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eggs and meat
Killing yourself for being a ketolard
>inb4 the schizo calls you moxyte
Moxyte is the anti-keto poster. He posts stuff like the image you just posted.
Hmm...
Yeah, I went to reddit /r/ketoduped and got it just for you, you absolute lolcow homosexual
Hi moxyte. Knew it was you.
I am not your redditor boyfriend, homosexual. Great job, you turned away another carnivore. Redditor homosexual. Check the page count.
>I am not your redditor boyfriend, homosexual
You always say this exact same thing, moxyte.
roidtroony baker, no one here will buy your bullshit programs
hey I took that screenshot
what an honor
What "experts" ever pushed for high carb diet? Are they in the room with us right now? Bread and sugar are two most demonized food items of the past 50 years because hurr its just curbs.
either you're a moron or a liar. Or both. Your choice
The American Diabetes Association for example.
Went to their website and their promote minimizing refined carbs and maxxing on veggies
>Eat the most of these: whole, unprocessed, non-starchy vegetables.
>Eat some of these: whole, minimally processed carbohydrate foods. These are your starchy carbohydrates, and include fruits like apples, blueberries, strawberries and cantaloup
>Try to eat less of these: refined, highly processed carbohydrate foods and those with added sugar. These include sugary drinks like soda, sweet tea and juice, refined grains like white bread, white rice and sugary cereal, and sweets and snack foods like cake, cookies, candy and chips.
You're a moronic dishonest homosexual
the USDA DGA which are much more influential recommends half of grains be refined
Plant-based foods are nutritionally deficient. They recommend refined grains because they are fortified.
Recommending any type of carbs to a type 2 diabetic is malpractice.
>telling type 2 diabetics to eat carbs
Why?
how else are we going to keep ourselves and big pharma funders in business?
Because carbs, especially sugar actually cure diabetes.
That guy looks like a fat pig still.
trust the science chud
I’m mostly on your side but there was definitely a push for high carb low fat that only ended relatively recently. Almost certainly based in profiteering on value added products created from cheap subsidized carbs like corn
>ended relatively recently
It ended?
Maybe not for the lower classes but for upper middle carbs have definitely been demonized a bit.
Mainstream advice is still low-fat, low-protein, high-carb, plant-based, no cholesterol, no saturated fat, etc.
If anything normies are getting worse advice than ever. Canada removed dairy from their food guide and changed the meat category to 'protein foods' to encourage subsistence on nuts and soya. Also opens the possibility to add bugs as a 'protein food'.
don't forget the low sodium bit. They also don't say low fat anymore because it causes hypertriglyceridemia and may raise CVD risk per DGA 2015
Yeah the low-sodium thing, kek. I had a laugh at this:
They can't admit that high blood pressure is caused by hyperinsulinemia because that would undercut the phama companies selling insulin injections. And if they gave people an effective way to cure high blood pressure (i.e. quit carbs) it would also harm sales of blood pressure medication.
My dad got off blood pressure medication doing keto.
>low-fat, low-protein, high-carb
this is the final redpill, just add more gelatin and we're good to go
>plant based, no cholesterol, no SFA
this is just misleading, a classic case of mixing falsehoods and truths
High protein, high carb, low to mediumish fat is the real red pill
Damn Canada sounds like a fricking nightmare
Mainstream advice is keto. "Official" advice is 5 portions of vegetables/fruit a day with as little carbs and as much protein as possible.
>Mainstream advice is keto
A sudden spike in popularity isn't equal to mainstream silly anon.
Literally all fad diets of the last 20 years were some kind of keto. There's even vegan keto.
No wonder. Mainstream advice (cico) causes obesity. Keto cures obesity.
>Keto cures obesity.
at least she kept the boobs
Another reason keto is best.
A high carb diet is still ideal for athletes. It's not great for fatties trying to lose excess weight. If you are trying to get shredded your best bet is to eat a higher carb diet.
moron
People were skinny in the 70s and 80s when high carb low fat was pushed.
Since the late 90s, all fad diets were some kind of keto, and since then, everyone is fat.
>People were skinny in the 70s and 80s when high carb low fat was pushed.
low fat foods were pushed late 70s to early 80s by the moron called McGovern heading "The United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs". It is after that that food manufacturers started replacing fat with sugar and low carb was pushed. this is where the obesity epidemic and the rise of CVD began. Keto has only become popular again in the early 90s only in the context of treating epilepsy which is does very well without any meds. mainstream keto picked up mid to late 2000s. now go be moronic somewhere else you low test homosexual.
Keto is a continuation of Atkins, which is just Banting. Low-carb was the traditional cure for obesity.
>Keto is a continuation of Atkins, which is just Banting. Low-carb was the traditional cure for obesity.
thats great and at no point was Keto/Atkins/Banting mainstream in the 90s/80s. Low fat/high carb dominated and was the general advice given to the population and is exactly what everyone would regurgitate. trying to conjure some moronic reality where keto was mainstream and the reason for the obesity epidemic in the US is pretty pointless. again frick off and do your research.
I think we are talking past each other here.
Absent government intervetion people tend to do what works. Removing sugar and starches from the diet works for curing obesity. Heavy-handed propaganda has convinced people to do the opposite of what works. This propaganda came from the US government and large pharmaceutical and agricultural businesses.
Those of us who aren't easily swayed by authority still stick with what works.
