a big part of playing sports and life is identity and categorizing things into "Us" and "Others". Bascially what is happening with these kinds of sports filled with insufferableness (climbing, distance running, cycling, crossfit, etc) is there is no meaningful "Us vs Them" team dynamic for casuals so it becomes an "there's us and then there's the public" dynamic instead which leads to that inflated sense of superiority and insufferableness.
if you casually play pick up basketball or soccer or flag football the us vs them is very clearly defined. You work with your team to beat the other team and then celebrate the victory or wallow in the loss together. The idea is the same with individual sports like tennis or boxing, but instead of working with other players you have coaches, trainers, training partners creating a sense of community driven by the same goal (help you beat the other guy)
with sports like climbing or cycling there is no "other" to band together against. Many times the sport is practiced privately by individuals, and the "community" isn't a team but rather a local club or collection of like-minded individuals (other climbers, other crossfitters). It creates a different sort of collective identity. There is no "Them" and the "Us" does not share a common goal (beat the other team) so the "Us" becomes the larger running/cycling/crossfit etc. community at large and the "Them" becomes everyone else who doesn't run/cycle/climb/do crossfit. And of course anyone who doesn't do the thing I like is stupid and missing out and I and everyone who does do it are smart and better than everyone else because of it
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no theyre both insufferable
I believe it bro , im pretty sure even rock climbing god Honnold is autistic and high energy ADHD or something and another alpinist guy who died a while back would just vanish for months at a time. It genuinely is THE sport for autists.
No the people who do a lot of indoor and outdoor suck
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My theory is that a lot of incels are just late bloomers who had some sort of childhood development issue that fricked with being IST at the right milestones
I remember being an asthma cuck and having one of the slowest mile times as a sophomore during the presidential fitness test because of trouble breathing and now today I just ran 5 miles at 6:30 pace
IST used to be the best board but I was cucked into IST and being groomed by homosexuals on IST like Scooby1961 back then
Because people that do this tend to think that it is an "intellectual" sport. The name that they call a route that they are unable to complete is called a "problem." As in "i'm working on this problem right now." And when you have climbed it, it is said that you have "solved" that problem.
So they think that this is some difficult intellectual activity and that by participating in the sport they are not just getting fit, but they are doing something with their brains, too.
As you've figured by now, it's an elitism that is present even if it isn't acknowledged. It's why you see so many wealthy white people doing it.
Why do you people give a shit. Especially homosexual OP for seething that people can do a sport they probably cant with their 300lb lardass. You losers are emblematic of the "gymcel" caricature. Let people enjoy what they like and find fun >Oh but they're dyel liberals
They're literally happier than you will ever be. They have friends, a social life, and something that keeps them active. Who the frick cares if they're dyel or not, they're definitely more athletic than 99% of this board which doesn't even lift. If you were to filter this specific thread by who could lift 1/2/3/4, 90% of the posts would vanish. If you upped that to 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5, there would only be 3 posts, and yeah I'm one of those. >It's an elitist sport >It's made for manlets/bugs
Why do you give a shit? It's because you're pussies. The post about boulder routes being called "problems" is especially hilarious. Clearly shows that the poster can't climb harder than 5.8/V0. Let people enjoy their own shit.
Climbing DOES have this stupid woke agenda tied to it, but that's not the sports fault, it's the fricking shit eating hippies in california who try and blend it into the sport. Most main gym chains BEGAN in cali, which is why you see this shit plastered everywhere. But also - who gives a frick? I climb with people who regularly make holocaust jokes and post on /LULZ/. I don't give enough of a shit about people minding their own damn business. Why should you? Just try and convince me why I should be seething, and b***hing about it.
i agree seething is bad and affects you negatively so you shouldn't do it, but leisurely shitting on people you don't like without getting emotionally invested feels good, so i do it
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Why do you people give a shit. Especially homosexual OP for seething that people can do a sport they probably cant with their 300lb lardass. You losers are emblematic of the "gymcel" caricature. Let people enjoy what they like and find fun >Oh but they're dyel liberals
They're literally happier than you will ever be. They have friends, a social life, and something that keeps them active. Who the frick cares if they're dyel or not, they're definitely more athletic than 99% of this board which doesn't even lift. If you were to filter this specific thread by who could lift 1/2/3/4, 90% of the posts would vanish. If you upped that to 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5, there would only be 3 posts, and yeah I'm one of those. >It's an elitist sport >It's made for manlets/bugs
Why do you give a shit? It's because you're pussies. The post about boulder routes being called "problems" is especially hilarious. Clearly shows that the poster can't climb harder than 5.8/V0. Let people enjoy their own shit.
They never work or their trust fund kiddies, and they always mooch off of everyone around them with 0 self awareness. Theres a reason why climbers have always been called dirtbags.
Lots of rock climbing where I live. A lot of these climbing areas are accessed by trails hikers use so I see these gays in the parking lot getting their gear ready.
They all have shitty cars with BLM and homosexual stickers on them and they all look like dirty wanna hippies.
Getting bigger and stronger is extremely toxically masculine and would imply you're a Trump voter, so it's the ONLY sport that beta low test numales can excel at while still signaling they voted for Biden thanks to the fact that being mediocre actually helps them excel, because the skinnier and lighter you are, the better.
>so it's the ONLY sport that beta low test numales
moron opinion, climbers have backs and arms that mog most gymcels. No legs or chest but that's not what chicks care about anyways, plus it's actually acceptable to talk to them and show off at a climbing gym >everyone in the building can see you and people waiting for them to finish are watching so it draws in all the attention prostitutes
this too, you can stare at asses all day without judgement
moronic opinion, climbers have amazing body control, its like calisthenics except you dont look gay and you develop an actually useful somewhat survival skill.
I'm very grateful that people like this have a containment zone of their own on a fricking rock wall. I used to work with these people -- one girl claimed the virtues of biking to work and completely remissed the fact that she was on ADHD/depression/various meds and probably a high dose prevents her from legally driving or being able to pass the test and tries to pass it off as a climate thing. (as I would later find out).
Another extolling the virtues of supporting homeless drug support / use centres. While this wienersocker lived in the suburbs and would never actually have to put up with one of these things in his community.
All software engineers who dress like peasants but probably out earn half the downtown getting high on their own supply.
Just a bunch of bullshit motherfrickers perpetuating even more bullshit into the world. I can't wait for AI to BTFO that industry and just general downsizing from DEI hiring.
I climb casually for fun and to make sure lifting isn't my only physical aptitude, but my wall has staff who are caricatures of insufferable liberals, and on the weekends a lot of the kids are genuine autists. Like, Naruto-running dorks who sprint up and will do the route you were about to attempt, because they can't pick up on social cues.
I believe it bro , im pretty sure even rock climbing god Honnold is autistic and high energy ADHD or something and another alpinist guy who died a while back would just vanish for months at a time. It genuinely is THE sport for autists.
AI just makes their job and life easier. A hiring manager or project lead can't really just type up a text prompt for the code they want and expect it to work and be put into production. You still need a software engineer who understands the stack, what the code is supposed to do, and how to string together the fragments that the AI spits out. It may advance to where it can do 90%-95% of their job, but you will still need a qualified professional to make use of the output and fill in the gaps.
that's all fine and good - whoevers left at that point will be the true sweatlords of the sweatlords and the geniuses of the geniuses - my point is all the ones in the middle who are probably just bloat and only add politics to the equation.
yeah and ai allows a manager to hire a single programmer instead of 10 to do the same volume work
considering how overcrowded the field already was ai is 100% going to kill it for 95% of people
The other 9 programmers in that scenario are work visa Jr. programmer Pajeets. Nothing of value is lost. The insufferable Sr. programmers will just get more competitive pay and a bigger ego.
