What is the hardest?
>1 pl8 OHP
>2 pl8 bench
>3 pl8 squat
>4 pl8 deadlift
>mogul investor status
What is the hardest? >1 pl8 OHP. >2 pl8 bench. >3 pl8 squat. >4 pl8 deadlift. >mogul investor status
What is the hardest?
>1 pl8 OHP
>2 pl8 bench
>3 pl8 squat
>4 pl8 deadlift
>mogul investor status
BP is the hardest if you don't have training partner or safeties, you always have that mental block once you get near the failure, even when you learn the proper "technique" of failing BP and not hurting yourself
>proper "technique" of failing BP and not hurting yourself
is this the moronic Sam sulak meme or throwing it across the room?
*of
Just learn to roll of shame.
>I had to do this for 1pl8
I'm so fricking weak kek
Less embarrassing than asking someone to get that 1pl8 barbell off your chest imo.
have you ever had sex before?
not him but I bench 2pl8 and I have never even held a girls hand
some girls have clammy hands, you aren't missing anything
nice binch tho
How tall is this dude. That grip seems insanely wide.
Wide grip so he can cheat, less distance down and up. Just like sumo lifting in deadlift. It's ego lifting aka homosexualry.
Don't worry, he still benches four times as much as you even with close grip.
>white knighting for a fat, stinky powerlifter
He'd have sex with you even without this incredibly embarrassing display, nobody thinks his cheat bench is impressive except you
Well, if his bench is unimpressive, then I'm sure you'll post yours, right? Nothing to be ashamed of after all. Got a vid?
>cheat bench
>clearly pauses it on his chest for a solid bit before pressing it
Okay DYEL stay small and mad
He bounced it off his huge gut which he deliberately positioned as fatly as possible because that would be less work, which fatties love
He touched his chest though not his gut, also
>pushes 500+
>less work
You can’t even do half of that can you
1pl8 done properly is more work than that bullshit
I bet you guys use the leg press too lol
So you bench 1 plate? I did that when I was 15 years old. It’s not that heavy, in fact, it’s light and easy. The guy in OP could probably bench 1 plate with the most perfect form imaginable for 100 reps.
Damn you're like in love with this guy, or is it actually you in that webm? Those are the only explanations that make sense
No. I’m just refuting your garbage argument which is clearly just you coping with being unable to lift as much as another person even though you could just stfu and work on yourself you would rather spend your life here not improving and just crabbing other people.
I was never making an argument, moron. I made an observation and you were offended by my characterization of that observation. Because you're in love with a fat man in a sweatshirt.
You're talking to two people by the way. The original guy you said was in love, me, asked for a video of your bench. Twice. Where is it? The only reason to make that ""observation"" is insecurity. I'll concede and take back all my words if you can show me you benching a meager two (2) plates. I know you can't. People that actually lift understand that the guy is way stronger than you even if he were to go with the strictest technique possible.
Nobody here cares about the guy in the webm or his feelings. The only thing that we're fascinated about is your insecurity and your way of coping with it.
>I wasn’t making an argument I was just saying he’s not strong and his lift is cheating because of stuff
That’s called making an argument moron. You’re also arguing that I’m in love with a fat man which is hilarious because I love only skinny women, it’s just plain as day to me that you are projecting and coping over your lack of strength and doing everything you can to make yourself feel superior. Shameful display, you’re probably israeli or brown or both. Post skin color and bench PR.
Kek, this is like benchracers on IST that claim they can drive better than an F1 champ but actually don't own a car. Shut up, gaylord.
Don't ignore me
. Where's your bench? People are impressed by this guy and you mog him, so you have nothing to be embarrassed about. Post it.
Incredibly risky for no benefit when you can just bench with safeties in a rack. There's literally no reason not to use them.
You shouldn’t be afraid of failing bench when it’s < 300 lbs
3pl8 squat, most people can’t squat properly and getting heavier makes squatting harder
The only correct answer. Squatting properly is hard.
