Today was a good day. Made some decent money in the stock market. Can't complain. Hopefully within a year it can buy me a gf so I won't have to be a wizard.
Bretty good. I'm almost a wizard. Girls have been interested in me before but I never go further with them. The last girl that I was seriously talking to, I ghosted. kek.
anon it's not like you can unvirgin yourself. It only makes sense as time goes, virginity goes down.
Also, I don't know if you're just not in that age range yet anon, but 25-30 is when the women realize time is ticking and pick their long haul man. Those men are getting fricked by that point.
Agree with other anon, there’s no way that 98% of virgin 20 yo men(give or take), are having sex in that five year window. Kids go to college at 18-19. If they don’t have sex 1-2 years into that I see no reason why such an overwhelming amount would have sex 20-25.
It's true, though. The betas don't get laid in the initial wave of sexhaving. They pick up the scraps once the prostitutes are starting to get burned out, get on the pill and look for a beta to cozy up to. Many guys don't go to grad school but find a job, at which point some prostitute is likely to try and mooch off them (if they're not commited autismos like me).
This is what happened to pretty much everyone in my class at engineering school. They found fat gfs around 3rd year or later, as they started finding jobs in industry.
Possibly, I'm not going to read an article or whatever because lol, but in college many surveys had some kind if incentive and all sorts of people would show up.
People who are actual longterm virgins are unlikely to answer these surveys at all, the number is higher. The survey however misses on the "had sex once with a fat chick then never scored again" types, since men are moronic and will place a premium on 'losing' their virginity, but have no plan to take their sex life further from there.
It reminds me of that one manga where the Japanese government was forcing virgins to breed because they were exploding or something, then one guy fricked a 70 year old woman and thought he was cool- but all of the sex-havers at school made fun of him for being a gilffricker anyway.
Defining yourself by the needs and standards of others is moronic, you should have sex to relieve stress when you can with someone you are physically attracted to- rather than fricking a fat chick to 'break a dry spell' or 'lose your virginity', too many men on IST go insane and inject their penis with roids to become the ultimate lifter to impress women who don't exist and men who don't care.
>People who are actual longterm virgins are unlikely to answer these surveys at all, the number is higher.
Why? Everyone online loves to play the victim and cry about their virginity, i agree with the guy you replied to.
>tfw doctor measured my dick and laughed at me for being a incel
Bros... it's over. Do you think if I do creatine I can leave humanity behind and get a qt 3.14 gf?
I lost my virginity at 18 and I feel like that isn't weird, maybe change the age range to 19-21 and also compare with 19-21 from 10 or 15 years ago, not actual 30 year old wizards (rare)
>21 this december >starting final year of uni in 2 months >still havent talked to a single woman on campus and will probably complete the 3 year streak
owari da
I had a similar experience where there were pretty much no women in any of my classes since apparently economics is pussy repellent. Didn't help that I'd either completed all my core classes in high school or did them online.
If it matters a lot to you then you should go for it immediately and aggressively. When I was in college I had a girl in senior year who was into me but I didn't go for her because I told IST I felt like I needed to focus on my studies. I always remember people on IST being like "yeah bro finish up". In hindsight I wish someone had told me to go for it because sex in collegia can sometimes be self-defining. At least you should attempt to go for it, so you can say in a few years "yeah I didn't get sexo, but at least I tried and didn't pass up on girls trying to fricko my dicko".
> but at least I tried and didn't pass up on girls trying to fricko my dicko".
Not that anon, but man I find it hard. I just fundamentally don't understand and somehow can't accept why they don't approach US if they're so interested. I've had girls who will stare at me every day in class at uni, literally just fricking stare, and then do nothing at all. Why is it our burden to say anything? Why can't they be sensible people and just say hi?
I get it, complaining about it won't change that our society says it's my job to approach, but somehow still it frustrates me to no end. It's a mental block.
>Why is it our burden
Because society babies women intensely and women like the power of being able to turn men down. The incel 'epidemic', besides the disgusting amount of fat chicks, comes directly from phone apps where women can just ghost men without saying no. Most women are fricking cowards and have a hard time saying no if asked in person (hence all those 'feminists' seething about "men pressuring them" because women have zero balls) but ultimately when given the choice women will play hard to get and then you get millions of cat ladies complaining they're 44 and can't find a good man. Because they are stupid and this country is stupid.
>I've had girls who will stare at me every day in class at uni, literally just fricking stare, and then do nothing at all.
And then you think about them all week and then also do absolutely nothing at all. Turn the mirror on yourself.
>And then you think about them all week and then also do absolutely nothing at all. Turn the mirror on yourself.
I do not, no, as I'm a very busy man to the point of being overwhelmed a tad. I've approached women and been on dates before.
Why would you automatically assume such a thing? And even if it were true, that doesn't even remotely negate anything I said.
What you're saying doesn't add up. If you're comfortable approaching girls, and telling me that you have girls at uni that you're 100% sure are into you, then why not just approach?
I watched plenty of porn when I was in my early 20s and still smashed every weekend. 30+ body count at least and I’m very average looking.
It’s so easy especially with dating apps. Like you have to be completely socially moronic or straight up hideous with high standards to be left in the dust on something as arbitrary as pussy.
I don’t think you understand. Zoomer shave been zapping their brains with 4k fetish porn on their smartphones since they were literally children. That shit fricks with your psyche.
Because you're not missing out much.
There's a reason why all spiritual teachings go against sex, because it's a waste of time.
Also, have you achieved independence? Of some sort at least.
Sex is awesome, I don’t care if some neurotic desert israelites say it’s le bad
It was easy like 10 years ago. What are you going to do now, go on a dating app and have some 30yo bawd single mom try to get you to be her kid's dad? After 25 the women become really fricking awful on those apps, all of them are people who should know better. It literally only works if you're in college and she's in college and there's just sex, no pressure or weird ulterior motives.
>im average >it's easy with dating apps
this is a glaring contradiction. average men get 0 action from dating apps. just a reminder when a sex haver is saying he's average this is what he means: sex every weekend from tinder. only chad can do this
I literally couldn’t imagine having my first time with a rando girl, Id be terrified. It turns out I was right. If I were to act the way I did initially with a normal girl, it would’ve been over/did I even have the capability to get that far anyways? Also threw a lot of illusions out the window.
nta what about kings who had harems by the time they were 13, would you say that doesn't count?
It's using a cheatcode and you are back at step 1 in terms of a real relationship, but you get to see the ending and a little experience that way so some day you might do it legit.
Oh well. I’m still probably better looking and more intelligent than you. I just don’t have a GF at this point, I did it because it was affecting my mental at my job, which takes care of me incredibly well (because I’m good looking and charismatic. But that turns off around girls I’m attracted to)
even that, why should I care about getting a girlfriend/mate?
There are degenerate criminals, drug addicts, and losers who have girlfriends. Are you saying they're better than me just because they have a girlfriend?
>have career >have house >in shape from 12 years of workingout
Bitches don't care, and many laugh about me not being able to drive at 28.
Not a virgin though, but it's over embellished how women respond to financial successful men. They see it as their right to have access to these men.
My neet friend still fricks more than I do because he is ridiculously confident.
My other friend whom is similar to me, career wise (but in uni debt) and lives in apartment in London does ok, but still nowhere near as good as my fat neet friend, who isn't even that attractive (facially) but just knows his target market and has the gift of the gab.
I have no need to lie about it because nobody ever thinks to bring it up. The last time I was asked was by a high school friend I met 7 years ago. I lied then but only because I knew he'd feel bad for me.
Because you're not missing out much.
There's a reason why all spiritual teachings go against sex, because it's a waste of time.
Also, have you achieved independence? Of some sort at least.
>all the horny average/hot girls go frick chads >nonchad males are left with porn, ugly b***hes, and fat whales >nonchads only get hot girls after they hit the wall and want betabuxx
cruel world
How is nonchads (not hot guys) being left with not hot girls a cruel world? That's perfectly just.
If you have all the tools in the world to be a chad and you just don't become one for whatever reason, that's 100% your fault and you get what you deserve.
because chads are horny dogs and steal girls far below their league from dudes
women never looksmatch, they always punch up, and the chads let them get away with it
>incel cope
Heard it all before anon. Get new material.
I can't speak for every last "chad" out there but I for one have never gone slumming and "stolen" your 3s and 4s. Why the frick would I?
Chad will FRICK the 7/10 average girl, but he won't commit to her.
Chads aren't stealing average girls from average guys, they just use them for sex ocassionally
Chad will FRICK the 7/10 average girl, but he won't commit to her.
Chads aren't stealing average girls from average guys, they just use them for sex ocassionally
counter-argument: after a 7/10 has had Chad or even more than one Chad she gets an inflated sense of her own attractiveness. she now thinks she's out of a 7/10 man's league. and the fact that Chad wouldn't commit to her? rationalized away pretty easily. she figures she just has to have sex with more Chads and eventually one of them will stick around. so 7/10 girl keeps """dating""" Chads while 7/10 guy has to either settle for less or become volcel.
yes but those average girls are all chasing after chad asking him to commit when they're 37 with a body count of 50 chads they start to wise up and realise he won't commit. They then pick a beta who got no play during his 20s and worked hard, the type of guy she would have never looked at before. He then marries this roastie and she pops out 1 or 2 of his kids (they're actually chad's). He pays for her and chad's kid's entire lives. Even if she is caught and they divorce she gets the kids, house, alimony and child support. As a women you can't lose.
>women never looksmatch, they always punch up, and the chads let them get away with it
yes, but those women are getting a relationship with Chad, they're getting fricked. Women want relationships
"chad" just tells them what they want to hear you homosexual instead of what you autists think "chad" would say to a woman its pretty simple incels never learn tho
not hot guys can just mean not tall or an unfortunate facial structure. not hot woman almost always means fat, 95% of women are attractive when they aren't lard
tbh my first time was when i was 20
kind late i guess but now that i'm 30 it doesn't even matter
i should've married that girl too, she was a saint compared to what came next
No bro it's called the "old loser" valley. Virgin % drops drastically after 30 cuz all the losers who couldn't get laid before 30 suddenly turn into chads and get laid daily.
No bro it's called the "old loser" valley. Virgin % drops drastically after 30 cuz all the losers who couldn't get laid before 30 suddenly turn into chads and get laid daily.
I realized I'm being an butthole to a fellow virginchad. I would like to apologize
>self reported
so it's actually 65-70% of young men who are virgins. I'm glad normies are suffering, I've been seeing a lot more women hate online lol. Why don't they take the same advice they were giving incels all those years? Just take a shower and be confident broo
It's quite funny watching zoomers be so pathetic, it's justice that normies who hated autists now all have the same behavior. Even funnier though are those incel hating guys who go on about being nice and shit and "having a personality" yet they have no gf
Who's suffering? Sex havers will burn in hell for fornication. It's literally written in the bible. I bet you almost all of these havers aren't even married.
