You just realised medical dramas show the benefits of medicine?
That's science fiction. It literally depicts a israeli woman caring about children and loving a white man.
i've no issue with vaccines that have been tested thoroughly for atleast 5 years. the covid one is just too bizarre
This is how I was at the beginning of covid, now I am completely antivaxx
Poleo, measles, small pocks, typhoid, rabbies and much, much more were all rendered null or wiped out due to vaccines in first world nations, and idiots like you believe in unfounded evidence, by amateurs on youtube, that vaccines will kill you?
your black and white thinking is peak brainwashing, no normal person just assumes someone else thinks like that. Fricking hell the very guy you are repying to said he only trusts vaccines after 5 years of testing, is that in any way unreasonable?
3 months ago
Anonymous
forget it lad. This just goes on to show that people are ready to fry the braincells inside their head to grow deadcells on top of it.
All those diseases were on the brink of extinction due to infrastructures of higher quality when the baxines came
That said, mithridatism is old as mankind and does work. Greed and lies too, and that's what the pharma cartel is adept at.
Mithridatism != baxines product of the most evil industrial cartel ever created
Fascinating tbh. Makes complete sense that reproductive health would be tied to metabolic function. All these vaxxies want to throw away essential processes they and their pharmagods are nowhere near fully understanding for vain stupid bullshit like stock prices and hair. Just shave it bro lmao
Kevin "Haircafe" Mann. Autist who believes that fin is the only real solution to hairloss and non stop advertises it. He believes that side effects and post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo, DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope.
>fin is the only real solution to hairloss
That's true though. >He believes that side effects and post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo
Also true >DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope.
And also true
>the same kind of mices are also used for other medical studies
So what's the problem?
3 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that mice studies are notorious to be off and is literally just there to show "see, that rat didn't die or get paralyzed. Can we move on to monkey now please?"
>He believes that side effects
it's a lie, he talks about the sides in every fin vid, just cites the actual numbers, about 2% compared to placebo, and that they aren't related to DHT, otherwise dutasteride, which completely nukes DHT would have an infinitely higher incidence of side effects, not lower, and, if DHT had any effect on libido, the sides would be universal, not 2%, just like lowering test by more than half would lower anyones libido >post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo
it is >DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope
it is after puberty, it's only active where it is produced, e.g. hair follicles, prostate, it's inactive in the muscles
he's a moron for shilling the vaxx, though
>he's a moron for shilling the vaxx, though
What's moronic is attempting to selectively divorce the opinions of a histrionic authoritarian vegan moron who shills the vaxx unironically and not seeing the issue
I don't care about your moronic zoomer eceleb drama, I can only judge individual information by its merit. someone can be wrong about one topic and totally correct about the other. it isn't avengers
this is the insane mental gymnastics you go through so you can tell yourself you aren't trooning out by taking hormone blockers. you're wrong and you are wrecking your body. and unless you started taking androgen blockers in your early 20s, you are most likely going to still have shit hair. just like a troony who can't pass.
something that preserves testosterone by limiting its conversion to a harmful metabolite is literally the oposite. you are too braindead to understand basic biology about dht being paracrine and only active in e.g. prostate, where it only does harm after puberty. so you can only project your trannism on random things out of nowhere lel.
It is not "moronic zoomer eceleb drama", if you can't understand how the underlying personality and thought processes of a person affect and dictate the conclusions they arrive at, you're lacking in emotional intelligence and you have the intuition of a midwit.
You're coping hard if you think you can divorce "big pharma good" when it comes to finasteride and "big pharma good get vaxxed!"
3 months ago
Anonymous
it is. thought process applied at finding relevant and verifiable data proving the given statement is completely irrelevant, you can only disprove it by showing that the data itself is incorrect, not speculating about personalities and spouting zoomer buzzwords. you are literally claiming that that, if someone is wrong about something, then he can't be right saying that grass is green, giving photographic evidence, because his personality is wrong. similarly, if someone proves without any reasonable doubt that post fin syndrome is bullshit, ithe fact that he contradict himself about the importance of verifiable science when it comes to vaxx, doesn't make it false. jesus fricking christ.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Except we aren't debating whether the grass is green, we're discussing complex, not easily verifiable, and far from objective information. If some moron who thinks "whatever authority says is true!!" is backing your horse then you really should be questioning a bit more. If you think pharmaceutical companies are going to lie about the vaxx, that should be motivation enough to think a little more critically about other things they are selling you.
Obviously, you're losing your hair so you're too shit scared to venture anywhere else. Much like how millions of normies took untested experimental medical concoctions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's not complex at all, otherwise any random thing anyone can just make up would be complex, because there's literally nothing to support it. complexity has nothing to do with it anyway, even complex topics can be easily verifiable, or at least be accepted as the correct one based on the currently available data.
he doesn't say "whatever authority says is true!!", he says to verify study methodologies and data and not blindly trust tenuous theories that go against decades of quality research, usually trying to sell something, just because there's a mouse study that vaguely suggests it, which is basic common sense, and the fact that he goes against his own advice by shilling the vaxx, doesn't make it false
3 months ago
Anonymous
>currently available data.
Major cope. Just looking through corrupt data on mrna research it was a not looking good then, and looks even worse now kek.
