What is the best way to consume nicotine?
I tried vaping but after 2 weeks I felt like my lungs did feel different. Do cigars give you a head rush?
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What is the best way to consume nicotine? I tried vaping but after 2 weeks I felt like my lungs did feel different.
I just get tired when I pop a zyn
What is going on with zyn lately?
pouches are good, but zyn sucks ass. Picrel is clearly superiour
either one autist who developed new obsession(unlikely, there would be a lot more rage outbursts in those threads if that was a case) or shill campaign (poojet spamming those threads at 0,05$ per hour is cheap)
Velo fricking suck ass, they're either salty or without a kick
Anything is better than Zyn. Skruf makes the best nicotine pouches imo.
Also if anyone in here is thinking of picking up a nicotine addiction, DON'T.
t. longtime snus addict
Guerilla marketing campaign on IST.
Copenhagen long cut. Anything else makes you gay
try ZYN
nicotine pouches or gum is probably the objectively "best" way for your health
those pachas are poverty tier
anything with smoke is always cringe
anything with tobacco is always cringe
leaves you with patches, but thats slow release
gums are pretty low dosage, short term the chewing is healthy, but long term not so much
best bet is probably the pouches, but that might lead to gum cancer down the line, that is unproven however.
in any case dont get any of the brands mentioned here, thats israeli internet marketing
why would cigars be cringe
Enjoy your HTN, CHF, COPD and hairloss. You will die a slow death from your 50-70s drowning in your own fluids.
You homies think everything causes hairloss damn, feminine ass board
bald ass homie
But all the data says nicotine itself isn't that addictive if you didn't smoke and it's a good cognitive enhancer with a much shorter half life than caffeine... I've been looking into it since I saw Tucker Carlson talk about it. Just moderate your usage to only boost dopamine around important tasks, such as a preworkout or when it's crunch time at work.
>Tucker Carlson
Lmao.
No stimulant is better, what's the point of nicotine or caffeine? Junkie
>not that addictive
Tell that to somebody trying to cut it. Doesnt change the fact it rapes your vascular system and will guarantee you a slow and shitty death
People trying to cut it are addicted to the act of smoking. If you start as a smoker you'll have a much worse time. People have tried it and determined the nicotine itself is not addictive, but the pathways you made as a smoker can frick you up.
>trust me bro people have tried it
You sound like an 8 year old. Still doesnt matter, and nicotine is awful for you. Honestly worse that heroine for your body, up there with meth tbqh. Im amazed its still legal
Are you a neuroscientist? Andrew Huberman has talked about the benefits on his podcast.
>((Andrew Huberman))
No im a medgay, and i dont go for the call to authority shit. I can tell you for a fact that nicotine is moronic. I take care of people every day i work at the hospital that are dying due to them having used nicotine products. Forget cancer, try being in your 50s and having an enlarged non functioning heart with an ef of 15%: where just standing up and shuffling to the bathroom is enough to make you tachycardic and short of breath, and lungs so fricked you need albuterol ever 3 hours just so you dont die from suffocation. I have seen first hand every single day i work what nicotine does. You are moronic if you choose to smoke or use any other form of nicotine. There is no benefit worth the cost nicotine has on you cardiovascular system.
>You are moronic if you choose to smoke or use any other form of nicotine.
You are moronic if you lump inhaling carcinogens in with ingesting pure lab produced nicotine.
>carcinogens
Can you not read, are you just using buzzwords to sounds smart? Forget cancer you wont get it, next to no one gets cancer from smoking, but they all develop heart failure, carcinogens dont cause that, nicotine does: it is toxic to our cardiovascular system. Have fun fricking up your body. Just remember me wen you are in your 60s and dying from heart failure due to your superior lab isolated nicotine
The main problem with smoking is that the lungs are delicate and inhaling ash is filthy. These other nicotine delivery mechanisms wouldn't exist if this weren't established.
he's not talking about smoking moron
he's talking about NIC O TINE
>You are moronic if you choose to smoke
> I can tell you for a fact that nicotine is moronic.
> dying due to them having used nicotine products.
> You are moronic if you choose to smoke or use any other form of nicotine.
How bout you read the whole thing you mong.
>actually moronic
Before you respond to me again, please go back and read my posts. I have said multiple times, it is not smoking, but nicotine that causes damage to your body. And before you take your next dose of nicotine from your preferred source, take 15 minutes to search in google the toxic effects nicotine has on your cardiovascular system, and how hypertension(due to the nicotine) will frick your life over if left unchecked.
I've never taken nicotine in my life. I've never had a soft drink or alcohol in my life either. I'm probably the most impressive natural athlete at my gym. Can I not discuss things?
you waste your time trying to reach people like this
do not try to convince people anymore, internet-era people are beyond convincing. they have always known everything their whole life. after all, they can find something or someone who agrees with any thought. that's how knowledge works, right?
You reply like a redditor. It's time to go back.
Also hypertension is probably the least likely effect for me, as genetically my family has always had perfect blood pressure and I don't eat slop.
Cool nicotine will ruin that perfect streak
Now you have to post body then you genetic specimen, and from what you have shown me you are incapable of discussion due to your poor reading comprehension skills
Don't have photos because I don't take photos and I'm not a female.
>doxx yourself for the internet discussion
I'm legitimately big enough that it would be distinct.
Thanks for verifying your a dyel homosexual. Everyone who is big has progress pics, and nobody would be able to tell it is you.
>Everyone who is big has progress pics
Interesting claim.
>Everyone
False. Source me, not a vain homosexual, don't consoom the newest products so my phone camera is terrible.
Even better the low photo quality will make you harder to recognize. Post bicep if you really are that worried. Ball is in your court, until you post body you are a no lift dyel gay.