Word. Women often say I'm cute or sweet, but that's not getting me anywhere. Only men hit on me. I swear to fricking god recently I ordered some fries at a snack bar and the dude behind the counter said "you can have me with the menu as well". This shit is creeping me out.
I got to 1/2/3/4 and a really hot young girl seduced me and took my v card at 33 despite my tism, she even said it was because I looked strong. Keep lifting bros.
i'm 25 and noticed that getting girls became substantially more difficult as social media started to propagate
i think it was around 2013 or 2014? whenever the hot party normies started uploading selfies onto instagram and getting tons of likes was when things shifted
Idk, I've been out of commission for 3 years following a long term relationship breakup right before the 'rona. I have some stuff to sort out in my life first. Had a couple of girls in this period I think were interested, but nothing ever materialized as I don't pursue. I am absolutely not going to do the online dating thing.
Used to be at the start of all this that people posting everything they do on social media were considered weird, now it's normalized and you have people becoming mentally ill. The vanity and hollowness thoroughly disgusts me.
Something like that. It was around then also or maybe a little before that sjwism became super militant that if you said hello to a girl at school or at work and she didn't like you and wanted attention that would essentially be it, you'd be expelled/fired and put in prison.
Yea thats the turning point around 2012ish. Thats when the sjw tumblr feminist bullshit was really starting to take off and bleed through into real life. Instagram and Snapchat and shit were also blowing up.
Same. I'm 24 and I've ate pussy and gotten a BJ before, but I never rounded home base. Not sure what I'm considered.
Now I'm at the point where I'm not even trying to have sex because I don't see how it could benefit me at all unless I'm in a legitimate relationship. I don't want to catch an STD or get a girl pregnant from a one night stand. But girls these days want to just get dicked down on the first date whereas I want to go slow and actually form a relationship before fricking.
>Now I'm at the point where I'm not even trying to have sex because I don't see how it could benefit me at all unless I'm in a legitimate relationship
do you not have a sex drive? the idea of putting your dick inside a woman isn’t appealing enough? >scared of std or pregnancy
you can’t use a condom? is this fear really so big that you would avoid sex through so much of your adult life?
Oh, I absolutely have a sex drive, I'm just (probably) autistic and the logic doesn't make sense. Having sex will feel great for a moment, but the consequences of it logically outweigh the non-existent benefits. And condoms don't work %100 of the time. If I'm just fricking a girl in a one night stand, then I'm just using her for her body to get myself off. No different than fricking a damp, microwaved, rolled up towel and I can't get towel pregnant, get AIDS from a towel or have the towel accuse me of rape.
If I am going to have sex with a woman, I want to actually love her. When you're getting intimate with a woman, it's completely different and much more fulfilling if you actually love her rather than having met her that night off a dating app.
>no I’m saying if you have working testicles and aren’t a -1/10 you would have fricked an average girl by now. just average
Not worth the risks, senpai
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I understand. My little bro is autistic and he is very analytic/literal about things in a similar way. Do what makes sense to you.
All I can say is this, the consequences of a sexual encounter aren’t as grave as you’re making them out to be. You are probably building this anxiety up in your head. I know many, many, many sexually active people who are STD free. Condoms can break but they really do work. Birth control works. Women accusing you of rape because of a one night stand? That is pretty much an imaginary scenario created by an anxious mind that spends a lot of time on the internet.
Plus, it's just so annoying seducing a girl as is. If I'm going to do so, I want it to start an actual relationship. I can easily fake interest in a girl and say the right things she wants to hear to get her in bed, but frick, it's so tiring and annoying. I don't want to be a man-prostitute, either. I want a woman I can love, someone I can relate to. I don't want to have sex, I want to make love.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have to start by going on some dates and seeing what is out there. A random woman isn’t gonna show up at your doorstep begging to get engaged. Being a man is all about going and finding it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's what I did from 20-23. All I learned is that quality girls are not on dating apps. I'm in a small town in Texas and I don't really know where good girls my age are at. I'm legitimately thinking of going to church again just to meet non-loose women.
There's this problem with ugly people that isn't really discussed here... Even if you as an ugly person somehow manage to get a girlfriend, the thing is that the relationship probably won't last very long. Today's dating market basically means you have to go through many girlfriends before you get lucky and settle down. So if you struggle to get one gf, how are you gonna get the next ones after you break up with that first one? It's insane.
I've always been nervous about approaching women but the few times I've done it in my life it was usually successful so I don't know why I have so many hangups about it.
Take a look in the mirror bro. You were getting laid in highschool with ease apparently and yet you ended up here on IST. They're improving, you're going backwards, who has the better long-term prospects?
I didn't get laid until I was 21, never jerk offd until after I got laid. I went through some trauma right as I hit puberty, was malnourished and had terrible acne due to stress. Halfway through my junior year in high school I started coming out of it, started playing sports, eating better, put on healthy wait and my acne cleared up but I was WAY behind socially. I joined the service and continue to mature physically but was still clueless about women. One night I was in bed and my roomie came home from the club with a couple of girls. One asked if she could sleep in my bed, I said sure. She wasn't bad looking but I turned my back to her and was laying on my side. She had stripped totally nude and was rubbing herself against my back. I literally started shaking so she stopped. The next morning I told her I was a virgin. She told me to relax and started stroking me. I eventually calmed down, got hard and she gave me a blow job. It was the first time I'd ever cum besides a few wet dreams. I was still hard so she rode me and I came again in like a minute. After that I couldn't be stopped, it was like I had found some kind of new purpose, unlocked a power level I never knew that I had.
the thing is that I was good looking, I was fit and well spoken but those years that I was in kind of a psychosis fricked with my maturity. I remember waking up some nights with raging boners but didn't know what to do, I thought jacking off meant I was gay but I had no clue how to approach a woman. I had honestly never touched a woman save for a innocent handshake until that girl (she was 19) got into that bed with me.I wish I had a picture of her but this was the early 1990's. I saw her like three more times and then I had all the confidence in the world and was ready to try another one. Like I said, once I got the hang of it it was like I became an addict. I literally thought after that that I could frick any woman I wanted.
At first it was only loner autists that were virgins
then all autists even those in social hobbies
now they got even the normies...
Holy frick only turbonormies,hang out on the daily are having secs rn,what the hell is next?
High school class: 25 guys, 3 girls
University: 75 guys, 5 girls
Work then: 60 guys, 2 girls
Work now: 10 guys, 0 girls
None of my hobbies, day to day interactions, or work involves girls. Struggling with online dating. Took up dancing but people don't hang out afterwards. Signing up for some sort of coed sport and hope it's better there.
That study is based on the survey results of 12 people. Don't worry too much about it. nuance_enjoyer on twitter if you want to check it out.
Yeah you might be uncommon but hope isn't lost. You guys just gotta keep putting yourselves out there and meeting people.
i don't want to feel shame nor impotence about this anymore, just to be left alone. i will quit my job and find myself a nice little work from home gig or resort to freelancing. i want to stop regretting being born looking the way i do.
>new sturdy
so why dont they link this "sturdy" then, where is it? how was the data collection process? because if its self reported those numbers are wildly inaccurate and would likely be much higher, what guy is in mid 20's is just going to say "yeah ive never had sex" to a random questionnaire
Its underreported
I genuinley believe over 70, maybe 80% of males under 25 are virgins
The hoop race to get laid with some obnoxious 6/19 is too much these days
Agreed,thats a big problem and by the way males work it only makes the problem worse, sure testosterone makes you a horny bastard but 2 things >1 test levels are dropping >2 males are more logical, obviously if you make them choose between working their ass off just to get and maintain a gf/have sex with women vs stress free,total freedom to do whatever they want they are obviously choosing the latter
High school class: 25 guys, 3 girls
University: 75 guys, 5 girls
Work then: 60 guys, 2 girls
Work now: 10 guys, 0 girls
None of my hobbies, day to day interactions, or work involves girls. Struggling with online dating. Took up dancing but people don't hang out afterwards. Signing up for some sort of coed sport and hope it's better there.
difference is i don't even give a shit about online dating or any of that
would be nice to have a female companion however but i also know and understand that nothing will change if i won't do anything about it
You don’t have to believe me but I have genuinely fricked a couple beautiful girls above my league. Just from making them laugh on tinder, dressing well, and then getting them drunk. I’ve fricked some uggos too though I will admit. I am just horny. What can I say I am a human man.
I have had a gf now for two years though.
Anyways, even the shit on the right is a much better existence than being a literal adult virgin. Unless you have like down’s syndrome, cerebral palsy, or you are legit asexual there is no excuse for being a virgin past like 25… that is RIDICULOUS.
no I’m saying if you have working testicles and aren’t a -1/10 you would have fricked an average girl by now. just average. frick’s sake open your eyes
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Born with shitty hormones that heavily predispose to obesity, abused as a child by parents and family, and some level of autism.
Some of us had it bad anon.
I highly doubt your genetics made you obese. It is likely your lifestyle. Quit making excuses for yourself bro you can do it. Women aren’t that tough a nut to crack man. Get in shape rizz them up. Human beings have invented particle colliders and walked on the moon I’m sure you can manage getting your dick wet
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no I’m saying if you have working testicles and aren’t a -1/10 you would have fricked an average girl by now. just average
Not worth the risks, senpai
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Same. I'm 24 and I've ate pussy and gotten a BJ before, but I never rounded home base. Not sure what I'm considered.
Now I'm at the point where I'm not even trying to have sex because I don't see how it could benefit me at all unless I'm in a legitimate relationship. I don't want to catch an STD or get a girl pregnant from a one night stand. But girls these days want to just get dicked down on the first date whereas I want to go slow and actually form a relationship before fricking.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We get it Chad Thunderwiener, destroyer of virgin, deflowerer of maidens. Thank you for blessing us with your presence, please don't frick my mom and my sister with your suave charisma and your eccentric rizz, congrants on that foursome with beyonce and her sisters by the way
Is it really that difficult to accept people have different priorities than you? I've personally had women invite me over to a house date at their place (i. e. pretend you're just hanging out so you can frick "naturally" later) but turned them down because hook ups really don't interest me.
>say you can't have sex >LMAO NO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE SEX YOU JUST DON'T WANT IT ENOUGH >say you haven't had sex because you don't want it bad enough >LMAO NO WHAT A LOSER I BET YOU COULDN'T GET LAID EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO
which is it, menial?
It's a combination of two things:
1. People who genuinely cannot comprehend that others don't value sex and intimacy as much as them for whatever reason. Maybe they're shallow and think that's all that matters, maybe there's other reasons, doesn't matter.
2. People trying to bait and troll, because there DOES exist a percentage of people out there who cope by saying this stuff.
we did it
we're the majority
we're normies now
we're new normal
can you feel the feeling of missing out dissappearing?
