Baldness honestly terrifies me. I think anyone who says they aren't afraid of being bald hasn't really given the idea much thought.
They say people die twice. Once when they die, and once more when their name is spoken for the very last time. I'd argue the first death a man can go through is when he goes bald.
Your hair is a physical expression of your personality, your youth and your vigor. The idea of looking at one of the very few and exclusive parts of you that is exposed and shown to the world on a daily basis rot away slowly leaving you a shadow of your former self causes my blood pressure to rise in fear. In the eyes of women, bald men are all but invisible. If pressed, they will tell comforting lies about how being bald is not an issue, but they will laugh at bald men behind their back. >I don't mind your bald head >It makes you look more manly >I think it's distinguishing >My ex boyfriend was bald!
Bald people are disgusted by women. To be perfectly honest, bald people illicit disgust in me too. I can't even look them in the eye because I'm hyperfocused on their receding hairline, their transparent scalp hair, the way their greasy forehead is coated in a layer of stinky grease.
I think all bald men know this deep down. They have been relegated to background characters in the game of life. They look on people with hair with envious eyes and find places in threads like this, like crabs in a bucket pulling people with the time and resources to save their hair back down to their level. They are driven on a primal genetic level to not let other men succeed where they have failed. Everyone must be as ugly and rotten as they appear.
It truly frightens me IST. Where some see men without hair, I see dead men walking, left on this earth to suffer.
You need to chill lol. Women's sexuality works on daddy issues, so some of them find baldness really hot. Some of them find it disgusting. Never listen to anyone who lumps all women together into some monstrosity. They're individuals, you know?
But yeah at first going bald destroyed me, but only because I had long hair most of my life. I don't see why it would affect someone who kept their hair short anyway.
Fucking kek. I got a buzzcut with full head of hair and I still look good. Hair only matters for ugly, no chin motherfuckers who got nothing else. If that's the case for you, yeah I think you should hop on those pills.
>hair transplant
You have to take finasteride to maintain it. That was the clincher for me to just start fin before my hair reached a level like that. >wear a wig
Awful. I'd hate being a fake like that, even with these advanced hair systems they have these days. There's actually a guy that works in my local pharmacy and he wears an obvious wig. I'm not a dick but I'm so tempted to casually ask him how much it cost him just to see his reaction lmao. Too bad I'm not a dick 'cause that would be funny af. Who knows he might try to shoot me though.
This is what literally everyone who says just get a hair transplant says. Eventually they all break.
I genuinely think the people who rail against fin are low key evil. Millions of men are on fin and don't say anything about it. They find the most vulnerable people on the internet and bully people out of saving their hair with epithets about trannies and being a real man.
Saying being bald is fine and you should go bald too is no different to fat people saying being fat is okay. Granted you won't die of being bald, but you're as
https://i.imgur.com/NSjNPt0.jpg
Baldness honestly terrifies me. I think anyone who says they aren't afraid of being bald hasn't really given the idea much thought.
They say people die twice. Once when they die, and once more when their name is spoken for the very last time. I'd argue the first death a man can go through is when he goes bald.
Your hair is a physical expression of your personality, your youth and your vigor. The idea of looking at one of the very few and exclusive parts of you that is exposed and shown to the world on a daily basis rot away slowly leaving you a shadow of your former self causes my blood pressure to rise in fear. In the eyes of women, bald men are all but invisible. If pressed, they will tell comforting lies about how being bald is not an issue, but they will laugh at bald men behind their back. >I don't mind your bald head >It makes you look more manly >I think it's distinguishing >My ex boyfriend was bald!
Bald people are disgusted by women. To be perfectly honest, bald people illicit disgust in me too. I can't even look them in the eye because I'm hyperfocused on their receding hairline, their transparent scalp hair, the way their greasy forehead is coated in a layer of stinky grease.
I think all bald men know this deep down. They have been relegated to background characters in the game of life. They look on people with hair with envious eyes and find places in threads like this, like crabs in a bucket pulling people with the time and resources to save their hair back down to their level. They are driven on a primal genetic level to not let other men succeed where they have failed. Everyone must be as ugly and rotten as they appear.
It truly frightens me IST. Where some see men without hair, I see dead men walking, left on this earth to suffer.
>I genuinely think the people who rail against fin are low key evil. Millions of men are on fin and don't say anything about it.
cool well I did it and ended up with a permanent anxiety disorder from it
finasteride is pure garden gnome poison. look up the studies on dna methylation and how it fucks with the sex receptors in your brain. capable of permanently killing your sex drive.
i've never been the same. fuck finasteride.
anybody thinking about it should just go bald or get a transplant. hair cloning and a cure for this shit is far too close to risk rolling the dice on garden gnome poison
Anyone who disagrees with this is in denial or coping hard. I've seen it first hand, I had a close female friend in university and was sometimes with her in her female friend group, what a red pill it was to hear girls openly talking how they would normally talk to each other by themselves. One of the most shocking things to me was all of them laughing at her bald ex boyfriend, making fun of his baldness in the most demeaning way and calling him ugly even though his face wasn't even ugly at all. From that point on I knew I was never going to let myself go bald.
lel buddy I've had lots of female friends and the #1 thing I've learned is that what they say, and what they do, have zero correlation. Frrom my experience, when women shit on guys, it's because they are insecure about that very thing and are projecting. If they are doing it in a group, they are saying it to try to fit in. You would not fucking BELIEVE the shit women would tell me, and then go and do that very thing they were just bitching about. Including men. Had a girl go on and on to me about this one guy in her class who's a weirdo and creepy and is always making faces at her and she hates it. Few months later, oh look, she fucked him.
Seriously, stop listening to what women say. It's COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Only care about what they do.
lmao. Little beta orbiter got frustrated because her girl friends said something about bald people. Meanwhile the bald dude just went and fucked those bitches and left with absolutely no care in the world. Never trust a woman's word; it's her actions which display what kind of girl he really is. Also stop giving a fuck about what those bitches think
Baldness honestly terrifies me. I think anyone who says they aren't afraid of being bald hasn't really given the idea much thought.
They say people die twice. Once when they die, and once more when their name is spoken for the very last time. I'd argue the first death a man can go through is when he goes bald.
Your hair is a physical expression of your personality, your youth and your vigor. The idea of looking at one of the very few and exclusive parts of you that is exposed and shown to the world on a daily basis rot away slowly leaving you a shadow of your former self causes my blood pressure to rise in fear. In the eyes of women, bald men are all but invisible. If pressed, they will tell comforting lies about how being bald is not an issue, but they will laugh at bald men behind their back. >I don't mind your bald head >It makes you look more manly >I think it's distinguishing >My ex boyfriend was bald!
Bald people are disgusted by women. To be perfectly honest, bald people illicit disgust in me too. I can't even look them in the eye because I'm hyperfocused on their receding hairline, their transparent scalp hair, the way their greasy forehead is coated in a layer of stinky grease.
I think all bald men know this deep down. They have been relegated to background characters in the game of life. They look on people with hair with envious eyes and find places in threads like this, like crabs in a bucket pulling people with the time and resources to save their hair back down to their level. They are driven on a primal genetic level to not let other men succeed where they have failed. Everyone must be as ugly and rotten as they appear.
It truly frightens me IST. Where some see men without hair, I see dead men walking, left on this earth to suffer.
they hate him because he spoke the truth
>You have to take finasteride to maintain it
This is what literally everyone who says just get a hair transplant says. Eventually they all break.
I genuinely think the people who rail against fin are low key evil. Millions of men are on fin and don't say anything about it. They find the most vulnerable people on the internet and bully people out of saving their hair with epithets about trannies and being a real man.
Saying being bald is fine and you should go bald too is no different to fat people saying being fat is okay. Granted you won't die of being bald, but you're as [...] said, you're already dead anyway
>worrying about and deriving self-worth based on what women think
so nu-IST is openly omega, on the same level as onlyfans simps, now? I don't think it's possible to sink any lower
Like the other poster said, what women say and what they really do and think are different things. In your case you have to view it as emotional support in a group setting for the girl coping with the loss of her relationship. Also there's group pressure, just like guys who might be shy to admit their preference for say, slampigs in front of the guys.
So just chill out and don't be such a fatalist gay.
I've noticed bald people have this weird sad resigned look in their eyes, it's creepy. You can actually see it in those "shaving my head for the first time" videos where it's like their soul is literally leaving their body.
Honestly, this is what I feel like happens and this is what I fear for myself. That stage where you give up, shave what's left, you go to the point of no return. It must be a horrifying feeling.
I've noticed bald people have this weird sad resigned look in their eyes, it's creepy. You can actually see it in those "shaving my head for the first time" videos where it's like their soul is literally leaving their body.
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Sometimes I go to Reddit and look at the first page of r/bald just to see what you described.
Truly disturbing imagery
Honestly, this is what I feel like happens and this is what I fear for myself. That stage where you give up, shave what's left, you go to the point of no return. It must be a horrifying feeling.
imagine having existentialist crisis over fucking hair, must be a chud
My dude, if you went bald and didn't catch it in time, that's on you. Being bald is just as devastating to aesthetics as being obese or a manlet. People rightfully care about their hair. Just because you've deluded yourself into being okay with your situation doesn't mean anyone else is.
>ahhh secondary male sex characteristics scare me, its like my chud soul is RIPPED from my body no longer being able to larp as a woman
nobody cares you were born a male, deal with being a male.
>Nobody cares you were born a male
You're right. Part of being a male is understanding your inherent value is 0 and another part of being male is fighting for every thing that makes you valuable tooth and nail. Hair include.
I didn't think anything of bald guys when I saw them, didn't care at all, but that's cuz I'm a hetero dude. Then my hair loss started and I started seeing them as dysgenic chrome dome aliens and I hoped to god I wouldn't end up like one. Every time I see a guy with just a thinning scalp my stomach gets knotted a little bit. I really hope the fin works and my dick doesn't fall off, otherwise it's over.
Had no idea hair loss was so common. Shaved my head during covid for the hell of it and was absolutely horrified to see how it grew out. The length/thickness has been covering up seriously receding temples and a bald spot. I’d been getting expensive haircuts so they must have styled it in a way that it would be hard to notice. I had no idea. Did dermapenning and minoxidil and results have been good. Really pleased, actually. If it stops working I’ll go on fun
I worked a job that had a lot of young pretty girls employed. There were a couple points where they'd mention some dude, like a friend's dad or electrician at the business or whoever, and say he was a dilf. Almost all the guys they mentioned were completely bald or had the horseshoe thing going on.
On the other hand, I've seen really sad looking balding guys in bars desperately trying to stitch their remaining hairs into a pathetic combover.