I competed this weekend
Climbs are graded and the person who climbs the hardest ones wins
hard to put into words ill try my best
a big part of playing sports and life is identity and categorizing things into "Us" and "Others". Bascially what is happening with these kinds of sports filled with insufferableness (climbing, distance running, cycling, crossfit, etc) is there is no meaningful "Us vs Them" team dynamic for casuals so it becomes an "there's us and then there's the public" dynamic instead which leads to that inflated sense of superiority and insufferableness.
if you casually play pick up basketball or soccer or flag football the us vs them is very clearly defined. You work with your team to beat the other team and then celebrate the victory or wallow in the loss together. The idea is the same with individual sports like tennis or boxing, but instead of working with other players you have coaches, trainers, training partners creating a sense of community driven by the same goal (help you beat the other guy)
with sports like climbing or cycling there is no "other" to band together against. Many times the sport is practiced privately by individuals, and the "community" isn't a team but rather a local club or collection of like-minded individuals (other climbers, other crossfitters). It creates a different sort of collective identity. There is no "Them" and the "Us" does not share a common goal (beat the other team) so the "Us" becomes the larger running/cycling/crossfit etc. community at large and the "Them" becomes everyone else who doesn't run/cycle/climb/do crossfit. And of course anyone who doesn't do the thing I like is stupid and missing out and I and everyone who does do it are smart and better than everyone else because of it
sorry for long post
Quantifying achievements in a competitive environment can cause you to push past your comfort zone and improve faster
Sportsball team dynamics are homoerotic Black person tier egoism and your reddit spaced blog post is 2 digit IQ dog shit
"reddit spacing" is the just the natural way to space out your posts when you are typing on the computer. You and anyone else who complains about it are newbies who weren't here when IST was actually a good board. It's bizarre that you (rightfully) get upset at reddit tourists and yet as a phone poster you have contributed to the downfall of this board just as much as the redditgays
yes
lifting, climbing, and running are physical activities, but that doesn't make them sports. They're about as close to a sport as chess is, just from the other direction.
Incorrect. Sport involves the seeking, pursuing, and killing of wild animals and birds. If you saddle up your pony & head off over the moor after a fox, you're engaging in sport.
You Yanks like to confuse this with games. Games are where you have some kind of competition set up with rules and points, like gridiron, or bouncyball.
>climbing casually once a month or every few months
Based >climbing every week as your primary strength exercise while having other cardio
Okay maybe >climbing multiple times a week
You are gay
a big part of playing sports and life is identity and categorizing things into "Us" and "Others". Bascially what is happening with these kinds of sports filled with insufferableness (climbing, distance running, cycling, crossfit, etc) is there is no meaningful "Us vs Them" team dynamic for casuals so it becomes an "there's us and then there's the public" dynamic instead which leads to that inflated sense of superiority and insufferableness.
if you casually play pick up basketball or soccer or flag football the us vs them is very clearly defined. You work with your team to beat the other team and then celebrate the victory or wallow in the loss together. The idea is the same with individual sports like tennis or boxing, but instead of working with other players you have coaches, trainers, training partners creating a sense of community driven by the same goal (help you beat the other guy)
with sports like climbing or cycling there is no "other" to band together against. Many times the sport is practiced privately by individuals, and the "community" isn't a team but rather a local club or collection of like-minded individuals (other climbers, other crossfitters). It creates a different sort of collective identity. There is no "Them" and the "Us" does not share a common goal (beat the other team) so the "Us" becomes the larger running/cycling/crossfit etc. community at large and the "Them" becomes everyone else who doesn't run/cycle/climb/do crossfit. And of course anyone who doesn't do the thing I like is stupid and missing out and I and everyone who does do it are smart and better than everyone else because of it
I think you're right. Climbing rarely involves direct competition so climbers derive their sense of achievement at the expense of non-climbers (or casual climbers, or beginners). And because so many climbers are leftists in the first place, that fits EXACTLY into their existing playbook of espousing equality and inclusively, while also being the most toxic, gatekeeping c**ts you can imagine.
Im a fit incel
I like shooting the shit with gamer nerds online when i play online games but i prefer talking to gymcels or normie former jock types irl. Nerds irl are insufferable homosexuals for some reason
surfers hate other surfers because of the dispute over who gets which wave
I've seen it live, people going apeshit on eachother because "you crossed me" or whatever
it's also only 2 types of guys: chill bro who never gets angry or the dude who is already malding at 6AM and he's not even past the lip break zone
This is mostly wrong. Rooning creates common goals. We advance faster when doing it together. There are competitive races and we objectively measure time and speed and many other metrics that you sir are unaware of.
This is mostly wrong. Rooning creates common goals. We advance faster when doing it together. There are competitive races and we objectively measure time and speed and many other metrics that you sir are unaware of.
Climbing is identical but most people's experience with it is casually visiting the rock gym on their own and giving up before they get good, in which case this dynamic doesn't exist at all. Find a group of people that are actually passionate about climbing hard and it's:
1. Not very liberal
2. Mostly people with team sports backgrounds anyways
3. Prosocial, you have weekend road trips with friends to look forward to where you push yourself to your limit and push your friends to try hard too
No the people who do a lot of indoor and outdoor suck
Im a fit incel
I like shooting the shit with gamer nerds online when i play online games but i prefer talking to gymcels or normie former jock types irl. Nerds irl are insufferable homosexuals for some reason
My theory is that a lot of incels are just late bloomers who had some sort of childhood development issue that fricked with being IST at the right milestones
I remember being an asthma cuck and having one of the slowest mile times as a sophomore during the presidential fitness test because of trouble breathing and now today I just ran 5 miles at 6:30 pace
IST used to be the best board but I was cucked into IST and being groomed by homosexuals on IST like Scooby1961 back then
This was the cliffs at gowanus in brooklyn lmao, they kept on setting these fricked up dynamic crux moves at the top of boulders for the first year it was open. Probably stopped when this incident happened lol
Because people that do this tend to think that it is an "intellectual" sport. The name that they call a route that they are unable to complete is called a "problem." As in "i'm working on this problem right now." And when you have climbed it, it is said that you have "solved" that problem.
So they think that this is some difficult intellectual activity and that by participating in the sport they are not just getting fit, but they are doing something with their brains, too.
As you've figured by now, it's an elitism that is present even if it isn't acknowledged. It's why you see so many wealthy white people doing it.
The majority seem to be hyper-liberal which makes them a combination of the following: vegan, feminists, LGBT and BLM supporters, upper middle class, and usually highly educated. Often they work in tech which gives them an air of superiority like most tech workers.
They are usually white and basically make up problems since they have none.
I hope nobody actually believes this thread. Maybe it's true on the west coast, where I'm sure there are more climbers, but the average west coast person in general is already more likely to be the raging liberal that you all fear. I've been climbing on the east coast for five years, and all my gyms have seemed to have a pretty balanced clientele, in literally all ways. You can find every type of person at the rock gym, and the cool part is that even the people you hate the most will be relatively strong. Rock gyms are helping (a) make fitness cool again, and (b) forcibly reminding people that obesity is unhealthy and limiting. So don't spread this shit about climbing, unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot.
>femoid looks on with indifference as he starts climbing without a rope >looks on with indifference as he's laying face down on the floor
Love from Kazakhstan.
i climbed often as a teenager. in that time, i was very open, and made many friends at the rock gym. we were lucky to have an extremely accommodating space, and it attracted skilled climbers. one of my friends decided to randomly go out alone and free solo a lead route in a remote climbing area. he fell and died. his name was eric metcalf, and i regret to say he died because of this mental illness--a cult like obsession with the outdoors being some spiritual awakening zone. climbing is an amazing exercise. there's nothing else to it. but due to its outdoor nature, it's at the intersection of kombucha brewers and other crunchy people. this is the problem with climbing that will never be resolved.
Eric Metcalf was climbing with three friends and died in an entirely preventable rappelling accident. Nothing to do with free soloing. He threaded his rappel device incorrectly.
>I'm belaying ^_^ >Gonna look away from my climber for a bit 🙂 >Hey that guy forgot to hook in >Oh well lol >Oh shit a crowd is forming I need to express concern and fit in
I hope nobody actually believes this thread. Maybe it's true on the west coast, where I'm sure there are more climbers, but the average west coast person in general is already more likely to be the raging liberal that you all fear. I've been climbing on the east coast for five years, and all my gyms have seemed to have a pretty balanced clientele, in literally all ways. You can find every type of person at the rock gym, and the cool part is that even the people you hate the most will be relatively strong. Rock gyms are helping (a) make fitness cool again, and (b) forcibly reminding people that obesity is unhealthy and limiting. So don't spread this shit about climbing, unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot.
> (a) make fitness cool again,
Until memberships are planet fitness level pricing , it's always gonna be some bougie shit that never catches on unless you live in like a UTAH or Cali where outdoor spots are everywhere and even when it does , unless its a massive upswell , all it takes is one crew of narcissistic vegans to just spoil your favorite spots and hang up the shoes.
> forcibly reminding people that obesity is unhealthy and limiting
In what universe is a motor scooter fattie admiring rock climbers? Completely different set of issues you are coping to make a point with, you mean reminding young people not to get fat - bodybuilding already does all that on social media.
> So don't spread this shit about climbing, unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot.
Ah yes - climbing will save the world, just like your vegan meat and software that promises to change the game. you are a holier than thou c**t that can't handle slander to your favorite inconsequential hobby and masquerading it as a benefit to society - nothing more or less. The world was already going to fatten or not fatten long before climbing will ever matter to the masses.
