it's too hard stuff for your average ISTner who also has a porn and weed "addiction".
i use it as a preworkout for running and other long and hard cardio sessions. makes me able to push for way longer. especially good stuff when it's cold outside.
> i use it as a preworkout for running
Kratom is an opiate. Forbidden knowledge: opiates are a PED for endurance. You will push yourself harder and faster on them.
It’s fine if you’re not prone to bad habits (weed, drinking, excessive caffeine). Use it as a tool, like taking pre workout is a strategic use of caffeine, nitrous. I find kratom can help with DOMS, especially Bali strain.
It is a partial agonist opioid, so you can't expect much. The lower doses are usually lightly stimulating, equal to about 100-200mg of caffeine imo.
Heres at least some information: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Kratom
Don't worry on particular strains, just worry about the color: red, white, or green. Red is more sedating, white stimulating, and green a balance between them.
I usually consume it by throwing it in a cup with orange juice and chugging it down. I'm usually consuming 14g per dose for the sedative opioid effects, but from what I've read/seen lower doses around 2-5g are better for stimulation. If you want a source, just do what you do for all clearnet drugs and look around. Sourcing of a legal substance should be fine though so I'll tell you I went with a company called Viable Solutions.
I only dose one a month right now, but a while back I was dosing twice a week which started having diminishing opioid effects (so I had to lower my use).
it's all the same shit. you can buy it from the gas station. it's a drug. same as any other. except it's cheap and comes in huge quantities so you will get addicted easily
Why?:
Severe severe daily pain in my leg after a botched surgery. Was on the verge of having a mental breakdown and quitting my job. Kratom completely vanquished my pain and let me finally sleep through the night.
Side effects?:
Holy FRICK it reeked so much havoc on my digestive system. Every time I took it I felt incredibly sick and nauseous. It felt like there were bricks in my stomach. Constipation every day. By the end of the 3rd month I would feel a wave of nausea just thinking about taking my evening dose. It started to be normal for me to throw up 2-3 times before I could actually keep it down. My body wanted to reject it so much but I needed it to manage my pain.
Other than that, pretty much nothing bad, but that itself was brutal. I was so happy to upgrade to real opiates when the doc finally gave me a prescription.
High?:
I felt a "high" for maybe the first week. Very mild, very chill. Mostly just increased tiredness/relaxation but a bit of euphoria. After the first week it didn't give me any euphoria, but continued to make me more relaxed.
Usefulness as a workout substance?
Can't imagine working out on this shit. I was too crippled that year to be hitting the gym so I don't know for sure but I felt disgustingly sick whenever I was on it, all I wanted to do was lie in bed and sleep.
I used to take it for like 2-3 years. Only quit recently.
It's basically a weak opioid. It increases energy, motivation and calms my anxiety.
Dosage really varies person to person. I don't think I ever took more than 3-4 grams, but I know most people need 5-10 grams to feel it.
Color matters the most, as others have stated. Each color has slightly different feel. I'd add that generally maeng da and malay are the strongest.
I used it because I was in a rough life situation but now it's better so I don't take it anymore. It can helps with workouts, once again it's an opioid it numbs pain and gives some extra motivation.
The problem is once you get used and accustomed to it then it can turn on you. When I started taking it it was only once a week on weekends. Then it become more and more frequent and eventually I was taking it every day multiple times. I only went out after dosing, took it at my job, or just to game, etc.. It really fits into many situations because you are not high/drunk/wasted, you don't smell or look high. You are still yourself, just "better". But you don't take it once and you start to feel the withdrawals: more anxiety, pain and less motivation than ever.
Feel free to try it though, it's pretty fun, just be aware of the dangers.
I use it to manage opiate withdrawals, it can reduce the symptoms by about half. It's basically a very weak painkiller, weaker than codeine. You'll get a slight sense of euphoria and a burst of energy for a few hours. Use sparingly because it can be addictive.
>>very addictive
if you're a casual and can't hande a little opioid withdrawal >>have to take lots to feel anything
2 grams is enough
test (actually proven)
only at higher doses, which are moronic
most of the people who "don't feel it" are using shit sources or getting it at the gas station.
I use it about 3x per week, more than that I find tolerance builds fast and negative effects kick in. my doses are usually about 3g. again, quality fresh kratom.
I like greens during the day and reds at night. greens really help with cardio and a mood boost. reds for DOMS and good sleep / relaxation.
super additiction potential. it will frick your life if you allow it to.
I don't give a frick about kratom, Chris, just put your website back online.
it's too hard stuff for your average ISTner who also has a porn and weed "addiction".
i use it as a preworkout for running and other long and hard cardio sessions. makes me able to push for way longer. especially good stuff when it's cold outside.
> i use it as a preworkout for running
Kratom is an opiate. Forbidden knowledge: opiates are a PED for endurance. You will push yourself harder and faster on them.