If your only concern about going bald is that you'll become invisible to women then you should stop being a fag first
If those guys actually had hair like that, their confidence would drop a lot and they would look meek and insecure. They look fine photoshopped because they have the demeanor of full hair still in their personalities.
baldness is a way to eject your dumb ass from the genepool if you weren't smart enough to marry and procreate when you were supposed to.
absolutely ruined levels of baldness won't typically happen until you're around mid 30s.
early to late 20s, when it would be reasonable for you to marry and breed, baldlets will typically have enough hair that people will not 100% consider them baldlets yet.
predetermined to go bald? just breed bro!
recessed jaw? just breed bro!
sub 100 iq? just breed bro!
vitiligo/other skin condition? just breed bro!
cerebral palsy? just breed bro!
5'2''? just breed bro!
etc.
I hate breeders like you so much. Maybe dysgenic shitters shouldn't have more disgusting abomination children? Maybe you don't curse children to the same fate just so you could satisfy your grug brain retardation?
>Missing the point this hard
Way to miss the forest for the trees, retards. The point is that none of these traits should be passed on, because they're all negative traits that no one wants to have. Whether they're comparable is completely fucking irrelevent, you dipshits. How can people be this fucking stupid?
You fucking moron, you don't understand how genetics work. You may have something, but it may not be pronounced. Like my father and brother aren't balding at all, but I started balding in my early twenties.
Shut the fuck up with these bullshit, retarded statements, that make you yourself look like 70IQ mouth-breather.
I cannot find the words to express just how much I hate you stupid ignorant troglodyte fucks
I've been taking fin for months, have ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO negative side effects, but you keto carnivore dickless permavirgin aspie sperglord fat retards keep convincing people not to even try 1 mg per day because they'd suppsedly grow bitch tits and have their peckers wilt forever by the end of the week
look at how much estrogen these guys have lmao
it's not normal to react this emotionally
>baldness is a way to eject your dumb ass from the genepool if you weren't smart enough to marry and procreate when you were supposed to.
probably the most retarded thing said in this thread.
Fin made me grow loads more hair, to the point that my wife whenever she plays with my hair comments on how much new growth there is.
I'm not saying its given me growth in places I never had it, my hairline has always been fucked. But I was losing it on the top as well and now its much thicker.
I don't want my dick to stop working. I've had problems with it for a while and only now am I back to busting huge loads and getting a chub just from thinking of ass. I'm scared but my shit's getting worse so I have to make a choice.
>another dumbfuck that doesn't realise how much finasteride has feminised his brain
have you ever taken a few months off and observed how your behaviour changes?
>muh neurosteroids
Literally not active on the type 1 isozyme nor in the cerebral spinal fluid, mechanistically impossible cope harder norwood reaper gay
>hairline recedes a bit >go to a dermatologist >ask for finasteride >he doesn't give it to me
is it over? he presribed me some multi-vitamin with onions isoflavones and herb extracts
Better than I thought he'd look tbh. Out of all of the guys in the original picture I thought Jake and Leo would be the least likely to pull off the bald look.
in a perfect system women would be islam style house slaves picked by an all encompassing bureaucratic YET benevolent state thats sole goal is to slowly create a population of 10/10 by slowly making everyone beautiful(thus equal) using positive eugenics measures like putting a 3.5 with 5 so the children are 4’s and then marrying the 4’s with 5’s and so on
Unironically yes, balding in your 30s is normal so you're essentially in the clear no matter when you start balding at this point. Us balding in our 20s bros are more oppressed than gamers.
Unironically yes, balding in your 30s is normal so you're essentially in the clear no matter when you start balding at this point. Us balding in our 20s bros are more oppressed than gamers.
Gonna try rosemary essential oil and LLLT helmet before considering chemical castration. >essential oil
Yes I know, do your research before having your sperg fit, proven to work just as well as rogai .
I cannot find the words to express just how much I hate you stupid ignorant troglodyte fucks
I've been taking fin for months, have ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO negative side effects, but you keto carnivore dickless permavirgin aspie sperglord fat retards keep convincing people not to even try 1 mg per day because they'd suppsedly grow bitch tits and have their peckers wilt forever by the end of the week
Fin sides are totally real though. You’re dick probably won’t shrivel up overnight but it definitely fucks with things and even brief usage can cause lingering problems
you are an uneducated retard who is so incredibly stupid and inbred that it is a wonder you can type with all the drool falling from your slackjawed fuckhole
you know nothing about anything and if you were to disappear right now the world would instantly become a better place for everyone (do it)
you are an uneducated retard who is so incredibly stupid and inbred that it is a wonder you can type with all the drool falling from your slackjawed fuckhole
you know nothing about anything and if you were to disappear right now the world would instantly become a better place for everyone (do it)
he's right and the fact that you've displayed such emotion is a tacit indication of your acknowledgement. no one cares what you do. it's your body.
The chad embrace works if you were a chad to start. If you've got a weak incel bone structure you're fucked no matter what your hair looks like. Stop making these threads, it's a solved problem.
You guys need to go out more. Being bald just means you have to make up for it in other ways, depending on how you look. Is it fair that you gotta do more work than the average person, maybe not but that’s the way it goes.
I started shaving my scalp back in high school, purely by choice and went like that for most of my adult life.
Even then, over 30 at time, finding out that all I can grow now is male pattern baldness sucked.
***and what does dermarolling do?
can you just dermaroll without taking fin/min and will that stop hair loss/grow hair?
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Your hair follicle is dying due to DHT sensitivity. Fin reduces the amount of DHT on the scalp in turn stopping this process.
Min from what I understand speeds up and lengthens the growth cycle of hairs on the scalp. It doesn't address the root issue and eventually the hair loss will continue.
I think derma rolling encourages the growth of new hair too. It supposedly improves the effects of minoxidil immensely.
Check out HairCafe or Hair Loss Show on YouTube. Both channels provide a lot of info and will give better explanation than me. Kevin is a bit abrasive but I think he's just trying to get people to act before it's too late.
When fin came out and showed decent results it was a very big deal. People latched on to the idea that hair loss was caused by DHT and unless you were blocking DHT you were fucked. Min doesn't block DHT and it was deemed inferior. People started saying that min was just a growth stimulant and didn't really protect your hair or grow back any new hair.
Of course that's bullshit and flies in the face of everything we had learned about min. Don't underestimate the power of a small group of uniformed retards screeching at a bunch of cowardly, gullible betas. See IST for example.
i've always had a high hairline and a big fucking head, plus a widows peak. it's concerning because i don't know if i'd be able to recognize when i started losing hair. does it just come out in clumps in the shower like in a fucking horror movie, or do you just wake up one day and you suddenly realize that you've slowly become a bald man?
Look at your hands after you shampoo. You will see some hairs. If/when you are balding, there will be more of them. A diffuse thinner with recession might just see twice as many as normal. Heavy shedders will see a lot of hair, totally covering their hands. They can also brush or shake their over the sink and see profuse hair fall. This level of shedding is also often accompanied by a distinct itch.
Man…I had this happen last year. I had thiccc and curly hair and all the sudden I could fill my sink with hair that I could rub off and my scalp was soo itchy…after a few months I could see the crown of my head in light. I was so depressed bros…after so much deliberation with myself I got on finastride and that seems to help. I’m maintaining what I have and see some thickness in the crown again.
i don't know if it's relevant at all, but in like my second year of college, i started noticing fuckloads of hair coming out. like i'd wake up and there would be more than just a couple hairs on my pillow, and i'd pull out fingerfuls in the shower.
i started taking a multivitamin and it totally fixed it. i think it was just that my diet was really trash at that point in time. may not be relevant to actual balding, but i still take a multivitamin because it's super cheap, and i figure it covers me from any fuckups in my diet.
Vitamins probably wouldn’t have solved my issue…my dad went bald in his early 30s and I looked at old photos of him and I see a similar pattern of hair loss…then I went to a derma to get lab tests and they said my body was producing to much DHT, I probably get that from my dad as well….he has prostate issues which is commonly caused by to much dht. I have gotten any of the fin sides
yeah almost certainly not. and i wouldn't say you should take vitamins and not take finasteride if you've got hormonal balding. but b vitamins are important for your hair and nails. wishing you luck, my man. it's fucked that some people have to go through that.
Thank god you got on fin when you did, how long you been on it? There's a very good chance it will completely recover
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Thanks man. Almost a month now. Don’t see any more shedding so that’s a relief
1 month ago
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>Don’t see any more shedding so that’s a relief
You're gonna. Don't freak out when it happens. After 2-3 months on fin, you're gonna start to shed like crazy, even more than before you started. This is normal and shows that the drug works. It's gonna stop after 1-1.5 months.
> Look at your hands after you shampoo. You will see some hairs. If/when you are balding, there will be more of them
Yeah but how much more?
I always have shed hairs when I wash my hair.
I thought the first sign of balding was to see hair on your pillow after waking up.
This is me. Even the horrible itch. Where did you learn of this? Not everybody knows about the itch and/ or this type of MPB. If you get back on, @ me with reading material if you have any
>2yrs on fin, 1mg daily >kirkland min once or twice a day >nizoral on Wed night and Sat night >dermastamp every week Sat night
Maintained, some improvement esp on the crown, but hairline still btfo and the itch is still present. The itch alone just makes me want to go full-blown eunuch. As if MPB wasnt bad enough i have to get the itch too
>Where did you learn of this? >@ me with reading material if you have any
Sorry, but I don't have any extra tips on the itch. I just wanted to aware people about it. I learned about it from reading hair loss and bodybuilding forums for a while, even before I had issues.
I'm a diffuse thinner myself and my hair loss started after upping my dose on TRT. I'm off TRT now and microneedling once per week (don't tolerate min or 5ar inhibitors). My hair loss has stopped and there is small, slow regrowth.
>Why would you take TRT if you know you're prone to hair loss?
I didn't have MPB until I was on TRT. The shedding also didn't start until I increased the dose >200mg/week. At my initial lower dose of 100mg/week my hair actually grew a little faster, maybe from higher estrogen and/or IGF1. However, I didn't really feel much better energy and depression wise unless I was at 150mg+/week, where I would shed.
Basically, I found out the hard way my hair loss is mostly threshold dependent. I have read similar anecdotes on TRT and steroid forums. Bros, even in their 30s, are NW1 until they start pinning and then their hairline starts melting.
If there's a ton of itching it's usually a fungal issue. It started happening to me during winters when it would get too dry, I got hella itchy and shredded ton of hair in the shower. Stopping fungal growth with nizarol was the only thing that worked for me, no itchyness or shedding anymore.
I have a lot of hair on my hands in the shower from time to time, it's been like this for years. I also can find hair in my brush, my hands after running through my hair. I can find them here and there in my appartment. But my hairline hasn't changed. Got nervous several times after reading comments like this though.
he gets even more masculine and powerful looking while sacrificing some youth and pretty boyness. Having like a 1-3mm stubble on the head would look even better
>is cavill more attractive bald?