I am completely disconnected with Irl woman/girls and I Love 2d girls so much that I don't even care about this things anymore
I Love my waifu
I Love watching anime
I Love hugging my body pillow
I Love thinking about my waifus
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I made one or two half hearted attempts at hooking up when I was young and being dragged along to clubs by my friends
>GO TALK TO HER ANON, HERE, GIVE HER THIS DRINK! >But won't that be weird? >NAH MAN SHE'S BEEN LOOKING YOUR DIRECTION ALL EVENING >Really? >REALLY >*a few short moments later* >Uhhh, h-hi >hi! >uhh... >interesting music huh? >yes >... >a-anyyway I better get back to my friends
It dawned on me pretty soon that the only reason I was out there engaging in the courtship ritual was because I thought I was supposed to. I'd much rather be with my imaginary lovers - they can be conjured up for one very specific purpose and then dismissed from your mind as soon as the orgasm is achieved.
I like women and find them more pleasant to interact with than men, but what do you even do together with a real gf the rest of the day? Wouldn't it be weird for me to sit and play WipEout on the living room TV when there's someone else living with me? I made a choice a long time ago that I will father no children, touch no tiddies, but just coom to the fantasy of anime girls desperate to pee. That's another thing: Most of my fantasies are pretty abstract and wouldn't be sexually stimulating for either of us IRL. In my head, we can both orgasm from her receiving foot rubs. I am now well into wizardhood.
you should be angry not cuck yourself like this. what has happened to the masculine spirit?
>you should be angry not cuck yourself like this.
getting angry does not solve those things I use to get angry because I don't have gf then I realize I am getting angery because I am paying too much attention to /feels/ threads and IRL couples. I just stop giving attention to those things and with that anger and frustration went away and I start like more and more anime girls
10 months ago
Anonymous
getting angry is the path to solve it one way or the other. being content is cucked and pathetic
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I am completely disconnected with Irl woman/girls and I Love 2d girls so much that I don't even care about this things anymore
I Love my waifu
I Love watching anime
I Love hugging my body pillow
I Love thinking about my waifus
I made one or two half hearted attempts at hooking up when I was young and being dragged along to clubs by my friends
>GO TALK TO HER ANON, HERE, GIVE HER THIS DRINK! >But won't that be weird? >NAH MAN SHE'S BEEN LOOKING YOUR DIRECTION ALL EVENING >Really? >REALLY >*a few short moments later* >Uhhh, h-hi >hi! >uhh... >interesting music huh? >yes >... >a-anyyway I better get back to my friends
It dawned on me pretty soon that the only reason I was out there engaging in the courtship ritual was because I thought I was supposed to. I'd much rather be with my imaginary lovers - they can be conjured up for one very specific purpose and then dismissed from your mind as soon as the orgasm is achieved.
I like women and find them more pleasant to interact with than men, but what do you even do together with a real gf the rest of the day? Wouldn't it be weird for me to sit and play WipEout on the living room TV when there's someone else living with me? I made a choice a long time ago that I will father no children, touch no tiddies, but just coom to the fantasy of anime girls desperate to pee. That's another thing: Most of my fantasies are pretty abstract and wouldn't be sexually stimulating for either of us IRL. In my head, we can both orgasm from her receiving foot rubs. I am now well into wizardhood.
tbf depending on how strict their country/state was, if the high schools completely shutdown it fricked the social lives of those who were already on shaky ground
its normal in the sense that we are still openly racist/homophobic and you wont get ostracized for it unless you work in a super libtard office or have a select group of lentsoy drinking homosexual friends which id never subject myself to
basically a lot of the degeneracy i saw when i went to america wasnt applicable here. but we have other types of degeneracy like girls pissing and shitting on the streets (throwback to when i went out with like 10 girls in my teens and they all thought it was a good idea to take a toilet break on the sidewalk/pavement)
also things like street fights, punch ups, etc all really normal when i was growing up. i saw an american video which said it was normal in his FATHERS generation and the guy himself was 33 something. so it seemed weird, even the most onions homosexual i know has punched someone in the face
btw i wasnt chad or popular
i was a very weird guy, didnt have really any friends, even my best friend wanted to hang out with other people when they decided they like him
i sometimes think maybe because one of those girls was meant for him to frick and i took her (not snake him or anything i had low self esteem, i wasnt running any game they just chose me and undressed me), idk if he even ever lost his virginity
there's absolutely no way only 1.9% over 25 are virgins.
blog time: I'm average+ looking and social moronation could easily have rendered me a virgin at 25+. I've only had sex with one girl and kissed one other. the girl I had sex with was a total bawd so she made things babby mode easy for me. take 100 guys like me and play through their lives with different RNG and I think most of them end up virgins over 25.
... then again maybe most of them are Chadlites and I'm in the rare failure timeline because of some improbable events in my childhood I don't even remember lmao
>be 20 kissless virgin >by chance meet a nice looking single mom, part native american part Fillipina >become friends, thinks she likes me >start spending a lot of time with her, thinking this might be the one >helping her out with some expenses, treating her to nice things
You all know where this is going
>one night she mentions that she misses going out with her friends >offer to babysit her kids so she can go out, accepts >comes home at 230am with some random dude while I'm sleeping on the couch >they go into her bedroom, he fricks her and leaves 15 minutes later >stuns >she showers and comes out to talk "thanks anon, I needed that >speechless >knock on the door >it's some other dude she she's also been fricking, I didn't even know about him >he fricks her and leaves about 30 minutes later
I was really hurt, what a dumb naive frick I was. I wanted to kill her but I just left. She called me and was like "well you know we're just friends!" I still had this ideal that women were queens and you had to take things slow when you were serious.
Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I was forced to look in the mirror and I realized I was a fricking dork. I was skinny fat and I had no style. Started going to the gym, got a part time job to save some extra money, when I got into good shape I learned how to dress, learned proper hygiene and became determined. I eventually started meeting girls and after a few awkward encounters I got it down. Things aren't hopeless, you just have to do the work if you want the pussy
Ugh I've been through some similar shit, though it wasn't this bad (I'm 28 though).
1) Made out with a girl only for her to bail on me and go home with a different guy.
2) Spend the entire night clubbing with a girl I thought I had a good vibe with, but at the end she texted her Tinder fwb. He showed up and they left together.
3) Another story like 1), but this one had a bf (but she went home with another guy). She was hella fat. She must've felt great toying around with 3 guys at once.
Gym seems to work though. Women seem to show more interest with me for every BF% I manage to lose. I'm currently at 18-19% (started at 40+ lol imagine).
Pathetic incel thread. If you cant get girls youre either socially inept or have unrealistically high standards or youre one of those weirdos who think women will approach you if youre fit enough (they wont). Ive seen 300lb ugly mexican dudes with decently hot gfs. You can make it just go outside lmao
I didn't lose my virginity until 26. I'm now 30 and women my age are much more interested in me than they were 5 years ago but I just can't accept them when I know they wouldn't have dated me when I was younger. I'll either find a younger wife or I'll just MGTOW.
I'm tall and fit btw, my problem was that I wasn't assertive enough even though I did take some initiative. Women are sexist hypocrites
>had my first blatant direct sexual experience at 12 years old >didn't have PIV sex until 26
the ego boost from having girls flirt with me and, at most, give me a handjob, was all i needed
i reclined into the coomer lifestyle because i felt satisfied with who i was as an individual despite never having real sex
then i found a decent waifu and started fricking
When I was in HS this taller than me tomboy was very obviously into me and I pretended not to notice. I'm still a virgin at 33 and I consider it divine punishment
You know when you see news about attractive female teacher caught "raping" a teen boy and getting in trouble, and you think "that's not rape, he wanted it", "nice", "I wish I had teachers like that when I was in school".
Well, teen girls are exactly the same, they also want older men. They want to be fricked by hot teacher. Next time you hear about a male teacher "raping" a female teen student, know she wanted it and feels lucky and other girls are jealous. This one reason why 50% of 18 year old boys are virgins, the girls are fricking older guys as 18 year old boys look like little immature spotty broccoli headed kids which is not attractive.
Word. My housemate says it was pretty common at her HS (some girls sleeping with the hot teachers). Was it considered inappropriate? Yes, but definitely not rape lol.
I think the rise in virginity is directly coorelated with the rise of obesity. 30 years ago there were frick tons of ok and cute girls who wouldnt catch the eye of more attractive dudes who had the giga stacies. Except now that cushion of cute girls with good personalities all became obese and entitled
30. I checked out years ago when I realized my dating options were >Burned out bawd wanting to settle down >Fat chicks >Single moms
Now even the fat chicks are racking up high bodycounts. I just asked myself if I really wanted to jump through a bunch of hoops just to put up with that, the thing is I don't gel with these people anyway so it takes active effort to pretend to care about their interests and it's time spent not doing the things I enjoy. I can't really conenct with them,I unironically only find connections with anons on here, everyone else just feels strange. If you want a romantic, intimate relationship it's just not an option in our time period, the sooner you recognize that the sooner you can focus on other thigns that will actually bear fruit that makes you happy.
>. I just asked myself if I really wanted to jump through a bunch of hoops just to put up with that, the thing is I don't gel with these people anyway so it takes active effort to pretend to care about their interests and it's time spent not doing the things I enjoy. I can't really conenct with them,I unironically only find connections with anons on here, everyone else just feels strange. If you want a romantic, intimate relationship it's just not an option in our time period, the sooner you recognize that the sooner you can focus on other thigns that will actually bear fruit that makes you happy.
Are you me? I do find connections via my hobbies at meetups. I just have so many other things I prefer doing.
I guess it depends on hobbies, stuff like the gym isn't where you go to talk to people, martial arts is guys only, hiking you do alone, guitar you can do alone, videogames alone, reading alone, etc. The social hobbies imo are just classes you would go to to learn things, people whose hobby is going clubbing or something just don't appeal to me.
I meant more like you do a hobby that isn't inherently social, but sometimes meetup together with other hobbiest.
The goal isn't to be social, those are stereotypically women's hobbies or sports. My goal is to learn or see more things IRL, and talk to people with knowledge or different perspectives.
Like an anime con, car/motorcycle meet, mountain bike race/clubs, paintball, etc.
Of course if they don't appeal then don't go. I only go maybe once a month.
I’m 25 and have never even kissed a girl. In fact I haven’t ever had a conversation with a girl my age for longer than a few minutes due to not having any female friends in high school, never having had a job, and becoming a recluse once high school ended.
On our way to Iraq, we got some leave so my squad went to Atlantic City to do some degenerate shit. Somewhere along the way, through the haze of booze and debauchery, we found out one of our boys was a virgin. Not about to let him die for ZOG without fixing that, we seek out the nearest pimp and get him to show us his wares. I pick a cute strung out white girl and money changes hands. We bust into the motel room later on to see how things are progressing only to find a 300 lb negress atop my friend. I go to extract my money from said pimp and get an uzi put in my face. Armed with only a pocket knife, I decided to fight another day. Those Black folks are slippery, I tell you. My friend is an high ranking officer now and still has a huge negress fetish. I mean that both his fetish and the negresses are huge. We have photographic evidence.
