>Turns you into a sociopath by blunting emotions
heh nothin personal
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>Blunting emotions
>testosterone forces you to take the actions necessary to become the ideal you
The absolute state of zoomer incel glowBlack folk
Placebo effect. It doesn't blunt your emotions. Take your real meds.
Nope. It absolutely does
Did it to me before I knew this does it
So what does this shit actually do? Should I pick it up tomorrow?
>So what does this shit actually do? Should I pick it up tomorrow?
>If a supplement ever makes a noticeable difference in you then you don't eat enough real food
you are better off taking Tribulus which actually has more data backing up its performance details
Isn't that supposed to raise your testosterone? Won't that have a down regulating response, like with steroids, effectively making you dependent on tribulus for testosterone? Or does it not work that way since it's technically endogenous testosterone being produced by your body? Or do we even know at all?
It has been shown that testosterone raises in people taking it, but the mechanism there could be a combination of lower cortisol and better sleep being two natural test raisers.
However, you do have to cycle ashwa. You develop a resistance/tolerance over time that you then have to lose. Most people who take it long term do two months on one month off, or you can go smaller than that do one week on one off, two on one off, or whatever.
since most studies show results at 8 weeks are stronger than at 4 weeks, then probably 2months on one off is better
Interesting didn't know that. I tried it for a week and felt a little different, might see how a two month stint goes but I wanna ease onto it.
>cycle
Been using it almost daily for years
>It has been shown that testosterone raises in people taking it
Wait I thought that only happened to men taking it.
tribulus makes cooming feel real good
that is my only anecdote
It reduces cortisol response to stress. It's an adaptogen. Cortisol antagonizes testosterone, so the less cortisol you have the more testosterone your body can use
Raises test slightly, reduced stress symptoms.
Reduces stress/cortisol which creates a sense of calm, affects hormone production and GABA in the brain, has a mild SSRI like effect, reduction of cortisol in turn increases test production slightly at the expense of lower stress/reaction to changing emotional states
Is the effect immediate? Could increasing dosage be akin to drug use, and would that be dangerous?
No it has an onset period of a couple days - it's not like getting high or drunk, where you have a clear linear change of experience, you'll just get stressed less often. Honestly I cut it off and just did a bit more cardio and felt better than when I was ayurveda-maxing.
Nothing. It does absolutely nothing at all. Except fill the wallets of some smart African exporters.
>hey jamal what are we going to do with tons of this ahwaganda were having it with every meal
>i know anon is going to shill it to the people that take everyones word for granite on anything
I swear someone will shill hamster turd as "natural steroids" and some people are still going to buy in on it
If a supplement ever makes a noticeable difference in you then you don't eat enough real food
Source: butthole
t. goypill peddler
Ashwagandha works whether you like it or not
You don't fricking need it. But go ahead give the israelites your money.
>jews
Do you have any empathy? I'm israeli and my great grandpa was killed in a camp. I don't care about your anti-semitism, it's the fact that everyone here thinks that we're evil when the majority of us are trying to live our lives without this uncalled for hate.
> Muh camp.
Shut up, you caused soviet russia and thus invasion of poland which killed a lot of poles. Serves you damn right you dirty b***h. xD
Come on bro you can bait harder than that
post one piece of evidence not funded by an ashwagandha producing company
okay lets figure out who is selling ashwagandha
They look pretty white to me
>Maybe if I added israeli stuff on this meme it won't be about me anymore 🙁
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6979308/
There you go
>definition of supplement
>NO YOUR WRONG
Except whatever is in ashwagandha isn't found in food moron that's like saying LSD doesn't do anything if you eating properly
Not enough epa and dha? Eat salmon every meal
Source? Anon said it
Not really if you are having mental problems that can't be easily managed such as PTSD etc, ashwagandha helps in lowering cortisol production during an episode.