>muh starch
every major civilization in the history of the world has been fueled by starch. bread, rice, potatoes, corn... but a few decades ago, carbs suddenly started making everyone fat! give me a fricking break.
The fattening effect of grains has been known since humans started eating grains.
Why do you think we feed grain to cattle? It's not to make them lean and healthy.
wow, grains have more calories than grass? mind-blowing stuff. but somehow, people managed to eat high-carb diets and stay lean and healthy in the past, but today, carbs are the sole cause of the obesity epidemic.
yeah yeah, everyone been terribly unhealthy since the dawn of civilization.
didnt read but
aren't IST people's muscles like the pic on the right?
they are all human wagyu's lmao
You mean fat people, right?
no, the body builders on carbs
You have no concept of the reality of nutrition. We feed grain to cattle because they have normally eat fibrous grasses and ferment that into short chain acids, so by gibing them low fiber starch instead of their natural low starch high fiber diet, it fattens them. Grains literally build modern society
>every major civilization in the history of the world has been fueled by starch. bread, rice, potatoes, corn... but a few decades ago, carbs suddenly started making everyone fat!
every transition from hunter gatherer was marked with deteriorating health of the population. growing plants may have given oversupply of "food" but was payed for with modern day diseases? are you too moronic to understand that? there plenty of research showing exactly that.
>give me a fricking break
no, stupidity has to be called out
>Absent government intervetion people tend to do what works
Hahahaha
Doesn't dairy have carbs?
Yeah that's why adults should be only consuming fermented/low-carb dairy like kefir, cheese, butter, etc.
Why do babies have the ability to digest and process carbs from the breast milk they drink but adult humans shouldn't have carbs because it's bad for human beings to consume carbs? Why would Mother Nature make it like this?
muh nature
grow up moron
???????????????
Your whole argument on why keto/carnivore works is because it's 'muh natural' diet for human beings but humans were designed to eat and process carbs perfectly fine.
ok schizo
they need to get fat and they grow faster
also milk have an addictive property to make the infant wants it
babies can get into ketosis 2 hours after the meal so no glycation for the little fellas
human breast milk is at least half fat though. And everybody on earth goes into ketosis when they are sleeping.
Because babies require lots of calories
>ignores increase in obesity and other health complications
post body NOW ketolard
Chicken nuggies and chips
Carbs
Don't carbs just cause obesity?
Proofs?
Eating fast food and sweets like a pig and gulping it down with soda causes obesity, not some ratio of chemicals
Now show the graph for the declining sugar consumption.
If you think pic related shows that sugar isn't fattening I have a couple questions:
Do you think surgical masks stop viruses?
Do you think mRNA injections are safe?
What? I’m not him but I don’t see the parallels. I don’t think the argument is that it’s not fattening, it’s that it’s not the only culprit behind the obesity crisis because obesity rates have increased even as sugar consumption has declined
Kek what a moron, sugar consumption declined ever since the turn of the century yet it's still blamed for obesity.
>Do you think surgical masks stop viruses?
>Do you think mRNA injections are safe?
Fricking lmao what do these things have to do with sugar?
>I went from smoking 20 cigarettes to 18 but still got lung cancer
>lung cancer is not caused by cigarettes
any other brilliant takes?
>>lung cancer is not caused by cigarettes
Correct, it's caused by dietary fats, like every cancer. cope and seethe
thanks for the kek moron
translation : i don't have any refutations other than grifter pseudoscience
nothing you said needs refutation. Its so stupid its not worth that
damn you got dunked on, son.
So obesity is also not in any way related to mortality?
>sugar consumption declined ever since the turn of the century yet it's still blamed for obesity
I bet this obviously moronic claim comes from some stoooodie done
Please have a nice day
>It must not be so it cannot be!
>sugar consumption decline
Nta but the only graph for sugar consumption I know of is the one for sweden
>Nta but the only graph for sugar consumption I know of is the one for sweden
Oy vey, the goyim know! SHUT IT DOWN!
I think people focus too much on the low fat recommendations themselves. I think it’s a safer bet that whoever got those recommendations published merely used them as part of a larger push to make tons of money on selling dirt cheap to make carb based goyslop to the public rather than the recommendations in and of themselves being responsible for the explosion in obesity rates. And along those lines why focusing solely on the fact that eating more carbs correlated with the rise rather than what type of carbs. If people were eating tons of boiled beans and even wheat berries I doubt there would have been a similar increase in fat people
Ask Michael Phelps how much carbs he eats.
Eggs, meat, bread, bananas, pure chocolate, milk, whey, potstoes, veggies, salad, more meat, a handfull of nuts, herring or sardines or any other sealife creature once every two weeks
What's the rationale behind including these foods?
>Eggs, meat
Best source of protein
>bread, bananas
Bread is easy source of carbs, and you definitely need to eat easy when on a bulk. I'll make eggs with bread or even burgers with bread. It's also affordable. Bananas are a great pre-workout snack to get energy, and also post-workout to get glycogen into your muscle. Although i only use it as a pre.
>milk, whey
The most convenient way to get your protein. Might not have enough protein for the day? Put 500ml of milk with two scoops an hour before bed.
>Pure chocolate
70% is best for this. Take only a small piece, peferably pre-packaged and take one daily to curb gravings. Flavanoids it contains are supposedly very healthy as well
>potatoes
The white mans rice
>veggies, salads
Think you know why. But never eat a salad without meat. The reason a salad doesn't fill is because you're supposed to eat it with meat and optionally potatoes.
