Eating pescatarian makes me feel best.
No brain fog, i shit more frequently.
Bit pricy for the fish. but otherwise is gud.
plus eat what you can kill, i can fille a fish, but land animals r friens
You wouldn't cap a Capybara, would you?
i would kill and eat humans even if there wasn't an entire armed state apparatus of trained professionals who would ruin my life if i did
like their lives aren't worth shit
why shouldn't i rape, kill, then eat my hot female colleague who keeps b***hing about me?
how will humans ever outgrow this primitive outlook. we should strive for unity and to become spacefareing and not be as braindead as you my dear homie
I do carnivore and shit every day like clockwork. But it's a very small and tidy shit, very little farting, no mess, no bloat. Basically only excreting a tiny amount of waste, whereas modern food (plant based) eaters excrete almost everything because very little of it is usable and they have to constantly struggle between constipation and diarrhoea since their gut is always irritated. Not enough fibre for vegans = diarrhoea. Too much fibre = constipation. They don't really have normal regular shits. vegan forums are dominated by problems with digestion and it's probably the single most immediate and obvious benefit to cutting that crap out of the diet.
no... there's something wrong with you.
Also it's pescatarian. Veganism isn't a diet anymore it's a "lifestyle" and ethical and political position. If you're just a normal person trying to be healthy and going about it that way it just easier to call something else rather than get lumped in with those psychos.
also don't call it "plant-based" because that is another arm of vegan propaganda that masquerades as science by misrepresenting statistics and ignoring giant areas of health.
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So you're lacto-vegetarian but make exceptions for fish. That's pretty much exactly what a pescatarian is most of the time.
>those psychos
Based on the people who post here anti-vegans are way more likely to be the ones who behave as if they're mentally unstable.
I don't even know why veganism triggers those gays so badly .
the concept of veganism isn't what upsets people it's the the believers/practitioners. Just like holy rollers of yester-era. There's always going to be a group of people that seeks to have a sort of moral authority over their peers. Just like there's always going to be teenage 'satanists' that do what they do out of spite for that group it doesn't mean either of them are right and most people just want them frick off.
I'm trying to avoid having another join them. Like if someone wants to engage their beliefs it's best not let them get sucked up by the moral-authority group or the rebels. There's usually a kind of non-authoritarian group somewhere in the middle that gets overshadowed by the noise.
>I'm trying to avoid having another join them.
Why? who cares if some moron wants to eat a sub-optimal diet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
sub-optimal for who or what they're doing is highly contextual. Most of what veganism and carnivore advocates try to ignore is the giant genetic component that will make or break either of those diets. Or like even in athletics now make trades of longevity for performance. It's important to listen to what people want specifically out of their diet instead of demanding they make compromised for 'ethics' or make sacrifices for performance or growth they don't want or care for. Then filter their potential options through their genetics to see what they can really do about it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
?
1 year ago
Anonymous
you optimal diet is going to part genetically determined, and partly determined by what you do with your body. There isn't a perfect human diet because there isn't perfect humans.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What's that got to do with what I said
>I'm trying to avoid having another join them.
Why? who cares if some moron wants to eat a sub-optimal diet.
though
1 year ago
Anonymous
why would you want someone to join a cult that's chief interest is having power over you?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>that's chief interest is having power over you?
How so?
1 year ago
Anonymous
they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production. Probably also furs, leather, animal testing ect. They also say they're doing it for themselves at first, then it becomes about saving others so a moral authority eventually transforms into a legal one. I don't know how many times we have to see this happen before we recognize it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production.
Lmfao, like that's ever going to happen, vegans are a tiny minority and they have virtually no political power.
1 year ago
Anonymous
and less than half a percent of the world is israeli yet how much of it's politics, resources and lives go to serving their supposedly secular interests. They're deeply embedded in veganism in America rn and while I'm not a conspiracy theorist I think you'd have to be ignorant to not notice proponents of veganism readily attaching itself to more powerful groups.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm not a conspiracy theorist >it's da joos
1 year ago
Anonymous
not an argument
1 year ago
Anonymous
> they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production.
I just want to ban the factory farming (fun fact: if livestock spends 49% of its life in a cage being fed goyslop if doesn’t get the factory farm label in the US).
Yes it will mean your animal products become more expensive, but that’s okay, I’m sure you can afford it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Yes it will mean your animal products become more expensive, but that’s okay, I’m sure you can afford it.
but this doesn't mean veganism will become the cost effective option. It just means food will get more expensive than it is now. With veganism already being bourgeois in price it would just default to us importing meat from countries with more lax animal welfare laws. Probably by the same companies that were only staying domestic because of the subsidies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> With veganism already being bourgeois in price
It’s literally cheaper than any other diet lol.
> it would just default to us importing meat from countries with more lax animal welfare laws.
I am in favour of banning the importation of animal products from nations that retain factory farming.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I am in favour of banning the importation of animal products from nations that retain factory farming.
of course you are because it's not about what we're doing. It's about what you want to allow anyone to do, or buy so you have to expand the scope of your authority.
