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she’s a vegan but she still eats meat if you catch my drift
Not sure if I catch your gift. Can you explain?
She sucks dick.
Enough with the riddles already. Just explain what you mean.
SHE DON'T EAT MEAT BUT SHE SURE LIKES THE BONE
is it vegan if i suck on her breasts?
I get the ethical side of vegans, and ostensibly I understand your arguments about the unhealthiness of animal products even if I disagree, but what argument do vegans have about honey? What excuse do you have to miss out on honey gains, besides ethics?
I don't plan to be that strict honestly. I would eat honey
There is no ethical side of vegans. Animal products are not unhealthy.
>g-guys breeding and torturing billions of harmless animals in factory farms is le good
kys
everyone who looks impressive is on steroids and its not because animal or plant protein. biggest and strongest animal on the planet are elephant and after that the rhino and they only get plant protein.
>everyone who looks impressive is on steroids
im aware i just thought it was an amusing anecdote. i find it less amusing that he grifts people into thinking thinking “hey i can be just like him if i just eat vegan” instead of giving the whole picture
Look at the horrible breeding and torturing of harmless animals in pic related! We need to give up our rights and start eating bugs now! Don't forget to get vaccinated!
Yes, obviously this one photograph of a few cows in a field of grass proves that the industry in question is completely harmless and not evil at all, and that you should follow the liberal status quo by giving up your rights and following the current agenda. You are very wise, anon.
>tell me you've never ventured outside your 90% white suburban neighborhood and actually met/spoken to a farmer, without telling me you've never ventured outside your 90% white suburban neighborhood and actually met/spoken to a farmer
I literally live in a village but keep trying, I guess.
nice man, you know its February now and haven't set foot outside your front door since what.. mid December?
nice man, keep trying!
its winter, should be some pretty scenery around your """"village"""""" you've no doubt taken the opportunity to get outside and take photos of right? because you're definitely not a lying shut-in
post some of those photos here
>its winter
It's 50 degrees outside.
>post some of those photos here
Nice try, glowie.
Let me guess you believe that the amazon rainforest is being chopped down to grow onions for cows?
No, not really. Now what?
Bryan jonson takes testosterone patches moron
>Carnivore le bad
>look at how good these plant based millionaires look
Carnigays are moronic, however
>Joleen Diaz is pescatarian, she eats eggs and fish
>Chuando Tan is a normal person aka omnivore, eats eggs, chicken, fish, dairy, even ice cream
https://brightside.me/articles/how-a-man-that-looks-20-at-50-lives-and-what-his-diet-is-like-605860/
>Bryan Johnson is vegan at the moment, but for ethical reasons only, his bluprint can accomodate meat
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f300785-e208-4ff5-a34e-b24351793605_1132x860.png
>Leto is closest to an actual vegan in this pic, but cheats with dairy on occassion
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/jared-leto-pretty-healthy-but-enjoys-occasional-vegan-treat.html/
Just be normal for fricks sake it's not hard. Yet again I see moronic extremists being deceptive on both sides.
>Just be normal for fricks sake it's not hard
>He said on a Japanese weirdo enthusiast forum
You're moronic and have no understanding of ethics.
>t doesn't know who Immanuel Kant was
Oh, you mean the guy who said we are only permitted to slaughter animals painlessly and that violent and cruel treatment of animals is forbidden?
>your brain on sòy and other men's cum
>thinks he had a gotcha moment by namedropping a random philosopher he hasn't read and now resorts to insults
i studied philosophy at a university level, and nowhere was this covered in his ethics, or in ethics in general. lmfao, probably because my professor WASNT mentally ill and in a cult
~~*university*~~
Nobody worth a damn works at a israeliteversity
ah, yes the seething /misc/tard reveals himself
frick off back there
We literally live in a dark age because of israelites and leftists you dumb authority appealer
Stupid goyim
Maybe it's the fact that Kant isn't known for his animal rights views, but you still had to namedrop him for some reason, as if he were the sole authority for ethical discussion, and even then you didn't realize he actually spoke about animal suffering at one point. But this wasn't covered in your little seminar, so you think it's not relevant.
>my professor WASNT mentally ill
Unlikely, since academics are all mentally ill.
The categorical imperative easily can apply to animals though
Not sure about that. Kant emphasized rationality and autonomy, which he associated with humans, not animals, but he still insisted we have indirect duties concerning animals and that it's our moral obligation to not mistreat them.
>philosophy
>at a university level
>nowhere was this covered in his ethics, or in ethics in general
interesting way to say you didn't read his writings. You just accepted whatever your prof told you at face value. You could literally read the SEP and realize how wrong you are. Let me guess. 3.0 gpa?
lmao, absolutely btfo
I prefer Schopenhauer.
You can be against the agricultural/meat industry and their brutal treatment of animals and for minimizing animal suffering, and be fine with local farmers if they treat animals humanely.
Funny enough that's an argument amongst vegans to my understanding. Since it's beneficial to bees to be kept by beekeepers, and they produce more honey than they'll ever use, and the sale of honey helps the keepers keep more bees, there's an argument that it's okay.
