>nooooooo oils high in unsaturated are bad despite decades of evidence to the contrary, my favourite xitter personality told me so along with a whole bunch of mommy bloggers
Can't wait for your premature death, DM me the inevitable hospital pics anon
Gluconeogenesis only occurs in kidneys and liver, not every cell. So really, carnivore/keto diet could place an extra burden on the liver and kidneys because of all the conversions that need to take place before other body cells can use them.
>There are entire industries dedicated to getting people to eat sugar, what planet do you live on?
You didn't answer my question.
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The sugar industry, the grain industry, the US government, the mainstream media which is owned by industry, and so on.
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he probably wants to know specific names. he's being extra pendantic because he is arguing in bad faith and jerking off furiouly because he "sure showed you"
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Of course. That's a trademark of these types of guys.
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All the public health authorities, experts, and gurus all say "don't eat sugar". Some particular industry may WANT you to eat sugar (because they are selling it), but that is another thing.
>Who is telling you to eat sugar?
There are entire industries dedicated to getting people to eat sugar, what planet do you live on?
WHO recommends to keep sugar intake (not including fruits, but including juices and honey) below 50g/day and even better when it's below 25g/day. most westerners eat several times that amount of sugar
which health officials are recommending to eat more sugar?
i think that ray peat was somewhat skewed by his preocupation with looking at cell and mouse studies. while i think some use of sugar can be helpful in mitigating cortisol, that homie would drink a quart of orange juice.
he also endorsed speeding up the metabolism by doing shit to the thyroid, and interestingly mice are tiny and have extremely fast metabolisms, which also probably explains why mice respond well to sugar, perhaps better then humans do.
Older than the internet. Just follow normie conventional wisdom on what is/isn't healthy and your diet will be healthy enough. You people overthink everything.
It could be because he's a lean mass hyperresponder. Being lean on keto can cause high ldl in some people (in lean people). If he did that for a long time that could've caused a blockage.
Veggies get you micronutrients that aren’t in meat. But the point is just eating purely saturated fat all the time isn’t good for you. If you add in leaner cuts of meat cooked with olive or avocado oil you’ll have way better health outcomes than somebody who slathers everything in butter, cheese, and sour cream. My lipid profile is perfect and I have high hdl just from doing this. I still eat saturated fats too.
>nooooooo oils high in unsaturated are bad despite decades of evidence to the contrary, my favourite xitter personality told me so along with a whole bunch of mommy bloggers
Can't wait for your premature death, DM me the inevitable hospital pics anon
pufa is cancerous and accelerates ageing. its been known for decades. recomending pufa led to sun fricking peoples skin really bad and resulted in sun deminization and pushing sunscreen.
>pufa is cancerous
Omega 3 fatty acid, is essential for the proper functioning of your brain. The interesting thing is that the problem in the modern diet is often a deficiency in n3 and an excess of n6. Funny thing. It's caused by seed oils and grains.
>Omega 3 fatty acid, is essential for the proper functioning of your brain. The interesting thing is that the problem in the modern diet is often a deficiency in n3 and an excess of n6. Funny thing. It's caused by seed oils and grains.
another funny thing i that people these days all complain about "mental issues" but i am sure that correlation does not mean causation and the environment your brain is in as nothing to do with nutrition. 😀
> correlation does not mean causation
Would make sense if no one actually knew what n3 was used for in the human body. Fortunately we do know what it does and that a significant portion of the population is deficient in n3. We also know, and it has been proven quite thoroughly, that a diet with excessive n6 relative to n3 can cause quite a few problems such as excessive inflammation, obesity, etc. >nothing to do with nutrition
Yet, depression, irritability, and other behavioral symptoms can be caused by nutritional deficiencies.
It's quite funny how morons like to jump back and forth between extremes. They get problems on one extreme, so they jump to the other and suffer from starvation as their body eats away their tissue due to deficiencies in fats and proteins such as on John McDYELs meme starch diet. Never take nutritional advice from a DYEL. If you can identify that they're a DYEL, then their opinion should be immediately discarded.
Also, it is a negative lottery.
People get the side effects even if fit as frick because that's their body reaction to it.
Meanwhile some fatso eating McDonalds daily will never get clots nor Myocarditis, they will still experience sudden death but not because of the aforementioned.
This is true, my aunt is a fat frick who never walks but she always eats a garlic piece every 3 days, she's got better cardiovascular heath than me, my mom and grandma despite not moving for anything but chores.
She's still diabetic because she can't stop drinking a whole Cola daily.
It's so funny when you post this guy because he was literally posting about chugging diet redbulls on his profile and somehow blames the whole food he ate for his heart disease...
