What is IST's answer to the rapidly shrinking global attention span?
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get off your frickin phone for 5 minutes
Useless advice. That's a bit like telling a heroin addict to stop taking heroin once in a while. You need COMPLETE SEVERANCE from the harmful stimuli of modern media, for a prolonged period of time (weeks or months) in order for the brain to heal.
Easier said than done, but you're basically correct. The level of literacy that was taken for granted when graduating high-school circa 1990-2010 will be considered genius/university professor territory in a few decades. Simply by reading (relevant and useful) books and staying away from the Internet, vidya, porn and TV you are giving yourself a massive advantage over the overwhelming majority of mankind. But who am I kidding...I'm posting on a basket weaving forum, and so are you...
Other people here have mentioned this recently, but it seems likely that the class divides in society are only going to widen. The plebes are leaving their kids' brains to rot on Instagram and Tik-tok, while aspirational and upper class parents are giving their kids perfect upbringings, Montessori education, dozens of extracurricular activities, adequate socializing with other kids, etc. The underclass is becoming increasingly dysfunctional while the élite will gradually become übermenschen, and this isn't even taking into account the effects of cutting edge medical technology and drugs which only the élite will have access to.
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>You need COMPLETE SEVERANCE from the harmful stimuli of modern media, for a prolonged period of time (weeks or months) in order for the brain to heal.
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im actually kind of excited for the future, seems like its going to be extremely chaotic and having 12%bf while not having a tiktok rotted brain should be enough for me to be successful with little to no effort
I actually predict the most talented people in the coming future will be the one who can go through multiple ideas quickly and multitask. Think about it for a second, we have AI that can draw pictures for us and every day other applications like that are getting developed more and more. Even as its been for the past 10 years, being a walking encyclopedia or calculator has already useless from the internet and smartphones.
The kind of people that will be using tech optimally going forward are not going to be the slow and hard workers that practiced regurgitating a process.
Seriously though, I just want to make myself clear: As AI tools and helpers develop further, your so called "non-rotted" brain is going to be too slow to keep up with real talents.
Zoomers are the first generation in recorded history to have declined in understanding of technology and ability to interact with it. They struggle to use even a computer file system gui, something designed specifically to make it as easy to use as possible. People don't understand the technology they are using and are having diminished agency over it. You're genuinely ignorant if you believe the declining mental health of the world is advantageous to those affected. This is not some boomer "those darn youngins" shit, society is genuinely sliding back in some areas despite the trends we are accustomed to.
Reminds me, I was watching a Dragnet episode, some old time copaganda. In it I saw one of the lectures to crooks the show was famous for, it was old Greatest generation fogeys talking to Boomer kids, Brought up how they expect everything instantly, "turn a knob, get entertainment, turn a dial for communication, turn a key and you're driving there."
I see how things have gotten as bad as they have. one study shows a canadian town cut off from tv untill the 70's scored better than their genetically and culturally similar countrymen in all intellectual and emotional measures.
>so did you finish that task?
>what task?
>you know the work you are supposed to be doing
>work? huh?
>the thing you are getting payed for
>I'm getting payed money?
yeah, I'm sure this braniac with his 2 second memory will be most valuable.
The market rewards rare skills and opportunities. As those who can concentrate deeply become rare, they become more valuable. The opposite is true for those who are easily destracted.
>I actually predict the most talented people in the coming future will be the one who can go through multiple ideas quickly and multitask
Multitasking is a lie and kids these days are having even less retention of what they were doing when they swap tasks
Eliminate distractions, read books, spend prolonged amounts of time on singular tasks
I've been making an effort to stop distracting myself so often, I got out for a walk yesterday (without staring at my phone) and suddenly came up with a solution to a problem I've been working on, its been a while since that happened.
>actually predict the most talented people in the coming future will be the one who can go through multiple ideas quickly and multitask.
My God, what a moron. Multitasking is a myth. Deep work is the only way to work.
Thats what I thought too but it doesnt matter how long you can read a book or watch a movie that shit wont get you a JOB
you still need intelligence to understand why having a working attention span is more than about reading genre fiction to
Im hoping for that scenerio too. Meanwhile Im getting older
They'll Harrison Bergeron you before they let you have an advantage
True but what I'm worried about is they are importing the third world at insane rates and its been going on for a long time. They are putting something like 70% of them in republican areas too. Despite your superiority anyone with any kind of standards is going to be outnumbered by people who can't even change the batteries in their smoke detector.