True. When I take this shit it just plummets the shit out of my cortisol. You may think this is a good thing but it severely affects not only fight or flight functions, but simple normal functions associated with cortisol like waking up in the morning after being well rested. I usually sleep 6-8 hours normally but on this shit I could sleep 10-12 hours on the day of my best friends funeral. It's unironically based as a war-time medication but anything social/relationship wise this shit will kill real quick.
My brother suffers from anxiety, you think this could help him?
>half light from disco elysium
Based game
Is this why I'm sleeping like 11 hours a day?
Oh so I should take more? I have a brain tumor that’s busting out chronically high ACTH and therefore cortisol.
Oh I'm sorry anon. Is it cancerous
not him, but wtf do you think?
This stuff "helped me" quit benzos but it might have just been placebo effect. It doesn't seem to have any effects except slightly reducing xanax craving
>Ashwagandha
ACK
hey glowBlack folk can you tell me avoid which other supplements will do harm to me?
I want to shop for more effective testo boosts
are you implying that its bad for your liver? because if so thats just completely made up bullshit.
It's not made up. It's hard science backed up with researched driven evidence
find me an example of a study saying good sourced KSM 66 being bad for your liver. if it just says some random NOW brand shit on Amazon was found to have toxic elements, thats not what im referring to
No, I'm going to do something if you tell me to
he told you to do it, so do it. That's what your post says.
*Shits pants for 218 seconds straight*
I took it for a week a couple weeks ago to try it out. It definitely did chill me out because I noticed I wasn't as much of a fricking ragemonster as normal, but I also kinda like raging.
Same for me. I'm normally walking around at an 11 at all times with violent thoughts and general wrath flowing in my veins thinking of bad shit people have done to me. I started taking Ashwa and that sort of dissolved, I just wasn't thinking violent thoughts that much anymore.
How much should I take and how and when
None, all the time.
I think this shit made my hair fall out even faster
Possible. If you're prone to hairloss then the uptick in testosterone from the reduction in cortisol could also convert to more DHT to frick your follicles harder.
But then if you're prone to hairloss why aren't you on fin to stop that DHT?
Was thinking about it but I heard it can break your dick But I don’t want to go bald either idk wtf to do
>it can break your dick
There's a 99% chance you get no side effects whatsoever, especially if you don't nocebo yourself over it. Most studies show the placebo group with the same or more ED cases. But you can always just stop taking it, or better yet take a lesser dosage that will likely still do the job. Most guys are taking 1mg a day which is way overkill when 0.5mg works as well.
I been on it since November and haven't had any problems related to it.
Thanks for the info and graph I’ll chat to my doc about it
This has made me finally decide to start taking fin since I've had the bottle for a month and still haven't started. I'm thinking because the pills are so fricking small just taking 1 pill every 3 days.
That'll likely work. Efficacy is a spectrum. Some dudes sadly are complete non-responders, other need that 1mg a day, some guys take 0.5mg MWF or EOD and are good. The effect 0.5mg has on you knocks your DHT down for about two days before it even begins to really rise again, so you could conceivably just take 0.5mg every other day and be good.
I was on 1.25mg every other day since November, but I took a month off to give blood. Now I'm taking 0.75mg every day instead just for consistency. I noticed I got two shedding phases, one about 1-2months after starting which was all these really thin, blond, wispy hairs getting combed out, but then a MASSIVE shed about 6months in where I had to unclog my shower drain 3 times and it was alarming, but that means it's working basically.
I have had questions over if it's affecting my dick, but then I'll bang a girl three times in an evening to morning span rock hard the whole time lasting an hour and think it's probably just paranoia. In reality, the things that'll kill your dick are lack of sleep, jerking off and porn addiction, and other factors like that.
why does fin cause shedding? Isn't it suppose to stop the shedding?
Because what's happening is your follicles that were getting choked out by DHT and miniaturizing their hairs are getting healthy again and basically booting out the dying hairs and then will begin to grow healthier and healthier ones again. Which makes sense because the first ones to go for me were all those really tiny wispy nearly gone hairs, then months later more substantial hairs that were on their way out.