I was 11 when I lost mine to a 15 year old girl, shagged her regularly for 18 months. I’m Gen X though, everything that came after us was fricking pathetic
I am not even a wizard yet, but I have attained incredible arcane power. I will only keep going. Sexhavers take an early exit on the journey towards gnosis.
31 and a kissless virgin. Never been on a date. Never asked a girl out. Barely even have had conversations with girls in my life. Complete and utter loser in the rest of my life. The thought of having sex, kissing a girl, or going on a date absolutely terrifies me because I will expose my pathetic life and also my complete lack of experience in doing anything. I will never do any of these things. Every passing day bring me the hope that eventually I will get the courage to commit suicide.
>30 years old >never had sex, barely any dates and they never go anywhere anyway >have no standards, find literally 80-90% of women between teenage years and their 40s to be cute >never speak to anyone and barely even make eye contact >constantly annoyed by women especially their high pitched annoying voices and unlike most normal guys I can't overcome that annoyance to feign interest >ride the subway every day for many years, constantly see the same girls/women I ride with for 30+ minutes, see girls/women who get off at my stop meaning they live somewhere in my vicinity, yet have never spoken to a single other person in all these years
put a bullet through my brain .please i beg you.
im 29, have a bodycount of 40, numerous ltrs. it's just not hard lol. like anything it requires practice and you won't get it right first time. you can escape this
just practice man. get tinder, get some good pics, or hinge or whatever and go on dates even if it's like... not a girl you're crazy about just for practice, frankly. find out how to make girls comfortable, how to have a ncie date, shit like that, how to chat.
location plays a massive part as well. I moved cities in my mid 20s (am 29 now). the amount of sex I had significantly increased after moving.
I was so down about being unwanted in the city I was born & bred in and I thought that it'd be the same wherever I went
>just practice man. get tinder, get some good pics, or hinge or whatever and go on dates even if it's like... not a girl you're crazy about just for practice, frankly. find out how to make girls comfortable, how to have a ncie date, shit like that, how to chat.
Where I live, we don't really use dating apps. I've always backed out of dating girls usually because I didn't find them pretty enough. But I did get some experience on talking and texting with girls. I just didn't do anything sexual. Idk how to proceed to the sexual stuff.
is that how you do it? Also during normal dates like just grabbing coffee or whatever, whats a good way to initiate physical contact, perhaps get kisses? I'm good at talking but I totally forget to do the physical contact lol.
10 months ago
Anonymous
look tbh i've been pretty blunt and just been like 'come over lol' via tinder and ti's often worked. don't be too pushy, just go in for a cuddle or some shit as you say hi/bye i guess. just have a chat, the second/third date is typically when that is or isn't on the table
10 months ago
Anonymous
yea i guess it really is that simple. Thanks for the tips. I was being a frickin weirdo shaking girls hands when i said hi/bye.
Wizard, here.
Not sure how to give you an answer that isn't a blog post.
My guess is we're all just "perfect storm" frick-ups with a lot of boring minutia to our cases.
How is that possible? You were bullied into oblivion if you were a virgin at 18 back in my day. What the frick is happening with zoomers? Their girls are the easiest ever, yet the boys can't get laid for some reason.
t. 32yo fricking nothing but zoomer girls for the last few years
>Drunk hot girls from tinder, nerdy slampigs, hookers
if you chase sex as some biological process akin to eating or shitting then it's not that hard, clearly it didn't mean anything if you were willing to stick your dick in anything but if you're looking for actual intimacy then yes it's harder. you sound no different than girls on twitter posting a looksmatch couple going "what's your excuse incel?" "just be confident". like
https://i.imgur.com/OEkblv9.jpg
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Wizard, here.
Not sure how to give you an answer that isn't a blog post.
My guess is we're all just "perfect storm" frick-ups with a lot of boring minutia to our cases.
says if you're here and not totally reprehensible chances are you're just fricked up in some type of neurotic way.
I get that some people just aren't interested in sex, but that's probably due to low testosterone levels. I'll be honest and say most of the 30ish girls I've fricked have been 6/10s, but I am so god damn horny all the time, I would kill myself if I never got laid. It's literally priority number one in my monkey brain. After studying the sexual marketplace for a while, it's become obvious that the environment is EXTREMELY competitive for men. You basically need to be in the top 10% of men to get laid regularly and even higher to have autonomy while doing it. There are some beta men having sex but the vegana they have access too doesn't respect them and runs their lives.
I second this. Natty test levels are 600 ng/dl and I don't feel like fricking girls that are less than a 7/10. Took steroids and then all of the sudden I wanted to frick all women.
>You basically need to be in the top 10% of men to get laid regularly and even higher to have autonomy while doing it.
this
social media boosted their egos to the moon. had 12 relationships by now. I ended all of them in less than a week because they don't respect my authority. no, I won't go for submissive asians, they got small ass and down syndrome face
So all the OG IST incels back in 2007 that kept saying 80% of men would be incels and then the government would try to brainwash them into cutting their dicks off to solve the problem and people said they were crazy tinfoil were right all along?
I don't know if I'm just imagining it because you're saying it but I feel like I remember people saying things like that back in the days where troony meant someone like linetrap and not someone like chrischan.
Did any anon even know about the links between trannies and autism and autogynephilia that far back?
I suspect I might have some sort of an autism or aspergers.
I'm 30, KSV, and so far in my life at no point I've had any kind of desire to be in relationship or to date.
Most people seem to naturally gravitate towards it - it being something they want, but I don't.
This is not some sort of an incel cope. I genuinely cannot think of a reason why I'd want it, besides maybe experiencing sex.
Prostitution is legal here, every year I think I'll maybe use it, but even that seems less interesting than other things in life like lifting and running.
All in all, I think it's not something unnatural. Genetic dead ends are not uncommon in nature.
to all virgins. its not worth the effort to just lose it to a random girl u dont care for. for her its just another day on the wiener carousel. U need to frick someone u care about or else fapping mogs it
>tfw in the 1.9%
My fellow 25-30virginchads, how are you all doing on this fine day?
Living the dream
Today was a good day. Made some decent money in the stock market. Can't complain. Hopefully within a year it can buy me a gf so I won't have to be a wizard.
Pretty good
Bretty good. I'm almost a wizard. Girls have been interested in me before but I never go further with them. The last girl that I was seriously talking to, I ghosted. kek.
chillin rn
Not too bad. Guess who isn't getting any pussy?
This guy...
1.9 sounds really low
I think it's perfectly average. Maybe even a little high.
Nothing sadder than incels in denial
Literally no way that 1.9% number is correct. Maybe self reported, even then it's surprisingly low.
anon it's not like you can unvirgin yourself. It only makes sense as time goes, virginity goes down.
Also, I don't know if you're just not in that age range yet anon, but 25-30 is when the women realize time is ticking and pick their long haul man. Those men are getting fricked by that point.
Agree with other anon, there’s no way that 98% of virgin 20 yo men(give or take), are having sex in that five year window. Kids go to college at 18-19. If they don’t have sex 1-2 years into that I see no reason why such an overwhelming amount would have sex 20-25.
It's true, though. The betas don't get laid in the initial wave of sexhaving. They pick up the scraps once the prostitutes are starting to get burned out, get on the pill and look for a beta to cozy up to. Many guys don't go to grad school but find a job, at which point some prostitute is likely to try and mooch off them (if they're not commited autismos like me).
This is what happened to pretty much everyone in my class at engineering school. They found fat gfs around 3rd year or later, as they started finding jobs in industry.
It looks about right to me. I rarely see 30 year old virgins.
2 more years brah
26 yo kissless virgin mommys boy NEET checking in. my mommy is unironically my best friend.
fricking hell I don't know if I should be laughing or crying anymore
What about dudes 21-24?
Sounds like bullshit tbh.
How are these things even measured?
They're not. It's self-reported so if anything it's likely higher but, it's still not reliable.
>likely higher
Lower* only a perma virgin would take the time to answer landline/online surveys about how much of a virgin he really is
it might be from regular chekups, they ask if you're a virgin for some reason
Possibly, I'm not going to read an article or whatever because lol, but in college many surveys had some kind if incentive and all sorts of people would show up.
cope
People who are actual longterm virgins are unlikely to answer these surveys at all, the number is higher. The survey however misses on the "had sex once with a fat chick then never scored again" types, since men are moronic and will place a premium on 'losing' their virginity, but have no plan to take their sex life further from there.
It reminds me of that one manga where the Japanese government was forcing virgins to breed because they were exploding or something, then one guy fricked a 70 year old woman and thought he was cool- but all of the sex-havers at school made fun of him for being a gilffricker anyway.
Defining yourself by the needs and standards of others is moronic, you should have sex to relieve stress when you can with someone you are physically attracted to- rather than fricking a fat chick to 'break a dry spell' or 'lose your virginity', too many men on IST go insane and inject their penis with roids to become the ultimate lifter to impress women who don't exist and men who don't care.
>People who are actual longterm virgins are unlikely to answer these surveys at all, the number is higher.
Why? Everyone online loves to play the victim and cry about their virginity, i agree with the guy you replied to.
they do anonymously. do you call everyone Black person offline too? laughable cope
>measured
they're not measuring, they're reporting
>tfw doctor measured my dick and laughed at me for being a incel
Bros... it's over. Do you think if I do creatine I can leave humanity behind and get a qt 3.14 gf?
This.
Also, if you were an adult virgin, would you willingly tell someone that?
Most men would lie about being a virgin
Its like all studies printed in the media these days. All made up
They suck and frick guys and if the guys aren't doing it properly, the scientist dudes ask them if the guy's a virgin
>25-30 1.9% are virgins
Haha
I'm always in the top few %
tfw unironically voluntarily a wizard
>voluntarily
okay big guy
I lost my virginity at 18 and I feel like that isn't weird, maybe change the age range to 19-21 and also compare with 19-21 from 10 or 15 years ago, not actual 30 year old wizards (rare)
>21 this december
>starting final year of uni in 2 months
>still havent talked to a single woman on campus and will probably complete the 3 year streak
owari da
I had a similar experience where there were pretty much no women in any of my classes since apparently economics is pussy repellent. Didn't help that I'd either completed all my core classes in high school or did them online.
If it matters a lot to you then you should go for it immediately and aggressively. When I was in college I had a girl in senior year who was into me but I didn't go for her because I told IST I felt like I needed to focus on my studies. I always remember people on IST being like "yeah bro finish up". In hindsight I wish someone had told me to go for it because sex in collegia can sometimes be self-defining. At least you should attempt to go for it, so you can say in a few years "yeah I didn't get sexo, but at least I tried and didn't pass up on girls trying to fricko my dicko".