I hit 3pl8 squat months months before the other lifts, 1pl8 ohp actually came last for me
it was a no-depth shart, I have seen you in the gym
nta but 3pl8 squat was also the first i hit. i go below parallel. it was always the most intuitive lift to me and i hit 2pl8 squat within months of lifting. took me years to hit 4pl8 deadlift which i'm at right now. still not at 2pl8 bench but i'm getting close. my weight is 135lbs.
For me it was the deadlift, which was also the easiest of 2/3/4/5.
deadlift for sure, especially if we don't count sumo which no one should
OHP is objectively the easiest. Just get fat.
BP is a little harder, but you can increase it just by getting fat.
Squat is hard. Deadlift is the hardest.
>Squat is hard
I could 3 plate squat my first day in the gym. I still cannot bench 2 plates.
You don't need to be fat for OHP. I'm a dyel looking guy at 185-86lbs at 6ft1. I'm got to 1pl8 fast. I think its more about your frame and how wide the shoulders are.
That image applies to a lot of things. I like to go bowling, but I absolutely beat myself up if I do less than 180. Meanwhile, everyone around me is happy to break 100. It really is true that it's lonely at the top.
Also, 4 plate DL, at least for me. All the others, I can go at least a plate heavier, but personal best for deadlift is 4.25 plate. I don't use a hernia belt, joint sleeves, or wrist straps, but I do use chalk.
>but I do use chalk
so you can't actually perform the lift? got it
3 pl8 squat for me. 1pl8 ohp, 2pl8 bp and 4 pl8 DL came way before. I'm 6'2 and I guess my knees kind of buckled wierd for a while with squat so I took my time increasing it while everything else was normal.
Depends on the person. 2 plate bench is easily the hardest for me.
I'm not even sure I could hit 225 bench for a single currently, when I can squat 365x5 and deadlift 435x5. I'm hard stuck at 205x5 on bench.
Thumb over bb, db underhand, 50-60% bb underhand, wide to narrow hit it twice, cables and machines. Hit so much volume you can't hit your pr.
Should be the easiest, your actual front delts might be lacking hit more incline bb curls bb delt raises hand on bench db raises and pushdowns all day, you can bench 4x a week if you only go heavy 1-2x a week if you deload enough.
no shot youve got 205x5 but cant push 225 for a single
My current working sets for bench are 200lbs for 8 - 7 - 7 - 6
I maxed out a few weeks ago 3x3 style
215 for 3
225 for 3
235 for 1
You can definitely hit 225 for a single
idk but squatting was super easy, never went for 1rm but can rep like 6-7 315 while i can't bench 2 plates or deadlift 4. not ass to grass but definitely acceptable depth
How much is 1pl8
60000g
3pl8 squat and there is no correct alternative.
Everything was easy besides squat.
I am at 1.5/2.2/3/5 and all came WAY before the squat.
Tfw 1.5/3/5.5/5.5 squat is comfy.
1.5 is very weak in your case.
A 185 OHP with a 315 bench is perfectly in proportion though.
You got lucky on like 20 trades dude, WR is like 800/1000/1100 your standards are gay. Which translates to ~495/635/675.
What's your frickin ratio for bench to squat you're listening to people who don't fatiguemax.
If we are to assume proper form and full ROM then I say squat. Many people claim to hit 3+pl8s on squats, but I almost never see anybody squatting that much in gyms and especially not for full, proper, ATG range of motion. I surely believe many of these so-called "3pl8 squatters" (or even claims of higher weight) can quarter or even half rep this kind of weight but full ATG? I'd like to see that.
1pl8 OHP is easy, trivial. Hitting a 135 lb OHP when you're allowed to stand straight and use leg drive is easy. The real test should be a seated BTN OHP of 1pl8. Now that's fricking difficult, and will grow shoulders mass and strength immensely.
Same as a 2pl8 bench. If we're allowed to arch like a b***h in heat and do baby's first divebomb reps anybody above 170lbs should be able to hit that after a while.
And a 4pl8 deadlift is easy once you understand how to hip hinge properly. Again, many of these big "deadlifts" are being done with a form so atrocious it makes my back hurt just to watch.
Strength standards are fricking stupid anyways. Everyone has different physiognomy and that will give them different leverages and strengths/weaknesses.
You sound like a weak nerd.
You sound unkind and rude.