You and many others in this thread need to go outside. There are a plenty of obese and overweight people in my gym, and many of them are young and still have a decent chance of losing the weight. People bring their friends climbing on guest passes, and even someone who is fat wants to try because they saw a video of it and it looked fun. Although it's not true, a regular gym is locked in many people's minds as a cruel, tiring place that requires willpower. The rock gym doesn't face as much prejudice in people's minds. Vegan meat is poison, and I hate tech culture, so I don't know who you're trying to lump me in with. My inconsequential hobby is growing fast, and it's not saving the world, but it's definitely helping counter everything that's destroying it. Grouchy butthole.
I started climbing in November of last year and whilst I do agree with a lot that is said (tons of trannies/lefitism everywhere, bizarre gym goers who had a weird passive-aggressiveness to them), I can't help that it's a lot of fun and a long road of progress which gives a sense of accomplishment just like lifting. the gym I go to is a 3 in 1 with a yoga studio, huge climbing section, and great lifting area with 8 squat racks and freeweights/various machines
From personal experience, the better I'd get at bouldering, the worse my cardio, strength, speed, general musculature and bodyfat, etc.
I'm guessing it's all the fatigue without any of the relevant stimulus. It's shit for strength and shit for cardio.
Ive made great progress in the gym (bench and dips went up, deadlifts feel strong) while losing weight.
I lift one day, climb the next with rest days when needed. I superset grip training with presses and finish with kettlebell swings for cardio.
You need to offset the pulling from bouldering. Also, I either take breaks between boulders or just traverse easy routes for endurance. I rarely boulder to failure.
it's a trend. it got popular with people who follow trends. these people don't have well defined personality, and that's why they follow these trends. they're homosexuals with no real passions and that switch around hobbies to fill their empty personality.
realistically, if you were to get passionate about your hobbies, how many could you actually develop to the point where they have depth, and you're skillful and can do things that others can't?
not many.
these people go around switching hobbies and never developing based on videos they see on Instagram, where they get programmed to do so. why?
because it makes them better consumers. they go around many different hobbies and buy stuff for every single one of them, and then let it gather dust in the house.
so that's why. they follow trends because they actually lack real passions. this year they're climbing, last year they were playing padel, the year before getting tattoos and traveling. at some point they even got into videogames, and DND, and Netflix TV shows like Wednesday, and listen to imagine dragons.
then they left, and moved onto the next Instagrammable thing.
Rock climbing is the kind of niche athletic activity that seems way more intense than it is. Sure, it requires significant grip strength and a generally decent level of fitness, but it doesn't require a shit ton of effort to get into, nor does it have a significantly high skill ceiling for the majority of climbers (outdoor climbing and competitive climbing notwithstanding). In other words, you can make it a ~lifestyle~ and seem all sorts of outdoorsy and worldly while actually just fricking around on a wall once a week.
Moreover, one big aspect of it - that others have already noted - is that it isn't competitive. There is no real pushback on being shitty, and everyone is supportive. Very little testosterone.
That said, I should clarify - it's still fun to do and something worth trying. Just can't become one of those guys. Ditto for stuff like SCUBA diving, skating, whatever.
>these people go around switching hobbies and never developing based on videos they see on Instagram, where they get programmed to do so. why?
This is a bit of a bad take. Sure, people are flighty and try stuff for a week while dropping it. That said, people should be encouraged to try new shit and see if they like it.
Case in point, I do a variety of sports, and I'd love it if people showed up to give shit a shot, even if they dropped out after a week. I'd rather have an influx of new people rather than a stagnating sport.
>Rock climbing ]seems way more intense than it is.
You've literally never touched a crag in your life. If you have, it was probably with some climber who took pity on you and brought you up a 5.3 outdoors. I know this because you say- >nor does it have a significantly high skill ceiling
The number of people who climb above grade V10/5.13a outdoors is astonishingly small. 90% of climbers will never reach that level. And that's not even where it's capped. Climbing grades are exponential. The number of people who can climb V16 you can count on both your hands. It requires more than just >Decent grip strength
I'm a weak ass climber compared to the pros and even I can hold my bodyweight on just a few of my fingers for more than 10 seconds on a 20mm edge. >There is no real pushback on being shitty, and everyone is supportive
Tell me if this scene sounds familiar: >Be you >scrawny lean ass >going for 3x10 on bench lmfao 1pl8 >IT's all you brother >You sweat, you seethe, you fail the rep >It's okay brother, look at your sick pump
That's literally all modern gym culture is, and nobody on this thread will ever bench more than 3 plates, or deadlift 5. Who gives a shit? You're just shitting on others while you're probably some lard ass who doesn't touch grass, let alone rock.
I have to admit that most guys that I see in the climbing place seem like the typical hipster/lowtest/numale hater of traditional masculinity skinny sticks but I dont really care about them anyways. My and my bros climb once a week and we are "toxic" males as in break balls constantly but I'm starting to see that few of the stickyboys are starting to gravitate towards us.
So i guess my point is that there's hope for them
Here in Britain I've been to a bunch of gyms and seen all sorts
I know a guy who is genuinely trust fund set up for life and who doesn't work, just climbs
I've seen I think two gyms with hanging troony flags, and my home gym has what I think is an actual troony on staff (maybe just a bloke trying to look androgynous, he's a twat anyway)
But you also get lots of boomer climbers who are alright, and you see lots of shredded guys too
Few jacked guys, if you're jacked you have to be a good climber too or dyels will look down on you for not being skinny. I've seen a guy who climbs with a weighted vest on who looked pretty good, if you can get jacked and good at climbing you mogg and can't be touched
As far as general homosexualry I don't see much, I feel up my girlfriend on the bouldering mats to keep any wandering homosexuals away from us, like garlic for vampires
It's just the popular thing right now. It also comes with its own culture of being a vegan/hippy/progressive/dyel/etc. So what happens is that all of the NPCs pile onto whatever the popular thing is and then they adopt the cultural norms of the new group that they identify with. Sucks for me because I've been climbing since I was a kid in the 90s and I've always hated the "climber culture" that started to evolve in the 2000s.
It really is a fun sport. It takes my mind off of things, and sometimes I can just chat with people, which helps as a remote worker. It's true that it can be cultish, and I wonder why that is. I don't like how much of hippies the people are, or how it attracts so many lesbians and just weird people in general.
I love complementing climbing with lifting and swimming. You get mad mires from women if you’re not a dyel bugman or techloser. Since climbing I can do 40 pull-ups. Powersharters can’t even walk uo a flight of stairs without having a heart attack kek
climbing gyms in cities attract the most numale beta soi homosexuals (male and female)
in my two gyms nearby only families, athletes and old people climb so it's really comfy and has none of the lgbtqhiv citygay shit
I don't climb because who cares, but objectively, climbing is probably the most human sport you can imagine. It utilizes our bodies natural inclinations (we evolved from climbing species), it's a trial of both body and mind, it requires specialized knowledge and certain character, and challenges you to overcome fear. Definitive white man sport.
it's recent. kai lightner is a good example. i used to climb with him when he was a kid. now i see him doing interviews talking about the struggle of being a Black person in a predominately white sport. makes me want to become the greatest climber so i can get a pass on being as overtly and openly racist as possible for the lulz
It would be endurance running. You know the thing we evolved to do. Honorable mention to any sort of accuracy throwing, something we are by far the best at.
Its based as frick, like 80 % of people that climb are dyels and shit at it so you get to mog them 247 with your looks and skills once you are decent
Think about it, its like if people took turns in doing one rep maxes at the gym, 24/7. You just wait until someone has failed a climb, then go and do it yourself so they see how much better you are. They dont even register it as you showing off and them getting mogged, they think you are helping them by showing how its done
Its also just fun, climbing taps into your inner monkey and survival instinct
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Why do you people give a shit. Especially homosexual OP for seething that people can do a sport they probably cant with their 300lb lardass. You losers are emblematic of the "gymcel" caricature. Let people enjoy what they like and find fun >Oh but they're dyel liberals
They're literally happier than you will ever be. They have friends, a social life, and something that keeps them active. Who the frick cares if they're dyel or not, they're definitely more athletic than 99% of this board which doesn't even lift. If you were to filter this specific thread by who could lift 1/2/3/4, 90% of the posts would vanish. If you upped that to 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5, there would only be 3 posts, and yeah I'm one of those. >It's an elitist sport >It's made for manlets/bugs
Why do you give a shit? It's because you're pussies. The post about boulder routes being called "problems" is especially hilarious. Clearly shows that the poster can't climb harder than 5.8/V0. Let people enjoy their own shit.
we are shitting on your hobby because you are a privileged frick who doesn't even know how many layups he's been given and still find a way to be smarmy and an butthole about it by larping as a climbing hippie. Fundamentally disingenuous.
