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Ancel Keyes was gentile.
John Yudkin was israeli.
Root cause analysis
It always comes back to this without exception
>sorry about your foreskin, have some diabetes
Ronald Reagan you mean. Fricked us harder than any president in decades.
Seed oils
This. Replaced animal fats with toxic plant oils and sugar.
McRib
too true my brother, too true.
It's not a stress response.
Same year large amount of women entered the workplace
Which could also mean women stopped cooking proper, clean meals for their family. Ate slop at work, served slop at home.
Does not explain why it happened EVERYWHERE not only in US
Productivity/salary divergence is everywhere you moron
I also been taught that lie and I am an argie
>Does not explain why it happened EVERYWHERE not only in US
"United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs" from 1968-1977. by late 70s early 80s food manufacturers have started to replace fat in foods with sugar, creating low fat products. low fat/meat bad fad was started exactly where you see the inflection point. ultimately any garbage produces in the US will creep everywhere else.
Getting fat is not a stress response. Having fricked up hunger and appetite is though.
So people who have no discipline get fat in the modern work environment. The only exception would be manual labor. In many cases it makes sense to get to 18-25% bf for those guys.
>Getting fat is not a stress response.
It's not a stress response.
that’s just a graph of when the US stopped using the gold standard
>that’s just a graph of when the US stopped using the gold standard
Many such cases
This.
>Work even more hours for Shecklestein yet see a dramatic drop in your purchasing power
>No raise for years at a time
>Spending so much fricking time a work you're too exhausted to spend time cooking a good meal
>Default into eating goyslop because it's the quickest option for calories
When I told my bosses to get fricked and went down to 4 days per week at work it dramatically improved my diet.
Aren't they like, supposed to be top athletes and always ready for war and shit? Basically making training their job and being active for 5+ hours a day?
she retired or something
My heart unironically sank the first few times I saw what they did to Anko, she deserved much better. Kurenai and Terumī too, they got WALLed hard.
At least Hanabi is still carrying the series on her back.
Her name i literally a food, which she was constantly seen eating.
>people should never age
She didn't just age, she got FAT. I wanted hot hags God damn it.
>wanting the impossible
this is literally the kind of b***h that would say that
What kind of b***h is that? How can you tell?
seed oils
But the food pyramid was scientifically designed to make everyone fit and healthy.
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seed oils
>He thinks that the government agencies still has the best interests of citizens at heart
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NAIVE SUMMER CHILD
>Does not explain why it happened EVERYWHERE not only in US
Invented in Sweden. Then was taught as a diet concept to the rest of the world. Go figure.
>1992
this was literaly taught to me in school(8y-old) here in bumfrick eastern europe
at least now I KNOW(partly because of that) not to blindly trust "science"
The obsession that far was bad for you and pushing no fat high carb bullshit
t. keto lard
>picture of that lean muscular israelite mad that he has clogged arteries
You don't like keto? How come?
just told you why, mr. illiterate
Can you elaborate? What about keto upsets you?
Damn, I'd like to see those hangers.
He's just a vegcuck who thinks that making fun of another meme diet magically makes his own meme diet less ridiculous
Keto/vegan diets only help lose weight because it automatically disqualifies 90% of the disgusting junk that causes people to get fat in the first place. But you can easily do that while still eating meat and potatoes.
Wrong. "Healthy" carbs impede weight loss.
you think there is a shortage of vegan junk in [current year]? lmao
Americans finally could afford food
When my grandpa got married, 1 in 15 women in his age range were obese
Now it's damn near 1 in 2
The game was rigged from the start
bump
>bmi
>fat measurement
pick one
Fat cope
bmi literally doesn't measure body fat
Bmi is good marker of fatness on population level. Because the number of athletes and genetic freaks is negligibly small.
no its not
I don't think the picture is evidence of what you think it is.
what is it showing then
That, on average, Americans have slightly higher muscle mass % for their BMI levels. That is assuming, of course, that the research in question was well made and can be held as credible.
anon that's the point, bmi says that asians are the heathiest even though they have the highest amount of bodyfat but americans are unhealthy but have less bodyfat when at comparative bmi's
>when at comparative bmi's
Which they, on average, have one of the highest. The adverse health effects linked to high BMI still affect them, even if they have somewhat less body fat at a given BMI. A big strongman type dude will still be prone to have cardiovascular issues, even if he never touches roids once in his life, simply because hearts and blood vessels don't scale well with body size. Beyond that, we also shouldn't assume people.have more muscle.mass at a given BMI simply because they have lower body fat, bloat and enlarged organs (both damaging to longevity and consequences of poor life styles) can and probably do play a part. In that.