Yes but he has a point, you do sound like a weak nerd.
kek post body and lifts poofter
Squeezing your glutes while doing OHP isn't a push press is it. If you don't squeeze your posterior chain you'll fold in half like a half-cooked pancake. The kinetic chain from standing upright gives you more strength. Try doing a seated OHP if you don't believe me. I reached 135lbs on OHP very quickly when I started training and even today I am only repping 110lbs on seated BTN OHP for 10ish reps.
STFU about BTN
If you use leg drive its a push press, not OHP.
Post body and lifts please.
>The real test should be a seated BTN OHP of 1pl8
this relentless BTN shilling needs to stop
>t. narrow shoulderlets who can't press shit
Frick off tiny, BTN pressing is goated as frick and builds massive delts
The only reason it took so long for me to get some lifts to an acceptable level was because I never trained for strength and didn't follow proper progression. Honestly, it didn't get me anywhere, I didn't even look that good. The moment I got on strength programs and followed them consistently all my lifts improved. I was benching 180lbs for reps after several years and then got it to 245lbs for reps in a third of a year.
The only one I've ever achieved is a 3pl8 squat, and I'm nowhere near the others.
I took a two-year from the gym, but when I came back I decided to let my squat stall at 100kg to let my other lifts catch up. I think I just have really good genetics for it.
>there are people that never reached Mogul
it's so over
I don't do deadlifts but I think its (in terms of being the easiest) OHP > SQUAT > BP
I've hit OHP 1 pl8t for sets of 6 in 2 months. That should be the easiest IMO.
SQUAT 3pl8 imo is the second easiest. I started at 1pl8 and now I'm at 115kg for reps, I think I can progress fast on it. (I used to do bmx so my legs have always been a bit trained)
BP is lagging behind, started at 65 and stuck now at 85 for sets of 6. Progress is real slow and every time I do bench its such a grind. You also probably just go up in weight by like 2.5kg at most so getting from 1pl8 to 2pl8 even without hiccups takes a while.
OHP is the hardest if you're being strict. If you're using hip drahve it's much easier. Of course if you're brosplitting then you're hitting bench all the time. For a lp program squat is usually easiest.
easiest to hardest for me
squat > ohp > deadlift/bench
I'd say it depends a lot on the proportions of your body. Especially for squat and deadlift.
Depends on your build. OHP was by far the easiest, squat feels like it will never happen, but it will, one day.
For quite some time in the beginning I could OHP almost the same I could bench and more than I could squat.
For me squat. I'm never gonna get there because of knee travel and getting injuries from it. I don't even see the point in doing it because I have trunky legs to begin with.
depends on your limb lengths. I'd actually say bench or OHP is the hardest, but most people put way more effort into them.
I found a 3plate squat the hardest and also the dumbest - why keep increasing your squat until you:
- look like a moron
- no longer fit in pants off-the-rack
- cant run any distance at all without your squat dropping back down
t. $2M mogul lanklet at 33 who hit 1/2/3/4.
I started dropping my squat back down right after hitting 3plate. Nobody should squat 3plate unless you’re a pro rugby player trying to improve performance.
Really depends on your frame and which body parts are the strongest. I can do 4pl8 diddly but only 87.5kg bench but 57.5kg OHP. Squat 1RM is probably 130-135kg, last time I squatted 120x3
definitely fricking deadlift what is this question lol
for me its bench,
i do 1pl8 ohp for 6x8 no problem
3pl8 squat for 5x10 no issue
4pl8 diddy like 3x4
bench i can barely do 1.5pl8 for 5 reps, WTF DO I DO
anons please help, im running a new routine focusing on bench and rowing, doing more tricep work but im still struggling, w/h is 210lbs @ 6'5 and on a cut so i know to expect slower gains but still need advice, i have a home gym so cant train to 100% failure or i die lmao
maybe focus on things like retracting your shoulder blades and using the right grip width
So far I’ve hit 4pl8 deadlift, and 1pl8 OHP. Squat is stuck at 120kg for 1 rep. Bench has been stuck at 80kg for my working sets (haven’t tested 1RM) for a couple months because of my inconsistent programming. So I guess bench? Idk
For me
>4pl8 deadlift was easy, with deadlifts in general it's not difficult to get strong. You even see dyels and soibois doing 4 plates here
>2pl8 bench press second easiest, although I believe that's because I very much enjoy bench pressing and it's my favourite exercise. So I always went in with a positive mindset and gave it my all. I currently max out at 3pl8 on this
>Squatting 3pl8 was second hardest. Squats are always hard and very exhausting physically and mentally
>1pl8 ohp was the hardest, I seemed to progress incredibly slow on this. Plus I've never been heavier than 90kg, so i didn't have the bloatmax / mass moves mass factor on my side. Just a hard lift in general, plus there's always the mental block / fear of getting the all too common shoulder injury which so many lifters have
Depends on proportions and starting weight/strength. I’d say I knew a lot of fat guys in highschool who could squat 350-400 but could only bench like 185
>stuck at 170lb bench maximum
>CANNOT get to 2pl8
Help me
Bulk slowly and bench twice a week, do one tip set of flat bench and supplement with incline bench
for volume
w-what if I'm on a cut?