I don't think anyone actually shitting on rock climbing actually went that hard on the sport itself - most people seemed to be dissing the people associated with it.
This is highly unrelated to the thread but it drives me nuts: I'm fairly woke for IST standards myself but the way people in my circle accept trannoids comes off as extremely performative and two-faced. Like, bros, we can all see 99% of trannies look like clowns and 100% of them is mentally ill; pushing them further into their delusional world (and into debt) is just plain cruel.
To stay on topic true and honest lesbians love climbing for some reasons, male trannies calling themselves lesbians shy away from any sport, which makes the whole "womens bathroom" thing even more moronic.
I'm not a hippy. Frick liberals. But frick gymcels too. You're all different sides of the same seething pile of shit.
i agree seething is bad and affects you negatively so you shouldn't do it, but leisurely shitting on people you don't like without getting emotionally invested feels good, so i do it
Based. But let's face it - most people on here are seething. They see fit, athletic individuals do shit they can't do, and rationalize it as a "low test" sport with a "low skill ceiling" which is invaded by "modernity". As if modern gym culture wasn't the same shit which feeds looksmaxxing inceldom nonstop. >Honestly he’s not the problem , it’s people like him that larp as enlightened beings purely for accepting trannies
Trannies will never be women.
It doesn't require much strength to start getting into it. it just requires being skinny. You do have to eventually get pretty jacked to be really good though. Weak homosexuals will gravitate to a sport that they can actually do.
If gyms didn't downgrade real boulders, it'd be more filtered. In a gym, most people can do V2/V3 their first day. Sometimes even a V4. Outdoors, I'd be surprised if anyone could get a V1 their first day, and astonished if anyone could do a V2. You'd have to be truly gifted to send a V3 outdoors your first day.
It doesn't require much strength to start getting into it. it just requires being skinny. You do have to eventually get pretty jacked to be really good though. Weak homosexuals will gravitate to a sport that they can actually do.
Crampons? Check! Woolen knee socks? Check! Everest, here we come! Not to worry chum, I've packed a celebratory draft of ginger beer for the summit :*~~
That bullshit about removing climbing shoes is moronic. Like, you think my regular shoes which have been on the subway, on dirt, mud, rain, snow, and have literally stepped in dog shit, are cleaner than the gym shoes that have only ever touched gym holds? >but chalk
Is water soluble, and ridiculously easy to clean dry with a vacuum. Climbing shoes are NOT fricking dirtier than regular shoes. Once had a prick tell me to remove them while I was finishing up at the locker room and it pissed me the hell off. When I told him, "you know my friend right there is wearing regular shoes. We just got off public transit where a homeless schizo vomited. Tell him to remove his shoes".
You should remove your climbing shoes so you don't track bathroom floor poopoopeepee onto the mats and walls where people put their hands and faces, cutie. Not because they're particularly dirty.
Who the frick is stepping in piss and shit? Okay, urinals sure don't go near. But the entire locker room + shower at my gym as a "no climbing shoes policy". That's moronic.
Somehow it got mixed up with liberal pretentiousness. It was not even that long ago when the van life type sports- surfing, rock climbing, etc- were apolitical and mostly just people who didn’t want to be a part of the grind. Now it’s like an msnbc talk show whenever you’re around a group of them. What’s weird is they’re some of the most white culture dominant sports there are
What does that have to do with the sport? There are plenty of liberal leaning people in weightlifting, does that somehow change lifting for you? Does the liberal pretentious rub off on you when you're doing deadlifts?
I guess we should all just shit on each other based on the associations of the people in our respective sports. We should also stop going outdoors, plenty of libuhruls go outside, guess that's off limits now too. You're too based for the rest of us, but please, stay in your lane. I'll be outside climbing rocks.
Look I don’t really care. If anything rock climbers being arrogant about climbing while being absolute skellies for the most part annoys me far more than the politics. But like it or not the culture affects the sport and the environment in which that sport is practiced. Ie bodybuilding tends to be pretty conservative. Not necessarily in a republican sort of way but in a no nonsense masculine anti moronic postmodern take no responsibility or accountability bullshit kind of way. Basketball is dominated by black culture so lots of pickup games are filled with people acting like moronic Black folk. Therefore the vibe in most climbing gyms is that it’s full of liberal overconfident dickheads. It just is what it is.
not that anon but in what frickin way is a men's beauty pageant republican and masucline lmao. u're both gay lol but it's undeniable that bodybuilding is homosexual as frick and the opposite of masculine
Have you been on fit? Looksmaxxing/Bodybuilding culture is literally a culture of homosexual dyels or overweight lardfricks telling you how your program isn't optimal and then whining about never getting laid. Picrel. >No anon, you gotta feel the burn >Don't do GOMAD >Starting Strength is a meme >Powershitters
Going to the gym, getting your heavy squats in, and walking the frick out is based, masculine, high test, but nobody fricking does it. Tell me anon, what's the heaviest you've squatted? I'm a rock climber, and by virtue of you posting on fit, I probably squat more than you for reps. >IST gets triggered when you use 400lbs as a bar for squatting a decent weight
Seethe. For as liberal and moronic as a few of the obnoxious ones are, at least rock climbers aren't antisocial incels. Their culture is associated with being snobby, sure, but better that than fricking disgusting, the loser archetype which screams "I have no social skills and need to looksmax to have meaning". We're all brothers in autism here man, but ffs climbing isn't any worse than any modern college gym.
>wew I had a whiff of some greasy pussy now everything I don't like is incel look at me pussy holders I'm with the program let me have a sniff
Pic related: girl out lifting you, but not me.
See where I am going with this? No sniffies for you, anon.
Reading this gave me autism. >Acts like 220kg for reps isn't something achievable in 2 years of lifting.
Try again anon. Wait actually... are those pounds? Is this a joke?
Fit isnt representative of the gym community
Most gym bros have social lives
Sure, but proportional to the entire community, more climbers have social lives than lifters. When normies think of rock climbing, they think of shirtless dudes climbing rocks in yosemite, long hair, and just chilling in the outdoors with nature. When normies think of gym bros, they think of obnoxious college frat dudes pushing bro-science. It's in the word - bro-science. With every click-bait video on youtube being, "Why X is killing your Gainz" / "Why aren't you doing Y in your routine?" / "Science based lifting" it comes off as obnoxious as frick. Don't pretend that gym culture is any less cringey than climbing culture. I'd rather be thought of as a hippy smelling their own farts than a gymcel with social problems
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but why are you getting so defensive? Most people don’t think about rock climbing at all. If you tell them you do it sounds like a cool kind of dangerous hobby. Whatever you are is independent of the image rock climbing has. But the liberal pretentious image has been justified in my experience. Surprisingly less so in the guys who do it on actual rocks. maybe because doing something so dangerous makes you less likely to get caught up in moronic petty shit you have no control over, who knows. Also fit isn’t even slightly representative of gym culture. Maybe slightly for zoomers but zoomers aren’t even close to controlling gym culture. Kind of a weird perception tbh
3 months ago
Anonymous
You stated 4.5pl8. How far are we frauding numbers now? Shut up, sit down and feast on the greasy unwashed climber muff. No more words anon, only tangy fungi discharge.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>frauding numbers
Come back when you squat more than lmao3plates.
Reading this gave me autism. >Acts like 220kg for reps isn't something achievable in 2 years of lifting.
Try again anon. Wait actually... are those pounds? Is this a joke?
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Sure, but proportional to the entire community, more climbers have social lives than lifters. When normies think of rock climbing, they think of shirtless dudes climbing rocks in yosemite, long hair, and just chilling in the outdoors with nature. When normies think of gym bros, they think of obnoxious college frat dudes pushing bro-science. It's in the word - bro-science. With every click-bait video on youtube being, "Why X is killing your Gainz" / "Why aren't you doing Y in your routine?" / "Science based lifting" it comes off as obnoxious as frick. Don't pretend that gym culture is any less cringey than climbing culture. I'd rather be thought of as a hippy smelling their own farts than a gymcel with social problems
>why are you getting so defensive?