> but at least I tried and didn't pass up on girls trying to fricko my dicko".
Not that anon, but man I find it hard. I just fundamentally don't understand and somehow can't accept why they don't approach US if they're so interested. I've had girls who will stare at me every day in class at uni, literally just fricking stare, and then do nothing at all. Why is it our burden to say anything? Why can't they be sensible people and just say hi?
I get it, complaining about it won't change that our society says it's my job to approach, but somehow still it frustrates me to no end. It's a mental block.
>Why is it our burden
Because society babies women intensely and women like the power of being able to turn men down. The incel 'epidemic', besides the disgusting amount of fat chicks, comes directly from phone apps where women can just ghost men without saying no. Most women are fricking cowards and have a hard time saying no if asked in person (hence all those 'feminists' seething about "men pressuring them" because women have zero balls) but ultimately when given the choice women will play hard to get and then you get millions of cat ladies complaining they're 44 and can't find a good man. Because they are stupid and this country is stupid.
>women have zero balls
>I've had girls who will stare at me every day in class at uni, literally just fricking stare, and then do nothing at all.
And then you think about them all week and then also do absolutely nothing at all. Turn the mirror on yourself.
>And then you think about them all week and then also do absolutely nothing at all. Turn the mirror on yourself.
I do not, no, as I'm a very busy man to the point of being overwhelmed a tad. I've approached women and been on dates before.
Why would you automatically assume such a thing? And even if it were true, that doesn't even remotely negate anything I said.
What you're saying doesn't add up. If you're comfortable approaching girls, and telling me that you have girls at uni that you're 100% sure are into you, then why not just approach?
I blame porn addiction from a young age
Porn is the devil
I watched plenty of porn when I was in my early 20s and still smashed every weekend. 30+ body count at least and I’m very average looking.
It’s so easy especially with dating apps. Like you have to be completely socially moronic or straight up hideous with high standards to be left in the dust on something as arbitrary as pussy.
I don’t think you understand. Zoomer shave been zapping their brains with 4k fetish porn on their smartphones since they were literally children. That shit fricks with your psyche.
Sex is awesome, I don’t care if some neurotic desert israelites say it’s le bad
You were successful enough to have friends and social circle. I imagine most of the old adult virgins are lacking more than just sex.
How does it feel knowing you were spoonfed everything in life like a baby and never had to work that hard?
It was easy like 10 years ago. What are you going to do now, go on a dating app and have some 30yo bawd single mom try to get you to be her kid's dad? After 25 the women become really fricking awful on those apps, all of them are people who should know better. It literally only works if you're in college and she's in college and there's just sex, no pressure or weird ulterior motives.
>im average
>it's easy with dating apps
this is a glaring contradiction. average men get 0 action from dating apps. just a reminder when a sex haver is saying he's average this is what he means: sex every weekend from tinder. only chad can do this
Doubt it I started watching porn at 8 and lost my virginity at 14
But did you try to get girls at 14? or did the girl literally come begging for your wiener?
>50% are virgins before 20
>Only 2% are virgins after 25
what the FRICK happens between 20-25
Its bullshit its way higher
government pussy gibs
Anything. For me it was an escort two days ago a few weeks after I turned 23. I also now feel like I’ve been activated and can use my looks finally.
What do you feel has changed with you?
Is there something new within, or you lost something that was holding you back?
I literally couldn’t imagine having my first time with a rando girl, Id be terrified. It turns out I was right. If I were to act the way I did initially with a normal girl, it would’ve been over/did I even have the capability to get that far anyways? Also threw a lot of illusions out the window.
how vile
>paid for sex
unironically doesn't count
nta what about kings who had harems by the time they were 13, would you say that doesn't count?
It's using a cheatcode and you are back at step 1 in terms of a real relationship, but you get to see the ending and a little experience that way so some day you might do it legit.
Oh well. I’m still probably better looking and more intelligent than you. I just don’t have a GF at this point, I did it because it was affecting my mental at my job, which takes care of me incredibly well (because I’m good looking and charismatic. But that turns off around girls I’m attracted to)
checked but wrong. it just shows that losing virginity isn't important, rather it is the ability to get a girlfriend/mate.
even that, why should I care about getting a girlfriend/mate?
There are degenerate criminals, drug addicts, and losers who have girlfriends. Are you saying they're better than me just because they have a girlfriend?
yeah
They have more reproductive success, which is the point of your life, so yes
Life is temporary I will have a glorified body for eternity while they burn in hell forever
Yes
Doesn’t make you not a loser. But it might improve your technical skills.
You commit to lying,duh
the betabuxx effect kicks in
plus being a male virgin over 25 is extremely embarrassing to normies so dudes just lie lol
nothing, girls that age are hooking up with guys 26+ because they have money, status, and don’t need to put in the same work a young man needs to
no clue still virgin at 31
By then you should be able to find some college girl who'll frick you, or you start getting money and independence which increases your chances
>have career
>have house
>in shape from 12 years of workingout
Bitches don't care, and many laugh about me not being able to drive at 28.
Not a virgin though, but it's over embellished how women respond to financial successful men. They see it as their right to have access to these men.
My neet friend still fricks more than I do because he is ridiculously confident.
My other friend whom is similar to me, career wise (but in uni debt) and lives in apartment in London does ok, but still nowhere near as good as my fat neet friend, who isn't even that attractive (facially) but just knows his target market and has the gift of the gab.
Any man with the confidence to speak to strangers in public who is virgin 25+ has committed to lying about it.
I have no need to lie about it because nobody ever thinks to bring it up. The last time I was asked was by a high school friend I met 7 years ago. I lied then but only because I knew he'd feel bad for me.
The majority of neets over 25 who have not fricked are unlikely to answer an unpaid survey admitting they have not fricked.
This website begs to differ.
most surveys are not as anonymous as they claim
>oh fill that out i promise i won't look inside
You start tapping into the mine of daddy issues girls that refuse to frick anyone unless there's a 7 year age gap minimum.
I swear just being 25 made it a magic number for women's attention, nothing else about me changed.
>I’m now a minority because I fricked one (1) girl
Feels bad man
Because you're not missing out much.
There's a reason why all spiritual teachings go against sex, because it's a waste of time.
Also, have you achieved independence? Of some sort at least.
>There's a reason why all spiritual teachings go against sex
>he doesn't know about every religion's mysticism branch
>all the horny average/hot girls go frick chads
>nonchad males are left with porn, ugly b***hes, and fat whales
>nonchads only get hot girls after they hit the wall and want betabuxx
cruel world
How is nonchads (not hot guys) being left with not hot girls a cruel world? That's perfectly just.
If you have all the tools in the world to be a chad and you just don't become one for whatever reason, that's 100% your fault and you get what you deserve.
because chads are horny dogs and steal girls far below their league from dudes
women never looksmatch, they always punch up, and the chads let them get away with it
>incel cope
Heard it all before anon. Get new material.
I can't speak for every last "chad" out there but I for one have never gone slumming and "stolen" your 3s and 4s. Why the frick would I?
cope
>literal stats
>incel cope
pick one moron
Chad will FRICK the 7/10 average girl, but he won't commit to her.
Chads aren't stealing average girls from average guys, they just use them for sex ocassionally
counter-argument: after a 7/10 has had Chad or even more than one Chad she gets an inflated sense of her own attractiveness. she now thinks she's out of a 7/10 man's league. and the fact that Chad wouldn't commit to her? rationalized away pretty easily. she figures she just has to have sex with more Chads and eventually one of them will stick around. so 7/10 girl keeps """dating""" Chads while 7/10 guy has to either settle for less or become volcel.
>7/10 average girl
buh... 5 is average. 7 is above average
yes but those average girls are all chasing after chad asking him to commit when they're 37 with a body count of 50 chads they start to wise up and realise he won't commit. They then pick a beta who got no play during his 20s and worked hard, the type of guy she would have never looked at before. He then marries this roastie and she pops out 1 or 2 of his kids (they're actually chad's). He pays for her and chad's kid's entire lives. Even if she is caught and they divorce she gets the kids, house, alimony and child support. As a women you can't lose.
also
>7/10 average girl
lol
just dont be that moronic beta dude who marries a roastie, duuh.
>women never looksmatch, they always punch up, and the chads let them get away with it
yes, but those women are getting a relationship with Chad, they're getting fricked. Women want relationships
"chad" just tells them what they want to hear you homosexual instead of what you autists think "chad" would say to a woman its pretty simple incels never learn tho
not hot guys can just mean not tall or an unfortunate facial structure. not hot woman almost always means fat, 95% of women are attractive when they aren't lard
What about 30+? Asking for a gymbro
>wages are shit, so a lot of men aren't economically viable
>no one can afford rent, so we have to move back into our parents homes
unrestrained capitalism is unironically creating incels
tbh my first time was when i was 20
kind late i guess but now that i'm 30 it doesn't even matter
i should've married that girl too, she was a saint compared to what came next
Mt first time was 21 so I guess that tracks. Don't feel bad about it either, we got married and it's been great.
I'm 34 in the 1.9% it's truly joever
You also can't read apparently
Oops. Surely virgin % is even lower above 30?
No bro it's called the "old loser" valley. Virgin % drops drastically after 30 cuz all the losers who couldn't get laid before 30 suddenly turn into chads and get laid daily.
I realized I'm being an butthole to a fellow virginchad. I would like to apologize
these numbers are way higher in reality
>self reported
so it's actually 65-70% of young men who are virgins. I'm glad normies are suffering, I've been seeing a lot more women hate online lol. Why don't they take the same advice they were giving incels all those years? Just take a shower and be confident broo
It's quite funny watching zoomers be so pathetic, it's justice that normies who hated autists now all have the same behavior. Even funnier though are those incel hating guys who go on about being nice and shit and "having a personality" yet they have no gf
Who's suffering? Sex havers will burn in hell for fornication. It's literally written in the bible. I bet you almost all of these havers aren't even married.
You are brown.
I dieted and exercised my ass off for the sole reason of getting laid, and it didn't help.
I'm devastated.
You were supposed to have sex in high school anon. Imagine missing out on teenage love
autism debuff, gotta grind charisma, neurotypical normies will never understand
Word. Women often say I'm cute or sweet, but that's not getting me anywhere. Only men hit on me. I swear to fricking god recently I ordered some fries at a snack bar and the dude behind the counter said "you can have me with the menu as well". This shit is creeping me out.
>"you can have me with the menu as well"
gays have W rizz
Stop speaking like a moron
I got to 1/2/3/4 and a really hot young girl seduced me and took my v card at 33 despite my tism, she even said it was because I looked strong. Keep lifting bros.
