeth removed and wear braces). You have to swallow all of your liquid food without chewing like a snake. It's horrible.
And even after you get your splint taken out at 6-ish weeks, your teeth, gums, and jaw bones will be extremely sensitive for 3-ish months. And so you won't be able to eat hard foods again for quite a while.
When I still had my splint in my mouth and was on all-liquid diet, all I could think about was going to a nice restaurant right after my splint was removed and biting into a juicy burger. My oral surgeon basically lied to me and tole me I'd be able to do that without issue (oral surgeons lie about how brutal the recovery is so that you don't back out). But when that moment finally came and I couldn't even open my mouth, much less chew, I legit started crying in the middle of the restaurant. It was embarrassing.
And so you have to do mouth stretches every single day for months to slowly open up your bite again because your muscles and tendons want to keep your jaws shut. And then you have to very slowly eat progressively harder foods until your jaws stop being sensitive. I'm still not back to normal about half a year later.
I haven't really noticed temperature affecting my jaws. But my chin area and lower lip is permanently numb and tingling. It kind of feels similar to when your feet or hands are asleep, but more intense. It happens to about 10-30% of people that get lower jaw surgery according to the medical literature (it's super uncommon for upper jaw surgery). And it can take a year for the nerves in your jaws to fully heal. And so I still don't know if it will be like this for the rest of my life or not, but it feels like it will be.
Fricking hell
Thanks for the explanations.
I asked about cold weather because I've had fractures in my arms, and if I would spend too much time in very cold weather (-18 degrees celsius or below), the spots where the fractures were would begin to feel weird and hurt.
I got my surgery at the end of winter, and I spent all day in my house just trying to survive during my recovery. And so I was only briefly outside on cold days. But now I have something interesting to look forward to as I wait to see how cold weather affects my jaws next winter. It would suck if it gave me pain because I love cold weather.
But yeah, don't underestimate this surgery. I've seen tons of posts on /r/JawSurgery where people are talking about how they thought that they were prepared for the recovery, only to freak out once they actually have to deal with their new reality. They knew that it was going to be brutal because most people say that it is. But then when you're actually going through it you realize that you can't really prepare for it. However bad you imagine it's going to be, the reality is 10x worse. That was definitely my experience.
But another thing people will usually tell you is that they don't regret getting the surgery and recommend that other people get it done if they feel like they need it. They'll tell people to just endure months of hell for a lifetime of more confidence. And I second that. But again, you definitely won't agree as you're actually going through the recovery. You're going to regret getting the surgery for months. It's only after you're mostly back to normal that you'll be glad that you got it done. But that's also assuming that you don't get botched, because there's definitely horror stories of that happening as well.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>But now I have something interesting to look forward to as I wait to see how cold weather affects my jaws next winter. It would suck if it gave me pain because I love cold weather.
Ok but be careful, cause it can get really bad. Idk if you have had any fractures before and experienced this, but if you go overboard in really cold weather and don't protect the area, not only will it hurt in the cold, but it will hurt incredibly bad when you warm yourself up. I did that shit once, and for about a quarter of an hour my bones felt like they were burning (like genuine, 10/10 pain, ''someone is skewering the marrow in my bones with a red hot nail'' kind of burning).
Then I figured out that cold water helps (slows down the warming, so it doesn't hurt as bad).
If you're in that situation, just turn cold water on, as cold as it can get, and stick your face underneath, then gradually warm it up over the course of a few minutes.
Idk if this information will ever be useful to you, hopefully not, but maybe it will be. >But yeah, don't underestimate this surgery
Oh don't worry, I don't. Shit looks frickin scary.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for the tip. Storing it in my memory bank. Hopefully I won't need it, but I have a feeling that I will.
And yes, I've experienced a couple fractures. I fractured my ankle when I used to play high school basketball. And I also fractured my forearm because someone was trying to kill me with a baseball bat (long story). But I never noticed them giving me issues in the cold.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're welcome.