We have a bunch of people who aren't IST criticizing people who are.
because it attracts normalgay white people aka the most annoying morons available today
Why do you people give a shit. Especially homosexual OP for seething that people can do a sport they probably cant with their 300lb lardass. You losers are emblematic of the "gymcel" caricature. Let people enjoy what they like and find fun
>Oh but they're dyel liberals
They're literally happier than you will ever be. They have friends, a social life, and something that keeps them active. Who the frick cares if they're dyel or not, they're definitely more athletic than 99% of this board which doesn't even lift. If you were to filter this specific thread by who could lift 1/2/3/4, 90% of the posts would vanish. If you upped that to 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5, there would only be 3 posts, and yeah I'm one of those.
>It's an elitist sport
>It's made for manlets/bugs
Why do you give a shit? It's because you're pussies. The post about boulder routes being called "problems" is especially hilarious. Clearly shows that the poster can't climb harder than 5.8/V0. Let people enjoy their own shit.
Based, frick the morons shitting on other people enjoying hobbies.
dogs will always be happier than me
Climbing DOES have this stupid woke agenda tied to it, but that's not the sports fault, it's the fricking shit eating hippies in california who try and blend it into the sport. Most main gym chains BEGAN in cali, which is why you see this shit plastered everywhere. But also - who gives a frick? I climb with people who regularly make holocaust jokes and post on /LULZ/. I don't give enough of a shit about people minding their own damn business. Why should you? Just try and convince me why I should be seething, and b***hing about it.
i agree seething is bad and affects you negatively so you shouldn't do it, but leisurely shitting on people you don't like without getting emotionally invested feels good, so i do it
>I climb with people who post on /LULZ/
Maybe you should go back to your containment board then, you homosexual.
>because it attracts normalgay white people aka the most annoying morons available today
See:
This. Middle and Upper middle class childless morons.
They never work or their trust fund kiddies, and they always mooch off of everyone around them with 0 self awareness. Theres a reason why climbers have always been called dirtbags.
Lots of rock climbing where I live. A lot of these climbing areas are accessed by trails hikers use so I see these gays in the parking lot getting their gear ready.
They all have shitty cars with BLM and homosexual stickers on them and they all look like dirty wanna hippies.
Getting bigger and stronger is extremely toxically masculine and would imply you're a Trump voter, so it's the ONLY sport that beta low test numales can excel at while still signaling they voted for Biden thanks to the fact that being mediocre actually helps them excel, because the skinnier and lighter you are, the better.
>so it's the ONLY sport that beta low test numales
moron opinion, climbers have backs and arms that mog most gymcels. No legs or chest but that's not what chicks care about anyways, plus it's actually acceptable to talk to them and show off at a climbing gym
>everyone in the building can see you and people waiting for them to finish are watching so it draws in all the attention prostitutes
this too, you can stare at asses all day without judgement
>chicks don't care about chest
this forum man I stg
moronic opinion, climbers have amazing body control, its like calisthenics except you dont look gay and you develop an actually useful somewhat survival skill.
it's so fun bros
I'm very grateful that people like this have a containment zone of their own on a fricking rock wall. I used to work with these people -- one girl claimed the virtues of biking to work and completely remissed the fact that she was on ADHD/depression/various meds and probably a high dose prevents her from legally driving or being able to pass the test and tries to pass it off as a climate thing. (as I would later find out).
Another extolling the virtues of supporting homeless drug support / use centres. While this wienersocker lived in the suburbs and would never actually have to put up with one of these things in his community.
All software engineers who dress like peasants but probably out earn half the downtown getting high on their own supply.
Just a bunch of bullshit motherfrickers perpetuating even more bullshit into the world. I can't wait for AI to BTFO that industry and just general downsizing from DEI hiring.
please talk like a normal person
found the software engineer
I climb casually for fun and to make sure lifting isn't my only physical aptitude, but my wall has staff who are caricatures of insufferable liberals, and on the weekends a lot of the kids are genuine autists. Like, Naruto-running dorks who sprint up and will do the route you were about to attempt, because they can't pick up on social cues.
I believe it bro , im pretty sure even rock climbing god Honnold is autistic and high energy ADHD or something and another alpinist guy who died a while back would just vanish for months at a time. It genuinely is THE sport for autists.
AI just makes their job and life easier. A hiring manager or project lead can't really just type up a text prompt for the code they want and expect it to work and be put into production. You still need a software engineer who understands the stack, what the code is supposed to do, and how to string together the fragments that the AI spits out. It may advance to where it can do 90%-95% of their job, but you will still need a qualified professional to make use of the output and fill in the gaps.
that's all fine and good - whoevers left at that point will be the true sweatlords of the sweatlords and the geniuses of the geniuses - my point is all the ones in the middle who are probably just bloat and only add politics to the equation.
yeah and ai allows a manager to hire a single programmer instead of 10 to do the same volume work
considering how overcrowded the field already was ai is 100% going to kill it for 95% of people
The other 9 programmers in that scenario are work visa Jr. programmer Pajeets. Nothing of value is lost. The insufferable Sr. programmers will just get more competitive pay and a bigger ego.
don't be fooled, whites will all get disqualified due to diversity quotas and the field will be even more dominated by asians and israelites
nah this is turning around right now actually , they cutting all the DEIs - talent is the metric
Rock climbing isn't a sport because you can't make your opponent lose.
they lose when they die first on the cliff face
I competed this weekend
Climbs are graded and the person who climbs the hardest ones wins
Quantifying achievements in a competitive environment can cause you to push past your comfort zone and improve faster
Sportsball team dynamics are homoerotic Black person tier egoism and your reddit spaced blog post is 2 digit IQ dog shit
>Sportsball team dynamics are homoerotic Black person tier egoism
Agree
Its gay power plays
"reddit spacing" is the just the natural way to space out your posts when you are typing on the computer. You and anyone else who complains about it are newbies who weren't here when IST was actually a good board. It's bizarre that you (rightfully) get upset at reddit tourists and yet as a phone poster you have contributed to the downfall of this board just as much as the redditgays
>the absolute peak of midwitdom is a rock climber
In that case lifting isn't a sport either, as you have no direct influence over your oppositions lifts?
yes
lifting, climbing, and running are physical activities, but that doesn't make them sports. They're about as close to a sport as chess is, just from the other direction.
Yeah its not like you can run against someone, that would be crazy
Chess is a sport.
Correct. Those are just competitions. A sport needs an active offense and defense where one can directly influence the other.
Incorrect. Sport involves the seeking, pursuing, and killing of wild animals and birds. If you saddle up your pony & head off over the moor after a fox, you're engaging in sport.
You Yanks like to confuse this with games. Games are where you have some kind of competition set up with rules and points, like gridiron, or bouncyball.
t. middle class englishman
Bathed (sic).
Underrated post
It's you vs the mountain. The mountain loses if you're able to climb it.
>Rock climbing isn't a sport because you can't make your opponent lose.
What if you could?
Then it would be a sport.
>climbing casually once a month or every few months
Based
>climbing every week as your primary strength exercise while having other cardio
Okay maybe
>climbing multiple times a week
You are gay
hard to put into words ill try my best
a big part of playing sports and life is identity and categorizing things into "Us" and "Others". Bascially what is happening with these kinds of sports filled with insufferableness (climbing, distance running, cycling, crossfit, etc) is there is no meaningful "Us vs Them" team dynamic for casuals so it becomes an "there's us and then there's the public" dynamic instead which leads to that inflated sense of superiority and insufferableness.
if you casually play pick up basketball or soccer or flag football the us vs them is very clearly defined. You work with your team to beat the other team and then celebrate the victory or wallow in the loss together. The idea is the same with individual sports like tennis or boxing, but instead of working with other players you have coaches, trainers, training partners creating a sense of community driven by the same goal (help you beat the other guy)
with sports like climbing or cycling there is no "other" to band together against. Many times the sport is practiced privately by individuals, and the "community" isn't a team but rather a local club or collection of like-minded individuals (other climbers, other crossfitters). It creates a different sort of collective identity. There is no "Them" and the "Us" does not share a common goal (beat the other team) so the "Us" becomes the larger running/cycling/crossfit etc. community at large and the "Them" becomes everyone else who doesn't run/cycle/climb/do crossfit. And of course anyone who doesn't do the thing I like is stupid and missing out and I and everyone who does do it are smart and better than everyone else because of it
sorry for long post
Im 300 lbs jacked they cant do shit to me
Neither can your cardiologist.
I think you're right. Climbing rarely involves direct competition so climbers derive their sense of achievement at the expense of non-climbers (or casual climbers, or beginners). And because so many climbers are leftists in the first place, that fits EXACTLY into their existing playbook of espousing equality and inclusively, while also being the most toxic, gatekeeping c**ts you can imagine.