No. His eye area, though very good looking, is too soft for a shaved head. He still manages to look pretty good because of his basically perfect bone structure.
Travolta on the other hand, looks much better since he ditched the hair pieces.
he gets even more masculine and powerful looking while sacrificing some youth and pretty boyness. Having like a 1-3mm stubble on the head would look even better
He still looks good bald or balding. This one is real no photoshop.
It's honestly hilarious reading through these threads. I don't know which ones i prefer, the manlet or the baldfag despairposts. I'm not affected by either of these issues and they seem so completely trivial to me that reading the essays and seeing these retarded edits is like walking into a bizzaro world >DUDE I GOTTA DO DA CHAD EMBRACE LET ME TOOL AROUND IN THE AEROSTAR IN THE PARKING LOT >DUDE YOU CANT SHAVE IT YOU GOTTA HOP ON FINODIXASUCKATOMOL AND TAIWAENESE BATH HALENOX 6000 TO KEEP THOSE 5 STRANDS OF HAIR YOU GOT LEFT
It's ridiculous. I'm here with a full head of hair not really giving it much thought because it hasnt given anything to me in my life and i see these boomer freakshows going on a tirade about how their life is over because their hairline is receding. It's just so fucking stupid that i can't even begin wrapping my head around it. Like, really. Can you imagine some Roman 2250 years ago giving a flying fuck about his hairline, MUCH LESS have a mental breakdown over it? No. Because he was a fucking man. This is some post-modern culture of narccisism type bullshit, where vanity is commonplace even for males and when everyone is tainted by neolibtardism to such a degree that they feel that everything in life is a competitive marketplace and they need to maximize their points or some shit.
Bald men were forbidden from entering the roman bathhouses as it was believed balding was contagious. That means no gay bathhouse sex, so balding was the same as being dead in Rome.
I have a full head of hair too and
1. just gloating would have been enough. Why the fuck are you doing "dude embrace le masculininty romans vanity etc" when you aren't balding yourself? You don't know what it's like
2. It'll happen to you
it's not negative because you would have already reproduced before you went bald. so even if being bald negatively impacts your ability to reproduce, it happens after you've spread your genes.
it's probably a consequence of increasing amounts of DHT, and generating more secondary sex characteristics, which would improve reproductive fitness.
There are a couple of moronic theories I've heard. One is it might be to help with vitamin D absorption from the sun. Seriously doubt full headed dudes died before being able to reproduce because of lack of vit D and being bald fixed that. Although IST memes that Europeans have higher rates of baldness so eh.
Another theory is bald men are less likely to abandon their partner/kids for some sexy young harlots since they're no longer as attractive to them, so they stay with their families and their kids survive. This actually does make sense to a degree but it's still stupid.
Bottom line, for whatever reason a strange mutation happened where some males' hair follicles became sensitive to DHT and they end up balding. Sure it sucks but most still manage to cum inside women and pass on their genes so it just wasn't something that nature selected against en-masse which is why you get so many bald motherfuckers. Over 50% of men have significant hair loss by the age of 60.
>unusually thin or short hairs falling out
That... actually makes a lot of sense. I havent been paying a lot of attention to the length but I think they've mostly been on the longer side. My hair however is naturally thin, would I still be able to differentiate?
Some days I barely have any on my hand and some days theres a small collection of it on the drain.
Im just super stressed about it because Im growing my hair out and will be incredibly depressed if I cant do that. I know longer hair is a lot easier to spot when falling out than shorter hair but the thought of balding ever sits in the back of my brain.
I don't know you're exact situation but the long and short of it is that hair doesn't just fall out and never grow back. It grows back thinner and shorter each time until it can't even break out of the skin leaving you bald. Everyone has a few miniaturized hairs on their head, even women. You should worry when the hairs start looking more like spider webs than hair.
as long as they are single strands you're fine, when you start seeing super dark 'strands,' it means you just lost a clump of strands right next to each other in which you should worry now
Anyone tried eating gelatin? My female friend has pretty thick hair and she says she makes sure to eat Jello every day because of the gelatin and how it makes her hair&nails healthy.
Could be something there...we don't really get much gelatin in our diet as we used to since most people just eat muscle meats.
>caught early
by this I mean the thinning is not yet so bad. My hair loss has been very slow. I probably started thinning ten years ago but it only recently got slightly noticeable (how it is in the pic). I'm 36 btw. Fin is generally just to maintain but it can cause miniaturised hairs to grow back thicker, which is why it's great for diffuse thinners. There are better results than mine. I've seen pics of far thinner skulls with significant regrowth, apparently only from fin. Obviously if you're a slaphead fin alone won't do shit for you. I've also seen results on r/tressless where NW7 slapheads get full heads of hair back from fin + min + dermarolling but I've no idea how commonly that happens.
Hair to a degree needs constant DHT exposure to maintain its miniaturized state. Assuming you catch it early enough it will just grow back like normal.
That's not embracing being bald, that's clinging to a lost image. He should shave it all off and go Mr. Clean mode. If you're not some DYEL little pussy people will respect you.
The balding man prayed to God. "Please god, save my hairline, I am so young. I have so much more of my life to enjoy."
The next day, the balding man saw an add for a derma roller in on the his news feed.
"Heh, no way people actually use that. I'll just rub some coconuts juice on my temples."
Later that night, the balding man kneeled down against his bed and clasped his hands on prayer. "Oh lord, can you hear me? I pray to you daily but my hear keeps thinning. I trust in your power lord."
The next day the balding man went to Costco to buy his 50 pack bag of string cheese from the dairy aisle. On the way to the counter he saw a poster to buy Kirkland Brand Minoxidil from the in store pharmacy for a reasonable price. "Eww, I heard that Minoxidil makes your scalp greasy and causes even more shedding. I'll just eat more b vitamins and hair meditations to save my hair."
That night the balding man did his usual prayers. "Dear god in heaven, I know you work in mysterious ways, but no voodoo rituals or coconut smoothies or red lasers are helping my failing follicles. I pray you will do something soon before it's too late."
The next day the balding man went on IST he wanted to learn more about building his pecs and getting that Jason Statham look. He saw a thread regarding baldness and clicked on it in curiousity "What?! FINASTERIDE? a literal chud used that once to restore their hair therefore everyone who uses it is a chud. I will just use caffeine shampoo to boost my bangs into submission".
The weeks went on and the balding man eventually became bald. The years went by and nothing could stop the legendary retreat of his hideous hairlines. Every Halloween costume become one punch man, every haircut became "just shave it off". Needless to say, he got zero poon. The years went by but none of his coping treatments worked. Finally he crawled into bed for the last time. Old and alone and died in his sleep.
When he arrived in heaven he spoke to God.
"Oh god, why didn't you save me from going bald? I loved a life of hardship because of your refusal to do anything"
God responded to the bald man (he was bald in heaven too lol).
"My child, I sent you the derma roller and you dismissed it"
The bald man protested.
"How could it possibly work?"
God ran his fingers through his thick locks of hair. " It seems to work for me. I also sent you the Kirkland Brand Minoxidil at a reasonable price."
The bald man rebutted.
"Minoxidil dries out your skin and ages you."
"No my child, aging ages you, Minoxidil is proven to increase blood flow to the scalp and increase hair density." God indicated to his locks.
"Finally, I sent you Finasteride and you rebuked it entirely."
The bald man was now red as a tomato. He looked like one too because bald people when they're angry look like tomatos.
"But God! Trannies use Finasteride. I am not a chud."
"My child, Finasteride will not turn you into a chud, the copious amounts of estrogen they are consuming will. Finasteride is strictly for hair and prostate health in older men."
The bald man looked dejected. "but why am I bald in heaven?"
"Lol lmao"
The balding man prayed to God. "Please god, save my hairline, I am so young. I have so much more of my life to enjoy."
The next day, the balding man saw an add for a derma roller in on the his news feed.
"Heh, no way people actually use that. I'll just rub some coconuts juice on my temples."
Later that night, the balding man kneeled down against his bed and clasped his hands on prayer. "Oh lord, can you hear me? I pray to you daily but my hear keeps thinning. I trust in your power lord."
The next day the balding man went to Costco to buy his 50 pack bag of string cheese from the dairy aisle. On the way to the counter he saw a poster to buy Kirkland Brand Minoxidil from the in store pharmacy for a reasonable price. "Eww, I heard that Minoxidil makes your scalp greasy and causes even more shedding. I'll just eat more b vitamins and hair meditations to save my hair."
That night the balding man did his usual prayers. "Dear god in heaven, I know you work in mysterious ways, but no voodoo rituals or coconut smoothies or red lasers are helping my failing follicles. I pray you will do something soon before it's too late."
The next day the balding man went on IST he wanted to learn more about building his pecs and getting that Jason Statham look. He saw a thread regarding baldness and clicked on it in curiousity "What?! FINASTERIDE? a literal chud used that once to restore their hair therefore everyone who uses it is a chud. I will just use caffeine shampoo to boost my bangs into submission".
The weeks went on and the balding man eventually became bald. The years went by and nothing could stop the legendary retreat of his hideous hairlines. Every Halloween costume become one punch man, every haircut became "just shave it off". Needless to say, he got zero poon. The years went by but none of his coping treatments worked. Finally he crawled into bed for the last time. Old and alone and died in his sleep.
When he arrived in heaven he spoke to God.
"Oh god, why didn't you save me from going bald? I loved a life of hardship because of your refusal to do anything"
God responded to the bald man (he was bald in heaven too lol).
"My child, I sent you the derma roller and you dismissed it"
The bald man protested.
"How could it possibly work?"
God ran his fingers through his thick locks of hair. " It seems to work for me. I also sent you the Kirkland Brand Minoxidil at a reasonable price."
The bald man rebutted.
"Minoxidil dries out your skin and ages you."
"No my child, aging ages you, Minoxidil is proven to increase blood flow to the scalp and increase hair density." God indicated to his locks.
"Finally, I sent you Finasteride and you rebuked it entirely."
The bald man was now red as a tomato. He looked like one too because bald people when they're angry look like tomatos.
"But God! Trannies use Finasteride. I am not a chud."
"My child, Finasteride will not turn you into a chud, the copious amounts of estrogen they are consuming will. Finasteride is strictly for hair and prostate health in older men."
The bald man looked dejected. "but why am I bald in heaven?"
"Lol lmao"
ive done a #1 buzz ever since the chink flu lockdowns + noticing i was thinning at my crown. maybe ill grow it out again with minoxidil, but i honestly dont care.