3 months ago
Anonymous
there was no data on mrna research, there were failed animal studies, pflizer studies, which were full of inconsistencies and outright manipulations and even then painted really bleak picture, they even refuse to release raw data and vaccinated the control groups kek and the post marketing statistics was when they really went full moron and counted vaccinated within 14 days as unvaccinated. disregarding such blatant garbage and treating a novel therapy that goes against all established science, e.g. corona viruses mutating too fast for a vaccine to be possible, is exactly what it means to follow the science andestablished scientific consensus. if you really compare it with double blinded placebo trails and systemic reviews of decades of research, you really are a rare kind of midwit
3 months ago
Anonymous
So many midwits were delusional and many still are. You summed up scientific events nicely.
this is the insane mental gymnastics you go through so you can tell yourself you aren't trooning out by taking hormone blockers. you're wrong and you are wrecking your body. and unless you started taking androgen blockers in your early 20s, you are most likely going to still have shit hair. just like a troony who can't pass.
Weve already proved you wrong by posting pics in this thread. Im curious to see your rationale behind all these athletes actors and models that take it. Sean O included
>all these athletes, actors and models
you don't know what anyone takes unless they explicity say it or they clearly had a transplant. i'd bet there's very few professional athletes taking androgen blockers though. especially olympic athletes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can easily find videos of actors and models talking a out taking it including models like Sean O and Chico like i said. Trump also has been taking it since the 90s and it was popular enough with Olympic level athletes that it was banned for a while for several reasons including it being used possibly as a steroid masking agent. https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/fashion/thursdaystyles/fighting-baldness-and-now-an-olympic-ban.html
This is all very easy to find information anon you seem to be willingly ignorant
3 months ago
Anonymous
ok but you don't know what anyone takes unless they explicitly say it or clearly have a transplant. and you are inferring that it was popular with athletes because it was banned.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I just mentioned people that take it and the article i linked mentions them too! You can find even more yourself if you like
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's almost like they're exactly the opposite and a random bald troony, who will never pass, is typically projecting its gender dismorphia out of nowhere on random things and with nothing to back it up
3 months ago
Anonymous
>ONE guy. who used fin for 7 years and is still chromedome bald anyway
post hair
3 months ago
Anonymous
let's see yours without the troony wig first. I started taking finasteride literally less than a week ago because of braindead mouthbreathers, like you. and the only "side" I feel so far is increased libido, because as research shows that only lowtest cucks get sexual sides. I realize that I probably never get 100% hairline recovery at this point and should've started taking fin 20 years ago, because I was seeing what mentally ill redditor trannies with non-existing test, like you, are spouting all over the internet. if I ever met you in person I'd sodomize you with your dilator and strangle you with your troony wig.
This b***hes life is passing her by at 800mph and she's gonna get through it without ever having lived and be too stupid to even regret it. It won't hurt anybody either. Cleanest suicide I've ever seen.
>Depression
Literally just lift and eat well, other than that you can't do much more than be. Ever seen an animal be depressed? >ADHD
By now probably everyone has ADHD because of our phones. Just meditate and include activities where you're using every part of your body instead of being a passive consumer. Don't fricking resort to adderall to keep yourself focused. >BPD
I could easily claim BPD, Having manic attacks and depression in winter does not not make you elligible for meds. >Anxiety and Sleep
Take Creatine and stop drinking coffein. Everybody struggles with sleep because of our phones. If you can't put it away or eat at night you have all the things that you could fix before going this far. As for anxiety don't eat before you feel hungry in the day and keep yourself busy with deep work. If you catch yurself being bored or eating when you don't need it you are doing something wrong. >Binge Eating & Skin Picking
First of all what wrong with skin picking? Been doing it since childhood. If it bothers you or you are overdoing it, keep a pack of gums and always take one out when you are about to do it. As for binge eating it's a sign of an unhealthy diet and circadian rythm which is actually controlled to a big part from the times you eat, that's why it's important to eat at the same times everyday and not eat before sleep and prioritize volume eating with lots of sodium and don't deprive yourself of sweet food, just change it up throughout the week with lower caloric options. >Heart
It's over. >Anxiety
Lol. >IBS
Fricked because of years of wrong dieting. Fast for 5-10 days and then another 5 days of low calorie higher fiber food.
>burgers get literal legal meth for a fake disease
When I told my polish doctor I thought I might have ADHD he told me to stop being a pussy and get more fresh air
DHT is more androgenic than any other form of Testosterone.
DHT: >makes your dick grow >makes your muscles grow >makes your bones grow thicker >makes you more hairy >gives you lower voice >makes you more agressive and assertive
Only morons would call this a trash hormone. No wonder your haircel guru behaves feminine in his videos. He already is limpdicked feminized subhuman, but he's too proud to admit that he fricked himself up.
What's the point of having hair if your dick is dead forever.
DHT is only androgenic in the areas it's produced you fricking moron (aka your prostate, skin, hair follicles etc). It's not androgenic at all in shit like your muscles. It's not an endocrine hormone like testosterone. In fact DHT is literally inactivated in all other tissues it's not produced in into an incredibly weak androgen called 3α-diol. In an adult male all it does is increase the size of your prostate and make you bald.
btfo. funny how he keeps begging for hairlines, too ashamed to post his natty DHT hairline first, while too moronic to realize he literally self owns himself, only proving the importance to get on fin as fast as possible before the baldness progresses
>wrecked your body
pottery. I hope you realize that DHT wrecks basically every part of the body it is produced in, including the heart, that's why, even if he started too late to save his hair, he should still be on it, precisely to avoid wrecking his body lel.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31300720/
do you actually believe this shit? or just say it to poison the well. I've been using fin like 2 years and have zero side effects, wish I had started sooner but complete bullshit like this scared me out of it.