To be fair, it really depends on how cold is the coldness you're experiencing, and for how long.
At least in my case, it was below 20 degrees celsius, and I spent enough time in the cold that I could barely move my arms below the elbow (was in the mountains in the winter and couldn't start a fire because lighter stopped working, matches barely worked, and nothing would burn because it was wet and frozen). I legit went overboard.
But Idk how this would apply to jaw bones. Might not be as bad, since the face will always be warmer than the extremities, but might be worse since the tissue is more delicate and more readily exposed. Either way, be careful.
>Just be warned that they've very graphic and hard to watch.
You did not lie. I thought it would be ok cause I've seen rekt videos and surgery videos before, but nope. It's a very distinct flavor of fricking horrendous.
The cadaver one was more bearable, but the first one >cuts through chick's skull like butter >detaches the upper jaw, grabs it and fricking twists it >uses pair of pliers to pull out fragments of bone from the pool of blood behind where the nose was supposed to be >mfw
https://i.imgur.com/NzeRplA.jpg
Can this shit fix me? I want to cut my fricking neck off
I know your pain. My advice is to grow a beard. Even if the beard isn't that great, at least there's a beard in the way.
I made the mistake of watching those videos before my surgery because I wanted to know exactly what I'd be going through. It was like watching the most fricked up horror movies ever made because not only are they actually real, but I knew that the same exact thing would be happening to my face. I almost backed out because they were so gruesome. And so ignorance is probably bliss if you're thinking about getting jaw surgery.
Because A, they don't and B their parents stopped them from developing shitty habits and took their kid to sports training instead of let him sit there playing videogames and fapping to internet pornography.
Kind of confusing. Your front and 45 degree profile look great. But your side profile looks super recessed. It doesn't even look like the same person. But yes, jaw surgery can fix recessed chins.
this isnt as bad as it looks
you ever stop to think why some people dont look like this? >mewing
true but it is not an end on itself, if you just try to pull it out, it's going to be pretty hard, because it is a byproduct of actually moving your body as a unit.
This shitty turkey necks come from the fact of trying to keep the head still (this might have as a reason poor balance, anxiety, idk).
Your head is supposed to move a little when you walk. It's no really noticeable, but if you were to exagerate the movement to make it visible it's look like a little nod with a tilt to the stepping leg.
Do THAT, and you'll see your neck musculature and side profile actually improves.
ALSO, RECORD yourself, and you'll notice it's not really noticeable (at least if you can do it relaxedly enough)
THINK moronic homosexuals THINK
mewing is a meme because it doesnt show the whole picture
It's always in trying to isolate the body parts, it is supposed to work as a unit from head to toe they have to move with the same intention
Yeah why not. It's life changing. I have a few things I would correct but I'm at an age and a point in life where it doesn't really matter anymore.
>thought ?
>Yeah why not.
It's vain.
it's a literal medical issue
I think he could have gone further
Idk he seems pretty maxed out for his base,he is starting to banana max at this point look at that jaw curve lol.
Sure but you could add implants on top of that or fillers to make it a bit more square
Jaw surgery is allowing lots of people like me with shitty DNA to look decent and reproduce. And surgeons are getting better and better at it because it's way more common now.
and now your shitty dna will persist
Fear not. I'm still the biggest incel to ever incel despite getting double jaw surgery. No woman will ever agree to go on a date with me, let alone sleep with me and have kids with me.
there are worse genes; like the ones responsible for left wing personalities
This is not genetic related.
Just bad posture, mouth breathing and lack of chewing hard food till the end of puberty.
Did you know that doctors who highlight this fact get canceled and lose their licenses?
Everything what /misc/ said regarding israelites is true
>Just bad posture, mouth breathing and lack of chewing hard food till the end of puberty
The fact you don't realize that these things are also genetic is a problem.