Progress generally shows after about a year because follicles regaining health and hairs going through growth and rest cycles takes time.
Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.
What in the fricking shit am I looking at
>he can't read a chart
Nootropics and other supplements by quadrant.
Top left - Not as many ratings, but high ratings of life changing-ness
Top-Right - Many ratings, high ratings of life changing-ness
Bottom left - Fewer ratings, less ratings of life changing-ness
Bottom right - Many ratings, few ratings of life changing-ness
The axis are not labelled well. What you said is prob what the author meant to say, but that’s not what the author said. He said probability and number of ratings(?). Without context, it’s nonsense. One can guess the meaning, but to a smarter person, the author’s failure to clearly label the axis introduces the doubt that the inferred meaning is the correct meaning.
distilled autism
>tfw I do lots of math
based
>doing math
Explain
No
>:(
EXPLAIN THIS AT ONCE OR ILL FRICKIN KILL YOU DONT DUMB IT DOWN
40Hz light flicker, the frick?
Is phenibut worth it? I've heard mixed reviews
AAAAA I LOVE CHARTS I LOVE DATA MANIPULATION AND INCOMPREHENSIBLE METRICS AAAAAAAAAA
>doing math
What
>Doing math
Frickin' based
Prl 147 the forgotten one...
i think there is a big mental factor
i mean there is tons of young guys with ed because they cant get in the mood stress themselves over it because a man always can frick apperntly and they cant
but there is nothing physiologiclly wrong with them
same for fin
most people have enough test to care of the dht function that is blocked
you don't know a single thing about what you're talking about and all ur opinions stem from israelite payroll on the internet
Tfw I just got some from the store
I've noticed it making me feel less stressed but not necessarily less emotional
It skyrockets my libido sometimes though
If you have anxiety, high cortisol, or generally stress, it's good to take
If you don't have these things it won't do much
i've been trying this shit for a week, my anxiety felt much more manageable, idk about blunting emotions but being happy just feels much more intense now.
I was already a sociopath
which one do i buy
gains dont work for shit if im too pussied out to talk
(even if its placebo)
600 a day had stiatistically better outcomes than 250 a day
just buy the cheapest per mg
You need KSM-66. Whatever has that should be fine. There are a couple more varieties too
so 1?
also why
Standardized extract for withanolide content. That's the part that helps control cortisol. The other stuff could just be randomly gathered ash from india or china or whatever. Likely to be contaminated with heavy metals and other contaminants. That's what kills your liver. Here's 3 varieties, all from nootropicsdepot. They contain different withanolide content
so is it more potent or just less fricked for health
It's tested and standardized. The shoden is most potent with a standard of 35% withanolides. You really don't need it that high but it's available
yeah i only got those 3 as an alternative
not amerifat unfortunately, i wish i had amazon
Been using nootropics depot for years and their shit has always been the best for any supplement
ND is great. I wish they would restock their phenibut and racetams tho
For me it's liftmode.
Based
Get your hand off my white boy ass
Will the Full Spectrum one give me autist powers?
Yeah
do i get swanson ashw or physicians choice
both ksm but one has lower mg per pill
idk if its even worth it to have more
Use tongkat instead.
Best brand?
Solaray for Tongkat and lost empire herbs for Cistanche
Thanks
oh god tongkat makes me so fricking horny. it’s like i’m 15 again at 25. actually i think i’m way more hornier than when i was a teenager on that shit.
been on this for over a month, haven't felt any changes, shits a scam
>it didn't work for me so it must be a scam
better than kms
it's not the cool kind of sociopathic blutned emotions,, its the SSRI zombie kind
why do you make this same thread every day bro...
> Turns you into a functioning psychopath with a huge pump.
Feels good bros.
Huh, so I guess that’s why it had no effect on me.
how much do i have to take to become him
>Willfully eating a made up word
Lemme sell you some uhnjafalja my dude
Do you really have some of that?
how much and what does it do ?