>new sturdy
I lost mine at 16, social media was just starting to materialize at the time.
i'm 25 and noticed that getting girls became substantially more difficult as social media started to propagate
i think it was around 2013 or 2014? whenever the hot party normies started uploading selfies onto instagram and getting tons of likes was when things shifted
Idk, I've been out of commission for 3 years following a long term relationship breakup right before the 'rona. I have some stuff to sort out in my life first. Had a couple of girls in this period I think were interested, but nothing ever materialized as I don't pursue. I am absolutely not going to do the online dating thing.
Used to be at the start of all this that people posting everything they do on social media were considered weird, now it's normalized and you have people becoming mentally ill. The vanity and hollowness thoroughly disgusts me.
Something like that. It was around then also or maybe a little before that sjwism became super militant that if you said hello to a girl at school or at work and she didn't like you and wanted attention that would essentially be it, you'd be expelled/fired and put in prison.
Yea thats the turning point around 2012ish. Thats when the sjw tumblr feminist bullshit was really starting to take off and bleed through into real life. Instagram and Snapchat and shit were also blowing up.
22 KHV here, any fellow 22 y.o virgins?
Checking in
Will be one in a month and a half
I lost my virginity at 22 and I've been a sex haver ever since
how where
I am 24 and I got a blowjob from a girl I e-dated 5 years ago, but I haven't been intimate with a woman since.
Does that count? Am I virgin?
>got a blowjob
>girl I e-dated
He means they larped a blowjob online. She described how she did it and he described how it felt.
Plot twist: It was actually a 44 year old indian man catfishing him.
Same. I'm 24 and I've ate pussy and gotten a BJ before, but I never rounded home base. Not sure what I'm considered.
Now I'm at the point where I'm not even trying to have sex because I don't see how it could benefit me at all unless I'm in a legitimate relationship. I don't want to catch an STD or get a girl pregnant from a one night stand. But girls these days want to just get dicked down on the first date whereas I want to go slow and actually form a relationship before fricking.
>Now I'm at the point where I'm not even trying to have sex because I don't see how it could benefit me at all unless I'm in a legitimate relationship
do you not have a sex drive? the idea of putting your dick inside a woman isn’t appealing enough?
>scared of std or pregnancy
you can’t use a condom? is this fear really so big that you would avoid sex through so much of your adult life?
some of you guys are so bizarre to me
Oh, I absolutely have a sex drive, I'm just (probably) autistic and the logic doesn't make sense. Having sex will feel great for a moment, but the consequences of it logically outweigh the non-existent benefits. And condoms don't work %100 of the time. If I'm just fricking a girl in a one night stand, then I'm just using her for her body to get myself off. No different than fricking a damp, microwaved, rolled up towel and I can't get towel pregnant, get AIDS from a towel or have the towel accuse me of rape.
If I am going to have sex with a woman, I want to actually love her. When you're getting intimate with a woman, it's completely different and much more fulfilling if you actually love her rather than having met her that night off a dating app.
I understand. My little bro is autistic and he is very analytic/literal about things in a similar way. Do what makes sense to you.
All I can say is this, the consequences of a sexual encounter aren’t as grave as you’re making them out to be. You are probably building this anxiety up in your head. I know many, many, many sexually active people who are STD free. Condoms can break but they really do work. Birth control works. Women accusing you of rape because of a one night stand? That is pretty much an imaginary scenario created by an anxious mind that spends a lot of time on the internet.
Plus, it's just so annoying seducing a girl as is. If I'm going to do so, I want it to start an actual relationship. I can easily fake interest in a girl and say the right things she wants to hear to get her in bed, but frick, it's so tiring and annoying. I don't want to be a man-prostitute, either. I want a woman I can love, someone I can relate to. I don't want to have sex, I want to make love.
You have to start by going on some dates and seeing what is out there. A random woman isn’t gonna show up at your doorstep begging to get engaged. Being a man is all about going and finding it.
Yeah, that's what I did from 20-23. All I learned is that quality girls are not on dating apps. I'm in a small town in Texas and I don't really know where good girls my age are at. I'm legitimately thinking of going to church again just to meet non-loose women.
There's this problem with ugly people that isn't really discussed here... Even if you as an ugly person somehow manage to get a girlfriend, the thing is that the relationship probably won't last very long. Today's dating market basically means you have to go through many girlfriends before you get lucky and settle down. So if you struggle to get one gf, how are you gonna get the next ones after you break up with that first one? It's insane.
I'm 25 and never even held hands with a girl. I guess I need to find an escort to take my virginity before my birthday
When I was like 6 I got a girl to show me her pussy under the lunch table. Does that count?
31 years old virgin that stat is bullshit. Or maybe it goes with height, as long as you are below 1,70 you are a virgin
>young male
Fricking homosexuals. I'm a 45 year old virgin. I was a permavirgin before it was cool.
I've always been nervous about approaching women but the few times I've done it in my life it was usually successful so I don't know why I have so many hangups about it.
I blame my undiagnosed ADHD/autism. Rejection sensitive dysphoria is real in people with ADHD. I really should call and get that examination done.
if you make it past high school without getting laid you should be castrated twice
Take a look in the mirror bro. You were getting laid in highschool with ease apparently and yet you ended up here on IST. They're improving, you're going backwards, who has the better long-term prospects?
me still kek they are improving to what 40 year old virgins kek go back to /LULZ/
I didn't get laid until I was 21, never jerk offd until after I got laid. I went through some trauma right as I hit puberty, was malnourished and had terrible acne due to stress. Halfway through my junior year in high school I started coming out of it, started playing sports, eating better, put on healthy wait and my acne cleared up but I was WAY behind socially. I joined the service and continue to mature physically but was still clueless about women. One night I was in bed and my roomie came home from the club with a couple of girls. One asked if she could sleep in my bed, I said sure. She wasn't bad looking but I turned my back to her and was laying on my side. She had stripped totally nude and was rubbing herself against my back. I literally started shaking so she stopped. The next morning I told her I was a virgin. She told me to relax and started stroking me. I eventually calmed down, got hard and she gave me a blow job. It was the first time I'd ever cum besides a few wet dreams. I was still hard so she rode me and I came again in like a minute. After that I couldn't be stopped, it was like I had found some kind of new purpose, unlocked a power level I never knew that I had.
Thats some bizarro shit right there son,you can proudly say you lived a weird life.
Neither normie neither sperg but some mad scientist mix.
the thing is that I was good looking, I was fit and well spoken but those years that I was in kind of a psychosis fricked with my maturity. I remember waking up some nights with raging boners but didn't know what to do, I thought jacking off meant I was gay but I had no clue how to approach a woman. I had honestly never touched a woman save for a innocent handshake until that girl (she was 19) got into that bed with me.I wish I had a picture of her but this was the early 1990's. I saw her like three more times and then I had all the confidence in the world and was ready to try another one. Like I said, once I got the hang of it it was like I became an addict. I literally thought after that that I could frick any woman I wanted.
>I thought jacking off meant I was gay
Fellas, is this the key to nofap?
>castrating 90% of men
im sure this will go well in your moronic scenario's economy
>tfw 6 months until the 40 year old virgin meme becomes real
good luck, hope you can keep the women away until then
stay strong
How haven't you roped yet? Just being a wizard makes me consider it daily.
At first it was only loner autists that were virgins
then all autists even those in social hobbies
now they got even the normies...
Holy frick only turbonormies,hang out on the daily are having secs rn,what the hell is next?
kek how do you not talk to girls they are everywhere
High school class: 25 guys, 3 girls
University: 75 guys, 5 girls
Work then: 60 guys, 2 girls
Work now: 10 guys, 0 girls
None of my hobbies, day to day interactions, or work involves girls. Struggling with online dating. Took up dancing but people don't hang out afterwards. Signing up for some sort of coed sport and hope it's better there.
That study is based on the survey results of 12 people. Don't worry too much about it. nuance_enjoyer on twitter if you want to check it out.
Yeah you might be uncommon but hope isn't lost. You guys just gotta keep putting yourselves out there and meeting people.
rare whitepill post
>le whitepill
he literally just lied to you kek, the study is of university students and post graduates with sample over 1000
i don't want to feel shame nor impotence about this anymore, just to be left alone. i will quit my job and find myself a nice little work from home gig or resort to freelancing. i want to stop regretting being born looking the way i do.
why do i get the feeling you guys are trying to make me feel bad
Incels don't speak for me. Stfu
>new sturdy
so why dont they link this "sturdy" then, where is it? how was the data collection process? because if its self reported those numbers are wildly inaccurate and would likely be much higher, what guy is in mid 20's is just going to say "yeah ive never had sex" to a random questionnaire
you can use keywords included in the post to find the study in 10sec of googling but you don't actually care about the source do you?
Its underreported
I genuinley believe over 70, maybe 80% of males under 25 are virgins
The hoop race to get laid with some obnoxious 6/19 is too much these days
>I genuinley believe over 70, maybe 80% of males under 25 are virgins
maybe in japan. it's definitely not that much in US
Agreed,thats a big problem and by the way males work it only makes the problem worse, sure testosterone makes you a horny bastard but 2 things
>1 test levels are dropping
>2 males are more logical, obviously if you make them choose between working their ass off just to get and maintain a gf/have sex with women vs stress free,total freedom to do whatever they want they are obviously choosing the latter
>mfw had sex in the last 2 years
nothing personnel normies.
Jej
I always knew that I would reach the 0.1%
>36
33 here,at least i'm in the 1% in something
Greetings fellow wizard. Want to join me on a quest? Want to share your tragic story?
something like this
difference is i don't even give a shit about online dating or any of that
would be nice to have a female companion however but i also know and understand that nothing will change if i won't do anything about it
https://twitter.com/nuance_enjoyer/status/1681561552762306563 I want to believe this
>2010-2012
So what? It's probably only gotten worse by now. Especially with COVID.
I'm 32 and a virgin, ask me anything
Virgins of IST: you may have missed on on sex, but you still haven’t missed out on chainlink.
This is your ONE (1) warning.
dude on the right is essentially you
You don’t have to believe me but I have genuinely fricked a couple beautiful girls above my league. Just from making them laugh on tinder, dressing well, and then getting them drunk. I’ve fricked some uggos too though I will admit. I am just horny. What can I say I am a human man.
I have had a gf now for two years though.
Anyways, even the shit on the right is a much better existence than being a literal adult virgin. Unless you have like down’s syndrome, cerebral palsy, or you are legit asexual there is no excuse for being a virgin past like 25… that is RIDICULOUS.
>I have genuinely fricked a couple beautiful girls above my league
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you to stop replying uggo
>there is no excuse for being a virgin past like 25
Sex is an obligation now?
>I just don’t want to have sex
>the girls around me just aren’t pretty enough
will you frickers quit coping and lying so much? you’re delusional
This.
