What is the best 4x a week split?

I'm a reformed powershitter who has switched to bb style training. What are some good 4x week programs? I can't do 5-6 day splits because I'm trying to leave the gymcel lifestyle

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    One workout a week

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I actually was doing Mentzer style two workouts a week, one set per exercise from July until now. Saw some gains but could've just been from actually working my muscles instead of focusing on PL movements.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Upper
    Arms
    Upper
    Lower
    But it seems like you've hit the natty limit

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      So on Upper days you'd hit both pushing and pulling muscles? Or one day is push and one pull?

      >natty limit
      I think I basically hit my natty strength limit with 450/305/540 sbd at 165. I feel like maybe I can't put on much more size as a natty but I can probably get more aesthetic at least

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bro you're already this big natty and you're still coming to IST for advice
        Just go ask some of the biggest natty dudes in the gym

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for calling me big anon

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Upper/Lower. U can do days all back to back if you want, though I'd add different emphasis on each day to give a bit more rest. Kind of like a 5/3/1 style Upper lower split. Upper bench, lower DL, upper OHP, lower squat with appropriate assistance shit.

    Or standard u/l with more rest. ULxULxx. Can just do the same shit each time, or add different emphasis each day, whatever. U/L is my go to because I work nights, 3x12hr shifts per week, so I just lift on my 4 days off which are all kind of random and it works.

    Also push,pull,legs,x,full body,x,x

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds pretty good but only drawback is I don’t want to dedicate that much time to lower. I feel like my lower is developed enough from all the PL

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >oooo shit do those traps go all the way up yboi?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Benefit of 8 years of conventional deadlift. Drawback is a thick ass mid section

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Push Pull rest
    Push Pull rest rest

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's laughable that you look like this but come to /fit for advice. Dude you're more well built than 99% of this site, you shouldn't need to ask us

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      well idk. judging by the cbt thread there are some big guys here.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        YOU are also a big guy here

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah and every time i give someone advice some homosexual calls me a no nothing dyel or something

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look into DC training. It's 3x a week probably an hour to hour and a half a session.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this sounds interesting. thanks for the rec. I have been doing something similar with a modified mentzer approach, but basically drop setting instead of rest pause. i feel like assisted reps would be ideal but i dont have a training partner

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just do conjugate. Stick to your roots. Upper heavy, lower heavy, upper speed, lower speed.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      honestly frick PL and heavy compounds for the most part. it's fun to deadlift sometimes but mostly i just wanna catch a sick pump and not be constantly sore in my erectors.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Full Body: Squat that trains the upper back or Row (with hips hinged and the bar barely above the floor) depending on how satisfied you are with legs or do them bi-weekly, Leg Isolation on whichever side you didn't hit,1 Push, 1 Pull, Neck Isolation, Ab Isolation, Forearm Isolation, Shoulder Isolation
    End the day with some stretching at home

    Pause

    Upper: 2 Push, 2 Pull but if rowing it should be seated, 4 isolations for arms and shoulders

    Lower: 1 Quad Teardrop focused Movement, 1 Posterior Chain Back focused Movement,
    Leg Curl, Ab Isolation, Calf Raise+Tibialis Raise, Neck Isolation
    End the day with cardio and stretching

    Pause

    Upper: 2 Push, 2 Pull, 4 Isolations for arms and shoulders
    Can be a calisthenics day bi-weekly, Cardio gains over better arm isolations

    Pause

    Superset and arrange everything as you like.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      any advice for good calisthenics workouts?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Run to a park with equipment.

        Pull Ups + Dips 4 sets
        The you do some Rows and push ups on the dip bars 3 sets
        If the rows with your feet on the dip bar feel awkward do scapular retractions on the pull up bar and try to do front levers
        Of course it would be better if there were rings, then you could do the rows on the rings or do face pulls.

        Next ab isolation where you bring your knees to your elbows on the dip bar, but you stil have to do keep an isometric contraction with your arms in the middle of the chin up position. If you have a ladder then do decline behind the neck presses and if you have the rings then just do face pulls again for 3 sets.

        Then run back home and you can do some stretching at home or in the park.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    oof

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Mon: Upper
    (BB Bench, Rows, Pull ups, Curls)
    >Wed: Upper & Lower Back
    (BB Rows, RDL, Pulldown)
    >Fri: Arms, Shoulders, Upper
    (BB Curls, Press, Upright Row, Dips, Forearms)
    >Sat: Lower
    (BB Squats, leftover accessories)

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Upper lower is 4 days a week if you rest in-between each workout.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    why not 4 day body part split?
    chest
    back
    legs
    shoulders+arms

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was basically considering this but making day 4 more full body with arms and deadlift. Maybe I'll try doggcrapp since it sounds interesting.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    you have literally better body than 99,99999999% of fit and 99,999999999999999999% of population. Why are you asking this question? unironically i want to get behind the psychological aspect of this

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because I've always done powerlifting or powerbuilding programs and I wanted people's opinions on 4 day bodybuilding splits since I don't know anything about it.

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