>be low test already >take finn >feel no change cause test can't be below 0 >oh wow this must mean there are no side effects and all evidence of the opposite is fake
i'm so sorry you had to find out you are moronic this way
it has nothing to do with DHT, otherwise dutasteride, which, unlike fin, completely nukes DHT to basically zero and also blocks 5ar type 1 involved in the production of neurosteroids, would have an infinitely higher incidence of side effects, not slightly lower. testosterone is the important male hormone responsible for libido, cutting it by half, not to mention nuking it completely, would noticeably affect every single person, not just 2%
>be low test already >take finn >feel no change cause test can't be below 0 >oh wow this must mean there are no side effects and all evidence of the opposite is fake
i'm so sorry you had to find out you are moronic this way
it's literally the opposite
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023004/ > A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.
in reality little b***hes with barely detectable test are those who get sides from fin kek. sorry you had to find out this way you're not only moronic, but like a little girl
the lucky few end up keeping their hairline but looking like an old ftm troon. the rest end up with depression, ED, breasts and beta behavior while still having a wispy cope combover anyways. idk if the risk is worth it bros.
troons with non existing testosterone are the ones who get sides from fin in the first place. see
it has nothing to do with DHT, otherwise dutasteride, which, unlike fin, completely nukes DHT to basically zero and also blocks 5ar type 1 involved in the production of neurosteroids, would have an infinitely higher incidence of side effects, not slightly lower. testosterone is the important male hormone responsible for libido, cutting it by half, not to mention nuking it completely, would noticeably affect every single person, not just 2%
[...]
it's literally the opposite
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023004/ > A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.
in reality little b***hes with barely detectable test are those who get sides from fin kek. sorry you had to find out this way you're not only moronic, but like a little girl
and it's nearly perfect and just stopping hairloss, so the only people who won't are the ones, who take trannies like you seriously. otherwise it's a great substance for general health and longetivity and a natural-testosterone booster, worth taking even without any hairloss, and you literally can't disprove it, at best you'll nervously try to google something and paste some random sentence, which won't mean what you'll think it'll mean kek
you first. multiple people who got on fin early enough posted hair and I don't see yours yet. let's see those natty norwood pigtails
3 months ago
Anonymous
i'm not the one shilling hormone blockers. are your hormone blockers not working? what's the point of taking them if your still too embarrassed to post hair?
3 months ago
Anonymous
good thing finasteride is literally testosterone preserver >what's the point of taking
even if I didn't care about preserving hair, I'd still take fin, as DHT wrecks basically every part of the body it is produced in, including the heart lel
what's the point of trying to argue if you don't posses the mental capacity? are you trying to imply that finasteride doesn't work at stopping hairloss? every single quality study shows otherwise, you're welcome to try to disprove it and even multiple people on fin posted hair, by your moronic logic. are you trying to imply that anyone shouldn't get on fin as fast as possible? you're the best horror story about what happens if they wait too long.
3 months ago
Anonymous
didn't read. i see you're too ashamed to post hair but for some reason want to convince other men to take the same hormone blockers you're on.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why won't you acknowledge
https://i.imgur.com/ljQPdFJ.jpg
Ok
?
Is it because it ruins your little confirmation bias?
3 months ago
Anonymous
are you implying that's you? why are YOU here shilling androgen blockers when you are too embarrassed to post your hair? they are obviously not working for you moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
posted it in the last thread you were sperging in and I will post it in this one too 🙂
3 months ago
Anonymous
that anon is polite. if it's you post a new timestamp.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I am that anon but not
good thing finasteride is literally testosterone preserver >what's the point of taking
even if I didn't care about preserving hair, I'd still take fin, as DHT wrecks basically every part of the body it is produced in, including the heart lel
what's the point of trying to argue if you don't posses the mental capacity? are you trying to imply that finasteride doesn't work at stopping hairloss? every single quality study shows otherwise, you're welcome to try to disprove it and even multiple people on fin posted hair, by your moronic logic. are you trying to imply that anyone shouldn't get on fin as fast as possible? you're the best horror story about what happens if they wait too long.
this one. I guess im not as polite as I seem sometimes all the vitriolic discourse around hairloss on the internet gets to me sometimes haha. Getting another time stamp would be a hassle in a half. My reason for posting was the claim that everyone that takes fin has chop job hair and no one posts hair. If you were the anon I was intending to reply to it was to demonstrate that's not true and your conceptions about fin are inaccurate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
why would anyone post hair anymore now once you've already proven to be a little b***h trying to pretend that all those norwood 0 fin hairlines posted don't exist while not even posting yours?
3 months ago
Anonymous
uhhmm.. K-kk-Kevin??