> a handfull of nuts
Easy kcals, also contains many minerals and vitamins, eating excessive amounts of this is bad though.
>herring or sardines or any other sealife creature once every two weeks
You need the omega-3. Herring and sardines are small fatty fish, thus because they are small they contain less toxic metals.
Why eat carbs at all? And if you're eating carbs why not milk? Animal foods are more nutritious and have less toxins.
Your stomach needs whole foods to digest imo. Less toxins depends on where you get your milk from.
Milk turns into cheese in the stomach. It's basically a solid food.
>toxins
Who let Anon's mom on IST?
No one can answer this. Just get carbs from milk, meat, eggs, and cheese. Frick the rest. Eating Bread? It's just oils. They dont even make it right anymore. Potatoes? What is this? A famine? If you're already eating other foods, this is a completely useless food that will spike your ghrelin.
Based.
Grains are for cattle. Apex predators eat meat.
>eating nothing but meat and animal products will make you much stronger and healthier
yes, but only in the short term. you'll be a bright candle that burns out quickly. you will die from cardiac arrest by 45, leaving your children fatherless and your beautiful young tradwife free to bang tyrone. your precious legacy will be gone and no amount of dropshipping income will change it.
>cardiac arrest by 45
>based on that study where they feed rabbits animal fats
golly gee, who knew meat is bad for obligate herbavores?
You know what pisses me off?
People who use Christianity as a way to pacify themselves for all the shitty things they do.
prostitutes and deuchebags always wear a cross, while they behave as horrible as anyone.
It's sickening to see all these people who think they're in any way in the right way morally.
Because they are the most efficient source of energy. You need energy to exercise.
Human bodies store fat for energy.
Cool. I said most efficient. Fat is a source of energy, but it sucks for performing at a high level.
Show me a professional endurance or strength athlete that does that bullshit
Your premise is false but I'll humour you and pretend it's true.
Are you a professional athlete? What percentage of the US population are professional athletes? What percentage of the US population is overweight or obese?
What blanket dietary recommendation would you give to the US population to improve their fitness? Why?
>What blanket dietary recommendation would you give to the US population to improve their fitness?
High volume low intensity bro splits and low fat high carb
>Why?
Because we already tried it and it works
>it works
just stop posting holy frick
some people here actually engage in high intensity exercise lol
if you're sedentary then you can avoid carbs
Zero carb diets are optimal for intense exercise.
This but without the bread. Unless bread products in your c**t are made with 00 or 0 wheat.
>any other sealife creature
>omega-3's
have to recommend canned cod liver for this. Massive amount of vitamins and omega-3. It's like a cheaper pate that doesn't go bad in storage. I like to have it with crackers, spread it on sandwitches, or put it into tuna for more flavor.
Semen
Good t boost too
>Those shoulders in his late 50s
Does he still claim natty?
Shawn Baker is lifetime natty.
stan is a beast
Yeah you'd have to be Natty to lose your medical license
Just cardio at that point
>a 1.3x bw DL is somehow "impressive" if you're a israelite homosexual
>>a 1.3x bw DL is somehow "impressive" if you're a israelite gaygo
this is your brain on vegetarianism. its 1.7 and in absolute terms its impressive no matter the body weight. given the fact that he is in his mid 50s makes it even better.
man I don't care.
Hope that israelite homosexual gets cancer
>Hope that israelite homosexual gets cancer
Baker is a goy. the israelite here is you, Shlomo.
don't care, the thought of him getting cancer gets me rock hard
>don't care, the thought of him getting cancer gets me rock hard
wont be getting cancer anytime soon. fast/carnivore is well known to shrink tumors too. See Thomas Seyfried and co. Treating cancer with low carb. high carb and high insulin causes impotence however so enjoy it while it lasts.
let's see the inside of his arteries
he's obviously on trt. Probably considers that to be natural
Shawn Baker is not on TRT.
Yeah alright, bigger delts than most people who admit to roiding, but I'm sure that 50 year man is natty.
You are right, he's on bananas and cake
Debunked. Not everybody on his house is on carnivore
He literally said he eats cake
He said he sometimes has a piece of cake on his son's birthday
Also he is married with kids living in his house and they aren't strict carnivore.
These are the lengths Black folk on this website will go to in order to discredit this beast of a man.
Let's see your world records now.
>These are the lengths Black folk on this website will go to in order to discredit this beast of a man.
Then why did he delete the post?
Hmm.
You don't need to go to any length to say he lost his medical license
>he lost his medical license
No he didnt.
Yeah, he did.
Nope.
>literal proof from the medical board
>this deep in denial
Yes he did
http://docfinder.docboard.org/nm_orders/Baker,%20Shawn%20Mark.pdf
>Then why did he delete the post?
Why the frick would I know? Do you know he actually deleted it? Or are you just taking this Black person's word who made this image? Either way does it matter? You are nitpicking him to shit and for what? What do you hope to prove?
Yeah he lost his license and it had nothing to do with whether or not he takes steroids or eats only meat or fricks his wife only on Sunday. Your point?
>no you can't just use common sense!
Whatever you say man.
When I use common sense and my memory to explain the bananas and cake its wrong though?
Let's go back to the origin of this posting string. You or some other Black person was talking about him eating bananas and cake, but I used my memory of him saying offhand once that he sometimes has cake on his son's bday (cause he isn't a total schizo) and the bananas could easily be for anyone else in his home; there it can easily be logically explained.