At the end of the day, even if Asians have a higher bf % at a given BMI they still, on average, live significantly longer than westerners. It might be hard to quantify how much of that can be attributed to genetics or lifestyle and even harder to actually explain how it happens, but they still live longer.
Did you read the paper?
They are saying that you cannot compare two populations body fat with same bmi if they are white and asian. They don't say anything about population dynamics, the data even shows that inside one racial group there is a direct correlation between bmi and body fat percent.
Also
>one study from 1994
For comparison, here a study from 2023 that stays that bmi is good indicator (but with some limitations ofc)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-30527-w
But it is heavily correlated. 25% body fat is fat as frick. You'd have to be in the top percentile not be a fatty and have above 25 bmi. Look at that graph, if you count 15% bodyfat as the minimum to be aesthetic how many markers are left at 25bmi?
unproud 6%er here. shitty BIA scale says 26-27% bf, but who knows how bad my visceral fat is, turns out shit's counted fricking manually voxel by voxel in dexa scans even
doesn't matter, gonna strength up, slim down, health up, unfrick my shit up
I'm 29 BMI right now. Last time I was below 25 BMI was when I was sub 10% prepping for a bodybuilding show.
Haha yeah BMI is so stupid. You know how these charts say everyone is so fat, but when you go outside you just see ripped bodybuilders and athletes everywhere and hardly see actual fat people at all? Yeah, stupid bmi, lmao
>Manufacturers stood to save money by switching to corn-based ingredients. In 1980, Coca-Cola began using HFCS in its beverages, and by the mid 80s most other soft drink companies had followed suit.
In place of using cane sugar, which has roughly the same glucose:fructose ratio as HFCS. Get your conspiracy garbage out of here. Anyone who points at a single food or nutrient to try and explain the rise in obesity are peddling a moronic agenda, you included. It’s not rocket science.
People are simply eating more of everything because that’s what humans do, we aren’t unlike the fat companion animal that is given excess food and whose hunger drive overrides the ability to think such that they will literally eat themselves sick. We live in the age of excess and ever growing convenience, and food companies are driven by a frivolously constructed for profit model to provide the population with even more easy, convenient, shiny new food products to shove down their gob.
Shalom, Corn Subsidies Internet Defense Force
>Anyone who points at a single food or nutrient to try and explain the rise in obesity are peddling a moronic agenda
Hey dude can you explain pic related without admitting that carbs in particular are the cause of obesity?
Surely we should be seeing a drop in obesity now, right?
No. The obesity rate won't drop until carb consumption goes back at least down to 1970s levels.
The metabolic damage caused by low-fat diets might be so prevalent that people actually need to go lower carb than that to escape their obesity spiral.
Source for that graph
seems like from this paper but edited to add in the obesity trends
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20888548/
They genetically modified the corn to be resistant to Round-up.
Pretty much this, but IST won't listen as complexity and subtlety are too much for autistic minds.
There's no one item making us fat. There are a shitload of things making us fat.
Why did it happen so suddenly? Something changed in the late 1970s.
There certainly seems to have been some kind of perfect storm of factors. I'm guessing it was a combination of
- Reduced physical activity, less manual labour in the home and workplace
- More available calories
- Food becoming more calorie dense
- The normalisation of ready meals and take out due to women entering the workplace instead of being home maker's
- The rise of multiple car ownership and unwalkable cities
It'd be interesting to see an unbiased study on this, i.e. one that isn't sponsored by Kraft/Mars/Coca cola saying "everything's fine, goyim" or some fat-positive feminist cherry picked anecdata saying "everything's fine, you white male scum"
>calorie dense
This is such a moronic meme.
Soda has a very low 'calorie density'. It's probably the single substance most responsible for the obesity epidemic.
>Soda has a very low 'calorie density'.
lol
LOL
Soda is mostly water.
Too many j*ws in this thread for my liking
>starting the obesity trendline 15 years after the increase of seed oils
soda is an abomination, probably the most unnatural goyslop industrial food ever made, imagine making something that's like 3x more dense than beer, how could you possibly lose weight ever drinking that
more sedentary lifestyle and jobs
The 70s and 80s was when food manufacturers stopped using natural cane sugar and started using corn syrup as a sweetener.
Don't get me wrong, you should avoid the sugar israelite as much as possible, but corn syrup and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I always thought there were like 3 billion people less 50 years ago.