3 months ago
Anonymous
of course you didn't, it's been obvious you're functionally illiterate for quite some time. it's clear you're completely broken by the realization that you've lost your hair for completely no reason and turned into a troony in a wig, because you were too dumb to actually read the research and thought that finasteride "lowers the testosterone" while it actually increases it. that's why you obsesively cope by wasting 24/7 in every finasteride-related thread getting factually humiliated barely aware what's going on, unable to respond with anything other than some completely random empty ad hominems while tears flow down your face. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone where your real hairline is pictured , and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man who wore a wig is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably bald.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
yeah that's why when I took fin my >dick shrunk >muscles evaporated >bones got shorter >became hairless >voice became light and airy >became submissive and agreeable
>antihairloss drug is sometimes used for men pretending to be women
no shit. more convincing than your wig, I guess. I know transgender therapy is so relevant to you due to your condition, but you should sometimes read something else than pseudoscience articles that promote "surgical interventions for gender identity disorder", like I dunno, actual systemic reviews or double blinded placebo studies posted ITT >the second source literally says that trannies are the ones susceptible to fin sides
kek you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed
he's absolutely right in this vid and his hairloss content is flawless, but he's proven to be moronic by shilling a failed experimental gene therapy (which reached the mainstream because of politics, not science) on "experts" word alone, backed only by really poor studies with contradictory numbers and replete with most obvious statistical manipulations and errors
I'm so glad I don't have to choose between my hair and my dick >but I've been using fin and my dick is fine!!
Frick off your dick has always been tiny and soft
good luck bro. I got some minor regrowth literally days after starting topical dut and RU, i.e. the middle of my hairline creeping down a bit and wispy hairs sprouting there up to the point where the middle of my old hairline used to be, but not much more 4 months later. it's weird, because first regrowth should start after months due to the hair lifecycle and I'm worried it's all the regrowth I'm gonna get
>I got some minor regrowth literally days after starting topical dut
lmao what a bs. it's impossible to get a "minor regrowth" in couple days even if you cut away your balls.
Imagining that regrowth, but you can get some within a year after a hair growth cycle goes through. Dut has the highest rate of regrowth. Also has anecdotes of it nuking people's hairlines somehow.
I realize it shouldn't happen and it seemed impossible to me too, but I some individual hairs started to slightly mature, to the point of being detectable by touch, amost immediately. I'm talking about a few hairs in the middle of my hairline, not any significant regrowth.
Imagining that regrowth, but you can get some within a year after a hair growth cycle goes through. Dut has the highest rate of regrowth. Also has anecdotes of it nuking people's hairlines somehow.
I'm on cope palmetto, but thinking about moving on 0.2 mg fin, still not sure about it.. The results vary so widely that you don't know who to believe, in addition I'm also not a very big fan of pharma. you can find dozens of posts on r/tressless people complaining about their libido tanked and erectile dysfunction sticked for months after stopping fin
>cope palmetto
kek this is too real. it isn't completely useless, though, I noticed some real signs of decreased scalp DHT while on it, i.e. it stopped being so oily. probably still not enough to make any difference regarding hairloss
>cope palmetto
Literally >does nothing: the treatment.
>reddit
Yeah but that's a microcosm of neurotic bros. Yes you can get sides, no they won't break you permanently. Anecdotally I can say getting on fin increased my libido for a bit, then it went back to normal. Stress and lack of sleep affect my boners far more than taking some fin and I'm on 0.75mg oral and 2ml topical daily.
Do people actually watch his videos as they come out?
90% of the video is just repeated content from previous videos with a few new personal attacks thrown in, his channel name "haircafe" is purely to spite another channel called "baldcafe".
He spends an awful lot of time trying to convince people fin sides are overblown but then turns around and spreads stupid amounts of FUD over oral minoxidil, one step forward, two steps back.
Too many morons nocebo themselves trying oral min because they read too many reddit posts saying it's going to make your heart explode.
My erections actually improved after switching to dutasteride from fin. You'd think it'd be the opposite but maybe the increased free test did something.
did he talk about the vax?
I hope he is not a vaxxie
if you're surprised at all by this you're beyond fricking stupid.
it's a legit question
he is . he even talked about it b4 as to how anti-vax poltards are incel losers.
Anyways, pro or anti finasteride anons, what are ur thoughts on this?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8759776/#:~:text=These%20observations%20indicate%20that%20gonadal,that%20its%20loss%20causes%20constipation.&text=Gonadal%20androgens%20are%20required%20for%20normal%20gastrointestinal%20transit%20in%20vivo.
I was antivaxx until i saw that house episode that showed how dangerous not vaccinating is!
Huh I never yet realized I will never be able to watch a medical drama again
You just realised medical dramas show the benefits of medicine?
Poleo, measles, small pocks, typhoid, rabbies and much, much more were all rendered null or wiped out due to vaccines in first world nations, and idiots like you believe in unfounded evidence, by amateurs on youtube, that vaccines will kill you?
>implying your beliefs aren't equally based on logical fallacies
I am explicitly stating that his ideas aren't equally based.
your black and white thinking is peak brainwashing, no normal person just assumes someone else thinks like that. Fricking hell the very guy you are repying to said he only trusts vaccines after 5 years of testing, is that in any way unreasonable?
forget it lad. This just goes on to show that people are ready to fry the braincells inside their head to grow deadcells on top of it.