Meanwhile what common sense are you implying that you are using to come to some conclusion? Also what is that conclusion? You didn't answer my question, I still have no idea what you're even getting at.
it was because he wasn't a good goy
Stay mad
Didn't read your post. Sorry you feel the need to write an essay to defend a person who lost his medical license and makes his whole life about eating meat that he also has a vested interest to promote, because he partners with farms to sell beef to you
>Yeah he lost his license and it had nothing to do with whether or not he takes steroids or eats only meat
Correct, its because he violated the ethics code and lied about treatment, which means he isn't trustable in any other aspect
Voluntarily suspending your license to avoid legal battles is not the same as losing it. He renewed his license just to spite liars like you.
These same medical boards punish doctors for speaking out against the COVID pseudovaccines or recommending ivermectin.
There's literal proof in this thread that his license was revoked. But keep coping I guess.
>These same medical boards punish doctors for speaking out against the COVID pseudovaccines or recommending ivermectin.
Terrible pivot.
Your document even says he voluntarily gave it up, keep coping.
Yes, because they ordered him to.
>Voluntarily
"The New Mexico Medical Board ORDERED the "voluntary and permanent surrender" of Baker's medical license in 2017"
Literally read the document.
>ORDERED
>voluntary and permanent
Well he's currently a licensed orthopedic surgeon so I guess that didn't work out.
Stay mad vegetable fricker.
Talk to me about all the times your orthopedic surgeon treated you with diet lol
Look at your body and ask yourself the same question. Lol
Your post makes literally no sense so I accept your concession
>the power of the atrophied vegan brain
>i cant read that means u lose
You're gonna have to try harder.
>ad hom
Sad
Fish, meat, eggs, butter.
You know a lot of people say Idiocracy went too far in its depiction, some of the things these days show they didn't go far enough. They should have kept away from bashing of certain stereotypes as well as been sensitive to academically mentally challenged people and it would have been a perfect movie.
>You know a lot of people say Idiocracy went too far in its depiction
nobody says this, you just made some shit up for your pseudo-intellectual rambling
This is 100% false, it was considered very controversial for a while and part of why it didn't get a full release, so you should have a nice day.
1984 is the only one that has really come close.
it was not "very controversial" ,it just wasn't that popular. i saw it when it came out, as I was already a mike judge fan
Try Brave New World by Huxley. Too fricking real
I’m a bit suprised BNW comes up so much less than 1984. Maybe it’s not read at schools? I remember 1984 being one of the books we had to read in high school.
But yea, we’re a bit closer to Huxley’s dopamine & meds to keep the cattle in check than people want to believe. At least in the west maybe
Dystopian fiction never really captures how utterly demented leftists are.
Leftists not only do everything they are told (e.g. experimental injections, eating plant-based slop), they also violently oppose anyone who disagrees.
In reality the guy in Idiocracy would have been arrested and executed. Leftists hate truth more than anything else.
Is america te cuckedest country in the world?
This c**t has to be blasting roids with those delts.
That's just what men look like when they eat healthy food.
But I don't want to eat raw testicles with Black folk I want my Latin American waifu to make me tortas. Sure tell Black folk they would be happier far away from the rest of us.
Then why don't you look like Baker? It's amazing how you fall so such pathetic scams.
>All the top athletes and coaches in the world have it wrong! I discovered the one weird trick that can give you steroid like body without the steroids!
>Then why don't you look like Baker?
Because I'm sedentary.
Then why are you on a fitness board? Go frick off to IST or /misc/ or something.
Diet is >80% of fitness.
Is that supposed to prove anything? You look like your standard scrawny 14 year old boy who eats slop and skateboards. And I've seen that picture posted for the past two years. You obviously look much worse now(somehow) because you refuse to show anything recent.
Sedentary results better than working out results.
The differentiator is diet.
frick, a typo!
You showed me, bro. I can't come back from that.
yeah, i was kinda making fun of your "i portrayed myself as the chad, and my opponent as basedjack" type memes, but of course your carb-starved brain failed to pick up on the irony.
>I can't come back from that.
Awesome! Now frick off!
based smiling 85 IQ pig-hunting spouse-appreciating Black personman
>That dude is living a happier and smarter life than most of you
We know. Europeans had to invent all the shit so we could live in relative comfort.
People from all these places where you don't even need a house and food grows on it's own do live a happy life. Yet they still go to war for some strange reason.
War is more natural to us than peace anon.
Bananas. Even you sickly (it's all in your head btw) carnicuck /misc/tarded freaks who can't tolerate most food feel good eating bananas
>bananas
Enjoy your hyperkalemia. moron.
Can you show me any evidence that consuming a reasonable amount of bananas causes hyperkalemia? You fear mongering moron?
He's a fear mongering israelite who has an allergic reaction to everything like Kyle's cousin (or it's his israeli schizophrenia it's all in his head)
I am not Kyle's cousin so idk what that is.
https://gizmodo.com/idiocracy-is-a-cruel-movie-and-you-should-be-ashamed-fo-1553344189
>2014 article
>2006 movie
yeah it became a cult classic later. people are always gonna kvetch about accurate depictions of undesirable traits
you zoomers always look back on times you didn't even experience with the strangest sense of authority. it's the oddest thing to witness.