>associated with blood clots not clogged arteries
what do blood clots do again?
you fricking jabbed npc gtfo with your vegan propaganda
you keep spamming the board for months now you fricking seething herbivore low test cuck
>With the IP counter removed, Moxyte can samegay to his heart's content. Thanks, mods.
that fricker should have been banned a year ago. instead he i having discussions with himself, shitting up the board.
i remember even a few years ago it was pretty great, before all the looksmaxxing incel shit.
the generals are still alright and i should know better to immediately hide the moxyte threads but there are good anons there making good points only to be wasted on a turd of a thread.
who would have thought that only eating butter, meat (pounds per day) and eggs would cause any medical issue. vegetables are simply required for a balanced diet, so are carbs in small amounts.
eating too much protein simply destroys your kidneys (carnivore diet). without carbs you will not build muscle and you punish your brain for no reason. and i don't even have to explain why (organic) vegetables are healthy.
I mean more generally. It obviously varies among vegetables but you have varying concentrations of phytic acid, goitrogens, oxalates, isoflavones, lectins, and other antinutrients that make it nearly impossible to absorb much nutrition from vegetables. I say this as somebody who semi-regularly eats vegetables for the taste but the bioavailable nutrition of vegetables is essentially nonexistent for human beings.
How the frick am I visiting this board for the first time in 2 years and still seeing the same anti-keto bait threads with the same style???
Anyway, all of you who believe in eating unhealthy amounts of protein and not enough vegetables are moronic
If we're being honest, vegetables are entirely unnecessary. If you had a diet of meat, fruit, and grains, you wouldn't even notice that vegetables were left out.
Yeah, people eat too many of them and then ask why they aren't losing weight. They really just believe. >More vegetables of any kind = healthy
Half-wrong.
Seems like bad genes. Unfortunately, bad genes are quite common. It probably doesn't help that he's eating meat gotten from animals who are fed beans and grains (seed oils are still in his diet).
I cut seed oils for two weeks very strictly and when I went into the beating hot sun for over an hour I didn't get sunburnt at all. While I usually burn in 10 minutes. (I have very pale paper skin). That was enough for me to figure that sneed oils make you more prone to sun damage, which ages you. Not the sun itself
Because of moxyte spam I started doing nocarbs for a month, and it fixed my IBS.
No idea if it's healthy in the long run, but it fixed my gut, which is more than any other diet or meds did for me.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8037144/
Same. Dunno if I had ibs per se because I just had diarrhea every day (probably because of SSRIs that fricked my digestion), but not eating cereals and shit did it for me.
I actually think Moxtye might be the single greatest endorsement of the low carbohydrate lifestyle there is simply because he is so insufferably insane and neurotic that nobody would ever want to do anything that would make themselves remotely like him.
>meme diet causes health problems
Who woulda thunk???
But he cut out all the sneed oils…
samegayging
>nooooooo oils high in unsaturated are bad despite decades of evidence to the contrary, my favourite xitter personality told me so along with a whole bunch of mommy bloggers
Can't wait for your premature death, DM me the inevitable hospital pics anon
>one case for million repeating
I could do one million case fatty dying because of sugar
But nobody is telling you to consume sugar.
Are you serious?
>Are you serious?
Who is telling you to eat sugar?
Glucose is the preferred energy of all cells everywhere. In fact if you exercise, you don't even need insulin to uptake glucose in a cell.
You didn't answer my question.
Im not the same guy. Just saying there is nothing wrong with sugar.
Gluconeogenesis says high.
Gluconeogenesis only occurs in kidneys and liver, not every cell. So really, carnivore/keto diet could place an extra burden on the liver and kidneys because of all the conversions that need to take place before other body cells can use them.
>Who is telling you to eat sugar?
There are entire industries dedicated to getting people to eat sugar, what planet do you live on?
>There are entire industries dedicated to getting people to eat sugar, what planet do you live on?
You didn't answer my question.
The sugar industry, the grain industry, the US government, the mainstream media which is owned by industry, and so on.
he probably wants to know specific names. he's being extra pendantic because he is arguing in bad faith and jerking off furiouly because he "sure showed you"
Of course. That's a trademark of these types of guys.
All the public health authorities, experts, and gurus all say "don't eat sugar". Some particular industry may WANT you to eat sugar (because they are selling it), but that is another thing.
>Pretending to be moronic
WHO recommends to keep sugar intake (not including fruits, but including juices and honey) below 50g/day and even better when it's below 25g/day. most westerners eat several times that amount of sugar
which health officials are recommending to eat more sugar?
Peaters, alt health is shifting towards it. Meanwhile normies are all scared of sugar.
i think that ray peat was somewhat skewed by his preocupation with looking at cell and mouse studies. while i think some use of sugar can be helpful in mitigating cortisol, that homie would drink a quart of orange juice.
he also endorsed speeding up the metabolism by doing shit to the thyroid, and interestingly mice are tiny and have extremely fast metabolisms, which also probably explains why mice respond well to sugar, perhaps better then humans do.