Im a fit incel
I like shooting the shit with gamer nerds online when i play online games but i prefer talking to gymcels or normie former jock types irl. Nerds irl are insufferable homosexuals for some reason
also frick surfers
Surfing looks like it would be the perfect exercise: sun, water, lots of swimming and athletic board riding.
Surfers hate other surfers
>t.surfer
surfers hate other surfers because of the dispute over who gets which wave
I've seen it live, people going apeshit on eachother because "you crossed me" or whatever
it's also only 2 types of guys: chill bro who never gets angry or the dude who is already malding at 6AM and he's not even past the lip break zone
Vinnie hacker justin bieber?
Seething about surfers is cope.
Thanks I hate you too.
Sooo basically it's exactly like lifting
This is mostly wrong. Rooning creates common goals. We advance faster when doing it together. There are competitive races and we objectively measure time and speed and many other metrics that you sir are unaware of.
Excellent post
Climbing is identical but most people's experience with it is casually visiting the rock gym on their own and giving up before they get good, in which case this dynamic doesn't exist at all. Find a group of people that are actually passionate about climbing hard and it's:
1. Not very liberal
2. Mostly people with team sports backgrounds anyways
3. Prosocial, you have weekend road trips with friends to look forward to where you push yourself to your limit and push your friends to try hard too
I've seen it summed up best
>People who climb outside
Cool
>People who only climb inside
Insufferable
no theyre both insufferable
No the people who do a lot of indoor and outdoor suck
My theory is that a lot of incels are just late bloomers who had some sort of childhood development issue that fricked with being IST at the right milestones
I remember being an asthma cuck and having one of the slowest mile times as a sophomore during the presidential fitness test because of trouble breathing and now today I just ran 5 miles at 6:30 pace
IST used to be the best board but I was cucked into IST and being groomed by homosexuals on IST like Scooby1961 back then
thats visual effects right - there's no way tiktok would allow it
i thought the same, unfortunately it's real. pretty scary as a climber...
This was the cliffs at gowanus in brooklyn lmao, they kept on setting these fricked up dynamic crux moves at the top of boulders for the first year it was open. Probably stopped when this incident happened lol
How the frick? Shouldn't just the bone broke inside the foot, why did the whole foot open up like that?
It was posted earlier in the thread. Disturbed me more than any number of more objectively horrifying gore videos because of the sudden shock of it.
everyone in the building can see you and people waiting for them to finish are watching so it draws in all the attention prostitutes
everyone woman into climbing is either a lesbian or has a boyfriend
Try ultimate (frisbee golf)
BRUUUUUUUHHHH I forgot this shit even existing - you wanna see some LGBT hippies senpai? They all chillin here.
I did. I have seen a few insufferable groups, but most strangers on the green are nice, courteous and even helpful. And you can bring your dog.
Man, I forgot about ultimate frisbee. Was huge in the 90s/2000s. What happened to it?
paintball in the early 2000s was the most toxic
Whats a good sport/activity that can be done indoor/outdoor, solo/group, and requires a high level of athleticism?
Weightlifting.
I guess you're right. Just me and my barbell.
Recreational Sex Having
running
swimming
Olympic weightlifting
Because people that do this tend to think that it is an "intellectual" sport. The name that they call a route that they are unable to complete is called a "problem." As in "i'm working on this problem right now." And when you have climbed it, it is said that you have "solved" that problem.
So they think that this is some difficult intellectual activity and that by participating in the sport they are not just getting fit, but they are doing something with their brains, too.
As you've figured by now, it's an elitism that is present even if it isn't acknowledged. It's why you see so many wealthy white people doing it.
same shit with F1 - engineers love that shit
Are they though?
OK boys let's take a vote for most annoying and insufferable
Crossfitters
Cyclists
Vegans
Britbongs
>Are they though?
Yes.
The majority seem to be hyper-liberal which makes them a combination of the following: vegan, feminists, LGBT and BLM supporters, upper middle class, and usually highly educated. Often they work in tech which gives them an air of superiority like most tech workers.
They are usually white and basically make up problems since they have none.
YAAAA HOO HOO HOO HOOUE-- ACK.
Why did he do that?
Climbers seem to be hippies in general.
>Why did he do that?
He assumed he was was attached to the belay line
Did he died?
>femoid looks on with indifference as he starts climbing without a rope
>looks on with indifference as he's laying face down on the floor
Love from Kazakhstan.
To be fair, I'd do the same if I saw it happen to a woman.
What did you expect her to do? I think you're just looking for ways to hate women.
What I would do. Start screaming hey you didn't hook in. How could you watch that in real life without doing that? Are you a woman?
holy moron
>femoid standing there
>observes guy lying face down
>instead of helping starts flicking her bean
i climbed often as a teenager. in that time, i was very open, and made many friends at the rock gym. we were lucky to have an extremely accommodating space, and it attracted skilled climbers. one of my friends decided to randomly go out alone and free solo a lead route in a remote climbing area. he fell and died. his name was eric metcalf, and i regret to say he died because of this mental illness--a cult like obsession with the outdoors being some spiritual awakening zone. climbing is an amazing exercise. there's nothing else to it. but due to its outdoor nature, it's at the intersection of kombucha brewers and other crunchy people. this is the problem with climbing that will never be resolved.
Shit homie you weren't kidding, RIP lil Eric
Eric Metcalf was climbing with three friends and died in an entirely preventable rappelling accident. Nothing to do with free soloing. He threaded his rappel device incorrectly.
https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13201212497/Rappel-Error-Rope-Improperly-Threaded-through-Rappel-Device-No-Knot-on-End-of-Rope
thanks anon. it was another life for me, a long time ago. im probably mixing things up with other stories of injuries. either way, rip.
Pewdiepie NOOOOO!!!!!!
>I'm belaying ^_^
>Gonna look away from my climber for a bit 🙂
>Hey that guy forgot to hook in
>Oh well lol
>Oh shit a crowd is forming I need to express concern and fit in
I will never let a hole belay me again.
I hope nobody actually believes this thread. Maybe it's true on the west coast, where I'm sure there are more climbers, but the average west coast person in general is already more likely to be the raging liberal that you all fear. I've been climbing on the east coast for five years, and all my gyms have seemed to have a pretty balanced clientele, in literally all ways. You can find every type of person at the rock gym, and the cool part is that even the people you hate the most will be relatively strong. Rock gyms are helping (a) make fitness cool again, and (b) forcibly reminding people that obesity is unhealthy and limiting. So don't spread this shit about climbing, unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot.
> (a) make fitness cool again,
Until memberships are planet fitness level pricing , it's always gonna be some bougie shit that never catches on unless you live in like a UTAH or Cali where outdoor spots are everywhere and even when it does , unless its a massive upswell , all it takes is one crew of narcissistic vegans to just spoil your favorite spots and hang up the shoes.
> forcibly reminding people that obesity is unhealthy and limiting
In what universe is a motor scooter fattie admiring rock climbers? Completely different set of issues you are coping to make a point with, you mean reminding young people not to get fat - bodybuilding already does all that on social media.
> So don't spread this shit about climbing, unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot.
Ah yes - climbing will save the world, just like your vegan meat and software that promises to change the game. you are a holier than thou c**t that can't handle slander to your favorite inconsequential hobby and masquerading it as a benefit to society - nothing more or less. The world was already going to fatten or not fatten long before climbing will ever matter to the masses.
You and many others in this thread need to go outside. There are a plenty of obese and overweight people in my gym, and many of them are young and still have a decent chance of losing the weight. People bring their friends climbing on guest passes, and even someone who is fat wants to try because they saw a video of it and it looked fun. Although it's not true, a regular gym is locked in many people's minds as a cruel, tiring place that requires willpower. The rock gym doesn't face as much prejudice in people's minds. Vegan meat is poison, and I hate tech culture, so I don't know who you're trying to lump me in with. My inconsequential hobby is growing fast, and it's not saving the world, but it's definitely helping counter everything that's destroying it. Grouchy butthole.
It’s sad to see how negative IST can be. Ir always had pockets of that but it has gotten worse in the last few years.
Keep being positive/real.
>unless you'd prefer the world to continue to fatten and rot
This is fine
Rock climbing, gyms, martial arts gym, boxing gym on west coast is probably overtaken by tech yuppie liberals
I started climbing in November of last year and whilst I do agree with a lot that is said (tons of trannies/lefitism everywhere, bizarre gym goers who had a weird passive-aggressiveness to them), I can't help that it's a lot of fun and a long road of progress which gives a sense of accomplishment just like lifting. the gym I go to is a 3 in 1 with a yoga studio, huge climbing section, and great lifting area with 8 squat racks and freeweights/various machines
Climbing gyms somehow manage to be better at buying and setting up gym equipment than commercial gyms.
should i drop bouldering for swimming? I already bike and run on top of weight lifting so the extra cardio might be redundant
Bouldering will hinder your other endeavors, whereas swimming will help them.