You're a moron.
I'm close to 40, I remember when it came out and it was considered a bit strange and controversial and over the top.
Now I made a simple point that Idiocracy was considered going a bit far, people thought it was a bit too outrageous, right? That's what I said. Like people at the time thought that was outlandish. You understand that? Then I added, when you look at this, it didn't even go far enough.
So what the frick is your problem bro? What's your problem? Why are you nitpicking what I said, which was completely justified and normal? Fricking c**t.
>So what the frick is your problem bro? What's your problem?
I think you should stop posting because you're clearly a moron who likes to swing above his weight intellectually.
>watch idiocracy
>considers it that it went too far and it's more fantasy than comedy
>observe current year
>notice the movie is more accurate than I would like
Nta, but what is so outrageous about this claim
the movie is more accurate than I would like
Stop using imageboards then.
Paying headlines of articles without the substantive bit it's referencing should be bannable. Wait, it is. Your post is extremely low quality.
what is he trying to prove here? that by not eating sugar his past 3 months of glycated hemoglobin are that of a healthy, non-diabetic person?
>no shit moron
Recently the mainstream media claimed red meat causes diabetes. Shawn Baker's post is addressing that.
Trenbologna sandwiches
>Consumes only red meat
>Somehow still has a borderline high A1C
Meanwhile, I eat carbs and have an A1C of 4.1
No carbs for me. Only meats and beer.
I prefer poultry
Chicken makes people transgender.
>"Early in his Michigan tenure, Harbaugh pulled Speight aside and told him not to eat chicken, a protein that is considered fairly safe by nutritionists," Hayes wrote. "When Speight asked why, Harbaugh said, 'because it's a nervous bird.'"
>"He thinks some type of sickness injected its way into the human population when people began eating white meats instead of beef and pork," Speight, now at UCLA, told Bleacher Report. "And he believes it, 100 percent."
https://www.si.com/college/2018/07/30/jim-harbaugh-eating-chicken-michigan-football-players-nervous-bird
Kek. What? Are chickens nervous? I took care of some chicks once and I guess they were scared at first but those dickheads were trying to peck me when I was refilling their water after a few times. More nervous than a pig or a cow I guess
That only happens to Americans
Something is not adding up here. He’s lying about his diet isn’t he? You don’t have good blood work on steroids in your 50s eating 112 servings of red meat in a week
>he’s natty
There is a zero percent chance this guy is natty or honest about what he does
If Shawn Baker is natty then so do liver kang and mike o'tren lol
any non-diabetic will have around 5 in hba1c.
some schizos claim meat and saturated fat alone cause diabetes. He also had a pre diabetic hba1c reading a few years ago, not sure what was up with that.
On a ketogenic diet your blood cells live longer. HBA1c measures the blod cells lifetime exposure to glucose so despite having persistently low blood glucose the HBA1c can be elevated.
As far as I know this doesn't cause any health problems. It's just one of many health markers which need to be interpreted in the context of the diet being eaten.
That is correct. Saturated fat impairs cellular insulin sensitivity while animal protein and saturated fat double clap pancreas. There’s a reason why type 2 diabetes is almost nonexistent among vegans in every weight category (although surely enough its prevalence does go up with obesity)
Go back, goyfeeder.
I'm gonna co-opt this thread for a dietary question. I'm tired of being hungry skeleton. I saw that the recommendation is 1g protein/pound at goal weight, but wouldn't achieving this catapult your calorie count to a fat as fatass levels?
Calorie estimates don't indicate how fattening a substance is.
your mother's semen
Rice, oatmeal, potatoes, sweet potatoes
Fruits and vegetables
A moderate amount of protein from eggs, fish, dairy
Fat from olive oil, nuts, eggs, dairy, chocolate
Everything in moderation
Proteinmaxxing is gay and moronic. You get the best results by eating as many carbs as possible. It's about having energy to exercise.
This guy is on steroids
Unironically correct. I remember when I used to focus on protein, I got no results, because actually no energy.
All this keto bullshit is probably good if you're already big and just want to keep the gains while not exercising.
All this carnivore/keto bullshit is real bullshit. So many big bodybuilders have spoken about how fricking annoying it is to constantly have to chew meat. And they eat carbs with it.
Imagine eating just meat and thinking you're winning. It's what boys think makes them men - chewing on a sausage.
Where are all the cave paintings of primitive man using his vitamix to mix his daily greens powder into his goji berry smoothie?
Where are all the MRIs and blood tests of cavemen?
Why would evolution need to factor in MRI and blood tests?
People who make what they eat the focal point of their existence and personality are not happy on the inside. Its really quite sad. Eating disorder on full display, promoted as health.
Shawn Baker seems happy.
>Shawn Baker seems happy.
Yeah smiles are so indicative of reality huh
>name is Baker
>doesn't eat bread
He shames his ancestors
>What is the best food for fitness?
a balanced diet of natural foods
if you disagree with this you are schizophrenic and you need to take your meds
Define balanced
Define natural
I wonder why he didn't define those terms like you asked.
Reminder that Daniel ate only beans and refused the royal food and he was considered healthy and strong compared to the kings men who ate meat. Its almost like.... The Greek testament is nonsense
Ezekiel 4:9
Also take for yourself wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet, and spelt; put them into one vessel, and make bread of them for yourself. During the number of days that you lie on your side, three hundred and ninety days, you shall eat it. 10 And your food which you eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day; from time to time you shall eat it. 11 You shall also drink water by measure, one-sixth of a hin; from time to time you shall drink. 12 And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of human waste in their sight.”