No they aren't they're a fricking parenting problem. All of these are behavior based. Further more good dna wont save you from the effects of that shit if nobody intervenes.
Right if they just make sure to correct these things in their children early they'll still probably look much better even without surgery.
It also fixes his breathing.
For most people it does. For me it was only a so-so improvement. Once the blood clots finally cleared from my nasal cavities, which almost killed me by the way, after 2-3 weeks, I could finally breathe perfectly through my nostrils for the first time in my entire life. It was amazing. I couldn't believe that most people breathe like that all the time. I was thrilled and thought it would be like that for the rest of my life. But then after a few weeks my ability to breathe through my nose decreased by about 50%, and I still don't know why. It's still better than it used to be, and I'm not a mouth-breather anymore, but I wish I could regain totally unrestricted nasal breathing like I enjoyed for about a month.
>turkaesthetic
Where is his exoskeleton?
The Turks performe the surgery
sounds unsanitary
Best post on this website right now.
Go back to r*ddit
looks like a succesful surgery
bros... look what else they do
>can't have sex for a month afterwards
The frick? How do people manage this?
easy, haven't had sex in ten years for now
>3cm x 2cm
Wait how do they surgically up the girth? I know part of your dick is tucked against pelvic bone internally and can be surgery-magick'ed enough to wring out that bit of length with.
Also 3cm x 2cm would put me in the 21(cm) Club, based but probably not worth whatever miserable complication.
as soon as something like this is actually fully possible, fake big dicks will be like fake big breasts. all the insecure and genuinely genetically cursed people will get them, and everyone else will continue not giving a frick
The only legit-ish penis enhancements procedures that I would even consider are Penuma, specifically by Dr. Kambiz Tajkarimi in NOVA, and Bellafill injections, specifically by Dr. Jason Rupeka in Ohio. I don't want to post before and after pics of dude's dicks because there could be children under 18 on here, but you can Google a gay dude on Reddit named /u/naked-spiritual to see the best case scenario for Penuma, and a guy called /u/biztruckerguy on Reddit for the best example that I've seen of Bellafill improving a dude's dick. But keep in mind that both of these procedures only increase girth, not length. And there's also lots of horror stories out there for both procedures, and so do them at your own risk. If you want to increase length, then you can actually do that via penis stretching. I personally use the Penimaster Pro from Germany. But this medical doctor on /r/GettingBigger got great results by simply stretching his dick with own own hands for 30 minutes twice a day for about 2 years. His name on Reddit is /u/Hinkle_McKringlebry. His routine is honestly what I'd recommend because it's safer. You can also increase your girth and erection quality by using a penis pump for a 5-10 minutes every day and by taking 1,500mg of Citrulline twice a day. And of course 5mg of Cialis every day will help with girth and erection quality as well. But again, be careful when it comes to penis enhancement. /r/PE_Injuries is full of people who destroyed their dicks. And so do it at your own risk.
can they do the opposite
story time:
>be me
>porn addicted degenerate
>massively insecure about the size of my schlong since middle school
>never actually measured it but it looks weird and cut and small
>one day having wank with my phone nearby
>huh wait a minute
>it's longer than the phone
>google the model's dimensions
>mfw it's 6.7 inches
>get a tape measurer
>what in the frick's name is that what 7 inches look like
>maybe I'm a girthlet
>5 inches in girth
the frick is this shit I can't get off from 3 hour goon session humiliation ASMR now.
this is me unironically and I know you're not lying.
I knew mine because i got bored and measured my dick across my iphone pro max. yep
guaranteed infection
i will give you another 50 years and they will still have not found a safe cure to dicklets
because there's none, penis enlargement by nature of how penis works is literally impossible
1000% against most cosmetic surgery but if you’re unfortunate enough to have a comically almost non existent chin as a man like OP pic then yeah get that shit fixed if you have the means
Such surgery should only be authorized if he accepts to also get a vasectomy.
Disagree.