Everyone else being subhuman does not make you superhuman
Yes, except for the fact that AI will already replace most of the tasks you'd otherwise be trying to do.
my kids are going to be superhuman freaks because of my good parenting and genetics
Go IST more
>can't focus on vidya and teevee
Based ADHD is out here freeing Black folk from slavery and the plebbitor wants his chains back. Bleak.
Because they replaced it with tiktok. Now you can scrooll endlessly with 10-30 seconds clips
>ADHD
ADHD isn't real, it's a mere consequence of an overstimulating lifestyle.
Those "adhd" morons that "can't read a book" are always the same. After a month in prison or in the military with nothing to do most of the day, they end up being able to read any book for hours on end.
It's all about dopamine tolerance. We're not very complex creatures for the most part.
This is Type 2 Stimulation Diabetes.
Wow someone with a brain
how do i fix it? "just get off the phone" isn't as easy as it sounds after years of conditioning
You literally just have to put it down and walk away. Do you just do what your body does impulsively for everything or just your phone?
Walk into another room and stare at the wall and reengage your own thoughts for 5 minutes. Keep doing this everyday. Add more time. Write down your thoughts on paper.
You don't need to be connected to the hive mind at all times.
Can't get off your phone? Uninstall instagram, facebook, clash of clans, whatever it is that distracts you. Just uninstall it.
Can't stop gaming? Uninstall your games, uninstall steam, sell your gaming computer and pick up a laptop that is capable of doing whatever you need it to do and not much else.
It's insane how easy it can be to beat addictions when you just remove the trigger. I wanted to quit gaming 6 months ago, I didn't just say "ok I'll stop playing games", I went through my computer and uninstalled every single game, not even minecraft got a pass. I thought it would be tough, but it's easy as frick, I have ZERO temptation to play games now and I love being able to spend my free time doing almost ANYTHING else since basically anything is more productive and healthy than gaming. But I can guarantee you if I left steam on my computer it wouldn't have gone this way. It takes change to make change basically, don't expect anything to go well for you if you don't do something to put you in the right direction.
yeah this is how i quit gaming, i just up and put the computer in my closet until i found a friend to sell it to.
>how do i fix it? "just get off the sugar" isn't as easy as it sounds after years of conditioning
It's not easy, but it's simple.
Look into dopamine fasts. People do types of retreats to reset their dopamine circuits as quickly as possible.
Force yourself to go and take a walk and look at shit, be lost in your thoughts for a little, less is more. You'll lapse back into it afterwards but gradually push yourself into realizing you don't need nor want the constant overindulgence.
Travel to a remote shithole third world country and live there for 2 weeks.
Try unpluq, it prevents you from mindlessly opening apps. It helped me take that second to ask "do I really need to be opening IST/youtube/twitch right now or can I do something productive?"
This right here. Going for a walk or even sitting outside with no phone/computer/gamebox. Listening to the birds & wind and looking at grass and trees and flowers is all the stimulation you really need.
I still play vidya and shitpost on IST too though.
I got a 40 dollar flip phone from best buy in 2019 because my smartphone got dropped and died and at the time I was salty about social media. I'm still using the thing and have no desire to go back. I have my girlfriend's old iphone in a drawer and I SIM swap when I absolutely need maps to get somewhere which is maybe once or twice a year.
>awareness
In what situations are you suddenly doing this and why? that can give you a clue as to how to circumvent it or implement the stuff below
>make it harder to frick around on your phone than to do anything else
keep placing it far from where you left it, make it inconvenient to charge etc.
>find something to replace phone fiddling and do that
reading, some sort of craft, listening to podcasts whilst going on walks, whatever
>keep trying
it takes time to change your habits, falling off the wagon and getting on it a few times can also help cement it more so don't beat yourself up as long as you don't give up completely
Tbh it's difficult as society is kinda geared up to expect you to rot your brain now, people will ask you what you thought about tv series/movies, you're basically an outcast if you don't have a smartphone, everyone wants you to add them on random chat apps or social media.
But then most things worth doing are hard
I have noticed the following about myself:
>dopamine fasts are nice but they dont work. I have no problem spending 3-4 days traveling, having a walk. The habits come back quickly afterwards, and dopamine consumption is necessary to deal with the stress. I still do it.