>reddit posting
give it up
>small pocks
Thank you Mr. Pharma Shill
All those diseases were on the brink of extinction due to infrastructures of higher quality when the baxines came
That said, mithridatism is old as mankind and does work. Greed and lies too, and that's what the pharma cartel is adept at.
Mithridatism != baxines product of the most evil industrial cartel ever created
That's science fiction. It literally depicts a israeli woman caring about children and loving a white man.
i've no issue with vaccines that have been tested thoroughly for atleast 5 years. the covid one is just too bizarre
This is how I was at the beginning of covid, now I am completely antivaxx
Fascinating tbh. Makes complete sense that reproductive health would be tied to metabolic function. All these vaxxies want to throw away essential processes they and their pharmagods are nowhere near fully understanding for vain stupid bullshit like stock prices and hair. Just shave it bro lmao
>in mice
DROPPED
>mice
totally irrelevant. finasteride works completely differently in mice, e.g. it blocks 5ar type 1, but not in humans
ive been taking finasteride for a year plus and i still shit normal
You hope ? He is a certified leftoid, this man had 10 boosters already
who is this
Kevin "Haircafe" Mann. Autist who believes that fin is the only real solution to hairloss and non stop advertises it. He believes that side effects and post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo, DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope.
is mann a israeli surname?
Yes
No it's a german name. It literally means man. israeli names are usually with one n and have something like gold or berg added to it.
Berg doesn’t have to be israeli either, all israeli names are lifted from other cultures, and yes there are israeli Manns
All of this is correct though
how about dht being trash hormone? that one alone is pretty bold statement and gives bro science reeks
>fin is the only real solution to hairloss
That's true though.
>He believes that side effects and post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo
Also true
>DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope.
And also true
So what's the problem?
>DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope.
>And also true
>So what's the problem?
see
>mice study
lmfao
>the same kind of mices are also used for other medical studies
So what's the problem?
The fact that mice studies are notorious to be off and is literally just there to show "see, that rat didn't die or get paralyzed. Can we move on to monkey now please?"
don't forget that he's a vegan
maybe that's why he looks like a lesbian
>He believes that side effects
it's a lie, he talks about the sides in every fin vid, just cites the actual numbers, about 2% compared to placebo, and that they aren't related to DHT, otherwise dutasteride, which completely nukes DHT would have an infinitely higher incidence of side effects, not lower, and, if DHT had any effect on libido, the sides would be universal, not 2%, just like lowering test by more than half would lower anyones libido
>post fin syndrome is a hoax and effect of nocebo
it is
>DHT is a "trash" hormone and every other method is just a cope
it is after puberty, it's only active where it is produced, e.g. hair follicles, prostate, it's inactive in the muscles
he's a moron for shilling the vaxx, though
>he's a moron for shilling the vaxx, though
What's moronic is attempting to selectively divorce the opinions of a histrionic authoritarian vegan moron who shills the vaxx unironically and not seeing the issue
I don't care about your moronic zoomer eceleb drama, I can only judge individual information by its merit. someone can be wrong about one topic and totally correct about the other. it isn't avengers
something that preserves testosterone by limiting its conversion to a harmful metabolite is literally the oposite. you are too braindead to understand basic biology about dht being paracrine and only active in e.g. prostate, where it only does harm after puberty. so you can only project your trannism on random things out of nowhere lel.
It is not "moronic zoomer eceleb drama", if you can't understand how the underlying personality and thought processes of a person affect and dictate the conclusions they arrive at, you're lacking in emotional intelligence and you have the intuition of a midwit.
You're coping hard if you think you can divorce "big pharma good" when it comes to finasteride and "big pharma good get vaxxed!"
it is. thought process applied at finding relevant and verifiable data proving the given statement is completely irrelevant, you can only disprove it by showing that the data itself is incorrect, not speculating about personalities and spouting zoomer buzzwords. you are literally claiming that that, if someone is wrong about something, then he can't be right saying that grass is green, giving photographic evidence, because his personality is wrong. similarly, if someone proves without any reasonable doubt that post fin syndrome is bullshit, ithe fact that he contradict himself about the importance of verifiable science when it comes to vaxx, doesn't make it false. jesus fricking christ.
Except we aren't debating whether the grass is green, we're discussing complex, not easily verifiable, and far from objective information. If some moron who thinks "whatever authority says is true!!" is backing your horse then you really should be questioning a bit more. If you think pharmaceutical companies are going to lie about the vaxx, that should be motivation enough to think a little more critically about other things they are selling you.
Obviously, you're losing your hair so you're too shit scared to venture anywhere else. Much like how millions of normies took untested experimental medical concoctions.
it's not complex at all, otherwise any random thing anyone can just make up would be complex, because there's literally nothing to support it. complexity has nothing to do with it anyway, even complex topics can be easily verifiable, or at least be accepted as the correct one based on the currently available data.
he doesn't say "whatever authority says is true!!", he says to verify study methodologies and data and not blindly trust tenuous theories that go against decades of quality research, usually trying to sell something, just because there's a mouse study that vaguely suggests it, which is basic common sense, and the fact that he goes against his own advice by shilling the vaxx, doesn't make it false
>currently available data.
