What are the best roids to take for a lean physique?
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What are the best roids to take for a lean physique?
What are the best roids to take for a lean physique?
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>roids
Not roids, but ozempic, clean and dnp.
Thanks for the advice. I'll look into all of these. I've never taken any anabolic steroids or enhancements, so out of all of these, which would be considered the least detrimental towards health? Obviously some roids out there have harmful side effects.
Using steroids to cut when you’ve never used steroids to bulk is dumb. You don’t have enough muscle to even think about doing an enhanced cut.
Bulk on 500mg of test then PCT or cruise on 125mg then think about doing an enhanced cut [300mg of test, 25mg/day anavar, 100mg primo]
DNP is dangerous (literally used for explosives) but it does increase your metabolic rate so IN THEORY could be seen as a PED for cutting.
Ozempic does not. Ozempic makes fatties lose weight by suppressing their appetite. It's like the chemical equivalent of a gastric bypass. Unless you are so moronic you lack the willpower to just eat less, you should not even consider this as there is no upside for normal people with self control.
aspirin taken at a dose around 1500mg mimics dnp without all the adverse effects, like death
Never heard this before
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/aspirin-comparable-to-dnp-as-mitochondrial-uncoupler.6130/
Thanks
>The lack of small intestinal toxicity of aspirin is >puzzling.3
>aspririn shuts down the atp pumps in your cells causing them to lose energy as heat
yeah nah
have you ever tested your morning temperature?
believe it or not some mitochondrion are made for the sole purpose of generating heat, not atp
Telling someone to megadose aspirin without mentioning vitamin K is criminal. They will start bleeding.
not necessarily. the vit k is just a precaution
>take shitload of generic aspirin
>poison additives like titanium dioxide mixed in
>notice a little red in my stool
>stop
gee consuming heavy metals along with a strong acid fuxxed up my gut. i guess the acid was at fault
Getting lean is about diet
But roids that bodybuilders take to get crazy lean while retaining muscle:
Tren (ultimate cutting steroid for preservation of muscle)
Testosterone
Primobolan (less popular now because it’s weak and expensive but very good for retaining muscle on a cut and it’s dry)
Masteron (aesthetic look and dry)
Anavar (aesthetic look and some people/medical studies show that it burns abdominal fat)
Are we allowed to talk about roids on here? I mean it's a legitimate prescription for most. I desperately need help because I don't trust my doctor not to frick me up, I wanna have a good knowledge base before taking anything some pharma sellout gives me.
What's the opposite? I'm a twig with a naturally slim frame and I wouldn't mind putting on fat, it would disappear within a month or two without even needing to cut because my body simply refuses to retain fat. I've been lifting for 15 years, I have strength but can never gain size. Mostly I want to gain more strength but idc if I end up looking cut, I'd rather end up being as heavy as possible.
Also is there anything that can help a 30 year old boomer grow? Up or out, idc. I just feel like I'm stunted and small because I was starved as a kid. I've heard it's impossible to get taller past a certain age, but is making your bone structure grow out (wider shoulders, bigger wrists, etc) possible? Would that be HGH? I literally do not know shit about this other than overhearing brief mentions from guys who probably didn't know what they were talking about. I had a few friends in highschool who did tren with no post cycle and grew manbreasts, so I've always just stayed away from it all being too scared.
>Would that be HGH
Yesss, but I wouldn't recommend anon the benefits aren't worth the costs if you're focused on your bones and frame but the weird hands roid gut and such aren't worth it.
Anavar is the answer you’re looking for.
Do research yadayadayada
Steriods dont burn fat.
Anavar doesnt burn fat whatever some gay pubmed study written by some egghead dyel says.
OP needs to eat less not take drugs
But without anabolics you will just become an SS victim
nattys dont need steriods to cut because they dont have "gains" in the first place
Roids? No
Uppers! You can even stick with legal ones. Get a good 6-7 cups of coffee a day and smoke/vape nicotine. Not only will you not have an appetite, whatever you do manage to get down your gullet you'll just violently shit out.
Source: it's 10 am I'm on my second shit for the day and my 4th cup, going for a long run later where I will feel as light as a feather.
Bonus tip: bulk up to 30BMI, lift heavy, bike and do cardio then drop back down to 23 BMI (The optimal longevity/health sweet spot) stronger than ever.
>Get a good 6-7 cups of coffee a day
That's going to wreck your ability to sleep => crush your natural testosterone
Great way to lose weight, bad way to cut and retain muscle
>23 BMI
Even assuming you were getting really lean at 8%, that's a FFMI of 21, which is less muscle than most people have after a year in the gym. You're doing a sisyphean task of dirty bulking and suicide cutting resulting in a net 0 gain of muscle
Won't even do that blasting coffee: your cortisol will spike from coffee and sleep deprivation.
>ottermode chad but not when I abuse coffee
lol whats your ffmi i honestly think ffmi is catered towards bloating anyways
BMI * (1 - bodyfat%)
It's a measurement of the fat free mass (bone, organs, muscle) a person has
i know what it fricking is you dip im asking what is your ffmi
25-26 according to dexa (lightly roided)
>bulk to 30bmi then cut to 23bmi
pls nobody listen to this fatty you will end up having to do a huge cut, lose more gains then necessary and be left with stretchmarks and and shit health.
How is it I've never done any of this dumb shit and I'm bigger and leaner than you while being natty?
Oh that's right, because this is the fricking dumbest advice ever.
Epi and tren but it kills your liver.
DNP will kill you if you don't live where it is cold.
Your best bet would be Anavar and Test.
250mg test is all you need to actually cut on. Once you're basically as lean as you're going to get then tren and any dht (mast, primo, winny, epistane, etc) will give you that grainy hard look.