Did every white person who existed in 1970 congregate on the same beach that day? Why is it so crowded?
Apparently it's a beach in Atlantic City, New Jersey in 1908. What else were people supposed to do back then? Not like they could stay at home and shitpost.
look at the way they’re dressed. do you really think that’s 1970?
This post reveals you have an absolutely terrible ability at estimating numbers and recognising time periods.
That's only for America, however the entire world is following the OP chart trends. If I had to guess it simply boils down to people becoming more sedentary and having access to (cheap) calory dense food. Move less and eat more, you'll get fat.
damn, shawtie in the umbrella askin for it
they changed the definition of obesity
also Mexicans
Bull fricking shit
Photos of people from pre-1980 exist, you know.
Deregulation allowing food companies to directly advertise to kids. It's why there's an entire aisle dedicated to sugary processed carbs with pictures of happy bunnies and leprechauns.
Happened under Reagan but IST is chud central so it's a really touchy topic for the polturds.
Why did parents let their kids eat so much sugar and processed grain?
Reagan emboldened them.
Just how Trump emboldens White nazis to run around attacking israelites for the last 10 years
If only, Joshua. If only.
I suspect that it's because the government told parents to stuff their kids with grains.
so they got fat from bread and Cheerios not coca cola, candy, pizza etc?
They got fat on all of that stuff.
They got fat on sugar, flour, and seed oils.
>Why did parents let their kids eat so much sugar and processed grain?
Because most people are morons and will buy shit for their dumb kid to get them to stop crying and b***hing. Having a kid isn't some grand achievement and it doesnt take any skill, it's just the end result of cooming into a vegana. I've known kids in high school that had parents that let them smoke cigs. Poor education definitely plays a big role and it's not like we're taught anything worthwhile on nutrition in high school.
>One (1) egg
Absolutely degenerate
>there's even jam - for fun!
>Everyone is fat because of Reagan
RDS is as bad as TDS it seems
Uh oh looks like I found one.
>fructose overload
>seed oils
>sedentary jobs
>entertainment
>political correctness
Urban issues arising like excess population, shitty transit and crime has gotten everyone less inclined to go out do stuff
The revolution in telecom got everyone working an office job and stuck at home watching a screen
Companies started cutting food ingredients' quality to maximize profit
Societies stopped shaming being fat and lazy
So... Suddenly everyone is sedentary as frick, everything has fructose and excess oil and people are special snowflakes and cannot be slightly offended under any circumstance
The result is worse than just being fat
The acute inflection point suggests it was one factor with a very rapid shift.
Reasonable people would conclude it's the government low-fat dietary advice. That's all.
It's fair to assume the major factor was the bullshit dietary guidelines indeed, but it's not far-fetched at all to account for a whole pack of bad practices that were introduced all at the same time
>Reasonable people would conclude it's the government low-fat dietary advice.
This would work if fat consumption would have dropped, but it didn't it actually rose. It's Seed oils, and an overall over consumption that happened with it.
Fat and protein consumption remained stable. Carb consumption went up.
This is beacause fat and protein are essential nutrients. You cannot remove them from the diet. Carbs are non-essential.
To cause obesity, low-fat and/or low-protein. To cure obesity, low-carb.
You can have same % of fat total yet of the fat have a higher % of sneed oils which is what
this graph and the one you posted would suggest. What I get from this thread is the causes are probably sneed oils + carbs + just general gluttony and degeneracy. It just seems like the combination of sneed oils and carbs are highly addictive as well as damaging to the body.
artificially added sugars is definitely some evil shit. not bad every once and awhile. if you crave sweets have a fig or a nice ripe orange. shit isn't hard.
jimmy carter started making everyone fat just like joe biden is doing now. the west is literally falling
It's when the first Millennials were born
seed oils
fast food
imagine gettinf french fires not fried in vegetable oil
THAT was the golden age of the planet
It's the soft drinks and alcohol. Snack food to a lesser degree.
Before 1980 people would consume close to zero liquid calories. Maybe milk. Or occasionally beer.
But since everyone is binge drinking and chugging sodas nowadays, it introduced hundreds of additional calories that weren't there before.
If there were no soft drinks and no alcohol, no one would be fat.
Prove me wrong.
Did soft drinks only appear on the market in 1979?
The key factor is that the government started propagandizing people to eat certain foods.
>Before 1980 people would consume close to zero liquid calories. Maybe milk.