Older than the internet. Just follow normie conventional wisdom on what is/isn't healthy and your diet will be healthy enough. You people overthink everything.
I don't get why ketotards think a stick of butter is good. Like I get cutting carbs and shit but adding that much fat doesn't help either lol.
Exactly. Just eat low carbs, eat skinless chicken breast, avoid sugars. It's really not hard.
>skinless chicken breast
That sounds so scary and disgusting. Where do they put the leftover skin? Do they sell it?
?
It's like cows, they make clothes out of them.
They render the fat and sell it to cosmetics companies or use it in slimjims
Saturated fat (especially from animal products) increases LDL cholesterol which leads to atherosclerosis. This is pure fact.
atherosclerosis is mostly from calcium
It could be because he's a lean mass hyperresponder. Being lean on keto can cause high ldl in some people (in lean people). If he did that for a long time that could've caused a blockage.
what about ApoB?
Not sure on ApoB.
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Cool video
Ketosisters not like this
Samegayging again, ketoschizo?
Vax status?
>being a moron this easy
Shut up
Samegay
Did keto once and while I have amazing weight loss my fingertips got cold
when did he start the carnivore diet and what did he eat before?
Should have done more cardio and drank more waddah.
You gotta flush out the system or fat will accumulate.
eat the damn sugar
Veganschizo thread? Why are you so obsessed with other people eating meat?
Why is a grown man calling himself a "Carnivore Kid"?
He is 14 years old.
don't you dare fasting too
>do keto for 3 years after consuming a normal diet for 40year+
>why did keto do this to me?????!!!!
Started keto probably cause he felt like shit too
oh frick who would have thought that you need to eat vegetables and have a balanced diet?
You can eat many vegetables on keto. Same thing probably would have happened.
How would the vegetables have prevented this outcome?
Veggies get you micronutrients that aren’t in meat. But the point is just eating purely saturated fat all the time isn’t good for you. If you add in leaner cuts of meat cooked with olive or avocado oil you’ll have way better health outcomes than somebody who slathers everything in butter, cheese, and sour cream. My lipid profile is perfect and I have high hdl just from doing this. I still eat saturated fats too.
>But the point is just eating purely saturated fat all the time isn’t good for you
Ketolards claim the opposite all the time.
>Vegetables get you micronutrients that aren't in meat
Which ones?
probably the ones that are only found in tiny amounts in specific cuts of meat or not found at all, like vitamin C and vitamin K1 and manganese
>it turns out that the doctors were right and saturated fat is bad for you
Kek.
The fruit thing is so fricking moronic, ketoBlack folk will never understand.
unsaturated is too. hclf is the way.
pufa is cancerous and accelerates ageing. its been known for decades. recomending pufa led to sun fricking peoples skin really bad and resulted in sun deminization and pushing sunscreen.
>pufa is cancerous
Omega 3 fatty acid, is essential for the proper functioning of your brain. The interesting thing is that the problem in the modern diet is often a deficiency in n3 and an excess of n6. Funny thing. It's caused by seed oils and grains.
>Omega 3 fatty acid, is essential for the proper functioning of your brain. The interesting thing is that the problem in the modern diet is often a deficiency in n3 and an excess of n6. Funny thing. It's caused by seed oils and grains.
another funny thing i that people these days all complain about "mental issues" but i am sure that correlation does not mean causation and the environment your brain is in as nothing to do with nutrition. 😀
> correlation does not mean causation
Would make sense if no one actually knew what n3 was used for in the human body. Fortunately we do know what it does and that a significant portion of the population is deficient in n3. We also know, and it has been proven quite thoroughly, that a diet with excessive n6 relative to n3 can cause quite a few problems such as excessive inflammation, obesity, etc.
>nothing to do with nutrition
Yet, depression, irritability, and other behavioral symptoms can be caused by nutritional deficiencies.
It's quite funny how morons like to jump back and forth between extremes. They get problems on one extreme, so they jump to the other and suffer from starvation as their body eats away their tissue due to deficiencies in fats and proteins such as on John McDYELs meme starch diet. Never take nutritional advice from a DYEL. If you can identify that they're a DYEL, then their opinion should be immediately discarded.
So vaxxed or not?
Vax is associated with myocarditis and blood clots, not clogged arteries from high ldl cholesterol you moron.
Also, it is a negative lottery.
People get the side effects even if fit as frick because that's their body reaction to it.
Meanwhile some fatso eating McDonalds daily will never get clots nor Myocarditis, they will still experience sudden death but not because of the aforementioned.
He was not. Said in a tweet.
Garlic maxing prevent artery blockage and vampires
This is true, my aunt is a fat frick who never walks but she always eats a garlic piece every 3 days, she's got better cardiovascular heath than me, my mom and grandma despite not moving for anything but chores.