13 Then the Lord said, “So shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, where I will drive them.”
14 So I said, “Ah, Lord God! Indeed I have never defiled myself from my youth till now; I have never eaten what died of itself or was torn by beasts, nor has abominable[a] flesh ever come into my mouth.”
15 Then He said to me, “See, I am giving you cow dung instead of human waste, and you shall prepare your bread over it.”
16 Moreover He said to me, “Son of man, surely I will cut off the supply of bread in Jerusalem; they shall eat bread by weight and with anxiety, and shall drink water by measure and with dread, 17 that they may lack bread and water, and be dismayed with one another, and waste away because of their iniquity.
>Be not among drunkards or among gluttonous eaters of meat, for the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and slumber will clothe them with rags.
Proverbs 23:20-21
My ex girlfriend was an OMAD carnivore
Never saw her eat anything but chicken
She was fricking weird, but it helped her lose 30kg in 3 months
Is this supposed to be surprising or amazing in some way? Are ketotards really this stupid? He’s not 30% body fat of course he’s not diabetic. But he may be mentally moronic.
>Is this supposed to be surprising or amazing in some way?
To a leftist it is surprising. They have been told red meat causes diabetes and leftists always trust authority.
>He’s not 30% body fat of course he’s not diabetic.
Skinny people can get diabetes.
Eggs, Meat (chicken and lean beef, fish if you want.) Leafy greens, some rice (especially on workout days) onions, carrots, corn, beans
>chicken and lean beef
Why?
Fatty red meat is most nutritious.
Eh, I'm on a cut so I guess that's the only reason why I say lean.
Nothing wrong with fatty red meat
Why do you eat low-fat when "on a cut"?
>why do you cut out the most calorie dense macro when trying to cut calories
I thought I'm supposed to not eat the fat to lose fat
That was actually a lie. The government lies about health. Surprising, I know.
The best way to get lean is eating high-fat low-carb. Body composition is a result of hormones. High fat diets optimize hormones.
The government does not endorse or promote a weight reduction diet
I agree. Government diet advice is solely intended to maximize profits.
>I agree.
Its not an opinion its a fact
I agree. Plant-based diets are proven to be harmful. Government recommends it anyway because they know it makes a bunch of money for rich people.
yes, because everyone knows nobody is getting rich from owning and operating meat farms. they either operate at a loss or donate their profits to charity. it's only the plant companies that generate profit, ever.
Correct. Meat corporations desperately want to switch to selling soya slop because the profit margins on meat are far too slim.
Ranchers are barely profitable due to government regulations designed to funnel money into the hands of middlemen. And even with favourable regulation meat companies still make peanuts compared to plant-based corporations.
>Bwaaaa the government is trying to keep us down!
Meanwhile the animal agriculture industry is the most heavily government subsided industry in the country.
Keep us down? It's not a big mystery why globohomosexual pushes plant-based diets.
>CocaCola net profit margin as of June 30, 2023 is 23.92%.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/KO/cocacola/profit-margins
>JBS SA net profit margin as of June 30, 2023 is 0.32%.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/JBSAY/jbs-sa/profit-margins
If plant-based diets were healthy they would still push it. They care only about profits.
Yeah most of Cargill's profits come from selling fertilizer for plant-based foods. That's why they focus on growing that market instead of trying to promote meat. These meat companies don't care for the meat part of their businesses and would rather replace it with plant-based products.
If the government didn't want you eating meat they would stop subsidizing it. Period.
>$3.95 billion net profit in FY 2008
>"Cargill Heads to Record Profit on Boom Agriculture..."
Who asked?
Correct. The food Pyramid was disinformation
The food pyramid wasn't for weight loss
it was for a "healthy" diet that makes you fat and your bones brittle and mind cloudy. Not Healthy
technically the government isn't lying about health information, they're just parroting whatever the corporate agriculture and food product firms tell them, which of course is tailored to helping them sell their products.
High fat low carb does in fact SUCK for keeping gains.
I’ll concede that low carb is great for sedentary people. PROVIDED THEY EAT ENOUGH PROTEIN
High-fat ketogenic diets are the best for retaining or gaining muscle mass.
Again
>50+yr old, married w/kids.
>those delts
>skin looking like Bob the Tomato
Yeah I’m thinking not natty.
I’m not saying to snarf down wonder bread. Ideally, the “animal based diet” is good because it cuts out refined grains and sneeds. Also good luck getting your potassium on a carnivore diet w/o milk
Guy has been an athlete his whole life and trains hard regularly. He's challenged people to pay for a test to check if he's natty, and nobody has taken him up on the offer.
The idea that you can't put on good amounts of muscle after you're 40+ is just a symptom of how crappy your average person's diet and health is, and this is also coming from a culture where most of the fitness influencers are abusing drugs, so they think anyone who succeeds is also a drug user, with people like Scooby eating their traditional low-fat bodybuilder diet and needing to start steroids because their hormones are now fricked.
Carnivore/low-carb/keto is good for hormone regulation, which your average person is regularly fricking up. Just look at trannies when you want to see the result of your hormones being so out of whack you literally think you're the opposite sex. That's not healthy, or normal.