>250mg test is all you need to actually cut on
TRT doses (100-150mg) is more than enough for most people. Cutting natty tanks natural testosterone, they checked the testosterone levels of some guys competing in a natural bodybuilding comp and their testosterone was ~40ng/dL (reference range is 250-950)
what does IST think of the physique in OPs? i look like that but i don't like it because a. i look dyel with clothes on unless i wear everything XS and it makes me look like a trying hard homosexual and b. it's hard to get/keep decent legs at that low weight and low BF
>roids
how about you stop eating like a pig?
Is everyone on drugs these days
>everyone in the gym is on roids
>everyone at work is on adderall
how do I even cope as a natty
enjoy never crashing. never burn yourself out for this dysgenic rat race. spit in peoples faces and reject the illusions they sell their bodies to obtain
This. It's all tempting, but there's no free meal.
use testosterone sublingually and dab delta 8 24/7 to simulate adderall (it's $20 an ounce now) problem solved
Man, I feel this post.
>coworkers are caffeine junkies and on modafinil or other shit
>couple gymbros are on sarms and probably something else
>most of my immediate family on benzos or SSRIs
>I'm the one being questioned about my lifestyle choices
Same, it feels like half of people are on antidepressants or ADHD medicine or something. Then a lot of workaholics are always caffeinating. I have a friend who just told me that he's felt like he's gone as far as he can natty and is gonna start taking roids. Not to mention the legions of stoners.
Better this stuff than alcohol, I hope. I just wonder how the demand got so high.
Cardarine and Rad-140 stack
this, plus add in some mk-677 for recovery and sleep. Rad, Cardarine and Mk is my current stack
Where do morons like you get the idea that steroids will make you lean? They will do the exact fricking opposite.
>no mention of Ostarine
Literally low dose (12.5mg) ED for a month on a 500-1000 calorie deficit everyday and you will get shredded. I just finished my 4 weeks today. You don't need a test base regardless of what /fraud/ says but it's definitely the better than without for sure.
Pic related is me with more muscle and a bit leaner in 30 days. First pic doesn't show my stomach but my abs are actually visible now as shown in the second pic, which I took yesterday after pull day.
why'd you burn your natty card for this bro
Because natty is arbitrary and Ostarine at a low dose is the least suppressive PED there is. I just wanted to get shredded before hopping on some real shit for a bulk in a couple months. I also have a Mexico trip coming up so I wanted to see how low body fat I could get.
bro you are like 135lbs lmao, shouldn't be touching the stuff. Start eating twink
I'm 6'4 175 and pull 8/10 without effort, I'll be just fine lol
6'4 175 is still rail thin homeboy, eat a fricking cookie for the love of god. PED's are not for you, start eating
Maybe you should read my other reply then roidtroony
doesnt matter that you wanted to be "lean for a big cycle", you are rail thin, skin over bones. You can be 95kg lean as a natural at your height, START EATING BEFORE USING GEAR YOU LOSER
Nah, the people who use PEDs with a good physique usually start lean af so they don't have to cut as hard later. I'm fit to impress women, not some homosexual anon on IST.
Don’t listen to these jealous powershitters. You look fricking awesome brah
Thanks anon
I know my physique isn't amazing but I'm for sure the best I've ever looked, especially relative to when I was a power shitter and weighed like 215. Also getting the most pussy I've ever gotten tbh
Hell yea, nothing like getting mires from the qts just walking around post workout. I’ve been cutting on sarms as well
damn anon nice, looking great, what sarms u running? and how long?
>I'm fit to impress women
NGMI
>uhh look at my skinny body, frick me
>no i have no personality, no i have nothing to talk about, yes i am a weirdo, yes i will be clingy
do you have a before and after? I'm tempted to do a low dose cycle because I have no need to be a monster, but want to see if people actually have results with that
Here's another before pic. I didn't get insane results because it's literally 4 weeks on a low dose of one of the most mild SARMs... But for cutting, it worked great, and I gained muscle on a deficit. If you did 6 weeks and trained hard, you could def see even better results. The endurance and pumps are unfricking real tho. I seriously hit failure and can barely tell until I actually cannot do any more reps. It's insane.
Youre a drug abusing slave
Thx
Not sure how to feel about realizing a dude with a pretty comparable physique to mine is gassed up.
Is everyone on something these days lmao
looking good anon. Ignore the homosexuals.
fricking skeleton, please tell me you didnt actually roid for this? holy frick I hat dyels so much
looking great anon, good results for just ostarine
you only need like 250-300mg test to maintain some thickness/size/fullness when you lean out so you don't look like a skeleton at low bf% like nattys do. If you want that extra cosmetic effect add sdrol or winstrol
Dnp and anavar.
I am trying to become OPs picture. Before and after (work in progress)
you have more bloom and HDR in the before
homie do some fricking rows. terrible posture, 0 back, makes you look hourglass figure.
well done anon, looking great
This is the result of roiding to get lean without having any muscle to start with.
Looks like he didn't eat or lift like at all
Using steroids to cut is probably the most braindead, moronic thing you can do to your body. Bulk on test, deca, dbol and cruise on 250mg of test until you're whatever amount of leanness you want to get to. Literally nothing except tren is going to give you ample results on a cut and have fun managing the side effects of tren on a cut for your first cycle
ok how do I get a body like that?
Do all roids cause balding or shrinking of balls? Or is it just testosterone.
I wanna keep my hair. If natty is the only way so be it. Why are roids bad? Redpill me pls
hand burning over the stove like god intended
You can try ostarine as well. People here shit on sarms but its supposed to be good for cutting