She's still diabetic because she can't stop drinking a whole Cola daily.
Raw?
It's so funny when you post this guy because he was literally posting about chugging diet redbulls on his profile and somehow blames the whole food he ate for his heart disease...
redbulls don't have any ingredients that clog arteries
red meat and butter do
Synthetic vitamins would be the culprit
WAS HE JABBED?????
ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU SPAMMING FRICK
>associated with blood clots not clogged arteries
what do blood clots do again?
you fricking jabbed npc gtfo with your vegan propaganda
you keep spamming the board for months now you fricking seething herbivore low test cuck
His arteries are clogged with ldl not blood clots you absolute fricking moron.
post proof you fricking transexual homosexual
You need carbs to convert LDL into anything useful like hormones or building blocks for other cells
Low carb is moronic
With the IP counter removed, Moxyte can samegay to his heart's content. Thanks, mods.
>With the IP counter removed, Moxyte can samegay to his heart's content. Thanks, mods.
that fricker should have been banned a year ago. instead he i having discussions with himself, shitting up the board.
It's whatever, man. This site has sucked for a decade at this point. All taking the IP counter away does is hammer one last nail into the coffin.
i remember even a few years ago it was pretty great, before all the looksmaxxing incel shit.
the generals are still alright and i should know better to immediately hide the moxyte threads but there are good anons there making good points only to be wasted on a turd of a thread.
it became a non political politics board.
>Ketoschizo calling the pot black
You really, really need to have a nice day, Moxyte. Your life has so little meaning it's sad.
calling the pot black
incredible
Vaxxed?
who would have thought that only eating butter, meat (pounds per day) and eggs would cause any medical issue. vegetables are simply required for a balanced diet, so are carbs in small amounts.
eating too much protein simply destroys your kidneys (carnivore diet). without carbs you will not build muscle and you punish your brain for no reason. and i don't even have to explain why (organic) vegetables are healthy.
>and i don't even have to explain why (organic) vegetables are healthy.
The plant defense chemicals say otherwise.
do you mean nightshades? which are all toxic but manageable by most people
I mean more generally. It obviously varies among vegetables but you have varying concentrations of phytic acid, goitrogens, oxalates, isoflavones, lectins, and other antinutrients that make it nearly impossible to absorb much nutrition from vegetables. I say this as somebody who semi-regularly eats vegetables for the taste but the bioavailable nutrition of vegetables is essentially nonexistent for human beings.
How the frick am I visiting this board for the first time in 2 years and still seeing the same anti-keto bait threads with the same style???
Anyway, all of you who believe in eating unhealthy amounts of protein and not enough vegetables are moronic
If we're being honest, vegetables are entirely unnecessary. If you had a diet of meat, fruit, and grains, you wouldn't even notice that vegetables were left out.
People should just avoid eating too many potatoes and rice or corn together.
Why? Because of too many calories?
Yeah, people eat too many of them and then ask why they aren't losing weight. They really just believe.
>More vegetables of any kind = healthy
Half-wrong.
Not impossible but this is one person. How do you know it wasn’t genetic?
Seems like bad genes. Unfortunately, bad genes are quite common. It probably doesn't help that he's eating meat gotten from animals who are fed beans and grains (seed oils are still in his diet).
Moxyte the ketoschizo is back from his ban and gets shit on by everyone right away. Impressive.
Friendly reminder that not only does ketoschizo samegay, as he's been doing this whole thread, he's also a self admitted pedophile.
Keto: not even once.
Moxyte the ketoschizo is a pedo? Color me surprised.
>n-no ur the ketoschizo!
What about the keto diet causes this lack of intelligence?
I see moxyte has ramped up his shitposting now that they hid the counter, literally 99% of the posts here are made by him, I can tell.
I cut seed oils for two weeks very strictly and when I went into the beating hot sun for over an hour I didn't get sunburnt at all. While I usually burn in 10 minutes. (I have very pale paper skin). That was enough for me to figure that sneed oils make you more prone to sun damage, which ages you. Not the sun itself
I see ketoschizo has ramped up her shitposting now that they hid the counter, literally 99% of the posts here are made by her, I can tell.
Because of moxyte spam I started doing nocarbs for a month, and it fixed my IBS.
No idea if it's healthy in the long run, but it fixed my gut, which is more than any other diet or meds did for me.
>another ketoschizo samegayging
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8037144/
Same. Dunno if I had ibs per se because I just had diarrhea every day (probably because of SSRIs that fricked my digestion), but not eating cereals and shit did it for me.
I actually think Moxtye might be the single greatest endorsement of the low carbohydrate lifestyle there is simply because he is so insufferably insane and neurotic that nobody would ever want to do anything that would make themselves remotely like him.