This whole dialog about the meds being poison is so useless and point blank retarded
This is pure cope
Poeple search online about comments of people with bad effects and never mind getting a full picture
Those obese motherfuckers that eat ifood delivery everyday and cant cook, cant lift shit, play vidya everyday
Yes, the dick dies
Finasteride change you, you will notice it for sure
Belive.me, you will notice it
But if you experience existence as a high level primate is suposed to do as we are right know at the evolutiom stage, what i mean by this is that you must use your body as it was evolved to be used, tear fibers, punish it, make effort
If you do it, your dick will turn on and get hard by its own when you see naked woman (misterious effect)
Only thing that changes is the cum.. it will be a lot more prostate fuids.and.way less spermatozoids.
It is more volume, less white.
I came out the point where I looked like tje Beetle Juice taking pics with wet hair at beach to a full and thick crown of thin follicles app over my head
I have thin follicles, not curled ones and it is way harder to hide
This gene comes from your mother!!!! Look you mother father for clues.
Try it you stupid retarded. You dont even use your dick, incel larper.
Coper, useless piece of meat roamming the earth
Die!
I wish you are in reach so I could beat the soul out you body for u being suck a pussy for all this time!
Dead roots cant me recovered! God damn! I need.to kill.someting living
>this gene comes from your mother!!!! Look you mother father for clues.
This gene can come from literally anybody in your family, you can get it from your father, mother, any of your grandparents, great grandparents, whatever. The idea that it comes from your mother is a misunderstanding of the fact that women can have DHT sensitivity, and pass it on, while not presenting with male pattern baldness themselves because they do not have sufficient androgens in their body.
>This gene
It's not one gene. There are many genes that take part in determining balding, that's why you get an array of balding patterns and aggressiveness.
Are you not able to see side effects happening? You don't just grow boobs overnight. It would take months of ignoring sides to get gyno and that side effect is even more rare than ED, which is already uncommon. Most people usually just get watery cum or ball aching which doesn't last forever.
no but more like feel them sensitive nipples and an itch also they looked different more puffy looking, i didn't get ed or any of the other side effects you said maybe ball aching in my first dose, i already got gyno tbh didn't want to wait months for it to develop it seems even 0.25 mg causes side effects, maybe i'll try topical or some other way to get around it
>more puffy looking
uhhh... this is hot... i need to start finasteride
no but more like feel them sensitive nipples and an itch also they looked different more puffy looking, i didn't get ed or any of the other side effects you said maybe ball aching in my first dose, i already got gyno tbh didn't want to wait months for it to develop it seems even 0.25 mg causes side effects, maybe i'll try topical or some other way to get around it
Do you have gyno or like 98% of guys that say this they actually just fat?
Unless you have a flat stomach with at least the beginnings of abs your chest fat is just that fat.
>be me >take fin for a year >make noticeable and very welcome hair gains >see zero negative side effects >be happy
meanwhile you brainlets shake with fear and spread misinformation, while we all know that the milisecond you notice your hairline receding you will bankrupt yourselves from buying every microneedler, dht suppressant for horses and snake oil under the sun
goes double for everyone who bought into the "just shave it bro" meme, shaved it bro, and found that they absolutely don't look anything like the rock/vin diesel/jason statham and instead look like a basedlet, feel a constant weird cold and can't pull your tshirt over your head because your scalp is like sandpaper 10 hrs after shaving
just stop being a crybaby, take 1 mg of fin per day, wait for the shedding to pass and admire your normal-looking hair by the end of the year
I have norwood 2.5-3
I use these tips on a daily basis and literally every single person in my life either asked me if I got an implant or audibly congratulated me for my success
>minox every night >dont wash hair with anything if I wanna have thick hair for the next 3 days >dont wear a hat or anything
just minox, take vitamins, eat good, work out and dont shampoo your hair. natural oil that forms after 3 days looks fantastic.
also, make peace with going bald at some point, makes life easier
This is my routine as someone who has a bald dad but isn't going bald for now. I also take biotin, collagen, and D3 vitamins. Microneedling is for acne scars since I don't really have that much hair loss.
This is my routine as someone who has a bald dad but isn't going bald for now. I also take biotin, collagen, and D3 vitamins. Microneedling is for acne scars since I don't really have that much hair loss.
Used minox for 6 months, barely any progress made on the temples but had more hairs on the top of my scalp. Started Finasteride a month and now my hairs are coming on my temples
Balding is not natural. Yes there are genes that increase the likelihood of balding, but studies show that with every generation the amount of balding young men increase steadily. It's something in our diets and every lifestyle that worsens it's effects.
>Is minoxodil useless without dermarolling?
No. Minox and microneedling (pens are much better than rollers btw) are both growth promoters. They work through different pathways and you can use both. Microneedling has generally displaced keto shampoo as the third part of "the big three" hair loss prevention tools (the other two being fin/dut and minox).
Also, shallow microneedling (0.5mm) and retinoids have both been shown to enhance minox penetration and effectiveness.
https://i.imgur.com/abktApd.jpg
I have a lot of hair on my hands in the shower from time to time, it's been like this for years. I also can find hair in my brush, my hands after running through my hair. I can find them here and there in my appartment. But my hairline hasn't changed. Got nervous several times after reading comments like this though.
It's a sustained increase in the amount of shedding that matters more than the absolute quantity.
Ah yes the eternal finasteride thread. Why is IST engaged in an endless war over this drug? If you wanna use it to save your hair then do so, if you don't, then don't lmao. Why do people get so mad over this? Love these threads btw, they're too much fucking fun tbh.
I've been on fin for 27 months now, I feel like in the last 6 months I've started losing hair again but it might just be in my head (kek). Is this usual? I'm pretty sure I'm a diffuse thinner. The hair all over my head is not as thick as it used to be and the amount of recession is very minor for how long I went without fin (about 3 years when I first suspected hair loss).
Before I started fin, I was seeing 100-200 hairs in the shower. after being on fin for a while, that dropped to about 20-50. That hasn't changed much but my hair seems to be looking worse (not as thick) each time I get a hair cut. Also worth noting that in the first 1-2 years of using fin my hair would get dry like straw and itchy, but this doesn't happen anymore.
Is it worth switching to dutasteride or will that just stop working too? I don't want to use minoxidil.
My tinnitus became really bad after 18 months on finasteride. I got mood problems too. Yesterday I looked it up and finasteride also completely blocks some vital neurosteroids involved in mental processes and hearing. Not sure how to proceed.
Just want to say it again. By far the most useful thing I learned from this place was dermapen+minoxidil. I was headed toward a Norwood 3 with a bald spot and I’m essentially a Norwood 1 on one side even short now and a Norwood 2 on the other that’s covered up when my hair is longer. Bald spot was hardest to fix but even that had slow but steady progress and is covered up when my hair is 2 inches or longer. About as close to a miracle cure as I could have hoped for
They say not to do this and maybe it’s a bad idea but my skin is thick so I used 2.5. Forgot to mention I was able to shave my head because of covid which I think helped significantly
I’m a woman and I left the last man who tried to be my bf. He was bald by choice and had attractive features until his hair started to grow and I realized his true hairline. I couldn’t imagine my children having these shit genes inside so I just leave him.
If you’re a man and you’re balding, I hate you. You’re a disgrace and you shouldn’t reproduce.
Has anyone been on fin long-term? I'm at 6 years now. I started at age 30 when I had some receding of the hairline without loss on the crown. I've had some minor side effects, but after my initial shed and regrowth my hair loss has been completely paused. I was worried about having kids, but easily conceived 2 healthy boys. Overall, I'm very glad I started it.
you didnt take a break from fin to conceive?
btw i've heard some people take two weeks or a month off from fin every 6 months, do u do that? why do some ppl do this?
>you didnt take a break from fin to conceive?
Nah. I planned on stopping if we had trouble, but my wife got pregnant after 2-3 months. With our 2nd son she pulled the IUD and we got it first try thankfully. >btw i've heard some people take two weeks or a month off from fin every 6 months, do u do that? why do some ppl do this?
I'm not sure about that. Maybe because of side-effects?
There are a lot of reported side effects with Finasteride, the only issue is there is a huge overlap of these symptoms and anxiety in general and they only seem to manifest in people who have heard of the side effects in the first place.
I think the only real side effect that is verifiable is watery ejaculations, which makes sense because it was originally a drug designed to medicate enlarged prostates.
bros im a NW3 right now. ive just been buzzing it and applying rosemary oil and leaving it on for 4 hours a day. im also using a dermaroller. i hope i can stay at NW3 for a decade or so.
longer, greasier, thinner
Baldness honestly terrifies me. I think anyone who says they aren't afraid of being bald hasn't really given the idea much thought.
They say people die twice. Once when they die, and once more when their name is spoken for the very last time. I'd argue the first death a man can go through is when he goes bald.
Your hair is a physical expression of your personality, your youth and your vigor. The idea of looking at one of the very few and exclusive parts of you that is exposed and shown to the world on a daily basis rot away slowly leaving you a shadow of your former self causes my blood pressure to rise in fear. In the eyes of women, bald men are all but invisible. If pressed, they will tell comforting lies about how being bald is not an issue, but they will laugh at bald men behind their back.
>I don't mind your bald head
>It makes you look more manly
>I think it's distinguishing
>My ex boyfriend was bald!
Bald people are disgusted by women. To be perfectly honest, bald people illicit disgust in me too. I can't even look them in the eye because I'm hyperfocused on their receding hairline, their transparent scalp hair, the way their greasy forehead is coated in a layer of stinky grease.
I think all bald men know this deep down. They have been relegated to background characters in the game of life. They look on people with hair with envious eyes and find places in threads like this, like crabs in a bucket pulling people with the time and resources to save their hair back down to their level. They are driven on a primal genetic level to not let other men succeed where they have failed. Everyone must be as ugly and rotten as they appear.
It truly frightens me IST. Where some see men without hair, I see dead men walking, left on this earth to suffer.
You need to chill lol. Women's sexuality works on daddy issues, so some of them find baldness really hot. Some of them find it disgusting. Never listen to anyone who lumps all women together into some monstrosity. They're individuals, you know?
But yeah at first going bald destroyed me, but only because I had long hair most of my life. I don't see why it would affect someone who kept their hair short anyway.
>some of them find baldness really hot.
Absolute copium. NO women find baldness hot.
post hairline
Fucking kek. I got a buzzcut with full head of hair and I still look good. Hair only matters for ugly, no chin motherfuckers who got nothing else. If that's the case for you, yeah I think you should hop on those pills.
buzzcut only looks good with a decent hairline thoughever
damn bro just hair transplant or wear a wig
>hair transplant
You have to take finasteride to maintain it. That was the clincher for me to just start fin before my hair reached a level like that.
>wear a wig
Awful. I'd hate being a fake like that, even with these advanced hair systems they have these days. There's actually a guy that works in my local pharmacy and he wears an obvious wig. I'm not a dick but I'm so tempted to casually ask him how much it cost him just to see his reaction lmao. Too bad I'm not a dick 'cause that would be funny af. Who knows he might try to shoot me though.