And if you were an athlete you'd know you made the most progress on your physique in your teens, and it was rapid so there are no progress pictures to take. You probably started working out at 30 though so you'll get none of the benefits of the naturally peaked hormone profile.
>you have to be 18 to post here
Played football, track, and b ball in high school. Track in college. I have progress pics all the way back to 19 years old when i officially started lifting. You are a coping dyel gay who got called out, still no bicep posted too.
bro, but andrew huberman said so
i didnt have a father so watch me idolize masculinity-projecting talking heads on youtube
he has a beard, that means he is as good as a dad, right?
You are the one sounding like a brown moron in this thread exercise physiologist. Couldn't hack it at a real school in a STEM program so now you hang around at the gym making $25 an hour.
>You are the one sounding like
: )
yeah bro
i can literally hear that in your rapesh voice
https://voca.ro/17SI3LTIqOK3
Why are you so married to this Indian thing? I'm guessing you're half brown and projecting at this point.
You do know there's a shift key on your keyboard correct? You type like a bratty tween. You can leave now that we've established that I mog you intellectually. Let's see that bachelor of science buddy. I'm likely taller and more jacked than you as well, I am German and Russian.
Really? 2-3 gums a week will rape your vascular system? That's not at all based on evidence from people filling their lungs with god knows what chemicals from smoking a pack a day with probably 20x the amount of nicotine as a gum?
YOU are VAXXED !!
100% pure blood, ill never fall for the nicotine ((jew))
nothing like a good lip of grizzly straight after a workout
I lost about 3mm of gums on my incisors using patches for a year. i was a fiend and pretty much swapping them out to have them in all day so I'd just be moderate if going that route. I switched back to vaping.
this is why im not personally worried about my nicotine consumption
i put a pouch in as part of my workout to kickstart my brain while doing zone2 cardio
so i end up using it once a day
people talk about negative effects then mention that they're doing a can a day
just smoke a gay instead of being one
Pipe smokers live the longest,
Pipe smokers who mouth and throat inhale instead of lung inhale have a higher life expectancy than average population.
Zyn is okay. I tried nic nac for a little bit and it caused my gums to recede so definitely not that
Nicotine pouches
Snuff
When are they dropping the IV nicotine kits? It's only a matter of time
pic related
The difference between a proper vape and those disposable shit sticks is massive. Thats like saying you don't like any alcohol when you've only had Colt45.
Those pieces of shit barely even hit and burn the shit out of my mouth. Got a top tier geek vape and high quality juice and its like night and day. Its still bad for you dont get me wrong but using those cheap crack pipes is just speed running it.
>doing t bar rows forgetting i have a zyn pouch in
>cute girl walks in front of me
>lift harder to impress gril
>pouch shoots out of mouth onto the floor next to her
>she looks down at the pouch and then up at me in disgust
how do i quit bros
Swedish study found pouch users had an average increase of testosterone of 15% from the nicotine, but a reduction in sperm quality of 25%.
>Swedish study found pouch users had an average increase of testosterone of 15% from the nicotine
>correlation is causation
Do you also think wheelchairs cause leg injuries? Do you go around stealing crutches from grannies to cure their legs?
Have you considered higher testosterone is associated with increased risk taking, such as use of harmful substances?
What is harmful about nicotine? It's not tobacco.
Start a business neet then you'll understand.
snuff tobacco
If you want to consume nicotine for stimulant purposes, use an oral spray.
Every other answer in the thread is wrong.
t. exercise physiologist. Don't bother disputing my post unless you come with papers.
fricking zyn...it is so shameful to see a generation of idiots to fall for the same old, "most harmful thing you could possibly do to your body" class of products.
that being said, don't do nicotine for stimulant purposes
it damages the blood vessels of your heart and brain. pretty open and shut case.
Can I see the meta analysis that comes to that conclusion?
why the frick would you need a meta-analysis of an observable physiochemical effect you absolute fricking shit for brains pseud
don't attempt to reference or use studies in any way; you don't understand the basic principles behind scientific thought
Who has observed this effect? Where? Wouldn't coffee do the exact same thing because it's a stimulant? You come with zero evidence and claim things I have never heard.
>I have no idea what the frick I'm about, make a nuanced argument convincing me of textbook fact!
or you could just frick off, you were dismissed
when credentialed people speak factual information it isn't an invitation to argue, the internet has made you think you're some genius when you are a high schooler from a brown country who will likely never see USD $20/hr
I have a bachelor of science. You claimed you're an.... exercise physiologist? I mog you. You have never taken calculus brainlet.
>when credentialed people speak factual information it isn't an invitation to argue
Case closed.
velo/zyn or whatever tobaccoless nicotine pouch
why:
>no tobacco
even chewing tobacco can give you mouth cancer, you don't have to smoke it
>no breathing in any kind of fumes
self explanatory, you shouldn't breathe anything that isn't oxygen
>no weird additives
depending on the kind of pouch but i'm pretty sure i had used ones that only had menthol in them and that's it
it's basically a cotton swab soaked in nicotine and menthol getting absorbed into your bloodstream through the gums, the only concern is nicotine
i used to smoke, vape, snuff, chew, and i felt the best after velo. i don't do nicotine anymore since it's too expensive and does nothing, also there are no health benefits
>that isn't oxygen
AIR is mostly NITROGEN you STUPID b***h
you would DIE breathing pure oxygen, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU DESERVE
if you ever post misinformation on IST again, you will be SLAUGHTERED like the fat little piggy you are
you’re kinda dumb aren’t you?
pouches
Why do u morons need nicotine so badly. Tiny test boost you wont feel, for a waste of money and shit side effects and probably cancer yea nice bro
>4mg
Do americans really?
As an American how much that in Imperials??