Major cope. Just looking through corrupt data on mrna research it was a not looking good then, and looks even worse now kek.
there was no data on mrna research, there were failed animal studies, pflizer studies, which were full of inconsistencies and outright manipulations and even then painted really bleak picture, they even refuse to release raw data and vaccinated the control groups kek and the post marketing statistics was when they really went full moron and counted vaccinated within 14 days as unvaccinated. disregarding such blatant garbage and treating a novel therapy that goes against all established science, e.g. corona viruses mutating too fast for a vaccine to be possible, is exactly what it means to follow the science andestablished scientific consensus. if you really compare it with double blinded placebo trails and systemic reviews of decades of research, you really are a rare kind of midwit
So many midwits were delusional and many still are. You summed up scientific events nicely.
this is the insane mental gymnastics you go through so you can tell yourself you aren't trooning out by taking hormone blockers. you're wrong and you are wrecking your body. and unless you started taking androgen blockers in your early 20s, you are most likely going to still have shit hair. just like a troony who can't pass.
Weve already proved you wrong by posting pics in this thread. Im curious to see your rationale behind all these athletes actors and models that take it. Sean O included
>all these athletes, actors and models
you don't know what anyone takes unless they explicity say it or they clearly had a transplant. i'd bet there's very few professional athletes taking androgen blockers though. especially olympic athletes.
You can easily find videos of actors and models talking a out taking it including models like Sean O and Chico like i said. Trump also has been taking it since the 90s and it was popular enough with Olympic level athletes that it was banned for a while for several reasons including it being used possibly as a steroid masking agent. https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/fashion/thursdaystyles/fighting-baldness-and-now-an-olympic-ban.html
This is all very easy to find information anon you seem to be willingly ignorant
ok but you don't know what anyone takes unless they explicitly say it or clearly have a transplant. and you are inferring that it was popular with athletes because it was banned.
I just mentioned people that take it and the article i linked mentions them too! You can find even more yourself if you like
it's almost like they're exactly the opposite and a random bald troony, who will never pass, is typically projecting its gender dismorphia out of nowhere on random things and with nothing to back it up
>ONE guy. who used fin for 7 years and is still chromedome bald anyway
post hair
let's see yours without the troony wig first. I started taking finasteride literally less than a week ago because of braindead mouthbreathers, like you. and the only "side" I feel so far is increased libido, because as research shows that only lowtest cucks get sexual sides. I realize that I probably never get 100% hairline recovery at this point and should've started taking fin 20 years ago, because I was seeing what mentally ill redditor trannies with non-existing test, like you, are spouting all over the internet. if I ever met you in person I'd sodomize you with your dilator and strangle you with your troony wig.
>Autist who believes that fin is the only real solution to hairloss
I mean, it's true. Hairloss in men is caused by hormones
just another loser drug addict heeheehee
This b***hes life is passing her by at 800mph and she's gonna get through it without ever having lived and be too stupid to even regret it. It won't hurt anybody either. Cleanest suicide I've ever seen.
Bruh american HeAlThCaRe be like
>Depression
Literally just lift and eat well, other than that you can't do much more than be. Ever seen an animal be depressed?
>ADHD
By now probably everyone has ADHD because of our phones. Just meditate and include activities where you're using every part of your body instead of being a passive consumer. Don't fricking resort to adderall to keep yourself focused.
>BPD
I could easily claim BPD, Having manic attacks and depression in winter does not not make you elligible for meds.
>Anxiety and Sleep
Take Creatine and stop drinking coffein. Everybody struggles with sleep because of our phones. If you can't put it away or eat at night you have all the things that you could fix before going this far. As for anxiety don't eat before you feel hungry in the day and keep yourself busy with deep work. If you catch yurself being bored or eating when you don't need it you are doing something wrong.
>Binge Eating & Skin Picking
First of all what wrong with skin picking? Been doing it since childhood. If it bothers you or you are overdoing it, keep a pack of gums and always take one out when you are about to do it. As for binge eating it's a sign of an unhealthy diet and circadian rythm which is actually controlled to a big part from the times you eat, that's why it's important to eat at the same times everyday and not eat before sleep and prioritize volume eating with lots of sodium and don't deprive yourself of sweet food, just change it up throughout the week with lower caloric options.
>Heart
It's over.
>Anxiety
Lol.
>IBS
Fricked because of years of wrong dieting. Fast for 5-10 days and then another 5 days of low calorie higher fiber food.
Glad I'm not living in the fattened states.
How many of those drugs are treating side effects from the other drugs?
>burgers get literal legal meth for a fake disease
When I told my polish doctor I thought I might have ADHD he told me to stop being a pussy and get more fresh air
You need to bulk up. Im 250 no one says shit to me
He's vaxxed, he admitted it in youtube comments
Bait
DHT is more androgenic than any other form of Testosterone.
DHT:
>makes your dick grow
>makes your muscles grow
>makes your bones grow thicker
>makes you more hairy
>gives you lower voice
>makes you more agressive and assertive
Only morons would call this a trash hormone. No wonder your haircel guru behaves feminine in his videos. He already is limpdicked feminized subhuman, but he's too proud to admit that he fricked himself up.
What's the point of having hair if your dick is dead forever.
post hair
only matters at puberty age, that hormone is also one of the reasons behind enlarged prostate gland
DHT is only androgenic in the areas it's produced you fricking moron (aka your prostate, skin, hair follicles etc). It's not androgenic at all in shit like your muscles. It's not an endocrine hormone like testosterone. In fact DHT is literally inactivated in all other tissues it's not produced in into an incredibly weak androgen called 3α-diol. In an adult male all it does is increase the size of your prostate and make you bald.