So what if you can't score the prettiest girl in the room
Or her ugly friend
You can still have gorlock the destroyer
no I’m saying if you have working testicles and aren’t a -1/10 you would have fricked an average girl by now. just average. frick’s sake open your eyes
I highly doubt your genetics made you obese. It is likely your lifestyle. Quit making excuses for yourself bro you can do it. Women aren’t that tough a nut to crack man. Get in shape rizz them up. Human beings have invented particle colliders and walked on the moon I’m sure you can manage getting your dick wet
>no I’m saying if you have working testicles and aren’t a -1/10 you would have fricked an average girl by now. just average
Not worth the risks, senpai
Refer to
We get it Chad Thunderwiener, destroyer of virgin, deflowerer of maidens. Thank you for blessing us with your presence, please don't frick my mom and my sister with your suave charisma and your eccentric rizz, congrants on that foursome with beyonce and her sisters by the way
Is it really that difficult to accept people have different priorities than you? I've personally had women invite me over to a house date at their place (i. e. pretend you're just hanging out so you can frick "naturally" later) but turned them down because hook ups really don't interest me.
according to this board we are all incel weirdos for not wanting to frick every minute of our day away.
I just like lifting weights and doing cardio.
It's full of horny underagegays these days.
>say you can't have sex
>LMAO NO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE SEX YOU JUST DON'T WANT IT ENOUGH
>say you haven't had sex because you don't want it bad enough
>LMAO NO WHAT A LOSER I BET YOU COULDN'T GET LAID EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO
which is it, menial?
The sex cult doesn't work if you sigh and say it's not that important to you, see how
seethed about it? If you say "I'll do it when I can get around to it" you're basically saying his life's big 'accomplishment' wasn't worth anything.
It's a combination of two things:
1. People who genuinely cannot comprehend that others don't value sex and intimacy as much as them for whatever reason. Maybe they're shallow and think that's all that matters, maybe there's other reasons, doesn't matter.
2. People trying to bait and troll, because there DOES exist a percentage of people out there who cope by saying this stuff.
>and then getting them drunk
so you raped them, got it
>sex is le reddit chastity until 30 is based
nice try
>having sex with chubby, ugly 3dpd is preferable to wanking it to anime breasts
nice try
I am completely disconnected with Irl woman/girls and I Love 2d girls so much that I don't even care about this things anymore
I Love my waifu
I Love watching anime
I Love hugging my body pillow
I Love thinking about my waifus
you should be angry not cuck yourself like this. what has happened to the masculine spirit?
>you should be angry not cuck yourself like this.
getting angry does not solve those things I use to get angry because I don't have gf then I realize I am getting angery because I am paying too much attention to /feels/ threads and IRL couples. I just stop giving attention to those things and with that anger and frustration went away and I start like more and more anime girls
getting angry is the path to solve it one way or the other. being content is cucked and pathetic
I made one or two half hearted attempts at hooking up when I was young and being dragged along to clubs by my friends
>GO TALK TO HER ANON, HERE, GIVE HER THIS DRINK!
>But won't that be weird?
>NAH MAN SHE'S BEEN LOOKING YOUR DIRECTION ALL EVENING
>Really?
>REALLY
>*a few short moments later*
>Uhhh, h-hi
>hi!
>uhh...
>interesting music huh?
>yes
>...
>a-anyyway I better get back to my friends
It dawned on me pretty soon that the only reason I was out there engaging in the courtship ritual was because I thought I was supposed to. I'd much rather be with my imaginary lovers - they can be conjured up for one very specific purpose and then dismissed from your mind as soon as the orgasm is achieved.
I like women and find them more pleasant to interact with than men, but what do you even do together with a real gf the rest of the day? Wouldn't it be weird for me to sit and play WipEout on the living room TV when there's someone else living with me? I made a choice a long time ago that I will father no children, touch no tiddies, but just coom to the fantasy of anime girls desperate to pee. That's another thing: Most of my fantasies are pretty abstract and wouldn't be sexually stimulating for either of us IRL. In my head, we can both orgasm from her receiving foot rubs. I am now well into wizardhood.
A 19yo girl came to my house a few days ago and I hid in my basement.
(Mom friends brought her daughter without telling her)
ROFL LMAO
You sound like my little brother
How old are you?
You gotta face your fears one day
Fricking homosexual its actually you lol,frick off gonna play vidya now.
It was forsure me once,
But long ago I learned to be confident around women after I started having sex
He's the one too afraid to face his fears and realize that it's not that bad
Finally I'm part of the 1%
Those "women" are not virgin, therefore I have nothing to do with them sexually. Start behaving.
wait so I should just go around bullying people for being virgins?
>there are BILLIONS of women out there
israeli bullshit, the average male don't know 200 women let alone billions.
You just have to lower your standards mate its not that hard lmao
Would rather die a virgin.
Is OP's pic actually true or is it a nothingburger meme?
I keep seeing threads about this on /misc/ when i click on it on 4stats.
Born with shitty hormones that heavily predispose to obesity, abused as a child by parents and family, and some level of autism.
Some of us had it bad anon.
Quarantine ruined my chances of making it and integrating into society as a normalgay.
>t.19yo zoomer
no, it didn’t
if it did you might be a very fragile b***h
>hecking quarantine only happened to hecking me
I hate zoomers so much that it is unreal
tbf depending on how strict their country/state was, if the high schools completely shutdown it fricked the social lives of those who were already on shaky ground
Lmao no surprise. Zoomers are so fricking childish it's unreal.
I have had sex with 36 women and I have never once l looked at the vegana. Anyone else?
mfw i lost my virginity at 14 to 2 girls and even at that age before i lost it, girls were laughing saying "how are you still a virgin"
im only 20, if anything i'm in the same generation as all you incels but my school time was really normal. probably cause its england not am*Rica
>england
>normal
ok kek you're a funny guy
its normal in the sense that we are still openly racist/homophobic and you wont get ostracized for it unless you work in a super libtard office or have a select group of lentsoy drinking homosexual friends which id never subject myself to
basically a lot of the degeneracy i saw when i went to america wasnt applicable here. but we have other types of degeneracy like girls pissing and shitting on the streets (throwback to when i went out with like 10 girls in my teens and they all thought it was a good idea to take a toilet break on the sidewalk/pavement)
also things like street fights, punch ups, etc all really normal when i was growing up. i saw an american video which said it was normal in his FATHERS generation and the guy himself was 33 something. so it seemed weird, even the most onions homosexual i know has punched someone in the face
btw i wasnt chad or popular
i was a very weird guy, didnt have really any friends, even my best friend wanted to hang out with other people when they decided they like him
i sometimes think maybe because one of those girls was meant for him to frick and i took her (not snake him or anything i had low self esteem, i wasnt running any game they just chose me and undressed me), idk if he even ever lost his virginity
>girls were laughing saying "how are you still a virgin"
>14
Bait
its not bait its UK lol
sure moron
there's absolutely no way only 1.9% over 25 are virgins.
blog time: I'm average+ looking and social moronation could easily have rendered me a virgin at 25+. I've only had sex with one girl and kissed one other. the girl I had sex with was a total bawd so she made things babby mode easy for me. take 100 guys like me and play through their lives with different RNG and I think most of them end up virgins over 25.
... then again maybe most of them are Chadlites and I'm in the rare failure timeline because of some improbable events in my childhood I don't even remember lmao
embarrassing story from my youth
>be 20 kissless virgin
>by chance meet a nice looking single mom, part native american part Fillipina
>become friends, thinks she likes me
>start spending a lot of time with her, thinking this might be the one
>helping her out with some expenses, treating her to nice things
You all know where this is going
>one night she mentions that she misses going out with her friends
>offer to babysit her kids so she can go out, accepts
>comes home at 230am with some random dude while I'm sleeping on the couch
>they go into her bedroom, he fricks her and leaves 15 minutes later
>stuns
>she showers and comes out to talk "thanks anon, I needed that
>speechless
>knock on the door
>it's some other dude she she's also been fricking, I didn't even know about him
>he fricks her and leaves about 30 minutes later
I was really hurt, what a dumb naive frick I was. I wanted to kill her but I just left. She called me and was like "well you know we're just friends!" I still had this ideal that women were queens and you had to take things slow when you were serious.
Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I was forced to look in the mirror and I realized I was a fricking dork. I was skinny fat and I had no style. Started going to the gym, got a part time job to save some extra money, when I got into good shape I learned how to dress, learned proper hygiene and became determined. I eventually started meeting girls and after a few awkward encounters I got it down. Things aren't hopeless, you just have to do the work if you want the pussy
Ugh I've been through some similar shit, though it wasn't this bad (I'm 28 though).
1) Made out with a girl only for her to bail on me and go home with a different guy.
2) Spend the entire night clubbing with a girl I thought I had a good vibe with, but at the end she texted her Tinder fwb. He showed up and they left together.
3) Another story like 1), but this one had a bf (but she went home with another guy). She was hella fat. She must've felt great toying around with 3 guys at once.
Gym seems to work though. Women seem to show more interest with me for every BF% I manage to lose. I'm currently at 18-19% (started at 40+ lol imagine).
Brootal story, lad. Glad it worked out in the end.
Pathetic incel thread. If you cant get girls youre either socially inept or have unrealistically high standards or youre one of those weirdos who think women will approach you if youre fit enough (they wont). Ive seen 300lb ugly mexican dudes with decently hot gfs. You can make it just go outside lmao
I'm bald in my early 20s homie
>1.9%
no way thats true
I didn't lose my virginity until 26. I'm now 30 and women my age are much more interested in me than they were 5 years ago but I just can't accept them when I know they wouldn't have dated me when I was younger. I'll either find a younger wife or I'll just MGTOW.
I'm tall and fit btw, my problem was that I wasn't assertive enough even though I did take some initiative. Women are sexist hypocrites
>had my first blatant direct sexual experience at 12 years old
>didn't have PIV sex until 26
the ego boost from having girls flirt with me and, at most, give me a handjob, was all i needed
i reclined into the coomer lifestyle because i felt satisfied with who i was as an individual despite never having real sex
then i found a decent waifu and started fricking
Haha zoomies btfo
NO
When I was in HS this taller than me tomboy was very obviously into me and I pretended not to notice. I'm still a virgin at 33 and I consider it divine punishment
iktf i got approached twicein hs and my autism blew it now im a virgin at 31 brutal
jesus christ grow up
No. I will never mentally leave high school
You know when you see news about attractive female teacher caught "raping" a teen boy and getting in trouble, and you think "that's not rape, he wanted it", "nice", "I wish I had teachers like that when I was in school".
Well, teen girls are exactly the same, they also want older men. They want to be fricked by hot teacher. Next time you hear about a male teacher "raping" a female teen student, know she wanted it and feels lucky and other girls are jealous. This one reason why 50% of 18 year old boys are virgins, the girls are fricking older guys as 18 year old boys look like little immature spotty broccoli headed kids which is not attractive.
Word. My housemate says it was pretty common at her HS (some girls sleeping with the hot teachers). Was it considered inappropriate? Yes, but definitely not rape lol.