>look at trannies when you want to see the result of your hormones being so out of whack you literally think you're the opposite sex
That has next to nothing to do with hormones
People "feeling" like more masculine or feminine to the point where they want to act as the opposite sex has nothing to do with their hormonal profile? They just feel like that because.. they do?
People don't feel that way. Its a fad.
You can't claim they do, and they at least say they do feel that way, anyways. One can't help wondering if it's another symptom of people's health being out of whack, making their hormones fricked up and causing a myriad of health issues.
MEN'S homrones are fricked up and their test is in the shitter, on average.
Yeah I can. I didn't read the rest of your post.
>He's challenged people to pay for a test to check if he's natty,
He's refused every offer to watch him to make sure he really eats like that
Please provide evidence
He's definitely natty. If this is confusing to you then you're probably the type of person who gets confused by conflicting advice over eggs.
Everyone who insists that Shawn Baker isn't natty is a leftist with an agenda. Nobody credible has ever accused him.
Even just looking at his physique it is all proportional. Looks natty. His lifts are also all in natty ranges. No reason to say otherwise other than vegan butthurt.
Its impossible to eat too little protein on a diet of non processed foods that is calorie sufficient
>High fat low carb does in fact SUCK for keeping gains.
Then why am I getting swole as frick and stronger while eating only eggs, fish, meat, and butter?
all of them; he's a söycuck
Because it's hard to stay in a deficit when you eat calorically dense foods.
Because people have been brainwashed
sticky
I ve been eating and drinking like shit for around three years and my a1c is 5.7. So idk what that says but if mine is barely different t than his then something isn't right.
Reminder to ignore the ketogay
You're not wrong.
top kek
ketogays are delusional
>ketogays are delusional
How so?
now show your kidney function
Keto is a fine diet but you can't do it indefinitely. I did keto until I got back into mountain biking. You can't do strenuous cardio activities on Keto. It will tank your energy.
Wrong. Zerocarb/keto is great for athleticism.
Wrong. Being dehydrated all the time is very bad for athleticism.
You can't get dehydrated on a LCHF diet. The body makes metabolic water from fat.
This is the most insane cope I've ever heard. Does it make sodium too? Because LCHF people have to supplement salt if they don't already liberally salt their foods since it changes how your body and kidneys handle water
>You can't do strenuous cardio activities on Keto. It will tank your energy.
This isn't true at all, I would bike and walk for 1 hour alternating every day on keto just fine.
I put an amount of hours towards working out that would freak you the frick out. I practice judo, kickboxing, go mountain biking, hiking, running, ride dirt bikes, do calisthenics, you name it. Nothing, I repeat, nothing, beats getting as close to zero carb as possible for working out. Nothing. It comes to a point that you feel like you could go on forever.
Zerocarb/carnivore is going to become big in sports soon. Random dudes are already winning national level competitions (e.g. Big10 decathlon, pic related) just by not eating carbs.
That's old news and I think Talbot wasn't that strict with the diet. Look at this motherfricker climbing El Capitan in record time without drinking any water nor eating any of the homosexual sugary shit carbeaters NEED to munch on every twenty minutes when doing things like this: https://www.mensjournal.com/news/world-record-yosemite-climber-meat-diet.
>He beat the previous record-holder, Alex Honnold, by over an hour.
Thanks for sharing this. That guy is incredibly based.
I saw the story and never saw it mentioned that he was on carnivore. I guess they wanted to bury the lede.
>I guess they wanted to bury the lede.
You can bet your ass most people don't want to give carbs away. They're addicted and it's too convenient to eat them. Every person I meet in sports circles who asks me about diet freaks out when I tell them I do carnivore. They are incredibly afraid of "running out of energy"; they think they absolutely need to replenish sugar stores or else they're risking even death in some circumstances. It's moronic. Whenever I train with them and they go "dude, you're still eating no carbs? How the frick aren't you dead already" I get the widest shit-eating grin. But because all that I don't think it's going to be much more popular in the near future.
Anyone who wants to set a new record for that rock climb is now basically forced to eat a carnivore diet.
I saw a sports team recently dropped its nutritionist after a plant-based diet plan caused them to have a terrible season. What would happen if a different team hires a carnivore nutritionist? They will have the best season ever and set a new standard.
Competition will result in athletes trending toward carnivore unless top-down manipulation prevents it.
>Competition will result in athletes trending toward carnivore unless top-down manipulation prevents it.
I don't know about that. If you add yet another stress-inducing factor to elite competition, you're either going to get too much stress, making athletes drop it eventually or suffer bad results, or very little adherence to the diet in most cases. Food is one of the hardest things for anyone to treat with strict discipline. I mean, you just have to look at what's the very first thing many athletes do after a match or a fight: feast on junk food. It's a way to get some quick gratification or reward. Many people try to alleviate anxiety by eating like shit, too. If you tell them they have to stick to eating nothing but meat, fish, and eggs for the entire season, they're going to be against it. Most people, anyways. But, yeah, it should take just one Tour de France team adopting the diet and getting better results to make the diet immensely more popular.
How many jabs are you on?
Hilarious how you always go to this when you get BTFO
>B-b-b-but what about he vaccine? I'm fitting in right guys?