I sent you Message of Private, my friend
I'll take 2.
I wonder if this could help alleviate anxiety without having any major sideaffects.
Took it for a year, just felt like the stuff that would normally bother me, bothered me less than it normally would. No other side effects, stopped taking it and didn't notice any difference. Its nothing crazy, stop being big gay.
do you suffer from anxiety?
Not particularly, but the few things that make me anxious noticeably bothered me less on Ashwaganda. I imagine its even more noticeable for ppl with severe anxiety.
placebo like all non controlled supplements
sketchy indian herb thats become a meme because muh test boost with no side effects that you can get at the supermarket. im not taking this shit
Whats wrong with it. How is it sketchy
Would this be good to take with
Acetly N Carnitate and Tyrosine?
Consult your doctor your starting a supplement routine
bros, i’m not here to slander ashwaganda(specifically KSM66), and i’ve actually started taking it again today, but i definitely got some of that anhedonia last time i used it daily for a month straight. should i maybe only take it during the week and not during the weekend?
i know i sound like a fricking homosexual, acting like i have to cycle this stuff like it’s as serious as roids, but goddamn that anhedonia sucks. i nearly even went “meh” about sex. nearly.
what do you guys think?
>i nearly even went “meh” about sex.
Luxury 🙁 but yeah why not try out cycling it
i’ll try report back in one of these threads since it’s a pretty common topic. but for me last time the anhedonia only appeared in like 3 weeks of daily use.
i’ll try out the 5/2 daily on/off and see how i feel
I’ll try it out for the first time tomorrow wish me luck 🙂 also no sex temptation in sight for me
are you generally a nervous/anxious person with constant stress? you’ll see great results. otherwise you might just crash your cortisol like OP says and you’ll feel dulled.
it’s great for me, i’m anxious as frick.
Idk I have been described as a super chill person by other ppl but I guess I’m just great at forgetting or ignoring things if I think deeply about my situation I feel like the floor is giving up underneath me
Shit chilled me out and made me not care about anything for the first few weeks and then made me fricking angry almost all the time lol. Only worth it for short cycles
>Say you're a cringey incel loser memelord without saying you're a cringe incel loser memelord.
As someone with massive social anxiety, I definitely feel calmer in social situations, and my sleep is a bit better.
>Take 2000 mg of this shit a day
>Barely feel anything
>Sometimes take upwards of 10 mg, because I'm a mad lad like that
The only thing Ashwagandha did, was help with my lifts. I felt none of the calming effects, and definitely didn't feel any anhedonia. Really seems like Ashwagandha is hit or miss for a LOT of people.
Yea everyone has different biochemistry. For me it just calms me the frick down for everything. Gives me that don't give a shit attitude. Makes me feel like less of a b***h
I don't really know about taking things that mess with your brain. Seems kind of risky if you ask me.
Its not any more sketchy than alcohol, coffee, weed, or nyquil
i want to be able to finish university while working full time, without having panic attacks
is this worth taking? or will it frick with my motivation?
You need to see a professional. You can get therapies that will treat you, no drugs needed. Also consider dietary changes, potential hidden food allergies or other allergens, sleep hygiene, sunlight exposure, and meditation. Consider cutting all stimulants including caffeine and drugs including alcohol. You should really see a professional, this isn't something you need to live with. Its unacceptable to be tormented this way and I want to see you get better
talk to a doctor mate. your condition can be managed
went to a doctor when i had a particularly bad episode, debilitating nauseau and throwing up
>first told me she thinks its just food poisoning, despite me saying "im having a panic attack"
>takes my blood, its been 3 weeks and i haven't gotten the test results back
i'm not going to be out another $60 for this shit
yeah i think it can be cause by lack of sleep/caffeine combo. have stopped pouding the monsters and switched to green tea, i don't drink or use drugs and i have a pretty good sleep schedule tbh
meditiation is something i've been meaning to take the time to get into, thanks anon
You should see another doctor. Look for one that specializes in anxiety disorders online. Look at the reviews for the doctor, or ask around to see if anyone can recommend you a doctor.