>no matter how fried my circuits are, if I find a purposeful enjoyable task Im able to finish it. Mind you, grinding boring educational material wont do, it needs to be something with which I feel engaged. I dont have troubles to focus, and the life goes back on track very fast.
Yeah you need to work and built that ability. It's like saying you enjoy hiking but can't walk on a treadmill- if you can't always go hiking you're going to need to figure out how to walk on a treadmill
meditate
Lock my phone
App
Thank me later
delete your social media apps and accounts, deleting the accounts is important because you can use most of the apps without an account. your brain will fix itself within 3 months. first month and a half will be hard and youll have withdrawals.
you cant use most of the apps without an account*
I've read that turning on grey mode on your phone makes it boring using it and makes you less likely to scroll and waste time. Haven't used it myself, but I turned it on to check out and it was pretty boring.
it works and you can set it to a toggle so if you do need/want to take a photo of some nature you can still have color if needed
I don't use tiktok, this does not concern me.
The decrease in attention span is merely another consoomer obesity.
Stop eating everything.
Stop watching everything.
Moderate yourself you gluttonous frick.
i was a grade A student before discovering IST
I became one after IST.
You are absolutely NOT getting a solution from me, homosexual. Go farm information elsewhere, wienersucker. But before you do that, have a nice day israelite.
thanks for nothing then, b***h
i bet it makes you feel smart to point out problems without adding solutions
fricking homosexual b***h wienersucker
No, it makes me feel better to watch myself ascend to the top of the social pyramid by simply being based, jackass. I can't help you, nor could I ever help you, because you could never relate.
Lmao you aint ascending shit you gay moron you’re a terminally online IST lower who posts funny little images to accompany his gay opinions.
Kys.
>Lmao you aint ascending shit you gay moron you’re a terminally online IST lower who posts funny little images to accompany his gay opinions.
Kys.
A good video for anyone with a free 15 minutes.
Bonus: try to watch this video without going to another tab or pulling your phone out 😉
Whoops forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LChkQAn955Q
kek this homosexual rebranded from being a shameless Labor shill to off-brand Andrew Tate Lite?
Oh my god lol
How much does the Labor party pay him?
most people cant access the present moment even if they tried
It's more like that everyone is hopped up on some drugs, they need to go cold turkey.
If I can't focus on a movie, TV show, or video game, it means it's boring.
Imagine trying to actively watch the recent Lost in Space or Twilight Zone reboots.
This is definitely a factor, people keep recommending me things to watch and for the most part it's embarassingly bad.
When did people start settling for such shit quality in their entertainment?
Maybe it's because I look for stuff to learn, think or feel and so many people now seem to want something to numb them.
didnt get the jab, not my problem.
Grow up.
i'm sure i will
because i didn't get the jab
Lmao
Regulate your dopamine reception Black folks. Dont do multiple things at once. Reduce activities that are overly stimulative like sex, IST, youtube and any scroooolling shit.
Sleep properly.
how do you limit sex, youtube and IST? I personally just reserve them end of the day or every other day end of the day
I blame tablets and smart phones giving rise to the worst kind of entertainment. Boomers will say it's video games but we had those since the 80's and it doesn't make sense either since they train your attention span anyway (bless you tetris).
I wanted to take my nephew hunting and after less than 10 minutes of sitting still he asked if he could take his phone out. When I was his age I sometimes spent 5 hours hunting with my dad, sitting perfectly still and quiet and that was only 20 years ago.
Tl;dr
Shikata ga nai. There's nothing to be done. What will be, will be.
Not gonna read all of that
As two facts, the brain usually manages to accommodate itself to the current level of excitement, and it usually craves for slightly more.
In our modern times, we are always able to give it slightly more, and so the brain keeps asking for more and more until your life is falling apart due to being overstimulated.
Sadly, fixing this makes you extremely uncomfortable, as your brain demands what it's used to.
Myself, I managed to stop playing video games and watching porn in excess, and my brain is improooooving
>and so the brain keeps asking for more and more until your life is falling apart due to being overstimulated.
this is especially bad with porn
no one started out jacking it to gay midgets shitting on each other
>stop playing video games and watching porn in excess
>stopped video games
>only reduced porn
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>What is IST's answer to the rapidly shrinking global attention span?