He was not genetically supposed to have a bad jaw, its down to his food type and nutrition growing up.
In an ideal setting he would have looked like this all along.
See westerners who spent decades in Japan, eating their soft mush food until they begin to look Japanese, and vice versa.
So I don't grudge anyone getting jaw surgery because they had a shit diet or environment in their youth.
> m*dslim cope surgery
>the west has fallen
>the west has not fallen
Thoughts are if you don't realize this is fake you are an idiot. This is not possible, look at before and after of reputable US clinics for a proper idea.
US clinics are scam.
European countries are way ahead regarding jaw surgery.
Not to mention the huge cosmetic surgery industry in Turkey
U.S. clinics aren't "scams". But I agree that the overall quality seems to be higher in Europe, with the exception of Dr. Alfaro in Spain. Lots of horror stories on /r/JawSurgery of him chimpmaxxing people's faces by extending the jaws out too far.
Us surgeons are by far the best in the world.
Coping poorgays going to turkey and getting botches surgeries from "doctors" with toilet paper degrees
"hello sirs please chat in skype. Bring 3000 monies in physical cash only and ty"
They are literally just back alley surgeons.
How the frick does that happen to people? The before pic, I mean
Any number of ways. Mouth breathing, bad orthodontics, birth defect, etc.
Too soft foods and lack of exercise during critical growth phase during childhood.
Which in itself do beg the question: what is hard food?
His wife will be disappointed and abandon him when she finds out their children are chinlets with inferior genetics
They can just get jaw surgery too. GG.
each cosmetic surgery of this order should be accompanied by an obligation of sterilization
Otherwise yeah why not
If you have either public healthcare or if you're a mutt with enough money I do not see any downside to this surgery.
Other than your wife being lied to if you breed and all the children turn out chinless Leafy without warning her you're a fraud.
The biggest downside is the extremely brutal recovery and the possibility of getting botched. I got double jaw surgery a few months ago and it was an absolutely awful experience.
I'm curious about how this procedure actually works.
Do they just cut you up and put some filler material in to give the impression of a bigger jaw? Or do they break it and allow new bone to grow but in a different position, similar to how leg lengthening surgery works?
>inb4 google it
I did. Haven't found shit.
Also, does chewing hard stuff make it hurt? How does your jaw feel in cold weather?
My surgery was different. I had an underbite, and so I had the exact opposite of a recessed chin. My chin jutted forward like a bulldog. And my upper jaw was underdeveloped. It was super narrow and recessed deeply into my face. And so it was so sort of like having a small child's upper jaw within a fully grown man's skull.
But the methods for correcting underbites, overbites, recessed chins, slanted jaws (which I also had), and open bites are pretty similar.
For me, they used a small, rotating, Dremel-like saw to completely remove my upper jaw from my skull. They then cut my detached upper jaw in half, put it in a custom made plastic splint in order to widen it, and then reattached all of that to my skull several millimeters forward using custom made titanium plates and screws.
For my lower jaw, they used the same small, rotating saw to make 4 cuts and break my jaw into 3 separate pieces. They then removed a few millimeters of bone in order to move it backwards using more custom made titanium plates and screws.
They also rotated both of my jaws to the left about 1.5 millimeters so that they lined up with the center of my face.
They then used a bunch of strong rubber bands to keep my jaws sawed shut for about 6 weeks.
Here's actual video footage of the surgeries that were performed on me. Just be warned that they've very graphic and hard to watch.
(fun fact: that's a cadaver - hence the lack of blood)
I didn't have bone grafts, implants, or fillers applied to me, but some people do, especially at the more expensive Gucci clinics that try to improve the overall appearance of your face. Most oral surgeons like mine don't do that. They only care about function and just try to make your jaws and nasal cavities line up properly.
(cont.)