1 year ago
Anonymous
At no point have I advocated the banning of animal products or their consumption. Instead I have called for a minimum standard of animal welfare.
How exactly is that an assault to your personal freedom?
1 year ago
Anonymous
say I want to ban your right to defend yourself using guns but I can't ban you from owning them? Well I'll just ban every means of access you have to them. But hey I didn't touch your rights I just built a wall around them to the point they're impeded anyway. Then once that walls there what's the harm in changing rights you're not using? It's always the same with you authoritarian types your morals demand sacrifices from others.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> being forced to eat grass fed organic free range meat is an assault on my freedom
kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
it is. It's just removing another liberty from the lower classes while the people at the top are completely unaffected and I will never support that kind of classist restriction.
You believe there should be no laws, no regulations, people should be free to do literally whatever they want?
There's plenty of third world countries that lack the rule of law but I don't think you'd want to live in them.
cite where I said that exactly or demonstrate how you make that conclusion first.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>cite where I said that exactly or demonstrate how you make that conclusion first
It was strongly implied or are you saying now that society does need rules and regulations that benefit the majority, possibly at the expense of some personal freedoms.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you against all good standards legislation? Because they inherently make food production more costly.
you're taking this deliberately to an anarcho-capitalist position through contextomy and I won't be a part of it. There's no point in talking with either of you if the communication breakdown is deliberate.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lmfao, he rage quit
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, it was us. Not mr compare animal welfare legislation to gun control.
Lmfao, he rage quit
Kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you against all good standards legislation? Because they inherently make food production more costly.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You believe there should be no laws, no regulations, people should be free to do literally whatever they want?
There's plenty of third world countries that lack the rule of law but I don't think you'd want to live in them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
say I want to ban your right to defend yourself using guns but I can't ban you from owning them? Well I'll just ban every means of access you have to them. But hey I didn't touch your rights I just built a wall around them to the point they're impeded anyway. Then once that walls there what's the harm in changing rights you're not using? It's always the same with you authoritarian types your morals demand sacrifices from others.
Factory farms are petri dishes for dangerous infectious diseases.
There’s a public health risk. They should be outlawed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>you optimal diet is going to part genetically determined
There are no bears or dogs or giraffes that eat different diets.
>it's the the believers/practitioners.
If that was true then carnivore shills wouldn't be attacking fiber, nutrition, bioavailability etc and would be attacking vegans for being crazy which almost never happens.
what do you expect when you eat a lot of crap where the bulk of it is barely nutritious
by comparison, i shit once or twice a week on carnivore
Eating pescatarian makes me feel best.
No brain fog, i shit more frequently.
Bit pricy for the fish. but otherwise is gud.
plus eat what you can kill, i can fille a fish, but land animals r friens
You wouldn't cap a Capybara, would you?
i would kill and eat humans even if there wasn't an entire armed state apparatus of trained professionals who would ruin my life if i did
like their lives aren't worth shit
why shouldn't i rape, kill, then eat my hot female colleague who keeps b***hing about me?
how will humans ever outgrow this primitive outlook. we should strive for unity and to become spacefareing and not be as braindead as you my dear homie
>i shit once or twice a week
that's very unhealthy and you should see a doctor
Theres no required standart for how many times you shit, whatever you train your ass into is the normal. Barring extreme ends ofc.
T. Also twice a week shitter
its optimally healthy to poop daily
Source? I just asked the webs and found out the normal stretches as far as once every 2 weeks lol
maybe if you dont eat anything yea sure.
But i eat anywhere from 2k to 2.5k cals a day and i shit from 1 to 4times a day homie sit down wtf
I do carnivore and shit every day like clockwork. But it's a very small and tidy shit, very little farting, no mess, no bloat. Basically only excreting a tiny amount of waste, whereas modern food (plant based) eaters excrete almost everything because very little of it is usable and they have to constantly struggle between constipation and diarrhoea since their gut is always irritated. Not enough fibre for vegans = diarrhoea. Too much fibre = constipation. They don't really have normal regular shits. vegan forums are dominated by problems with digestion and it's probably the single most immediate and obvious benefit to cutting that crap out of the diet.
Carnivore kills gains tho
>carnivore
Opinion ignored
no... there's something wrong with you.
Also it's pescatarian. Veganism isn't a diet anymore it's a "lifestyle" and ethical and political position. If you're just a normal person trying to be healthy and going about it that way it just easier to call something else rather than get lumped in with those psychos.
>pescatarian
If I'm eating fake meat and dairy, I'd still say it's Vegan
also don't call it "plant-based" because that is another arm of vegan propaganda that masquerades as science by misrepresenting statistics and ignoring giant areas of health.
So you're lacto-vegetarian but make exceptions for fish. That's pretty much exactly what a pescatarian is most of the time.
>those psychos
Based on the people who post here anti-vegans are way more likely to be the ones who behave as if they're mentally unstable.
I don't even know why veganism triggers those gays so badly .
the concept of veganism isn't what upsets people it's the the believers/practitioners. Just like holy rollers of yester-era. There's always going to be a group of people that seeks to have a sort of moral authority over their peers. Just like there's always going to be teenage 'satanists' that do what they do out of spite for that group it doesn't mean either of them are right and most people just want them frick off.