Lol bro good luck I had to fight tooth and nail to keep my strength up on a cut. Went from benching 205 for 5 at 195 bw to 165 for 10 at 157 bw
I can do all of those for reps easily except a 3pl8 squat. Haven't even done that for 1 rep yet. But I have fricked up knees and never train legs.
It all depends on your anatomy. Some dudes will squat 4 pl8 before they bench 2pl8
How long should it take to 1/2/3/4 for 3x5? At my current rate I might be close in like 2 years. Just added 2.5lb to my 1pl8 bench though yay
A couple years of strict training is a good metric for 1/2/3/4. If you can get to 3x5 1/2/3/4 in that time then you are built different.
You shouldn't be deadlifting 3x5 after a certain point.
When?
No idea. Check your program. IIRC SS will have you doing just 1x5 from the start. 3x5 deadlift once a week will become too much to recover from really quick.
Lol you morons are so in love its almost cute
You don’t lift your fat as shit brown and missing a testicle. Verification not required.
Fuuuck, lads, I'm so close to 1/2/3/4 for reps, except for OHP, by far my weakest lift. Sub 1pl8 is embarrassing but I have super long arms compared to my height (monkey factor +5). Stuck at 105x5 level. Tips? Kms?
That's not normal even with long arms - you can't blame it on that. Could very well be form related or just a shitty way of training. What do you do currently?
BP=225x4
S=315x2
DL=405x2 (only hit that one time)
OHP=115x1 🙁
I'll look into my form and see what I'm messing up. Thanks.
I meant how do you currently train OHP? Your OHP really is way too low comparatively. There is no way that's due to long arms.
Depends on body type, wrist size etc
I have small scoliosis and bp is by far the hardest, very hard to make my back comfortable during the movement, otherwise
The easiest one was ohp>squat>diddly
ohp 57.5kg x2
bp 85kg x3
squat 85kg 3x5 (kek i know)
dl 130kg x4
it never even began, did it?
on bench though it feels like after 1-2 reps of my heaviest working sets i lose all my tension in my back so it feels "wobbly", anyone got an idea whats causing this? i feel like those heavy sets dont hit my pecs as they should compared to when i do sth like 70kg x10 for way cleaner reps
woops didnt mean to tag (you)
I've hit deadlift 4pl8 for 3 multiple times, paused squat 3pl8 for 3, ohp 1pl8 for 3, but I still haven't hit bench 2pl8 for 1. I'm trying to rectify it right now by doing a ton of bench volume.
It literally entirely depends on how you're built. I have long arms and I got to a 5 plate deadlift before 2 plate bench
I'm convinced that mobility is my problem with OHP, but nothing I do seems to improve it. I can barely even do 40kg for 3x5.
bench and im a fatass too, im deadlift raw is 405x1 435x1 with straps squat 315 bench 205 ohp 140x3
At 160lbs my OHP is at 1, my bench is at 2, DL at 3.5 but haven't tried to PR it in a while, but my squat is absolutely pathetic, not even sure I can do 2pl8. I hate squatting so fricking much, so I'd say squat is the 3pl8 squat is the hardest
squats
Bench technique easily