Unless you're training to be Mr. Olympia any lower body exercises beyond squats and deadlifts (any variation of either being alright) is totally unnecessary. If you're using any kind of leg press machine you are a fricking moron.
Unless you're training to be Mr.
Calves? Split squats?
>calves
A totally moronic thing to waste your time training unless you're a professional bodybuilder.
>Split squats
I said in my post any variation squats & deadlifts is acceptable
Disagree about calves m8.
Seen too many lads with decent physiques get cucked from slags who are off lickin another mans wiener grot cause they have bigger calves.
>spend 5 to 10 minutes doing 3 set to failure for calves.
>waste time.
Anon I spend more time shitting in the wc I can afford 10 minutes for calves
Calf raises literally don't do anything and don't even start giving me fricking form tips I know how to do them.
>split squats
Alright you signaled you're a wienerslurper for KoT guy and that means you're a twink, which means you're not a bodybuilder.
Not him but
>Calf raises literally don't do anything and don't even start giving me fricking form tips I know how to do them.
You are a dumb frick then, I've put an inch on my calves over the past 8-9 months with fairly low volume on calves
>Alright you signaled you're a wienerslurper for KoT guy and that means you're a twink, which means you're not a bodybuilder.
Split squats are a heavy movement you dumb moron, the frick are you talking about?
>Calf raises literally don't do anything and don't even start giving me fricking form tips I know how to do them.
Apparently you don't know how to do them or you're too much of a pussy to use real weight on them
>KoT
Literally who?
Who the frick enjoys split squats?
I don't give a frick about my calves. hiking and climbing stairs is all they gonna get from me
Imagine being the moron that sits on the seated calf raise machine to do 2inch ROM for a muscle nobody cares about
I am training to be Mr. Olympia
Post body anon.
If true, I’ll sponsor you
calves are more important than both of those for aesthetics
so why wouldn't I just use machines instead of squats and deadlifts since there's less risk of snapping your shit up?
Its an inferior movement that produces hardly any results
>https://youtube.com/shorts/H_R5AD-GhDU?feature=share
based quadfather, squat is GOD EMPEROR of lowerbody lifts
He looks like shit. Disproportional quads are disgusting.
Post body
>yeah bro that totally happend fr fr for real
TP used machines in his training.
Yeah do not get this, Platz would be nowhere without hack squats and leg extensions. Leg press is a meme tho
He WAS training for mr olympia so of course he did all that stuff. That's Op's point. But back squats will do 85% of the work for 10% of the input. So unless you have some reason to go for the last 15%, then skip it.
Ops point is moronic, nobody sees your hamstrings in real life, but if you ever want to wear shorts without people laughing at you you better have some calves
maybe nobody sees YOUR hamstrings, because you don't have any.
>t. small hammies
If you don't have hamstrings so big that they bulge out of your pants, what are you even doing with your life? Sad
This is entirely false and fricking stupid, “only squats and deadlifts are acceptable because starting strength”
Platz is God tier, but he's simply wrong. There is way more than one way to skin a cat when it comes to bodybuilding.
Based. Dudes will be talking about how the only way to get x is big is with this lift. Explain the calisthenics beasts that out train your claim then
No reason. Hack squats are best for building legs. For that matter, machines are better than free weights for every big muscle as far as bodybuilding is concerned. Of course, reddit will tell you otherwise.
>no le you need to le do le hecking le barbell le
you'll have a weak lower back
I am training to kill the next Mr Olympia (with one kick)
>squats
>rdls
>leg curls and extensions
>calve work
fixed your stupid post
>I made your simple and coherent post gay and reddit
My problem with your post is that it seems arbitrary. So lower body training beyond squats and deadlifts is a waste of time. Why are you allowing squats and deadlifts? Why aren't there a waste of time? Seems like a pretty arbitrary cutoff. My intuition is that you think little body training is a waste of time, but you don't want to look like a pussy, so you say squats and deadlifts are all right.
Here's a more simple rule: If you want to get bigger legs, do the exercises that are required to get there. If you don't want bigger legs, then just maintain them with a couple of exercises.
Just doing squats and deadlifts will get you big legs. They won't be exceptional legs without further training but you'll still mog 99% of people exclusively doing those 2 exercises as your lower body routine. With that little upfront cost of course you should do them, but doing anymore is a waste as it takes away from the aesthetically much more important upper body.
You're arguing from a place of input versus output and that's rational, nothing wrong with that. But here's the thing, the hamstring is very easily trained, you could do just a couple of sets of leg curls to failure and have sufficiently trained your hamstrings from a knee flexion standpoint. On top of that, calf raises are an exercise where you can do a tremendous amount of muscular damage with very few sets if you know how to do them: Pausing at the bottom for a legit couple of seconds, focusing on the weighted stretch, and pushing to failure. I only do a single set for calves because like you, I'm thinking about the inputs versus outputs, but I'm saying you can be oriented around that way of thinking, and still do more than just squats and deadlifts because that extra work on top of it isn't very demanding. If you have a high volume mindset, like you have to do every exercise for five sets, and you're not interested in maximizing your leg development, I can see why you would only do squats and deadlifts.
don’t care. still working legs
You’re moronic there are a lot of supplemental exercises that help you run and jog more efficiently. Those same exercises also help you in most sports as well with shock absorption or encouraging proper biomechanics and stability of the ankle and foot. Literally fricking moronic. OP probably works at a desk or is super young and inexperienced.
Squat. RDL. Split squat. Calf raise. Tibia raises
Simple as, I hit legs for athleticism and to help running not aesthetics
This but I do Bulgarian split squats instead of regular squats. I also am working towards a Nordic hamstring curl, but until then I use the machine.
>do only squat and dl
>have huge thighs and tiny calves
never skip calf day
>what is running and swimming
They don't grow your calves.
i dont get the obsession with big legs for both men and women. they're fricking disgusting and it looks moronic
I understand it for women because it makes my dick hard
why? I personally dislike the small waist big shoulder look - I think the vtaper craze has gone too far and that look makes you look like a freak. to get my goal body I need big legs, altho I rarely do isolations, but if I found a part lacking I would do them
I WANT BIG LEGS. STOP PSYOPPING ME
Every able-bodied humanoid should do powercleans.
What’s his routine? How long has this rat been lifting weights?
Thats NUTS!
highbar back squats, RDLs, calf raises
legs = covered
I need more than those because I want to have ridiculously big legs. I don't leg press though because home gym but still
squats
diddies
calf raises
yeah that's all you need
My femurs are too long for squats to target my quads effectively. Squats are a glute and hip exercise for me.
Wait you guys don't actually train legs, right? Just joking haha..?
I train my legs more than my upper body because I want to squat 5 plates ATG one day
>t. twig legged pussy with shit legs, a shit deadlift and a shit squat
post a picture of your body with an appropriate timestamp to prove me wrong you little homosexual. i you won't precisely BECAUSE you're a little homosexual.
the cope of the calflet
If you don't care about powerlifting leg press is unironically a better exercise for most people.
Not that muscular, but these dudes have walked quite the kilometers
Anyone got the uncropped version?
This is unironically true
Unless you have back pain, then add in hip thrusts
> if your not a professional bodybuilder you can have a shitty unbalanced physique
Probably the worst take I’ve ever seen
My leg day is
RDL
Squat
DB Bulgarian splits
Calf raises sometimes if I feel like it
Nig