It’s fine if you’re not prone to bad habits (weed, drinking, excessive caffeine). Use it as a tool, like taking pre workout is a strategic use of caffeine, nitrous. I find kratom can help with DOMS, especially Bali strain.
When I tried it I felt literally nothing.
You have to take a lot to feel it. I need about twenty of the maeng da kratom pills to feel antyhing.
what is it supposed to feel like?
It is a partial agonist opioid, so you can't expect much. The lower doses are usually lightly stimulating, equal to about 100-200mg of caffeine imo.
Heres at least some information: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Kratom
does it decrease test levels? anyone know?
Can anyone give me a beginner guide?
Like what strain does what? Best way to consume? Where to buy? Please
Don't worry on particular strains, just worry about the color: red, white, or green. Red is more sedating, white stimulating, and green a balance between them.
I usually consume it by throwing it in a cup with orange juice and chugging it down. I'm usually consuming 14g per dose for the sedative opioid effects, but from what I've read/seen lower doses around 2-5g are better for stimulation. If you want a source, just do what you do for all clearnet drugs and look around. Sourcing of a legal substance should be fine though so I'll tell you I went with a company called Viable Solutions.
I only dose one a month right now, but a while back I was dosing twice a week which started having diminishing opioid effects (so I had to lower my use).
it's all the same shit. you can buy it from the gas station. it's a drug. same as any other. except it's cheap and comes in huge quantities so you will get addicted easily
i just snort heroin, so no need for it
kratom is a stimulant, unless you do moronicly high doses
I used Kratom every day for 6 months AMA.
Why?:
Severe severe daily pain in my leg after a botched surgery. Was on the verge of having a mental breakdown and quitting my job. Kratom completely vanquished my pain and let me finally sleep through the night.
Side effects?:
Holy FRICK it reeked so much havoc on my digestive system. Every time I took it I felt incredibly sick and nauseous. It felt like there were bricks in my stomach. Constipation every day. By the end of the 3rd month I would feel a wave of nausea just thinking about taking my evening dose. It started to be normal for me to throw up 2-3 times before I could actually keep it down. My body wanted to reject it so much but I needed it to manage my pain.
Other than that, pretty much nothing bad, but that itself was brutal. I was so happy to upgrade to real opiates when the doc finally gave me a prescription.
High?:
I felt a "high" for maybe the first week. Very mild, very chill. Mostly just increased tiredness/relaxation but a bit of euphoria. After the first week it didn't give me any euphoria, but continued to make me more relaxed.
Usefulness as a workout substance?
Can't imagine working out on this shit. I was too crippled that year to be hitting the gym so I don't know for sure but I felt disgustingly sick whenever I was on it, all I wanted to do was lie in bed and sleep.
I used to take it for like 2-3 years. Only quit recently.
It's basically a weak opioid. It increases energy, motivation and calms my anxiety.
Dosage really varies person to person. I don't think I ever took more than 3-4 grams, but I know most people need 5-10 grams to feel it.
Color matters the most, as others have stated. Each color has slightly different feel. I'd add that generally maeng da and malay are the strongest.
I used it because I was in a rough life situation but now it's better so I don't take it anymore. It can helps with workouts, once again it's an opioid it numbs pain and gives some extra motivation.
The problem is once you get used and accustomed to it then it can turn on you. When I started taking it it was only once a week on weekends. Then it become more and more frequent and eventually I was taking it every day multiple times. I only went out after dosing, took it at my job, or just to game, etc.. It really fits into many situations because you are not high/drunk/wasted, you don't smell or look high. You are still yourself, just "better". But you don't take it once and you start to feel the withdrawals: more anxiety, pain and less motivation than ever.
Feel free to try it though, it's pretty fun, just be aware of the dangers.
I use it to manage opiate withdrawals, it can reduce the symptoms by about half. It's basically a very weak painkiller, weaker than codeine. You'll get a slight sense of euphoria and a burst of energy for a few hours. Use sparingly because it can be addictive.
>very addictive
>have to take lots to feel anything
>lowers test (actually proven)
yeah sounds great bro
>>very addictive
if you're a casual and can't hande a little opioid withdrawal
>>have to take lots to feel anything
2 grams is enough
test (actually proven)
only at higher doses, which are moronic
Smells like shit
Nausea
Very little impact
Not worth it 100%
most of the people who "don't feel it" are using shit sources or getting it at the gas station.
I use it about 3x per week, more than that I find tolerance builds fast and negative effects kick in. my doses are usually about 3g. again, quality fresh kratom.
I like greens during the day and reds at night. greens really help with cardio and a mood boost. reds for DOMS and good sleep / relaxation.
super additiction potential. it will frick your life if you allow it to.
It and kava are mid they just get notoriety because you can't drink alchohol with one