Wrong little lady. Post hair do we can see how good your hormone blockers are working. I think you wrecked your body and still have fricked hair.
Ok
btfo. funny how he keeps begging for hairlines, too ashamed to post his natty DHT hairline first, while too moronic to realize he literally self owns himself, only proving the importance to get on fin as fast as possible before the baldness progresses
>wrecked your body
pottery. I hope you realize that DHT wrecks basically every part of the body it is produced in, including the heart, that's why, even if he started too late to save his hair, he should still be on it, precisely to avoid wrecking his body lel.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31300720/
this guy actually gets it.
ppl simping DHT like its fricking super test have no fricking idea what they are talking about.
then why people on fin want to kill themselves after a while and their wiener feels numb
do you actually believe this shit? or just say it to poison the well. I've been using fin like 2 years and have zero side effects, wish I had started sooner but complete bullshit like this scared me out of it.
>be low test already
>take finn
>feel no change cause test can't be below 0
>oh wow this must mean there are no side effects and all evidence of the opposite is fake
i'm so sorry you had to find out you are moronic this way
it has nothing to do with DHT, otherwise dutasteride, which, unlike fin, completely nukes DHT to basically zero and also blocks 5ar type 1 involved in the production of neurosteroids, would have an infinitely higher incidence of side effects, not slightly lower. testosterone is the important male hormone responsible for libido, cutting it by half, not to mention nuking it completely, would noticeably affect every single person, not just 2%
it's literally the opposite
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023004/
> A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.
in reality little b***hes with barely detectable test are those who get sides from fin kek. sorry you had to find out this way you're not only moronic, but like a little girl
A lot of steroids are derived from DHT, you are just afraid of losing your hair and cope by saying it won't affect your muscles or dick (it will)
DHT derived steroids are completely different from locally produced normal physiological levels of DHT i don’t know what you’re trying to imply here
it raises free T and helps your muscles contract harder though
I wonder if this is why he looks more like a male lesbian now compared to like 4 years ago. Could just be him cycling off roids or something I guess.
everyone on fin looks like a male lesbian. even rob lowe.
any other celebrities/famous people being on fin examples?
Machine gun kelly, Elon Musk, cowboy Cerrone, that guy who play Micheal Scott in the office
every single male actor and model you can think of that isn't already bald
2 months stubble
He pumped himself full of Botox thinking he will be a pretty boy forever. He needs to grow a beard
Mike o hearn looks better than him
ohearn wears a hairpiece
the lucky few end up keeping their hairline but looking like an old ftm troon. the rest end up with depression, ED, breasts and beta behavior while still having a wispy cope combover anyways. idk if the risk is worth it bros.
troons with non existing testosterone are the ones who get sides from fin in the first place. see
and it's nearly perfect and just stopping hairloss, so the only people who won't are the ones, who take trannies like you seriously. otherwise it's a great substance for general health and longetivity and a natural-testosterone booster, worth taking even without any hairloss, and you literally can't disprove it, at best you'll nervously try to google something and paste some random sentence, which won't mean what you'll think it'll mean kek
post hair
you first. multiple people who got on fin early enough posted hair and I don't see yours yet. let's see those natty norwood pigtails
i'm not the one shilling hormone blockers. are your hormone blockers not working? what's the point of taking them if your still too embarrassed to post hair?
good thing finasteride is literally testosterone preserver
>what's the point of taking
even if I didn't care about preserving hair, I'd still take fin, as DHT wrecks basically every part of the body it is produced in, including the heart lel
what's the point of trying to argue if you don't posses the mental capacity? are you trying to imply that finasteride doesn't work at stopping hairloss? every single quality study shows otherwise, you're welcome to try to disprove it and even multiple people on fin posted hair, by your moronic logic. are you trying to imply that anyone shouldn't get on fin as fast as possible? you're the best horror story about what happens if they wait too long.
didn't read. i see you're too ashamed to post hair but for some reason want to convince other men to take the same hormone blockers you're on.
Why won't you acknowledge
?
Is it because it ruins your little confirmation bias?
are you implying that's you? why are YOU here shilling androgen blockers when you are too embarrassed to post your hair? they are obviously not working for you moron.
posted it in the last thread you were sperging in and I will post it in this one too 🙂
that anon is polite. if it's you post a new timestamp.