I'm not vegan or vegetarian but intellectually dishonest homosexuals like you deserve to get punched in the neck.
It is beneficial to take chicken eggs and milk cows milk provided you have not forced the milk production and the calf is done consuming it. It being beneficial is not an argument really, it is plainly unethical to harvest honey, but my point was veganism for health is a myth even if they are right about other animal products which again I disagree.
I am a hardcore libertarian, veganism makes perfect sense to me especially with the disregard for pest animals. Even if you argue it is beneficial for cows and chickens to live under humans it is still theft and our treatment of animals is essentially fascism, the sacrificing of rights for a better end. One day I hope to own a little property and be a chicken and bee fascist dictator.
>hardcore libertarian
>disregards nature/natural law
>disregards market-driven ethics
Natural law is not dog eat dog lol, and the market has nothing to do with libertarianism, capitalism is more like a happy accident of a just ethical system.
>I get the ethical side of vegans
lmao imagine "Getting" the ethics of a fricking cult.
Some flavors of veganism are okay with honey. Hell some are okay with roadkill, since it's accidental.
It obviously varies depending on where you are but in my experience most vegans have no issue with honey.
What do vegans have to do with veganism
I didn't mention veganism and neither did the post I replied to. Apply yourself ESL-kun.
What does THAT have to do with veganism
Your holdout on veganism is sugar? Really?
Boobs
nice rack, too bad she probably smells like patchouli
>vegan
>ve v / an
The only vegan bodybuilder with actual gains I know personally is very clearly frauding his ass off. Wannabe fitness influencer fake natty and everything lol
She gives of narcissist vibes for whatever reason. Might be the eyebrows and trying to show boobs on a bike ride
Trying and succeeding. I can see her entire nipple
I hope i am wrong but she just creeps me out
How many animals do you think were helped thanks to this picture? My guess is zero. I can understand choosing not to eat meat as a protest to certain cruelties of the current meat industry, but I wonder how much consideration goes into the welfare of animals when dickheads like this use it as an excuse to post social media content.
Based boy of the plants here.
Feels good mane.
I need to lose like 20 pounds.
Almost 40.
Twin bro eats all meats and dairy.
40 pounds heavier than me.
But can have bad hangovers from years of drinking and glutathione depletion.
He rarely gets hangovers.
Benfotiamine and NAC are life savers.
Um, we're good.
What a disingenuous homosexual. Lots of children have died from the vegan diets their loony parents put them on. Also did he choose a filter specifically to make himself look worse? He looks like hes doing chemo
For the record, the kids died of climate change.
Fyi climate change is a part of feminism now
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_and_gender
>Look how good I look!
>Auswitchz mode body
>starts out talking about protein for building muscle
>ends up saying vegans don't die of protein deficiency
Checkmate, I guess.
every time I wanna go vegan this guy ruins it for me
Yes, albeit very slowly. I restrict sugar and PUFAs. I consume a lot of coconut butter and milk. I eat tempeh over tofu. I combine different plant proteins to ensure that I’m getting all or at least 7 out of 9 essential amino acids. I can OHP 135, bench 195 (lmao), squat 275 and I’m not gonna deadlift. I have respect for people who raise their own livestock or hunt/fish their own food. I know that my diet nerfs my gains. I don’t mind having the extra challenge.
sweet man. Hey quick question, how long until you start your PED addiction due to, you know, the fact all your muscles will disappear and you'll become mentally ill.
I don’t consider the side effects to be worth it. So long as I retain my strength then I will be okay with how my frame looks
Vegan straight edge here. Loving the clean and sober life. Staying lean and tight. Do a lot of boxing, calisthenics, and free weights. I'm never gonna be the biggest bloke in the room but I'm pretty content with how things are.
I'm convinced that food, especially meat, is like a drug. The amount of mental gymnastics people employ when faced with claims that they don't want animals to needlessly suffer is insane.
I am heavily considering taking up hunting. I don't care about animal rights for it to sacrifice my eating habits, but the unnecessary suffering involved in the modern meat industry gets to me. Think I'd rather take personal resposibility and quickly kill something that lived a natural life instead.
Seems like a fun skill.
whos the girl?
I can see her nipples (. )( . )
i love how vegans will go on about the "ethics" of killing animals while ignoring the fact that plants are a life form all their own. just because you can't empathize with a carrot or head of lettuce doesn't mean that millions upon millions of them aren't raised specifically to be killed and consumed
Nobody take this bait
it's not bait if it's the truth
Ethically speaking, do you think there is a difference between killing a human and a mouse? An orangutang and an insect? A dolphin and a carrot?
Imagine the terrible dilema women face between showing your cleavage or your nutritional status
I've been vegan for around 6 years now. Started as soon as I saw the documentary What the Health. I'm happy with my physical fitness, health, and gains. I didn't lift/do calisthenics before going vegan so I don't have anything to compare it to. Never going back.