>pounding the monster
This is definitely a cause of anxiety attacks for someone who is predisposed. Any stimulant is a no-go. Besides meditation, simple breathing exercises you can do anywhere at a moment's notice are breathing exercises. These will force your heart rate to relax and release pressure from your head. Try the methods of breathing in for 4 seconds, holding for 4, exhaling 4, and holding 4 again. Then there is the in 4, hold 7, out 8.
Another thing to consider is swapping green tea for linden and chamomile teas which are calming and soothing. Also, lemon and ginger teas can clear your head and relax you as well. Steam baths in a hot shower will go a long way as well, or simply breathing in over the boiling water for your tea, just close your eyes.
Some anxiety is physiologically caused. Taking a multivitamin and probiotic, and enjoying whole foods and many veggies and fruits, while removing sugar and processed foods can mend this by restoring your gut bacteria which affect your mood. Since we're on IST, I'd advise you reevaluate the supplements you're taking as their ingredients in large amount be a trigger as well. Sleep is the most important thing.
Everyone who is predisposed to anxiety have different causes, be it drugs, genetics, or sleep deprivation, but regardless of the cause there are things you can do and things you can avoid that will give you a much better control over it. It is a laundry list of things, but taking care of our minds is just as important as taking care of our bodies.
Official IST supplement list:
Number 1 ultimate supplement:
>Semen retention
Others:
>NAC
>Lion's Mane mushroom
>Saw Palmetto EXTRACT
>Green Tea extract
>Vitamin D
>B complex
Turmeric is also good for you, same for probiotics
>tumeric
Okay, thanks gramps. I'll add that to my grocery list next to almond milk and egg whites
What? I'm trying to help you out don't give me shit. I drink whole milk and eat my eggs fresh
>Official
moron
Preferably you wouldn't need to supplement anything aside from creatine if you had a perfect diet, but if you insist on taking shit then these are the only things you need.
>creatine
>zinc
>magnesium
>D3 only if you live in an overcast shithole or some place with little to no consistent sunlight
Anything else is unneeded and has little to no benefits.
So what does this thing do
Everything and nothing, all at once. Try it and find out for yourself.
How much should we be taking. It seems like 600mg is the average dose on most of these bottles. Youtheory has 1g pills tho.
Always follow the label. Don't take anything from a pill bottle without reading every word on the label.
600mg is what many studies use, but some use more, some less
homie I'm out here at 2000 mg a day, and it's fine.
>2000 mg a day
ACK
Just got my yearly panel test done, and my liver enzymes are fine, homosexual. I do take Milk Thistle, 500 mg, a day though.
You homosexuals say this about everything
which one do i buy
i just want the placebo to hit me to feel like i'm more social like drinking alcohol enough to not be drunk but not enough to be completely sober
without getting fricked in the liver (i take metothrexate due to shit)
I don't think placebo works like that
stfu bro please let me dream i just want a pill to get a gf
gains arent enough
Your liver will last. Just ask your doctor if your so concerned
yeah nah, so long as i dont do alcohol too often im good
he may be more concerned about eating 140g of protein every day but overall its good
also, i assume in which case its just better to buy the 1000 mg one yeah?
the "ultimate" shit in the other one's name kinda made me think its more concentrated or some shit and maybe it did more than the 1000mg or some shit
the title of the product in the page i buy shit TLs to "certified ultra concentrated max potency" and shit
I'm already a sociopath, how do I become a psychopath?
you into a sociopath
I already am, what do i get instead?
Does it actually do anything? I've tried it before but felt no difference
Why does IST obsess about these stupid supplements. Just live your life, why are you just ingesting pill after meme pill. You were fine before you found out about it, you don't need it. Stop it.
>You were fine before you found out about it
Not OP, but there's a reason people look for shit like this lol
Nobody is looking for this. They find out about it from here.
Nobody is out there looking for or is in need of ashwaganda