19 years old here, zoomers have way less sex than other generations, from my personal experience (friends, acquaintances etc)
What? not everyone here is an incel mate
I think the rise in virginity is directly coorelated with the rise of obesity. 30 years ago there were frick tons of ok and cute girls who wouldnt catch the eye of more attractive dudes who had the giga stacies. Except now that cushion of cute girls with good personalities all became obese and entitled
>Tfw when will be part of the 1.9% wizards in a couple years
>not basking in it and figuring out what magic route you are going towards.
I mashed my half chub vaguely inside a fat black prostitutes vegana before giving up cause I felt nothing.
Am I a virgin or no
No, you have strayed from the path. You are not a true sexhaver, yet your path to the arcane is forever denied all the same.
30. I checked out years ago when I realized my dating options were
>Burned out bawd wanting to settle down
>Fat chicks
>Single moms
Now even the fat chicks are racking up high bodycounts. I just asked myself if I really wanted to jump through a bunch of hoops just to put up with that, the thing is I don't gel with these people anyway so it takes active effort to pretend to care about their interests and it's time spent not doing the things I enjoy. I can't really conenct with them,I unironically only find connections with anons on here, everyone else just feels strange. If you want a romantic, intimate relationship it's just not an option in our time period, the sooner you recognize that the sooner you can focus on other thigns that will actually bear fruit that makes you happy.
>. I just asked myself if I really wanted to jump through a bunch of hoops just to put up with that, the thing is I don't gel with these people anyway so it takes active effort to pretend to care about their interests and it's time spent not doing the things I enjoy. I can't really conenct with them,I unironically only find connections with anons on here, everyone else just feels strange. If you want a romantic, intimate relationship it's just not an option in our time period, the sooner you recognize that the sooner you can focus on other thigns that will actually bear fruit that makes you happy.
Are you me? I do find connections via my hobbies at meetups. I just have so many other things I prefer doing.
I guess it depends on hobbies, stuff like the gym isn't where you go to talk to people, martial arts is guys only, hiking you do alone, guitar you can do alone, videogames alone, reading alone, etc. The social hobbies imo are just classes you would go to to learn things, people whose hobby is going clubbing or something just don't appeal to me.
I meant more like you do a hobby that isn't inherently social, but sometimes meetup together with other hobbiest.
The goal isn't to be social, those are stereotypically women's hobbies or sports. My goal is to learn or see more things IRL, and talk to people with knowledge or different perspectives.
Like an anime con, car/motorcycle meet, mountain bike race/clubs, paintball, etc.
Of course if they don't appeal then don't go. I only go maybe once a month.
You forgot one option. Move to a low income country like Mexico, South America, or somewhere in SE Asia.
Great, then you just get a golddigger.
I just don't want to die alone man, it terrifies me
I’m 25 and have never even kissed a girl. In fact I haven’t ever had a conversation with a girl my age for longer than a few minutes due to not having any female friends in high school, never having had a job, and becoming a recluse once high school ended.
On our way to Iraq, we got some leave so my squad went to Atlantic City to do some degenerate shit. Somewhere along the way, through the haze of booze and debauchery, we found out one of our boys was a virgin. Not about to let him die for ZOG without fixing that, we seek out the nearest pimp and get him to show us his wares. I pick a cute strung out white girl and money changes hands. We bust into the motel room later on to see how things are progressing only to find a 300 lb negress atop my friend. I go to extract my money from said pimp and get an uzi put in my face. Armed with only a pocket knife, I decided to fight another day. Those Black folks are slippery, I tell you. My friend is an high ranking officer now and still has a huge negress fetish. I mean that both his fetish and the negresses are huge. We have photographic evidence.
I was 11 when I lost mine to a 15 year old girl, shagged her regularly for 18 months. I’m Gen X though, everything that came after us was fricking pathetic
A wise anon once said
>The pendulum is going to swing so hard it will make the handmaids tale look like a fricking romance film
I have put my penis in a vegana, AMA
where how teach me master.
I am not even a wizard yet, but I have attained incredible arcane power. I will only keep going. Sexhavers take an early exit on the journey towards gnosis.
>only 2% of 25 year olds are virgins
IST has not won yet, not enough wizards.
31 and a kissless virgin. Never been on a date. Never asked a girl out. Barely even have had conversations with girls in my life. Complete and utter loser in the rest of my life. The thought of having sex, kissing a girl, or going on a date absolutely terrifies me because I will expose my pathetic life and also my complete lack of experience in doing anything. I will never do any of these things. Every passing day bring me the hope that eventually I will get the courage to commit suicide.
im 22 kissless virgin. I just waited my whole life for girls to do the action, but I guess thats wrong. I have to do the moves and all that.
>30 years old
>never had sex, barely any dates and they never go anywhere anyway
>have no standards, find literally 80-90% of women between teenage years and their 40s to be cute
>never speak to anyone and barely even make eye contact
>constantly annoyed by women especially their high pitched annoying voices and unlike most normal guys I can't overcome that annoyance to feign interest
>ride the subway every day for many years, constantly see the same girls/women I ride with for 30+ minutes, see girls/women who get off at my stop meaning they live somewhere in my vicinity, yet have never spoken to a single other person in all these years
put a bullet through my brain .please i beg you.
No. your life worth living without woman
im 29, have a bodycount of 40, numerous ltrs. it's just not hard lol. like anything it requires practice and you won't get it right first time. you can escape this
teach us master. Where do u meet women?
just practice man. get tinder, get some good pics, or hinge or whatever and go on dates even if it's like... not a girl you're crazy about just for practice, frankly. find out how to make girls comfortable, how to have a ncie date, shit like that, how to chat.
this is a good point also
>just practice man. get tinder, get some good pics, or hinge or whatever and go on dates even if it's like... not a girl you're crazy about just for practice, frankly. find out how to make girls comfortable, how to have a ncie date, shit like that, how to chat.
Where I live, we don't really use dating apps. I've always backed out of dating girls usually because I didn't find them pretty enough. But I did get some experience on talking and texting with girls. I just didn't do anything sexual. Idk how to proceed to the sexual stuff.
frick man idk lol. ask them back to yours to watch a movie or whatever, she;ll read the subtext
is that how you do it? Also during normal dates like just grabbing coffee or whatever, whats a good way to initiate physical contact, perhaps get kisses? I'm good at talking but I totally forget to do the physical contact lol.
look tbh i've been pretty blunt and just been like 'come over lol' via tinder and ti's often worked. don't be too pushy, just go in for a cuddle or some shit as you say hi/bye i guess. just have a chat, the second/third date is typically when that is or isn't on the table
yea i guess it really is that simple. Thanks for the tips. I was being a frickin weirdo shaking girls hands when i said hi/bye.
>just go on tinder bro
holy fricking delusional. tinder is a death trap to the average man. you attractive frickers are so naive
location plays a massive part as well. I moved cities in my mid 20s (am 29 now). the amount of sex I had significantly increased after moving.
I was so down about being unwanted in the city I was born & bred in and I thought that it'd be the same wherever I went
Wizard, here.
Not sure how to give you an answer that isn't a blog post.
My guess is we're all just "perfect storm" frick-ups with a lot of boring minutia to our cases.
How is that possible? You were bullied into oblivion if you were a virgin at 18 back in my day. What the frick is happening with zoomers? Their girls are the easiest ever, yet the boys can't get laid for some reason.
t. 32yo fricking nothing but zoomer girls for the last few years
>t. 32yo fricking nothing but zoomer girls for the last few years
from tinder?
Idk, but maybe it has something to do with those girls being some guy's cumrag?
Didn't read. Frick you for massreplying homosexual
>Drunk hot girls from tinder, nerdy slampigs, hookers
if you chase sex as some biological process akin to eating or shitting then it's not that hard, clearly it didn't mean anything if you were willing to stick your dick in anything but if you're looking for actual intimacy then yes it's harder. you sound no different than girls on twitter posting a looksmatch couple going "what's your excuse incel?" "just be confident". like
says if you're here and not totally reprehensible chances are you're just fricked up in some type of neurotic way.
>Only 1.9% are virgins above 25 but below 30
It's over.
I get that some people just aren't interested in sex, but that's probably due to low testosterone levels. I'll be honest and say most of the 30ish girls I've fricked have been 6/10s, but I am so god damn horny all the time, I would kill myself if I never got laid. It's literally priority number one in my monkey brain. After studying the sexual marketplace for a while, it's become obvious that the environment is EXTREMELY competitive for men. You basically need to be in the top 10% of men to get laid regularly and even higher to have autonomy while doing it. There are some beta men having sex but the vegana they have access too doesn't respect them and runs their lives.
I second this. Natty test levels are 600 ng/dl and I don't feel like fricking girls that are less than a 7/10. Took steroids and then all of the sudden I wanted to frick all women.
still a virgin btw.
Probably. I need to cut to around 15% to start caring about women. When I get fat(20%)+ I just can't be bothered. Has it's pros that's for sure.
However I was very good at restraining myself as a teen so I can keep that going easier. Found it made me more aggressive in sports and other aspects.
>You basically need to be in the top 10% of men to get laid regularly and even higher to have autonomy while doing it.
this
social media boosted their egos to the moon. had 12 relationships by now. I ended all of them in less than a week because they don't respect my authority. no, I won't go for submissive asians, they got small ass and down syndrome face
did u have sex with all 12? 1 week relationship sounds like you never got any pussy buddy.
got sex with one
>over 25 only 1.9%
I'm a unicorn.
So all the OG IST incels back in 2007 that kept saying 80% of men would be incels and then the government would try to brainwash them into cutting their dicks off to solve the problem and people said they were crazy tinfoil were right all along?
I don't know if I'm just imagining it because you're saying it but I feel like I remember people saying things like that back in the days where troony meant someone like linetrap and not someone like chrischan.
Did any anon even know about the links between trannies and autism and autogynephilia that far back?
I suspect I might have some sort of an autism or aspergers.
I'm 30, KSV, and so far in my life at no point I've had any kind of desire to be in relationship or to date.
Most people seem to naturally gravitate towards it - it being something they want, but I don't.
This is not some sort of an incel cope. I genuinely cannot think of a reason why I'd want it, besides maybe experiencing sex.
Prostitution is legal here, every year I think I'll maybe use it, but even that seems less interesting than other things in life like lifting and running.
All in all, I think it's not something unnatural. Genetic dead ends are not uncommon in nature.
>tfw when finally got the gf and bang with her 3 to 6 times a day every day at 29
>ask woman out
>she refuses
no one owes you sex incel
>i get tinder bawds
>but im actually ugly and fat and short
pick one lmao
If you were genetically fricked in some way, then it's kinda over for you.
Wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Literally no one I know has sex.
>1.9%
to all virgins. its not worth the effort to just lose it to a random girl u dont care for. for her its just another day on the wiener carousel. U need to frick someone u care about or else fapping mogs it
>Don't care about myself
>Don't care about anyone in this world
>Just wanna die