I am that anon but not
this one. I guess im not as polite as I seem sometimes all the vitriolic discourse around hairloss on the internet gets to me sometimes haha. Getting another time stamp would be a hassle in a half. My reason for posting was the claim that everyone that takes fin has chop job hair and no one posts hair. If you were the anon I was intending to reply to it was to demonstrate that's not true and your conceptions about fin are inaccurate.
why would anyone post hair anymore now once you've already proven to be a little b***h trying to pretend that all those norwood 0 fin hairlines posted don't exist while not even posting yours?
uhhmm.. K-kk-Kevin??
of course you didn't, it's been obvious you're functionally illiterate for quite some time. it's clear you're completely broken by the realization that you've lost your hair for completely no reason and turned into a troony in a wig, because you were too dumb to actually read the research and thought that finasteride "lowers the testosterone" while it actually increases it. that's why you obsesively cope by wasting 24/7 in every finasteride-related thread getting factually humiliated barely aware what's going on, unable to respond with anything other than some completely random empty ad hominems while tears flow down your face. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone where your real hairline is pictured , and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man who wore a wig is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably bald.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
lost
it's this or go bald man we've got nothing else
What's your hair good for if your dick is perma limp?
idk I'm a few years in and my dick still gets hard
is it actually proven or just a nocebo speculation?
yeah that's why when I took fin my
>dick shrunk
>muscles evaporated
>bones got shorter
>became hairless
>voice became light and airy
>became submissive and agreeable
becoming less conflicting has nothing to do with hormone levels, rather than someone's upbringing.
Take your finn, you sarcastic troony. I don't really care.
>antihairloss drug is sometimes used for men pretending to be women
no shit. more convincing than your wig, I guess. I know transgender therapy is so relevant to you due to your condition, but you should sometimes read something else than pseudoscience articles that promote "surgical interventions for gender identity disorder", like I dunno, actual systemic reviews or double blinded placebo studies posted ITT
>the second source literally says that trannies are the ones susceptible to fin sides
kek you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed
>can't post hair
>tries to convince other men to take the same troony drugs
What sort of mental illness causes this?
>GERM THEORY
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what a hack
t. slap head baldcel
yes, lets take voodoo herbs from youtube grifters, instead of proven and tested medicine.
he's absolutely right in this vid and his hairloss content is flawless, but he's proven to be moronic by shilling a failed experimental gene therapy (which reached the mainstream because of politics, not science) on "experts" word alone, backed only by really poor studies with contradictory numbers and replete with most obvious statistical manipulations and errors
>he's absolutely right in this vid
yeah especially defending Vioxx part
I got the vax and two boosters.
When is my dick supposed to fall off?
this homie shills finasteride and minoxidil and has made it his life goal to assault anybody who badmouths those products. wtf did you expect?
I'm so glad I don't have to choose between my hair and my dick
>but I've been using fin and my dick is fine!!
Frick off your dick has always been tiny and soft
Lack of empathy is honestly a nonwhite trait even assuming if what you said was true
You don't even know what empathy means. What you mean here is sympathy.
Fin for 3 years, 20 cm long dick
Im not sure what caused this random outburst of frustration from you, but i am betting you are brown and/or short
if you'd lost some ground before getting on fin, have you experienced any regrowth and how long after starting?
>outburst of frustration
what? I'm grateful that I don't need it. No frustration. You sound awfully frustrated, however
it's kinda an ashole move, but his Tim Poole thumbnails are just brutal kek
Getting on dut soon bros. Going nuclear hoping for some increment of regrowth.
good luck bro. I got some minor regrowth literally days after starting topical dut and RU, i.e. the middle of my hairline creeping down a bit and wispy hairs sprouting there up to the point where the middle of my old hairline used to be, but not much more 4 months later. it's weird, because first regrowth should start after months due to the hair lifecycle and I'm worried it's all the regrowth I'm gonna get
>I got some minor regrowth literally days after starting topical dut
lmao what a bs. it's impossible to get a "minor regrowth" in couple days even if you cut away your balls.
I realize it shouldn't happen and it seemed impossible to me too, but I some individual hairs started to slightly mature, to the point of being detectable by touch, amost immediately. I'm talking about a few hairs in the middle of my hairline, not any significant regrowth.
these "people" will say ANYTHING to get other men to take androgen blockers. What's the deal with that?
It's really strange
Well it wouldn't be strange if they were trying to sabotage others I guess, but I really don't think that's what they're doing.
Imagining that regrowth, but you can get some within a year after a hair growth cycle goes through. Dut has the highest rate of regrowth. Also has anecdotes of it nuking people's hairlines somehow.
I'm on cope palmetto, but thinking about moving on 0.2 mg fin, still not sure about it.. The results vary so widely that you don't know who to believe, in addition I'm also not a very big fan of pharma. you can find dozens of posts on r/tressless people complaining about their libido tanked and erectile dysfunction sticked for months after stopping fin
>cope palmetto
kek this is too real. it isn't completely useless, though, I noticed some real signs of decreased scalp DHT while on it, i.e. it stopped being so oily. probably still not enough to make any difference regarding hairloss
>cope palmetto
Literally >does nothing: the treatment.
>reddit
Yeah but that's a microcosm of neurotic bros. Yes you can get sides, no they won't break you permanently. Anecdotally I can say getting on fin increased my libido for a bit, then it went back to normal. Stress and lack of sleep affect my boners far more than taking some fin and I'm on 0.75mg oral and 2ml topical daily.
Do people actually watch his videos as they come out?
90% of the video is just repeated content from previous videos with a few new personal attacks thrown in, his channel name "haircafe" is purely to spite another channel called "baldcafe".
He spends an awful lot of time trying to convince people fin sides are overblown but then turns around and spreads stupid amounts of FUD over oral minoxidil, one step forward, two steps back.
Too many morons nocebo themselves trying oral min because they read too many reddit posts saying it's going to make your heart explode.
My erections actually improved after switching to dutasteride from fin. You'd think it'd be the opposite but maybe the increased free test did something.