I've been bouldering for about 3 years. Sorta getting a bit tired of it is all. In what way is it hindering my other endeavors, beyond injuries?
From personal experience, the better I'd get at bouldering, the worse my cardio, strength, speed, general musculature and bodyfat, etc.
I'm guessing it's all the fatigue without any of the relevant stimulus. It's shit for strength and shit for cardio.
Ive made great progress in the gym (bench and dips went up, deadlifts feel strong) while losing weight.
I lift one day, climb the next with rest days when needed. I superset grip training with presses and finish with kettlebell swings for cardio.
You need to offset the pulling from bouldering. Also, I either take breaks between boulders or just traverse easy routes for endurance. I rarely boulder to failure.
>shit for strength
you should campus more
What for?
Unless you are becoming a triathlete - drop the running
Running is my first love lol I've been doing it for nearly a decade
then drop the biking , I only kept biking to save your joints
it's very fun but actually very bad for you
white people or middle class types that don't have real problems in life so they have to do things that are basically making them up
it's a trend. it got popular with people who follow trends. these people don't have well defined personality, and that's why they follow these trends. they're homosexuals with no real passions and that switch around hobbies to fill their empty personality.
realistically, if you were to get passionate about your hobbies, how many could you actually develop to the point where they have depth, and you're skillful and can do things that others can't?
not many.
these people go around switching hobbies and never developing based on videos they see on Instagram, where they get programmed to do so. why?
because it makes them better consumers. they go around many different hobbies and buy stuff for every single one of them, and then let it gather dust in the house.
so that's why. they follow trends because they actually lack real passions. this year they're climbing, last year they were playing padel, the year before getting tattoos and traveling. at some point they even got into videogames, and DND, and Netflix TV shows like Wednesday, and listen to imagine dragons.
then they left, and moved onto the next Instagrammable thing.
I have theories about this, bear with me.
Rock climbing is the kind of niche athletic activity that seems way more intense than it is. Sure, it requires significant grip strength and a generally decent level of fitness, but it doesn't require a shit ton of effort to get into, nor does it have a significantly high skill ceiling for the majority of climbers (outdoor climbing and competitive climbing notwithstanding). In other words, you can make it a ~lifestyle~ and seem all sorts of outdoorsy and worldly while actually just fricking around on a wall once a week.
Moreover, one big aspect of it - that others have already noted - is that it isn't competitive. There is no real pushback on being shitty, and everyone is supportive. Very little testosterone.
That said, I should clarify - it's still fun to do and something worth trying. Just can't become one of those guys. Ditto for stuff like SCUBA diving, skating, whatever.
>these people go around switching hobbies and never developing based on videos they see on Instagram, where they get programmed to do so. why?
This is a bit of a bad take. Sure, people are flighty and try stuff for a week while dropping it. That said, people should be encouraged to try new shit and see if they like it.
Case in point, I do a variety of sports, and I'd love it if people showed up to give shit a shot, even if they dropped out after a week. I'd rather have an influx of new people rather than a stagnating sport.
>Rock climbing ]seems way more intense than it is.
You've literally never touched a crag in your life. If you have, it was probably with some climber who took pity on you and brought you up a 5.3 outdoors. I know this because you say-
>nor does it have a significantly high skill ceiling
The number of people who climb above grade V10/5.13a outdoors is astonishingly small. 90% of climbers will never reach that level. And that's not even where it's capped. Climbing grades are exponential. The number of people who can climb V16 you can count on both your hands. It requires more than just
>Decent grip strength
I'm a weak ass climber compared to the pros and even I can hold my bodyweight on just a few of my fingers for more than 10 seconds on a 20mm edge.
>There is no real pushback on being shitty, and everyone is supportive
Tell me if this scene sounds familiar:
>Be you
>scrawny lean ass
>going for 3x10 on bench lmfao 1pl8
>IT's all you brother
>You sweat, you seethe, you fail the rep
>It's okay brother, look at your sick pump
That's literally all modern gym culture is, and nobody on this thread will ever bench more than 3 plates, or deadlift 5. Who gives a shit? You're just shitting on others while you're probably some lard ass who doesn't touch grass, let alone rock.
>touch ass
>touch wiener
Living up to climber stereotypes, I see
too many words, post bussy already
I have to admit that most guys that I see in the climbing place seem like the typical hipster/lowtest/numale hater of traditional masculinity skinny sticks but I dont really care about them anyways. My and my bros climb once a week and we are "toxic" males as in break balls constantly but I'm starting to see that few of the stickyboys are starting to gravitate towards us.
So i guess my point is that there's hope for them
I went to a climbing gym and they were cool. I'm guessing you went to a climbing subreddit. Don't assume that real people are like internet people.
Solution: don't live in big cities. My local climbing gym in a town of sub 30k pop has none of these people.
>The mountain loses if you're able to climb it.
My kid does it. Its fun for her. She can climb and jump down on the soft floor.
No idea why adults do it tho.
It doesn't stop being fun when you're an adult unless you're just too fat and/or weak to do it.
Here in Britain I've been to a bunch of gyms and seen all sorts
I know a guy who is genuinely trust fund set up for life and who doesn't work, just climbs
I've seen I think two gyms with hanging troony flags, and my home gym has what I think is an actual troony on staff (maybe just a bloke trying to look androgynous, he's a twat anyway)
But you also get lots of boomer climbers who are alright, and you see lots of shredded guys too
Few jacked guys, if you're jacked you have to be a good climber too or dyels will look down on you for not being skinny. I've seen a guy who climbs with a weighted vest on who looked pretty good, if you can get jacked and good at climbing you mogg and can't be touched
As far as general homosexualry I don't see much, I feel up my girlfriend on the bouldering mats to keep any wandering homosexuals away from us, like garlic for vampires
Ive own climbed once. Went with 5 people. Everyone was ultra right wing and landlords.
Im in a right wing city in Australia though.
It's just the popular thing right now. It also comes with its own culture of being a vegan/hippy/progressive/dyel/etc. So what happens is that all of the NPCs pile onto whatever the popular thing is and then they adopt the cultural norms of the new group that they identify with. Sucks for me because I've been climbing since I was a kid in the 90s and I've always hated the "climber culture" that started to evolve in the 2000s.
It really is a fun sport. It takes my mind off of things, and sometimes I can just chat with people, which helps as a remote worker. It's true that it can be cultish, and I wonder why that is. I don't like how much of hippies the people are, or how it attracts so many lesbians and just weird people in general.
I love complementing climbing with lifting and swimming. You get mad mires from women if you’re not a dyel bugman or techloser. Since climbing I can do 40 pull-ups. Powersharters can’t even walk uo a flight of stairs without having a heart attack kek
climbing gyms in cities attract the most numale beta soi homosexuals (male and female)
in my two gyms nearby only families, athletes and old people climb so it's really comfy and has none of the lgbtqhiv citygay shit
I don't climb because who cares, but objectively, climbing is probably the most human sport you can imagine. It utilizes our bodies natural inclinations (we evolved from climbing species), it's a trial of both body and mind, it requires specialized knowledge and certain character, and challenges you to overcome fear. Definitive white man sport.
>Definitive white man sport
literally, there are no brown or black """people""" there.
only caucasians and east asians
I see tons of brown people every time I go climbing.
it's recent. kai lightner is a good example. i used to climb with him when he was a kid. now i see him doing interviews talking about the struggle of being a Black person in a predominately white sport. makes me want to become the greatest climber so i can get a pass on being as overtly and openly racist as possible for the lulz
>climbing is probably the most human sport you can imagine
Strongly disagree, that would be fighting.
>he believes fighting is human nature
sorry brother, but humans had to work together before there were any conflicts worth fighting over.
It would be endurance running. You know the thing we evolved to do. Honorable mention to any sort of accuracy throwing, something we are by far the best at.
Its based as frick, like 80 % of people that climb are dyels and shit at it so you get to mog them 247 with your looks and skills once you are decent
Think about it, its like if people took turns in doing one rep maxes at the gym, 24/7. You just wait until someone has failed a climb, then go and do it yourself so they see how much better you are. They dont even register it as you showing off and them getting mogged, they think you are helping them by showing how its done
Its also just fun, climbing taps into your inner monkey and survival instinct
I'm a rock climber and I literally mog 99% of this board. Cope.
we are shitting on your hobby because you are a privileged frick who doesn't even know how many layups he's been given and still find a way to be smarmy and an butthole about it by larping as a climbing hippie. Fundamentally disingenuous.