>You have to take finasteride to maintain it
This is what literally everyone who says just get a hair transplant says. Eventually they all break.
I genuinely think the people who rail against fin are low key evil. Millions of men are on fin and don't say anything about it. They find the most vulnerable people on the internet and bully people out of saving their hair with epithets about trannies and being a real man.
Saying being bald is fine and you should go bald too is no different to fat people saying being fat is okay. Granted you won't die of being bald, but you're as
said, you're already dead anyway
>I genuinely think the people who rail against fin are low key evil. Millions of men are on fin and don't say anything about it.
cool well I did it and ended up with a permanent anxiety disorder from it
finasteride is pure garden gnome poison. look up the studies on dna methylation and how it fucks with the sex receptors in your brain. capable of permanently killing your sex drive.
i've never been the same. fuck finasteride.
anybody thinking about it should just go bald or get a transplant. hair cloning and a cure for this shit is far too close to risk rolling the dice on garden gnome poison
Finasteride blocks DHT (by design)
How is that ever going to be a good solution? You just think your body will never need DHT again?
But it doesn't block all DHT. Not by a long shot.
Who tf cares, you seemed like you were crying writing this.
>Bald people are disgusted by women.
Based chrome domes
Holy shit please dear jesus let me never go bald FUCK I WANTED TO DO STEROIDS BUT THIS SHIT KEEPS ME FROM WANTING TO DO THEM
just glue a wig to your head
Anyone who disagrees with this is in denial or coping hard. I've seen it first hand, I had a close female friend in university and was sometimes with her in her female friend group, what a red pill it was to hear girls openly talking how they would normally talk to each other by themselves. One of the most shocking things to me was all of them laughing at her bald ex boyfriend, making fun of his baldness in the most demeaning way and calling him ugly even though his face wasn't even ugly at all. From that point on I knew I was never going to let myself go bald.
You are coping with being a feminine gay, gossiping with girls
You're the coping by not realising how brutal woman are.
lel buddy I've had lots of female friends and the #1 thing I've learned is that what they say, and what they do, have zero correlation. Frrom my experience, when women shit on guys, it's because they are insecure about that very thing and are projecting. If they are doing it in a group, they are saying it to try to fit in. You would not fucking BELIEVE the shit women would tell me, and then go and do that very thing they were just bitching about. Including men. Had a girl go on and on to me about this one guy in her class who's a weirdo and creepy and is always making faces at her and she hates it. Few months later, oh look, she fucked him.
Seriously, stop listening to what women say. It's COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Only care about what they do.
Okay. Women don't fuck bald dudes given the option.
Glad we cleared that up.
Wrong, incel. Women don’t fuck ugly dudes who post on IST
i am an ugly bald white manlet with a receding chin and i have a gf and a big dick
lmao. Little beta orbiter got frustrated because her girl friends said something about bald people. Meanwhile the bald dude just went and fucked those bitches and left with absolutely no care in the world. Never trust a woman's word; it's her actions which display what kind of girl he really is. Also stop giving a fuck about what those bitches think
>worrying about and deriving self-worth based on what women think
so nu-IST is openly omega, on the same level as onlyfans simps, now? I don't think it's possible to sink any lower
I think there's an argument to be made that basing your self image off of being aloof about your appearance is also extremely vain
Like the other poster said, what women say and what they really do and think are different things. In your case you have to view it as emotional support in a group setting for the girl coping with the loss of her relationship. Also there's group pressure, just like guys who might be shy to admit their preference for say, slampigs in front of the guys.
So just chill out and don't be such a fatalist gay.
I've noticed bald people have this weird sad resigned look in their eyes, it's creepy. You can actually see it in those "shaving my head for the first time" videos where it's like their soul is literally leaving their body.
Sometimes I go to Reddit and look at the first page of r/bald just to see what you described.
Truly disturbing imagery
he'd look like a fucking goober with or without hair
Honestly, this is what I feel like happens and this is what I fear for myself. That stage where you give up, shave what's left, you go to the point of no return. It must be a horrifying feeling.
Just had a look
>pic related
"Went bald young but I'm completely comfortable with it" LMAO
Tim Pool is an NPC, he would've ended up the same hair or no hair
lol it's not him, it's a random redditor
they hate him because he spoke the truth
Your obsession with your appearance is a sign that you are in a decaying society. Men aren't supposed to be bitches like this.
Imagine giving a fuck about what you're "supposed to be" and not what you want to be.
In the context of replying to my post, you'd be saying you want to be a bitch? Sounds good.
The only one here saying that taking care of your appearance is making you a bitch is you. I hope I never have to smell you in real life.
>Bald people are disgusted by women.
Yeah women are pretty fucking disgusting tbtbh you got that right.
imagine having existentialist crisis over fucking hair, must be a chud
My dude, if you went bald and didn't catch it in time, that's on you. Being bald is just as devastating to aesthetics as being obese or a manlet. People rightfully care about their hair. Just because you've deluded yourself into being okay with your situation doesn't mean anyone else is.
>ahhh secondary male sex characteristics scare me, its like my chud soul is RIPPED from my body no longer being able to larp as a woman
nobody cares you were born a male, deal with being a male.
>Nobody cares you were born a male
You're right. Part of being a male is understanding your inherent value is 0 and another part of being male is fighting for every thing that makes you valuable tooth and nail. Hair include.
poh poor you baby, very oppressed, take chud drugs that will fix everything.
Thank god you're bald otherwise your brain would overheat from seething.
ACKIO
These trannies, are they in the room with us now?
You would know satan
I didn't think anything of bald guys when I saw them, didn't care at all, but that's cuz I'm a hetero dude. Then my hair loss started and I started seeing them as dysgenic chrome dome aliens and I hoped to god I wouldn't end up like one. Every time I see a guy with just a thinning scalp my stomach gets knotted a little bit. I really hope the fin works and my dick doesn't fall off, otherwise it's over.
Had no idea hair loss was so common. Shaved my head during covid for the hell of it and was absolutely horrified to see how it grew out. The length/thickness has been covering up seriously receding temples and a bald spot. I’d been getting expensive haircuts so they must have styled it in a way that it would be hard to notice. I had no idea. Did dermapenning and minoxidil and results have been good. Really pleased, actually. If it stops working I’ll go on fun
how do you NOT Notice that shit? Are you blind?
>my stomach gets knotted a little bit.
I bet it does fag boy.
>Hitler only died once
>Bald people are disgusted by women.
some women.
Women are not a monolith. Their sexual desires are more varied than a man's
There is so much variation in what women find hot it isn't even worth thinking about. You'll just go crazy worrying about it.
Just be healthy, try to look as best as you can with what you have and not worry about it too much
I worked a job that had a lot of young pretty girls employed. There were a couple points where they'd mention some dude, like a friend's dad or electrician at the business or whoever, and say he was a dilf. Almost all the guys they mentioned were completely bald or had the horseshoe thing going on.
On the other hand, I've seen really sad looking balding guys in bars desperately trying to stitch their remaining hairs into a pathetic combover.
If your only concern about going bald is that you'll become invisible to women then you should stop being a fag first
gay
My father was a six foot seven policeman and was norwood seven by his late twenties I think
Being bald was never something that got in his way lol
by the time im bald i'm gonna lose the little care i have left for what ppl think about me
that's what low test does to a motherfucker
>Bald people are disgusted by women
You could have a nice Benjamin Franklin look going there, I see no issue. Imagine looking like a jacked Benjamin Franklin.
The Dip-lomat
Nothing wrong with the Chad Embrace
It is funny how you always show them with this hair that make them look much worse instead of showing them being clean shaven.
>complains about a picture showing the chad embrace in a thread about the chad embrace
you are tripping
there's a massive difference having a shadow like this and being skin bald
Yup even if you don't care about hair at all a shadow still covers up how red and sick your scalp probably looks
Bottom right still looks good
If those guys actually had hair like that, their confidence would drop a lot and they would look meek and insecure. They look fine photoshopped because they have the demeanor of full hair still in their personalities.
crazy how much better they'd look with a shaved head, "reddit cope" fags are fucking retarded
>photo shop odd shaped heads and the most creepy way to style a balding head
See look how ugly these celebrities are if they were bald!!!
Top right is still hot.
indeed
Steven Ogg is one of the only dudes who can get away with that
baldness is a way to eject your dumb ass from the genepool if you weren't smart enough to marry and procreate when you were supposed to.
absolutely ruined levels of baldness won't typically happen until you're around mid 30s.
early to late 20s, when it would be reasonable for you to marry and breed, baldlets will typically have enough hair that people will not 100% consider them baldlets yet.
predetermined to go bald? just breed bro!
recessed jaw? just breed bro!
sub 100 iq? just breed bro!
vitiligo/other skin condition? just breed bro!
cerebral palsy? just breed bro!
5'2''? just breed bro!
etc.
I hate breeders like you so much. Maybe dysgenic shitters shouldn't have more disgusting abomination children? Maybe you don't curse children to the same fate just so you could satisfy your grug brain retardation?
Sir please be doing the dutiful and take the modaffodil with every meal in concentrations of 8cc per 100 pound
>compares balding to being a midget and cerebral palsy
nobody said that fintrannies are smart
Because it is comparable. Bald "people" are disgusting subhumans that should be forcibly sterilized for the improvement of human genetics.
>morons and garden gnomes are disgusting subhumans that should be forcibly sterilized for the improvement of human genetics
fixed it for you
>T. Self loathing hairlet
why are you such a fucking moron?
>Missing the point this hard
Way to miss the forest for the trees, retards. The point is that none of these traits should be passed on, because they're all negative traits that no one wants to have. Whether they're comparable is completely fucking irrelevent, you dipshits. How can people be this fucking stupid?
You fucking moron, you don't understand how genetics work. You may have something, but it may not be pronounced. Like my father and brother aren't balding at all, but I started balding in my early twenties.
Shut the fuck up with these bullshit, retarded statements, that make you yourself look like 70IQ mouth-breather.
what about your mother side of family ? this new generation is fucked btw
have a nice day. You’re balding because your grandpa couldn’t help but breed, and now your ugly ass is balding because of that. Don’t reproduce, mutt.
look at how much estrogen these guys have lmao
it's not normal to react this emotionally
surprised it's coming from a finaschud?
>baldness is a way to eject your dumb ass from the genepool if you weren't smart enough to marry and procreate when you were supposed to.
probably the most retarded thing said in this thread.
Balding is the male wall
Fin made me grow loads more hair, to the point that my wife whenever she plays with my hair comments on how much new growth there is.
I'm not saying its given me growth in places I never had it, my hairline has always been fucked. But I was losing it on the top as well and now its much thicker.