TLDR
what solution to no attention
there, or do you need it even more condensed
just stop consooooming so much, watch film/play vidya only if you are actually interested in it
No one will pat you on your head for finishing another anime or 100% another unfun long sandbox game
I'd say on the contrary, you should finish the anime, and 100% whatever shitty game (You) play, because at least you are focusing your attention, and you aren't jumping around not finishing anything, not even things you like
thats better i would argue for these people staringatwallmaxxing is preferable
less consooming more sitting around deep in introspection tbh
Its like people are scared to be left for a minute with their own thoughts
IST is infinitely better for your attention span than shit like reddit or tiktok. No infinite scroll + the captcha on every post make 4chuds have a slightly better attention span than the average twitchreddittiktok addicted zoomer
Old problem that’s getting worse. Arguably the 24 hour news cycle and cable were forerunners. “Amusing Ourselves to Death” was written about that.
The problem: You have trained your brain to be a skimming machine for years.
The solution: Train your brain to read.
>but it’s le hard
Literally the fatty cope, here on IST. You spent years turning your body into a tub of lard or a skimming shallow smoothbrain. You want the solution to fix in minutes what you spent YEARS fricking up. You want a reward incentive and applause for getting back to a normal state. You “need” more incentives and carrots to motivate you.
Frick you. Change or don’t. It’s your call. You are the architect of your own misery, so choose to build a way out.
Good book. Reading is a great habit and a great way to get away from your phone/screens.
Also a decent filter socially. People who read books are interesting to talk to, non-readers think you're smart if you talk about something you read in a book. Just don't over do it.
Very simple. Less gadgets and gizmos, less pharma drugs, less recreational drugs, read more (fiction novels are the world's greatest tools for increasing attention span if you remove the things that kill it). It's really that easy but people are homosexuals and want some magical cure they don't have to work at.
I speak for all of IST and I think the answer is hardcore Black person sex with every schoolgirl who owns a smartphone.
Go back to gif, homosexual troony
With israelites, you lose
Personally, I don't use smartphones. Years ago I used to own one and a tablet. There's a big difference between sitting down at a computer and actually carrying it around in your pocket. It fricks with your dopamine receptors on a level that most people can't even fathom. They don't even notice how damaged they are until they lose access to their smartphone. They're addicts. I bet most of you have never tried going a single month without your smartphone. lol
Basically not my (or your) problem
Play chess. Not with the intention to the win the actual matches necessarily, but with the intention to stay emotionally stable BY NOT RUNNING AFTER ANY SINGLE THOUGHT THAT ISN'T RELATED TO THE BOARD AND THE PIECES.
I've been doing it for a couple of weeks semi daily against the 500 lvl bots on chess .com and I can notice that when my focus gets snapped I can come back to it more easily.
I guess this could actually be done with literally anything you do or play but I think chess is a better more streamlined environment given that zero amount of luck is involved in it.
Also read horror novels or some shit i dunno
For me, I'm currently quitting all kind of social media and my plan is quitting IST and similar forums and discord as well. My biggest issue is filling up the void that comes with it, I'm already working out but I need to find something else to do with my time. I have some projects I never got started with that I really want to do, so I need to set up a plan to actually get them done.
If you just look at it as an addiction, it's sort of the same with decreasing exposure over a period of time and filling in with something that's more healthy. In the end this stimulation addiction isn't different from any other kind of addiction.
Like we've said here for a long time, an important thing of finally making it is graduating IST. That's one of the big reasons all the great guys here left, and only the shit people are left. Glory days were back in 2011 and 2012, but the people who made this place great left. Or died in Zyzz's case I guess.
eradicate tiktok and all the endocrine disrupting chemicals and shit that ~~*they*~~ are insistent in putting in absolutely everything
my answer is that it's a skill issue
The cure is having something to do.
TV, movies, and single player video games are fricking boring. It's not that you lack focus, they might as well be chores except you don't really get anything done.
The big problem is a lack of things to do that actually benefit you. People used to have things to do by default. Improve your house, mow the lawn, work the garden, fix your car, make dinner, etc. Even when you had leisure time, you had somewhere to do it other than a 20x10 living room. Renting is such a huge catalyst of the modern plight that owning property for the purpose of renting it to others should unironically be illegal.
what multiplayer games are not boring? Last thing I played was Halo Reach
dopamine fast.
they are boring. they do nothing for you. aiming with your mouse is a useless imaginary 'skill'. man up.
I should have been more clear. I count online games as single player. Playing by yourself is boring.
Some couch multiplayer with friends can be a good time
>movies are boring
woah woah woah, hold your horses there partner
Butlerian jihad
let em die, unless theyre your family