I don't think anyone actually shitting on rock climbing actually went that hard on the sport itself - most people seemed to be dissing the people associated with it.
>we are shitting on your hobby because you are a privileged frick who doesn't even know how many layups he's been given
Is it his white privilege? 😉
kek , even being in a rock climbing thread turns one into a lesbian over time
Honestly he’s not the problem , it’s people like him that larp as enlightened beings purely for accepting trannies
This is highly unrelated to the thread but it drives me nuts: I'm fairly woke for IST standards myself but the way people in my circle accept trannoids comes off as extremely performative and two-faced. Like, bros, we can all see 99% of trannies look like clowns and 100% of them is mentally ill; pushing them further into their delusional world (and into debt) is just plain cruel.
To stay on topic true and honest lesbians love climbing for some reasons, male trannies calling themselves lesbians shy away from any sport, which makes the whole "womens bathroom" thing even more moronic.
I'm not a hippy. Frick liberals. But frick gymcels too. You're all different sides of the same seething pile of shit.
Based. But let's face it - most people on here are seething. They see fit, athletic individuals do shit they can't do, and rationalize it as a "low test" sport with a "low skill ceiling" which is invaded by "modernity". As if modern gym culture wasn't the same shit which feeds looksmaxxing inceldom nonstop.
>Honestly he’s not the problem , it’s people like him that larp as enlightened beings purely for accepting trannies
Trannies will never be women.
You’re the rare based rock climber - but exceptions do not prove the rule
>fit, athletic individuals
Anon, this thread is about climbers.
>muh privilege
Not my problem, go be with your swarthy kin if you're so inclined. The outdoors aren't for you. Stay inside.
Why do you keep spamming this thread day in and day out
>live in shitty commie block
>door frames are made of steel and have a ~10-20mm ledges
Don't even need a hangboard, brehs.
lead climbing/trad climbing is based because it kills morons.
does your sport kill morons?
This.
If gyms didn't downgrade real boulders, it'd be more filtered. In a gym, most people can do V2/V3 their first day. Sometimes even a V4. Outdoors, I'd be surprised if anyone could get a V1 their first day, and astonished if anyone could do a V2. You'd have to be truly gifted to send a V3 outdoors your first day.
Send it where?
It's what climbers say after completing the route, but before the bareback train begins.
It doesn't require much strength to start getting into it. it just requires being skinny. You do have to eventually get pretty jacked to be really good though. Weak homosexuals will gravitate to a sport that they can actually do.
If you don't like trad climbing, you're not white. Simple as.
Crampons? Check! Woolen knee socks? Check! Everest, here we come! Not to worry chum, I've packed a celebratory draft of ginger beer for the summit :*~~
Uhh hello, based department?
That bullshit about removing climbing shoes is moronic. Like, you think my regular shoes which have been on the subway, on dirt, mud, rain, snow, and have literally stepped in dog shit, are cleaner than the gym shoes that have only ever touched gym holds?
>but chalk
Is water soluble, and ridiculously easy to clean dry with a vacuum. Climbing shoes are NOT fricking dirtier than regular shoes. Once had a prick tell me to remove them while I was finishing up at the locker room and it pissed me the hell off. When I told him, "you know my friend right there is wearing regular shoes. We just got off public transit where a homeless schizo vomited. Tell him to remove his shoes".
You're genuinely stupid as frick, my guy.
Seethe.
You should remove your climbing shoes so you don't track bathroom floor poopoopeepee onto the mats and walls where people put their hands and faces, cutie. Not because they're particularly dirty.
Who the frick is stepping in piss and shit? Okay, urinals sure don't go near. But the entire locker room + shower at my gym as a "no climbing shoes policy". That's moronic.
somehow the addition of the wheelchair guy wearing a crown makes it ok
Somehow it got mixed up with liberal pretentiousness. It was not even that long ago when the van life type sports- surfing, rock climbing, etc- were apolitical and mostly just people who didn’t want to be a part of the grind. Now it’s like an msnbc talk show whenever you’re around a group of them. What’s weird is they’re some of the most white culture dominant sports there are
What does that have to do with the sport? There are plenty of liberal leaning people in weightlifting, does that somehow change lifting for you? Does the liberal pretentious rub off on you when you're doing deadlifts?
I guess we should all just shit on each other based on the associations of the people in our respective sports. We should also stop going outdoors, plenty of libuhruls go outside, guess that's off limits now too. You're too based for the rest of us, but please, stay in your lane. I'll be outside climbing rocks.
Look I don’t really care. If anything rock climbers being arrogant about climbing while being absolute skellies for the most part annoys me far more than the politics. But like it or not the culture affects the sport and the environment in which that sport is practiced. Ie bodybuilding tends to be pretty conservative. Not necessarily in a republican sort of way but in a no nonsense masculine anti moronic postmodern take no responsibility or accountability bullshit kind of way. Basketball is dominated by black culture so lots of pickup games are filled with people acting like moronic Black folk. Therefore the vibe in most climbing gyms is that it’s full of liberal overconfident dickheads. It just is what it is.
not that anon but in what frickin way is a men's beauty pageant republican and masucline lmao. u're both gay lol but it's undeniable that bodybuilding is homosexual as frick and the opposite of masculine
Have you been on fit? Looksmaxxing/Bodybuilding culture is literally a culture of homosexual dyels or overweight lardfricks telling you how your program isn't optimal and then whining about never getting laid. Picrel.
>No anon, you gotta feel the burn
>Don't do GOMAD
>Starting Strength is a meme
>Powershitters
Going to the gym, getting your heavy squats in, and walking the frick out is based, masculine, high test, but nobody fricking does it. Tell me anon, what's the heaviest you've squatted? I'm a rock climber, and by virtue of you posting on fit, I probably squat more than you for reps.
>IST gets triggered when you use 400lbs as a bar for squatting a decent weight
Seethe. For as liberal and moronic as a few of the obnoxious ones are, at least rock climbers aren't antisocial incels. Their culture is associated with being snobby, sure, but better that than fricking disgusting, the loser archetype which screams "I have no social skills and need to looksmax to have meaning". We're all brothers in autism here man, but ffs climbing isn't any worse than any modern college gym.
Picrel didn't post.
>wew I had a whiff of some greasy pussy now everything I don't like is incel look at me pussy holders I'm with the program let me have a sniff
Pic related: girl out lifting you, but not me.
See where I am going with this? No sniffies for you, anon.
Reading this gave me autism.
>Acts like 220kg for reps isn't something achievable in 2 years of lifting.
Try again anon. Wait actually... are those pounds? Is this a joke?
Sure, but proportional to the entire community, more climbers have social lives than lifters. When normies think of rock climbing, they think of shirtless dudes climbing rocks in yosemite, long hair, and just chilling in the outdoors with nature. When normies think of gym bros, they think of obnoxious college frat dudes pushing bro-science. It's in the word - bro-science. With every click-bait video on youtube being, "Why X is killing your Gainz" / "Why aren't you doing Y in your routine?" / "Science based lifting" it comes off as obnoxious as frick. Don't pretend that gym culture is any less cringey than climbing culture. I'd rather be thought of as a hippy smelling their own farts than a gymcel with social problems
Not him but why are you getting so defensive? Most people don’t think about rock climbing at all. If you tell them you do it sounds like a cool kind of dangerous hobby. Whatever you are is independent of the image rock climbing has. But the liberal pretentious image has been justified in my experience. Surprisingly less so in the guys who do it on actual rocks. maybe because doing something so dangerous makes you less likely to get caught up in moronic petty shit you have no control over, who knows. Also fit isn’t even slightly representative of gym culture. Maybe slightly for zoomers but zoomers aren’t even close to controlling gym culture. Kind of a weird perception tbh
You stated 4.5pl8. How far are we frauding numbers now? Shut up, sit down and feast on the greasy unwashed climber muff. No more words anon, only tangy fungi discharge.
>frauding numbers
Come back when you squat more than lmao3plates.
>why are you getting so defensive?
We have a bunch of people who aren't IST criticizing people who are.
Fit isnt representative of the gym community
Most gym bros have social lives
>There are plenty of liberal leaning people in weightlifting
weightlifting and gym bros overlapping into powerlifting are two very different crowds
I know!
What about this sport makes IST seethe so much that you have to make a thread about how you hate the people doing it so much every week?
anyone have that webm where a guy fall from a small height, 2m most, but his foot almost completely severs from the leg because of bad landing?