Zero evidence of side effects either.
I don't want my dick to stop working. I've had problems with it for a while and only now am I back to busting huge loads and getting a chub just from thinking of ass. I'm scared but my shit's getting worse so I have to make a choice.
>another dumbfuck that doesn't realise how much finasteride has feminised his brain
have you ever taken a few months off and observed how your behaviour changes?
>muh neurosteroids
Literally not active on the type 1 isozyme nor in the cerebral spinal fluid, mechanistically impossible cope harder norwood reaper gay
at this point keeping that just do more damage than just shaving that shit
>hairline recedes a bit
>go to a dermatologist
>ask for finasteride
>he doesn't give it to me
is it over? he presribed me some multi-vitamin with onions isoflavones and herb extracts
Just get it from minoxidilmax. They have better variety of options than anything you'll get from a pharmacy with a prescription anyway.
Call your doctor a retard and threaten to sue him for malpractice. Then find a new doctor m.
>suing a doctor for not giving you cosmetic chudpills
Biotin (Vitamin B7) supplements give some limited relief to thinning and receding hair.
Only bitches care about their hair. Shave it if it bothers you dumb motherfucker
but then I would skullmog everyone and they would hate me and fear me
Osama?
he actually looks better. his shitty beard actually looks decent with a shaved head
He looks Jim Wendler's handsome twin
Better than I thought he'd look tbh. Out of all of the guys in the original picture I thought Jake and Leo would be the least likely to pull off the bald look.
My body is a temple. I'm not going to pollute it with hormone blockers. Simple as.
it's over bro, time to become a monk
If you think about it deeply, male hair loss would be completely irrelevant if we just kept women like slaves.
in a perfect system women would be islam style house slaves picked by an all encompassing bureaucratic YET benevolent state thats sole goal is to slowly create a population of 10/10 by slowly making everyone beautiful(thus equal) using positive eugenics measures like putting a 3.5 with 5 so the children are 4’s and then marrying the 4’s with 5’s and so on
Guys take fin and stop creatine if you are balding,Im serious.
Turning 30 years old in 3 months, no signs of balding yet. Am I in the clear bros?
Never brother,you never know when will the curse strike.
Unironically yes, balding in your 30s is normal so you're essentially in the clear no matter when you start balding at this point. Us balding in our 20s bros are more oppressed than gamers.
Thanks anon. This post reduced my cortisol levels by 0.5%
Sorry bros but mine is finally thinning at 32
>tfw it finally started happening to me at 29
34 is where it started
NW1 to NW3 in a year. Glad i made it through my 20s but still..
>rekt
Gonna try rosemary essential oil and LLLT helmet before considering chemical castration.
>essential oil
Yes I know, do your research before having your sperg fit, proven to work just as well as rogai .
You were never meant to make it with that face.
Costanza, Tony Soprano and Frasier look great with the Chad embrace and would look worse shaved bald
save for transplant, it's that simple.
Am I balding, anons? Pls, be honest
Yes
Welcome to the club.
I cannot find the words to express just how much I hate you stupid ignorant troglodyte fucks
I've been taking fin for months, have ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO negative side effects, but you keto carnivore dickless permavirgin aspie sperglord fat retards keep convincing people not to even try 1 mg per day because they'd suppsedly grow bitch tits and have their peckers wilt forever by the end of the week
Fin sides are totally real though. You’re dick probably won’t shrivel up overnight but it definitely fucks with things and even brief usage can cause lingering problems
you are an uneducated retard who is so incredibly stupid and inbred that it is a wonder you can type with all the drool falling from your slackjawed fuckhole
you know nothing about anything and if you were to disappear right now the world would instantly become a better place for everyone (do it)
cope
he's right and the fact that you've displayed such emotion is a tacit indication of your acknowledgement. no one cares what you do. it's your body.
>it has not side effects
>has a meltdown on IST like a moron
way to prove yourself wrong there, pussy
my bro said his dick stopped working for about a year. Thankfully after stopping it came back.
looks better with the "balding" look imo but it's maybe because I'm just used to it so much
The chad embrace works if you were a chad to start. If you've got a weak incel bone structure you're fucked no matter what your hair looks like. Stop making these threads, it's a solved problem.
You guys need to go out more. Being bald just means you have to make up for it in other ways, depending on how you look. Is it fair that you gotta do more work than the average person, maybe not but that’s the way it goes.
That's a pic from IST from 2020
NON STOP ASS RAPE
I started shaving my scalp back in high school, purely by choice and went like that for most of my adult life.
Even then, over 30 at time, finding out that all I can grow now is male pattern baldness sucked.
I got some oral minoxodil pills on the way. The new revived research looks promising.
You're not concerned about the possibility of pericardial effusion?
Not him but low dose minoxidil is safe and effective.
>safe and effective
why do people say min doesn't stop hair loss but fin does when min seems better than fin?
In just thickens the hair that is already there. It literally makes each follicle fatter.
well doesnt that stop hair loss?
**and whats the difference with what fin does to hair follicles?
***and what does dermarolling do?
can you just dermaroll without taking fin/min and will that stop hair loss/grow hair?
Your hair follicle is dying due to DHT sensitivity. Fin reduces the amount of DHT on the scalp in turn stopping this process.
Min from what I understand speeds up and lengthens the growth cycle of hairs on the scalp. It doesn't address the root issue and eventually the hair loss will continue.
I think derma rolling encourages the growth of new hair too. It supposedly improves the effects of minoxidil immensely.
Check out HairCafe or Hair Loss Show on YouTube. Both channels provide a lot of info and will give better explanation than me. Kevin is a bit abrasive but I think he's just trying to get people to act before it's too late.
Hope this helps
When fin came out and showed decent results it was a very big deal. People latched on to the idea that hair loss was caused by DHT and unless you were blocking DHT you were fucked. Min doesn't block DHT and it was deemed inferior. People started saying that min was just a growth stimulant and didn't really protect your hair or grow back any new hair.
Of course that's bullshit and flies in the face of everything we had learned about min. Don't underestimate the power of a small group of uniformed retards screeching at a bunch of cowardly, gullible betas. See IST for example.
how the FUCK is there not a cure to balding yet????????
women get 5 trillion youth serums and we get jack shit
The garden gnomes don't want you to be attractive and healthy.
It's called starting finasteride early, it's not rocket science anon. Not being pro-active is literally all on you.
i've always had a high hairline and a big fucking head, plus a widows peak. it's concerning because i don't know if i'd be able to recognize when i started losing hair. does it just come out in clumps in the shower like in a fucking horror movie, or do you just wake up one day and you suddenly realize that you've slowly become a bald man?
Look at your hands after you shampoo. You will see some hairs. If/when you are balding, there will be more of them. A diffuse thinner with recession might just see twice as many as normal. Heavy shedders will see a lot of hair, totally covering their hands. They can also brush or shake their over the sink and see profuse hair fall. This level of shedding is also often accompanied by a distinct itch.
Man…I had this happen last year. I had thiccc and curly hair and all the sudden I could fill my sink with hair that I could rub off and my scalp was soo itchy…after a few months I could see the crown of my head in light. I was so depressed bros…after so much deliberation with myself I got on finastride and that seems to help. I’m maintaining what I have and see some thickness in the crown again.
Wgmi
i don't know if it's relevant at all, but in like my second year of college, i started noticing fuckloads of hair coming out. like i'd wake up and there would be more than just a couple hairs on my pillow, and i'd pull out fingerfuls in the shower.
i started taking a multivitamin and it totally fixed it. i think it was just that my diet was really trash at that point in time. may not be relevant to actual balding, but i still take a multivitamin because it's super cheap, and i figure it covers me from any fuckups in my diet.
Vitamins probably wouldn’t have solved my issue…my dad went bald in his early 30s and I looked at old photos of him and I see a similar pattern of hair loss…then I went to a derma to get lab tests and they said my body was producing to much DHT, I probably get that from my dad as well….he has prostate issues which is commonly caused by to much dht. I have gotten any of the fin sides
yeah almost certainly not. and i wouldn't say you should take vitamins and not take finasteride if you've got hormonal balding. but b vitamins are important for your hair and nails. wishing you luck, my man. it's fucked that some people have to go through that.
Thanks fren, have a good weekend
Bro you have an intact hairline
>see my crown
Everybody has visible cowlick where you could see a little bit of skin
Nah dude definitely thinning on the crown and top sides, fin has seem to stabilized it though.
Thank god you got on fin when you did, how long you been on it? There's a very good chance it will completely recover
Thanks man. Almost a month now. Don’t see any more shedding so that’s a relief
>Don’t see any more shedding so that’s a relief
You're gonna. Don't freak out when it happens. After 2-3 months on fin, you're gonna start to shed like crazy, even more than before you started. This is normal and shows that the drug works. It's gonna stop after 1-1.5 months.
>T. not a dermatologist
>profuse hair
That’s body hair
> Look at your hands after you shampoo. You will see some hairs. If/when you are balding, there will be more of them
Yeah but how much more?
I always have shed hairs when I wash my hair.
I thought the first sign of balding was to see hair on your pillow after waking up.
This is me. Even the horrible itch. Where did you learn of this? Not everybody knows about the itch and/ or this type of MPB. If you get back on, @ me with reading material if you have any
>2yrs on fin, 1mg daily
>kirkland min once or twice a day
>nizoral on Wed night and Sat night
>dermastamp every week Sat night
Maintained, some improvement esp on the crown, but hairline still btfo and the itch is still present. The itch alone just makes me want to go full-blown eunuch. As if MPB wasnt bad enough i have to get the itch too
>Where did you learn of this?
>@ me with reading material if you have any
Sorry, but I don't have any extra tips on the itch. I just wanted to aware people about it. I learned about it from reading hair loss and bodybuilding forums for a while, even before I had issues.
I'm a diffuse thinner myself and my hair loss started after upping my dose on TRT. I'm off TRT now and microneedling once per week (don't tolerate min or 5ar inhibitors). My hair loss has stopped and there is small, slow regrowth.
Why would you take TRT if you know you're prone to hair loss?
Not him, but I'd imagine many people require TRT for things beyond lifting weights.
>Why would you take TRT if you know you're prone to hair loss?
I didn't have MPB until I was on TRT. The shedding also didn't start until I increased the dose >200mg/week. At my initial lower dose of 100mg/week my hair actually grew a little faster, maybe from higher estrogen and/or IGF1. However, I didn't really feel much better energy and depression wise unless I was at 150mg+/week, where I would shed.
Basically, I found out the hard way my hair loss is mostly threshold dependent. I have read similar anecdotes on TRT and steroid forums. Bros, even in their 30s, are NW1 until they start pinning and then their hairline starts melting.