You can't chew at all for about 2 months. You have to be on all-liquid diet and feed yourself through a large syringe with a rubber hose. The only place where the liquids can get past your teeth is at that back of your molars where your wisdom teeth used to be (you also have to get your wisdom teeth removed and wear braces). You have to swallow all of your liquid food without chewing like a snake. It's horrible.
And even after you get your splint taken out at 6-ish weeks, your teeth, gums, and jaw bones will be extremely sensitive for 3-ish months. And so you won't be able to eat hard foods again for quite a while.
When I still had my splint in my mouth and was on all-liquid diet, all I could think about was going to a nice restaurant right after my splint was removed and biting into a juicy burger. My oral surgeon basically lied to me and tole me I'd be able to do that without issue (oral surgeons lie about how brutal the recovery is so that you don't back out). But when that moment finally came and I couldn't even open my mouth, much less chew, I legit started crying in the middle of the restaurant. It was embarrassing.
And so you have to do mouth stretches every single day for months to slowly open up your bite again because your muscles and tendons want to keep your jaws shut. And then you have to very slowly eat progressively harder foods until your jaws stop being sensitive. I'm still not back to normal about half a year later.
I haven't really noticed temperature affecting my jaws. But my chin area and lower lip is permanently numb and tingling. It kind of feels similar to when your feet or hands are asleep, but more intense. It happens to about 10-30% of people that get lower jaw surgery according to the medical literature (it's super uncommon for upper jaw surgery). And it can take a year for the nerves in your jaws to fully heal. And so I still don't know if it will be like this for the rest of my life or not, but it feels like it will be.
Fricking hell
Thanks for the explanations.
I asked about cold weather because I've had fractures in my arms, and if I would spend too much time in very cold weather (-18 degrees celsius or below), the spots where the fractures were would begin to feel weird and hurt.
I got my surgery at the end of winter, and I spent all day in my house just trying to survive during my recovery. And so I was only briefly outside on cold days. But now I have something interesting to look forward to as I wait to see how cold weather affects my jaws next winter. It would suck if it gave me pain because I love cold weather.
But yeah, don't underestimate this surgery. I've seen tons of posts on /r/JawSurgery where people are talking about how they thought that they were prepared for the recovery, only to freak out once they actually have to deal with their new reality. They knew that it was going to be brutal because most people say that it is. But then when you're actually going through it you realize that you can't really prepare for it. However bad you imagine it's going to be, the reality is 10x worse. That was definitely my experience.
Here's a fresh example somebody posted yesterday.
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/15o9rja/i_so_horribly_underestimated_recovery_its/
But another thing people will usually tell you is that they don't regret getting the surgery and recommend that other people get it done if they feel like they need it. They'll tell people to just endure months of hell for a lifetime of more confidence. And I second that. But again, you definitely won't agree as you're actually going through the recovery. You're going to regret getting the surgery for months. It's only after you're mostly back to normal that you'll be glad that you got it done. But that's also assuming that you don't get botched, because there's definitely horror stories of that happening as well.
>But now I have something interesting to look forward to as I wait to see how cold weather affects my jaws next winter. It would suck if it gave me pain because I love cold weather.
Ok but be careful, cause it can get really bad. Idk if you have had any fractures before and experienced this, but if you go overboard in really cold weather and don't protect the area, not only will it hurt in the cold, but it will hurt incredibly bad when you warm yourself up. I did that shit once, and for about a quarter of an hour my bones felt like they were burning (like genuine, 10/10 pain, ''someone is skewering the marrow in my bones with a red hot nail'' kind of burning).
Then I figured out that cold water helps (slows down the warming, so it doesn't hurt as bad).
If you're in that situation, just turn cold water on, as cold as it can get, and stick your face underneath, then gradually warm it up over the course of a few minutes.
Idk if this information will ever be useful to you, hopefully not, but maybe it will be.
>But yeah, don't underestimate this surgery
Oh don't worry, I don't. Shit looks frickin scary.