>most people just want them frick off.
So why engage with them?
I'm trying to avoid having another join them. Like if someone wants to engage their beliefs it's best not let them get sucked up by the moral-authority group or the rebels. There's usually a kind of non-authoritarian group somewhere in the middle that gets overshadowed by the noise.
>I'm trying to avoid having another join them.
Why? who cares if some moron wants to eat a sub-optimal diet.
sub-optimal for who or what they're doing is highly contextual. Most of what veganism and carnivore advocates try to ignore is the giant genetic component that will make or break either of those diets. Or like even in athletics now make trades of longevity for performance. It's important to listen to what people want specifically out of their diet instead of demanding they make compromised for 'ethics' or make sacrifices for performance or growth they don't want or care for. Then filter their potential options through their genetics to see what they can really do about it.
?
you optimal diet is going to part genetically determined, and partly determined by what you do with your body. There isn't a perfect human diet because there isn't perfect humans.
What's that got to do with what I said
though
why would you want someone to join a cult that's chief interest is having power over you?
>that's chief interest is having power over you?
How so?
they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production. Probably also furs, leather, animal testing ect. They also say they're doing it for themselves at first, then it becomes about saving others so a moral authority eventually transforms into a legal one. I don't know how many times we have to see this happen before we recognize it.
>they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production.
Lmfao, like that's ever going to happen, vegans are a tiny minority and they have virtually no political power.
and less than half a percent of the world is israeli yet how much of it's politics, resources and lives go to serving their supposedly secular interests. They're deeply embedded in veganism in America rn and while I'm not a conspiracy theorist I think you'd have to be ignorant to not notice proponents of veganism readily attaching itself to more powerful groups.
>I'm not a conspiracy theorist
>it's da joos
not an argument
> they want to ban fishing, hunting, meat, egg and diary production.
I just want to ban the factory farming (fun fact: if livestock spends 49% of its life in a cage being fed goyslop if doesn’t get the factory farm label in the US).
Yes it will mean your animal products become more expensive, but that’s okay, I’m sure you can afford it.
>Yes it will mean your animal products become more expensive, but that’s okay, I’m sure you can afford it.
but this doesn't mean veganism will become the cost effective option. It just means food will get more expensive than it is now. With veganism already being bourgeois in price it would just default to us importing meat from countries with more lax animal welfare laws. Probably by the same companies that were only staying domestic because of the subsidies.
> With veganism already being bourgeois in price
It’s literally cheaper than any other diet lol.
> it would just default to us importing meat from countries with more lax animal welfare laws.
I am in favour of banning the importation of animal products from nations that retain factory farming.
>I am in favour of banning the importation of animal products from nations that retain factory farming.
of course you are because it's not about what we're doing. It's about what you want to allow anyone to do, or buy so you have to expand the scope of your authority.
At no point have I advocated the banning of animal products or their consumption. Instead I have called for a minimum standard of animal welfare.
How exactly is that an assault to your personal freedom?
say I want to ban your right to defend yourself using guns but I can't ban you from owning them? Well I'll just ban every means of access you have to them. But hey I didn't touch your rights I just built a wall around them to the point they're impeded anyway. Then once that walls there what's the harm in changing rights you're not using? It's always the same with you authoritarian types your morals demand sacrifices from others.
> being forced to eat grass fed organic free range meat is an assault on my freedom
kek
it is. It's just removing another liberty from the lower classes while the people at the top are completely unaffected and I will never support that kind of classist restriction.
cite where I said that exactly or demonstrate how you make that conclusion first.
>cite where I said that exactly or demonstrate how you make that conclusion first
It was strongly implied or are you saying now that society does need rules and regulations that benefit the majority, possibly at the expense of some personal freedoms.
you're taking this deliberately to an anarcho-capitalist position through contextomy and I won't be a part of it. There's no point in talking with either of you if the communication breakdown is deliberate.
Lmfao, he rage quit
Ah yes, it was us. Not mr compare animal welfare legislation to gun control.
Kek
Are you against all good standards legislation? Because they inherently make food production more costly.
You believe there should be no laws, no regulations, people should be free to do literally whatever they want?
There's plenty of third world countries that lack the rule of law but I don't think you'd want to live in them.
Factory farms are petri dishes for dangerous infectious diseases.
There’s a public health risk. They should be outlawed.
>you optimal diet is going to part genetically determined
There are no bears or dogs or giraffes that eat different diets.
>it's the the believers/practitioners.
If that was true then carnivore shills wouldn't be attacking fiber, nutrition, bioavailability etc and would be attacking vegans for being crazy which almost never happens.
Oh frick off, they can never leave people alone, they proselytise constantly. I hate them because they just won't leave me the frick alone
Are these 'vegans' in the room with you now?
> I can’t stand them
> Goes into their threads
You’re clearly just vegan-curious. Just trial it for a month anon.
unironically good experience. should always do something new bros
>Eat way too much indigestible fiber
>surprised when all you do is fart and shid