False. Whole milk was a hugely popular drink prior to 1980. The rise of cheap cheese covering everything in America is intrinsically connected to the war on whole milk as suppliers attempted to figure out novel ways to make that waste (milk fat) into something that can be sold (cheese). And if you hadn't noticed, America and cheap cheese has been synonymous for far longer than 1980, which means that Americans had been consuming vast quantities of milk prior to that as well (as there is no point in forcing the American cheese industry if there wasn't an excess of milk fat by product).
True, I once wondered why "American Cheese" is a thing and discovered this rabbit hole. What the US state health department promotes as healthy is, surprise surprise, basically whatever the domestic producers are being subsidised to make at any given time. Used to be dairy, then grain, nowadays its maize (I.e. HFCS). Not a conspiracy theorist, but fricking FORGET the idea that the state will give you unbiased information to enable you to act in your own best interests.
This is very wrong, at least in England, you would see people consuming large amounts of beer/ cider (depending on location), drinking milk and buttermilk, many sweet drinks (later on) such as sweetened tea/ coffee and hot chocolates.
Home computers and household A/C became common. No reason to leave home anymore.
The government started banning all the effective weight loss shortcuts and cracked down on cocaine use.
Removed one AYDS only to release another.
Glyphosate
>crtl f diet soda
>zero matches found
no literally this is what started it. It started the slippery slope "diet fad" through food which in turn started to cause the bloating of america
Fast food, less manual labour
who made this graph? Why don't the colors match? It should be the same color for each age for men/women.
Goyfeed. Goyfeed happened. Just all around refined carbs, with added refined carbs on top of 'em, and seed oils to top it off.
Man this thread feels like it's part of a psyop campaign to convince morons to do the opposite of what's good for their health lmao
Ok but what do you think is healthy?
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
sneed oils happened
goyslop and top secret obesity rays that the government has mounted on satellites
Anyone else noticed that pretty much everything started going to shit in the west as soon as Reagan and Thatcher got in power?
Everything went downhill after the French revolution.
got off the gold standard
Gta Vice City released
Didn’t we get next level goyslop right around the same time? Like the food wasn’t necessarily healthy back then but it was a lot simpler
Yeah that's when the low-fat high-carb diet advice came about.
Companies adjusted their recipes to have less fat more sugar.
>a 1/8th lb meat burger weights half what 1/4th lb or two 1/8th lbs burgers.
Nice image. 1'8th of a lb of hamburger or 1/4th, is the same no matter what year it is.
I'm not entirely sure, but it may have something to do with people consuming more calories than they expend regardless of carbs, red meat, seed oils, or whatever cultists try to convince is bad for you.
A mix of
1) Food science maturing into essentially crack-like addictive substances,
2) the reduction of home-cooked meals for various reason leading to a rise of eating out
3) massive increase in a sedentary society
Now, what events lead to these 3 factors are multiple and up for debate as to which had a bigger effect (many argued in this thread), but really the direct cause of obesity would be these three main factors.
Women entering the workforce and people becoming dependent on processed foods
That was when they said transfats are good for you and started replacing animal fats with literal processed trash they have to chemically extract from plants.
Stupid:
>out of all these things that suspiciously happened at the same time that could possibly have been, I think it's this one thing
Smart:
>all these things contribute and they happened at the same time because the israelites orchestrated it
They banned lead in gasoline.
Fluoride was introduced into most public water supplies in the 1970s. Let that sink in.
They ate more calories than they burned
The CSPI (Center for Science in the Public Interest) falsified data that came to an incorrect conclusion that eating fat made people fat, and thus, pushed this as a "science" based organization onto food manufacturers who saw a golden opportunity. Remove fats, add dozens of cheap processed filler ingredients, and -wow- you'll cure obesity! Anyone who was alive during the 80s remembers the fat-free/low-fat trend that swept the USA, and as it goes, everyone got fatter. Partly because they started eating more of these foods that don't fill you up and digest quickly, and partly because they ditched their mostly-natural foods in favor of these "healthy" low-fat/no-fat options.
That was the true beginning. People were just starting to fatten up in the 70s and early 80s due to relative peace and prosperity and added convenience, but once a "science" organization ruined the food manufacturing space with their bullshit data extrapolations and conned manufacturers into making all the shit that made us fatter, it was downhill from there.
never been fat never will be
vaccines.
subsequently it was also when Reagan signed the bill to stop people from suing vaccine manufacturers for damages caused.
Boomers entered their middle-age years and their years of "rebellious" hedonistic excesses caught up to them
If you could read graphs you'd see it's going up among all age groups.