Thanks for the tip. Storing it in my memory bank. Hopefully I won't need it, but I have a feeling that I will.
And yes, I've experienced a couple fractures. I fractured my ankle when I used to play high school basketball. And I also fractured my forearm because someone was trying to kill me with a baseball bat (long story). But I never noticed them giving me issues in the cold.
You're welcome.
To be fair, it really depends on how cold is the coldness you're experiencing, and for how long.
At least in my case, it was below 20 degrees celsius, and I spent enough time in the cold that I could barely move my arms below the elbow (was in the mountains in the winter and couldn't start a fire because lighter stopped working, matches barely worked, and nothing would burn because it was wet and frozen). I legit went overboard.
But Idk how this would apply to jaw bones. Might not be as bad, since the face will always be warmer than the extremities, but might be worse since the tissue is more delicate and more readily exposed. Either way, be careful.
>Just be warned that they've very graphic and hard to watch.
You did not lie. I thought it would be ok cause I've seen rekt videos and surgery videos before, but nope. It's a very distinct flavor of fricking horrendous.
The cadaver one was more bearable, but the first one
>cuts through chick's skull like butter
>detaches the upper jaw, grabs it and fricking twists it
>uses pair of pliers to pull out fragments of bone from the pool of blood behind where the nose was supposed to be
>mfw
I know your pain. My advice is to grow a beard. Even if the beard isn't that great, at least there's a beard in the way.
I made the mistake of watching those videos before my surgery because I wanted to know exactly what I'd be going through. It was like watching the most fricked up horror movies ever made because not only are they actually real, but I knew that the same exact thing would be happening to my face. I almost backed out because they were so gruesome. And so ignorance is probably bliss if you're thinking about getting jaw surgery.
That's a literal deformity and surgery is justified in such cases
It's never genetic. It's caused by malnutrition while growing up. Weston A. Price proved it beyond any shadow of a doubt almost 100 years ago.
Why is it that people eating the same foods as you don't have the same problems? Really joggins the noggin.
>eating the same foods as you
They probably didn't.
Because A, they don't and B their parents stopped them from developing shitty habits and took their kid to sports training instead of let him sit there playing videogames and fapping to internet pornography.
Sliding geniolasty = good structural change.
Implants = literally braindead procedure that obviously looks fake and has high revision rate.
Can this shit fix me? I want to cut my fricking neck off
Kind of confusing. Your front and 45 degree profile look great. But your side profile looks super recessed. It doesn't even look like the same person. But yes, jaw surgery can fix recessed chins.
Here's some examples.
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/13yiq6h/3_months_post/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/r3ibzf/2_weeks_postop_had_ljs_and_genioplasty/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/14cnbbw/6_months_post_op/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/14idnsa/5_months_post_op_the_wonder_of_double_jaws_surgery/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/15i40fd/ljs_photos_from_preop_to_one_year_fully_healed/
You're telling me, bro. I look great in some pics and others I look like a fat moron.
this isnt as bad as it looks
you ever stop to think why some people dont look like this?
>mewing
true but it is not an end on itself, if you just try to pull it out, it's going to be pretty hard, because it is a byproduct of actually moving your body as a unit.
This shitty turkey necks come from the fact of trying to keep the head still (this might have as a reason poor balance, anxiety, idk).
Your head is supposed to move a little when you walk. It's no really noticeable, but if you were to exagerate the movement to make it visible it's look like a little nod with a tilt to the stepping leg.
Do THAT, and you'll see your neck musculature and side profile actually improves.
ALSO, RECORD yourself, and you'll notice it's not really noticeable (at least if you can do it relaxedly enough)
THINK moronic homosexuals THINK
mewing is a meme because it doesnt show the whole picture
It's always in trying to isolate the body parts, it is supposed to work as a unit from head to toe they have to move with the same intention
>Do THAT, and you'll see your neck musculature and side profile actually improves.
your neck musculature activate and side profile improve*