Can upload comparison pics if needed
was 375 lbs
now 200
Since there's two morons fighting in here Id like to share my experience with KETO and CICO
I lost the majority of the year weight with just keto, no calorie counting but I assume I was eating just below 2000 because of how filling it was
but I also kept going off it because cravings got the better of my fat ass, I also injured myself so all the weight loss was without working out, only daily 45 min walks sometimes twice a day
I always lost about 1 KG a week not counting calories and that eventually reduced to 0.5 and sometimes nothing, I had the "i can eat however much I want" mentality and that honestly did work but at one point it obviously didn't
earlier this year I was 250 (april)
decided to give keto another go but also strict CICO along with it, still no working out because back is fricked up
I lost more every week on average from April this year until late July (i've been 200 since then working on fitness now) than I did when I started at 375. roughly ~1.25 KGs a week.
Been off keto for 3 months now and it's imo better for the mental if this makes sense because I just count my calories and still get in what I want but I do struggle far more eating higher in protein now without having to rely on protein shakes/supps whereas on Keto it was very easy for me to eat 175+ grams of protein.
Out of my own experience: Keto is superior to start with as an obese person but the moment you want to lift, work out and not feel like you're in a food jail anymore switch to carbs CICO, working out on Keto was impossible id nearly pass out 25 minutes into my workouts (before I injured myself)
hope this helps fighting anons!
THE ONE THAT TRIGGERS THE MOST moronS
THAT IS THE WAY
THAT IS HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN
NEVER FORGET THIS WHENER YOU ARE IN DOUBT
THE RIGHT WAY IS THE WAY WHICH TRIGGERS THE MOST NPC CATTLE FRICKS
LMAO
People obsessed with food are the lowest grade monkeys.
Vegans, carnivores, ketoschizo. Whatever shit you're obsessing about, you're a fricking idiot.
Eat food, do stuff. Shrimple as.
>Having ANY kind of criterion for what you put in your mouth is stupid
Okay.
>Almost 1 month carnivore
So far I have most of the benefits and I'm definitely gonna keep doing it.
That being said, the only benefit I don't have is the "more energy". I don't feel more energetic bros. I'm kinda sleeping more naps.
What gives??
It can take months to get fully fat adapted. Or your electrolytes are depleted from peeing them out when your insulin levels dropped. Could be a combination of both.
Get salt, potassium, and magnesium. And stick with it until your body is maximally fat adapted.
Gonna keep doing it. Worst case scenario this shit is worth it even without the boost of energy.
carnivore is the way
I have a theory.
The reason why people are so fat, unhealthy and moronic has nothing to do with eating carbs or grains but with the fact they are eating an over abundance of them while also not exercising.
What causes eating?
Hunger.
Is it possible some foods cause increased hunger?
There are people that 100% eat out of boredom.
Oysters. They have me leaking precum and don't make my hair go white and make me throw up like zinc pills.
I went to a party and asked if there was meat
The dude said yes
I are the beat and the meat balls
Next day I had a terrible stomachache
Now I got swelling feet
Turns out it was meat made of based beans with a shitton of MSG
>I eat* the meat* and the meat balls
rip brain too
if you want to eat an 'ancestral diet' why not follow the ways of tye ladt hunter gatherers living in their wild territories? They eat 60 percent wild tubers (fibrous potatoes) 15 percent pure honey, small gake with organs and some berries. They get 15k steps per day, with one hour of vigorous activity. They do not get western diseases. They do not eat youtube meme supplement salesman diets, they do not fast, they do not eat one meal per day. They burn the same amount of calories as your average amerislop sitting on the couch due to constrained energy expenditure. All proven with doubly labeled water studies, read 'Burn'
>They eat 60 percent wild tubers (fibrous potatoes) 15 percent pure honey, small gake with organs and some berries
I don't care what some Black person in some african shithole eats. in northern europe you'll find frickall in forests and are completely reliant on meat outside of a short window when berries and mushroom are available. Unless you are some pajeet streetshitter or a nog carnivore is the only choice unless you really think youll be eating tubers, honey and berries from october to april in a frozen hellhole. now take your fricking stawman and frick off.
So you admit a diet being natural is irrelevant and you just prefer the diet you want
>So you admit a diet being natural is irrelevant and you just prefer the diet you want
no, morono. what I am saying is this type of diet is extremely unnatural where i am from.
>where I am from
Okay so its nothing
>Unless you are some pajeet streetshitter or a nog carnivore is the only choice unless you really think youll be eating tubers, honey and berries from october to april in a frozen hellhole. now take your fricking stawman and frick off.
OK so your position is that naked humans stalked down their prey for hours on end, bare feet in the snow. And beat then to death with their bare hands? After all spears and clothing isn't natural.
Eggs and potatoes
While most american athletes consume rice and chicked, eggs+potatoes not only taste richer but contain a ton more other stuff you shoild be eating.
Potatoes are worthless. Steak and eggs.
>I'm eating red meat and don't have diabetes!!!
What?
Also my HBA1C is lower and I'm skinnyfat
Leftists claim meat causes diabetes.
>the study saying that consider that people who eats meat twice a week have more chances getting diabetic than people who don't eat meat
>what was considered meat in the study: LASAGNA
wtf bros
Leftists are very dishonest people. Always using fearmongering to manipulate.
im so glad im gay idk any married men whose wifes arent making green glop like this these days
>just trust this guys advice man!!
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enjoy your day of deep throating big pharma
Enjoy your day of listening to the virtues of beef from the guy that sells beef lol
I've been zero carb for a good 110 days or so now. Down around 60lbs and feel great all the time.
*cures MS*