If there's a ton of itching it's usually a fungal issue. It started happening to me during winters when it would get too dry, I got hella itchy and shredded ton of hair in the shower. Stopping fungal growth with nizarol was the only thing that worked for me, no itchyness or shedding anymore.
I stopped using shampoo when I was a teenager because I thought it was a gnomish conspiracy
I have a lot of hair on my hands in the shower from time to time, it's been like this for years. I also can find hair in my brush, my hands after running through my hair. I can find them here and there in my appartment. But my hairline hasn't changed. Got nervous several times after reading comments like this though.
Is it just me or is cavill more attractive bald?
he gets even more masculine and powerful looking while sacrificing some youth and pretty boyness. Having like a 1-3mm stubble on the head would look even better
you're right, he does look more powerful, huh
>is cavill more attractive bald?
No. His eye area, though very good looking, is too soft for a shaved head. He still manages to look pretty good because of his basically perfect bone structure.
Travolta on the other hand, looks much better since he ditched the hair pieces.
You're gay.
*And that's okay.
He still looks good bald or balding. This one is real no photoshop.
Looking at old pictures of yourself vs actual ones will work
same here, luckily I have a small birthmark on my right temple so I can judge the distance of my hairline from it
at that point just shave it off
It's honestly hilarious reading through these threads. I don't know which ones i prefer, the manlet or the baldfag despairposts. I'm not affected by either of these issues and they seem so completely trivial to me that reading the essays and seeing these retarded edits is like walking into a bizzaro world
>DUDE I GOTTA DO DA CHAD EMBRACE LET ME TOOL AROUND IN THE AEROSTAR IN THE PARKING LOT
>DUDE YOU CANT SHAVE IT YOU GOTTA HOP ON FINODIXASUCKATOMOL AND TAIWAENESE BATH HALENOX 6000 TO KEEP THOSE 5 STRANDS OF HAIR YOU GOT LEFT
It's ridiculous. I'm here with a full head of hair not really giving it much thought because it hasnt given anything to me in my life and i see these boomer freakshows going on a tirade about how their life is over because their hairline is receding. It's just so fucking stupid that i can't even begin wrapping my head around it. Like, really. Can you imagine some Roman 2250 years ago giving a flying fuck about his hairline, MUCH LESS have a mental breakdown over it? No. Because he was a fucking man. This is some post-modern culture of narccisism type bullshit, where vanity is commonplace even for males and when everyone is tainted by neolibtardism to such a degree that they feel that everything in life is a competitive marketplace and they need to maximize their points or some shit.
Bald men were forbidden from entering the roman bathhouses as it was believed balding was contagious. That means no gay bathhouse sex, so balding was the same as being dead in Rome.
I have a full head of hair too and
1. just gloating would have been enough. Why the fuck are you doing "dude embrace le masculininty romans vanity etc" when you aren't balding yourself? You don't know what it's like
2. It'll happen to you
>hair changes after just 3 weeks
It's over bros
? it looks fine
that's a lot of hair growth for just three weeks
The first pics of each row look like gorilla balls
I'd rather be bald than an Asian male, being 100% honest. You being bald makes like 0.2% difference in your attractiveness, no offence.
either ive got a bald spot or air drying my hair causes the hair at my crown to make for really big parts, anyone have a similar experience?
why is balding even a thing
what evolutionary purpose does it serve?
Proof of god because only a sentient higher being could contrive such a cruel joke.
it's not negative because you would have already reproduced before you went bald. so even if being bald negatively impacts your ability to reproduce, it happens after you've spread your genes.
it's probably a consequence of increasing amounts of DHT, and generating more secondary sex characteristics, which would improve reproductive fitness.
DHT has 0 use past maturation anon
lets you keep a cool head under pressure, while women spazz out like hotheads
There are a couple of moronic theories I've heard. One is it might be to help with vitamin D absorption from the sun. Seriously doubt full headed dudes died before being able to reproduce because of lack of vit D and being bald fixed that. Although IST memes that Europeans have higher rates of baldness so eh.
Another theory is bald men are less likely to abandon their partner/kids for some sexy young harlots since they're no longer as attractive to them, so they stay with their families and their kids survive. This actually does make sense to a degree but it's still stupid.
Bottom line, for whatever reason a strange mutation happened where some males' hair follicles became sensitive to DHT and they end up balding. Sure it sucks but most still manage to cum inside women and pass on their genes so it just wasn't something that nature selected against en-masse which is why you get so many bald motherfuckers. Over 50% of men have significant hair loss by the age of 60.
This is the only guy I've ever seen on IST who has a correct basic understanding of evolution.
Because Darwinism is bullshit and traits are passed on for many more reasons than "muh evolving into a more fit being".
Uhm... about how many hairs is normal to lose per shower (which i do once a day)?
Counting hairs is a fools errand and everyone is a little different. What you should be looking for is unusually thin or short hairs falling out.
>unusually thin or short hairs falling out
That... actually makes a lot of sense. I havent been paying a lot of attention to the length but I think they've mostly been on the longer side. My hair however is naturally thin, would I still be able to differentiate?
Some days I barely have any on my hand and some days theres a small collection of it on the drain.
Im just super stressed about it because Im growing my hair out and will be incredibly depressed if I cant do that. I know longer hair is a lot easier to spot when falling out than shorter hair but the thought of balding ever sits in the back of my brain.
I don't know you're exact situation but the long and short of it is that hair doesn't just fall out and never grow back. It grows back thinner and shorter each time until it can't even break out of the skin leaving you bald. Everyone has a few miniaturized hairs on their head, even women. You should worry when the hairs start looking more like spider webs than hair.
as long as they are single strands you're fine, when you start seeing super dark 'strands,' it means you just lost a clump of strands right next to each other in which you should worry now
Anyone tried eating gelatin? My female friend has pretty thick hair and she says she makes sure to eat Jello every day because of the gelatin and how it makes her hair&nails healthy.
Could be something there...we don't really get much gelatin in our diet as we used to since most people just eat muscle meats.
easier to take a collagen supplement
I'd rather just get it through dietary means tbh. Bowl of jello a day sounds pretty good.
82 days of Finasteride (22 November, 2022 - 8 February, 2023). Is it working bros? I take 1mg every other day.
Looks like it is but your photos are very dark.
There's actually a light shining right behind my head on the wall. But yeah it's not a great webcam.
no min? I though fin retains your hair and min grows back what youve lost
no min. fin works especially well for diffuse thinners if the hair loss is caught early.
>caught early
by this I mean the thinning is not yet so bad. My hair loss has been very slow. I probably started thinning ten years ago but it only recently got slightly noticeable (how it is in the pic). I'm 36 btw. Fin is generally just to maintain but it can cause miniaturised hairs to grow back thicker, which is why it's great for diffuse thinners. There are better results than mine. I've seen pics of far thinner skulls with significant regrowth, apparently only from fin. Obviously if you're a slaphead fin alone won't do shit for you. I've also seen results on r/tressless where NW7 slapheads get full heads of hair back from fin + min + dermarolling but I've no idea how commonly that happens.
Hair to a degree needs constant DHT exposure to maintain its miniaturized state. Assuming you catch it early enough it will just grow back like normal.
>chud keyboard
That's not embracing being bald, that's clinging to a lost image. He should shave it all off and go Mr. Clean mode. If you're not some DYEL little pussy people will respect you.
>That's not embracing being bald, that's clinging to a lost image
Yeah but that's basically what the le chad embrace meme picture recommends kek.
why do i come to this awful website
why cant i leave
it does me zero favours
The balding man prayed to God. "Please god, save my hairline, I am so young. I have so much more of my life to enjoy."
The next day, the balding man saw an add for a derma roller in on the his news feed.
"Heh, no way people actually use that. I'll just rub some coconuts juice on my temples."
Later that night, the balding man kneeled down against his bed and clasped his hands on prayer. "Oh lord, can you hear me? I pray to you daily but my hear keeps thinning. I trust in your power lord."
The next day the balding man went to Costco to buy his 50 pack bag of string cheese from the dairy aisle. On the way to the counter he saw a poster to buy Kirkland Brand Minoxidil from the in store pharmacy for a reasonable price. "Eww, I heard that Minoxidil makes your scalp greasy and causes even more shedding. I'll just eat more b vitamins and hair meditations to save my hair."
That night the balding man did his usual prayers. "Dear god in heaven, I know you work in mysterious ways, but no voodoo rituals or coconut smoothies or red lasers are helping my failing follicles. I pray you will do something soon before it's too late."
The next day the balding man went on IST he wanted to learn more about building his pecs and getting that Jason Statham look. He saw a thread regarding baldness and clicked on it in curiousity "What?! FINASTERIDE? a literal chud used that once to restore their hair therefore everyone who uses it is a chud. I will just use caffeine shampoo to boost my bangs into submission".
Continued
The weeks went on and the balding man eventually became bald. The years went by and nothing could stop the legendary retreat of his hideous hairlines. Every Halloween costume become one punch man, every haircut became "just shave it off". Needless to say, he got zero poon. The years went by but none of his coping treatments worked. Finally he crawled into bed for the last time. Old and alone and died in his sleep.
When he arrived in heaven he spoke to God.
"Oh god, why didn't you save me from going bald? I loved a life of hardship because of your refusal to do anything"
God responded to the bald man (he was bald in heaven too lol).
"My child, I sent you the derma roller and you dismissed it"
The bald man protested.
"How could it possibly work?"
God ran his fingers through his thick locks of hair. " It seems to work for me. I also sent you the Kirkland Brand Minoxidil at a reasonable price."
The bald man rebutted.
"Minoxidil dries out your skin and ages you."
"No my child, aging ages you, Minoxidil is proven to increase blood flow to the scalp and increase hair density." God indicated to his locks.
"Finally, I sent you Finasteride and you rebuked it entirely."
The bald man was now red as a tomato. He looked like one too because bald people when they're angry look like tomatos.
"But God! Trannies use Finasteride. I am not a chud."
"My child, Finasteride will not turn you into a chud, the copious amounts of estrogen they are consuming will. Finasteride is strictly for hair and prostate health in older men."
The bald man looked dejected. "but why am I bald in heaven?"
"Lol lmao"
jej
>Even God suffers from alopecia
kek, it's truly over.
Fucking amazing, giggling like a bitch here heh
>even God has to use Min
Norwood Reaper confirmed most powerful deity
bravo
ive done a #1 buzz ever since the chink flu lockdowns + noticing i was thinning at my crown. maybe ill grow it out again with minoxidil, but i honestly dont care.
There will be a cure in five years. Twist1 and HMI-115 will solve baldness.
>cure in five years
this is the baldbros' equivalent meme to 4chan's '2 weeks' meme
This whole dialog about the meds being poison is so useless and point blank retarded
This is pure cope
Poeple search online about comments of people with bad effects and never mind getting a full picture
Those obese motherfuckers that eat ifood delivery everyday and cant cook, cant lift shit, play vidya everyday
Yes, the dick dies
Finasteride change you, you will notice it for sure
Belive.me, you will notice it
But if you experience existence as a high level primate is suposed to do as we are right know at the evolutiom stage, what i mean by this is that you must use your body as it was evolved to be used, tear fibers, punish it, make effort
If you do it, your dick will turn on and get hard by its own when you see naked woman (misterious effect)
Only thing that changes is the cum.. it will be a lot more prostate fuids.and.way less spermatozoids.
It is more volume, less white.
I came out the point where I looked like tje Beetle Juice taking pics with wet hair at beach to a full and thick crown of thin follicles app over my head
I have thin follicles, not curled ones and it is way harder to hide
This gene comes from your mother!!!! Look you mother father for clues.
Try it you stupid retarded. You dont even use your dick, incel larper.
Coper, useless piece of meat roamming the earth
Die!
I wish you are in reach so I could beat the soul out you body for u being suck a pussy for all this time!
Dead roots cant me recovered! God damn! I need.to kill.someting living
>Die!
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>this gene comes from your mother!!!! Look you mother father for clues.
This gene can come from literally anybody in your family, you can get it from your father, mother, any of your grandparents, great grandparents, whatever. The idea that it comes from your mother is a misunderstanding of the fact that women can have DHT sensitivity, and pass it on, while not presenting with male pattern baldness themselves because they do not have sufficient androgens in their body.
>This gene
It's not one gene. There are many genes that take part in determining balding, that's why you get an array of balding patterns and aggressiveness.
Diffuse thinning is rare right? My dad got diffuse thinning but he’s the only person in my family who went bald.
what about gyno from finasteride ? that's what stopped me from using it
Are you not able to see side effects happening? You don't just grow boobs overnight. It would take months of ignoring sides to get gyno and that side effect is even more rare than ED, which is already uncommon. Most people usually just get watery cum or ball aching which doesn't last forever.
A lot of people myself included get nipple / chest pain at first but don't develop gyno
>nipple / chest pain
>more puffy looking
uhhh... this is hot... i need to start finasteride
no but more like feel them sensitive nipples and an itch also they looked different more puffy looking, i didn't get ed or any of the other side effects you said maybe ball aching in my first dose, i already got gyno tbh didn't want to wait months for it to develop it seems even 0.25 mg causes side effects, maybe i'll try topical or some other way to get around it
Do you have gyno or like 98% of guys that say this they actually just fat?
Unless you have a flat stomach with at least the beginnings of abs your chest fat is just that fat.
my stomach is fat as fuck but my chest is flat. You would have to be a disgusting pig to have both fat stomach and fat tits at the same time.
So you dont work out your chest at all? You will have fat around you entire body until like 15% body fat.
no i didn't get gyno from fin i already have gyno even though i'm skinny ever since puberty, i only got puffy nipples and sensations around my chest
>be me
>take fin for a year
>make noticeable and very welcome hair gains
>see zero negative side effects
>be happy
meanwhile you brainlets shake with fear and spread misinformation, while we all know that the milisecond you notice your hairline receding you will bankrupt yourselves from buying every microneedler, dht suppressant for horses and snake oil under the sun
goes double for everyone who bought into the "just shave it bro" meme, shaved it bro, and found that they absolutely don't look anything like the rock/vin diesel/jason statham and instead look like a basedlet, feel a constant weird cold and can't pull your tshirt over your head because your scalp is like sandpaper 10 hrs after shaving
just stop being a crybaby, take 1 mg of fin per day, wait for the shedding to pass and admire your normal-looking hair by the end of the year
finasteride did not effect me much aside from some ball ache and it stopped my hairloss. Libido stayed the same.
permanent ball ache?
Ball aching usually doesn't last very long.
just shave it fr
I have norwood 2.5-3
I use these tips on a daily basis and literally every single person in my life either asked me if I got an implant or audibly congratulated me for my success
>minox every night
>dont wash hair with anything if I wanna have thick hair for the next 3 days
>dont wear a hat or anything
just minox, take vitamins, eat good, work out and dont shampoo your hair. natural oil that forms after 3 days looks fantastic.
also, make peace with going bald at some point, makes life easier
anyone tried onion juice+scalp massaging?
see anything?
This is my routine as someone who has a bald dad but isn't going bald for now. I also take biotin, collagen, and D3 vitamins. Microneedling is for acne scars since I don't really have that much hair loss.
checkked where da weed at bro ? add k2 and magnesium supps for calcfication and vit d absorbtion and more oils like rosemary
like peppermint oil i meant lol
You're the bald one here
Used minox for 6 months, barely any progress made on the temples but had more hairs on the top of my scalp. Started Finasteride a month and now my hairs are coming on my temples
It’s that easy bros
I mean at a certain Norwood you have no choice but to shave that shit and embrace
This is true, but it's hard to justify letting it get to that point with everything available.
Norwood 3.5 here, crown is starting to thin. I'm at a poin i can still fill up the crown and potentially get a transplant to fix the hairline.
Everything beyond 4 is death
Balding is not natural. Yes there are genes that increase the likelihood of balding, but studies show that with every generation the amount of balding young men increase steadily. It's something in our diets and every lifestyle that worsens it's effects.
it's probably mercury poisoning from the vaccines
Is minoxodil useless without dermarolling?
>Is minoxodil useless without dermarolling?
No. Minox and microneedling (pens are much better than rollers btw) are both growth promoters. They work through different pathways and you can use both. Microneedling has generally displaced keto shampoo as the third part of "the big three" hair loss prevention tools (the other two being fin/dut and minox).
Also, shallow microneedling (0.5mm) and retinoids have both been shown to enhance minox penetration and effectiveness.
It's a sustained increase in the amount of shedding that matters more than the absolute quantity.
He reminds me of Johann Liebert
Uhhh
you were supposed to take finasteride BEFORE you went bald bro
Ah yes the eternal finasteride thread. Why is IST engaged in an endless war over this drug? If you wanna use it to save your hair then do so, if you don't, then don't lmao. Why do people get so mad over this? Love these threads btw, they're too much fucking fun tbh.
I've been on fin for 27 months now, I feel like in the last 6 months I've started losing hair again but it might just be in my head (kek). Is this usual? I'm pretty sure I'm a diffuse thinner. The hair all over my head is not as thick as it used to be and the amount of recession is very minor for how long I went without fin (about 3 years when I first suspected hair loss).
Before I started fin, I was seeing 100-200 hairs in the shower. after being on fin for a while, that dropped to about 20-50. That hasn't changed much but my hair seems to be looking worse (not as thick) each time I get a hair cut. Also worth noting that in the first 1-2 years of using fin my hair would get dry like straw and itchy, but this doesn't happen anymore.
Is it worth switching to dutasteride or will that just stop working too? I don't want to use minoxidil.
Did you notice any mental issues? Finasteride completely halts the production of neurosteroids too that's why.
Which headshape tanks baldness better? Which worse?
so really this thread is essentially about preventing hair loss, is that correct? If the hair is already lost safe to assume it's over?
>If the hair is already lost safe to assume it's over?
No, some men are able to reverse miniaturization and regain their hair.
Depends. If it's completely bald as in there no tiny hairs to be found it's gone, but sometimes people are just in time.
So I should give up on a receding hairline?
How common is diffuse thinning?
I was gonna say guys like this could at least adopt a better skincare routine, but even FaceApp struggled with this one.
Big pharma reposting this swine every few days to shill their pills and creams that will destroy you. Feel bad for the losers that actually take fin.
i have a full head of hair and you're a balding chud. Why are you so upset?
>dr phil was balding in college
>both of dr phil's sons have hair in their 40's
how is this possible?
They are on finasteride.
Is it normal to see your scalp under light if your hair is like 1-2 inches long?
0.25mg a day enough?
My tinnitus became really bad after 18 months on finasteride. I got mood problems too. Yesterday I looked it up and finasteride also completely blocks some vital neurosteroids involved in mental processes and hearing. Not sure how to proceed.
Rule #1 of the hair loss thread: the answer to your stupid question is yes, you are 100% balding
Get on fin+min regardless of what you see. You’ll see something one day and it’ll be already too late
What about the side effects of finasteride?
Just want to say it again. By far the most useful thing I learned from this place was dermapen+minoxidil. I was headed toward a Norwood 3 with a bald spot and I’m essentially a Norwood 1 on one side even short now and a Norwood 2 on the other that’s covered up when my hair is longer. Bald spot was hardest to fix but even that had slow but steady progress and is covered up when my hair is 2 inches or longer. About as close to a miracle cure as I could have hoped for
What depth of needles do you use?
They say not to do this and maybe it’s a bad idea but my skin is thick so I used 2.5. Forgot to mention I was able to shave my head because of covid which I think helped significantly
The suppression of DHT messes with your GABA channels!
You what would really mess with someone's GABA channels? Being a bald loser who is despised by women and mocked by his peers for being bald.
I’m a woman and I left the last man who tried to be my bf. He was bald by choice and had attractive features until his hair started to grow and I realized his true hairline. I couldn’t imagine my children having these shit genes inside so I just leave him.
If you’re a man and you’re balding, I hate you. You’re a disgrace and you shouldn’t reproduce.
>Pic related it's me
boy these finchud marketers are really desperate, must be the monthly quota is off or something.
My derm says my hair is fine. Should I trust her?
No. Trust your own senses.
Has anyone been on fin long-term? I'm at 6 years now. I started at age 30 when I had some receding of the hairline without loss on the crown. I've had some minor side effects, but after my initial shed and regrowth my hair loss has been completely paused. I was worried about having kids, but easily conceived 2 healthy boys. Overall, I'm very glad I started it.
you didnt take a break from fin to conceive?
btw i've heard some people take two weeks or a month off from fin every 6 months, do u do that? why do some ppl do this?
>you didnt take a break from fin to conceive?
Nah. I planned on stopping if we had trouble, but my wife got pregnant after 2-3 months. With our 2nd son she pulled the IUD and we got it first try thankfully.
>btw i've heard some people take two weeks or a month off from fin every 6 months, do u do that? why do some ppl do this?
I'm not sure about that. Maybe because of side-effects?
what side effects u had bro
WHAT SIDE EFFECTS
There are a lot of reported side effects with Finasteride, the only issue is there is a huge overlap of these symptoms and anxiety in general and they only seem to manifest in people who have heard of the side effects in the first place.
I think the only real side effect that is verifiable is watery ejaculations, which makes sense because it was originally a drug designed to medicate enlarged prostates.
Bros, does minoxidil cause flaking as side effects?
bros im a NW3 right now. ive just been buzzing it and applying rosemary oil and leaving it on for 4 hours a day. im also using a dermaroller. i hope i can stay at NW3 for a decade or so.