What is the point of barbells if you have drumbells?

Can't you do almost every single exercise just with drumbells? Only one I guess you can't do is squatting but you can just like... squat while holding the drumbells up.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    any advantage to doing shoulder presses while sitting?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you don’t have to use your abs or balance so it’s easier to focus on shoulders, but you lose the core workout

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You target your sholders. OHP targets less off the shoulders and a lot of other stuff.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can prevent arching your back, especially later in your sets when you start experiencing some fatigue

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      works with low ceilings

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can press heavier weights because you don't have to stabilize, leading to better shoulder gains. But personally I'd still recommend standing OHP because the core/stabilization work is incredibly valuable

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The other way is true. Barbells are far more effective as you can load more weight. Seated Military OHP is so much better and more effective with barbells

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But you can't train just one arm and then the other one and barbells are way more dangerous. Most people who end up dead while working out is because of barbells.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, most people who die working out get squashed by a smith machine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Most people who end up dead while working out is because of barbells.
        Good lord, the demoralizing shills are getting ridiculous

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Good lord, the demoralizing shills are getting ridi-ACK

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >one retarded gay hurts himself
            I better never touch a barbell.
            Enjoy being weak for the rest of your life, fuckin shill

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Enjoy being weak for the rest of your life, fuckin sh-ACK

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I hope your lifts are stronger than your bantz.
                Your shits weak, bro

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Your shits weak, br-ACK

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your 130lb bench won’t kill you. I promise.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not that anon but you don’t know what a shill is

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's why I do quarter reps on everything - I can move more weight, making it superior

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's not what he's saying. the limiting factor on dumbells is stabilizer muscles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The limiting factor on dumbbells is getting the dumbbells into place period
          If you’re lifting heavy weight dumbbell bench is basically undoable without a spotter

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes that is also a limit factor

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that's not what he's saying. the limiting factor on dumbells is stabilizer muscles

            So stop ego lifting god damn newfags.
            anything done with free weight > barbell on the simple fact you can't compensate with it.
            Both sides going to have be just as strong.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              First of all you're a retard since barbell's are free weights. Second, you obviously don't know what they're even talking about because it has nothing to do with ego lifting.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >barbells are free weights
                >weights are literally stuck to a bar
                moron freeweights are kettlebells and dumbbells how fucking new are you god damn kid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Free weights are any weights that don't restrict movement a certain way like machines do. Dumbbells are literally just small plates onto smaller bars that you can't adjust. You're a fucking moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't restrict movement
                >says barbell
                So you can just magically just dislocate one of your shoulders, pop it off your body, and do a lateral raise with a barbell?
                Kid, you seriously need to lurk moar.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you can do a lat raise with a barbell. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about when you don't even know what the term free weight means lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Lurk moar
                Yeah, all you do is lurk and never lift, that’s why you have no clue what free weights mean

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I was with you until I read the second line, you should really read the sticky or maybe Starting Strength or Wikipedia perhaps. I don't know man, please just educate yourself before posting in the future, thanks.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Works great when you’re doing babyweight lifts as a beginner
    Once you start lifting heavy shit dumbbells become impractical

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. I put so much wright on a barbell when it's on a seated OHP rack. Now I wonder how I even get the same weight in dumbbells up. I think I can't

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You only need one barbell and a selection of weights to do almost any exercise. Dumbbells become plain awkward very quickly past 20-25kg even if you get adjustable ones. I have seen ridiculously yoked dudes lifting like 50kg+ adjustables that look better balance/ergonomics wise but I haven't seen dumbells like those in normal gyms. Non-adjustables entail having an entire goddamn rack of the things for different exercises.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, getting any DB over 50kg to your shoulders (if your gym even goes this high) is asking to fuck your shit up without a set of spotters. You can just bang a BB on a stand and load it to where you need. Not sure how you’d use heavy DBs for squatting either

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you guys like pathological liars or what because i can barely lift 4kg drumbells but you're telling me you're going around lifting 50kg?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lifting how? Sitting? Lying down? Angled?

      Are you, by any chance, a woman or new to working out? 4 kg shouldn't be any trouble for any position if you are a man.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      man, I can only lift 2kg dumbbells. Time to bulk I guess oWo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How fucking weak are you?!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      man, I can only lift 2kg dumbbells. Time to bulk I guess oWo

      what the fuck are you talking about, literally how
      I started lifting 10 days ago and for the exercises I have the least muscle power/mass (like lat raises or cables) i still do at least 8/9 Kg per arm
      you have to be trolling

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are you retarded. try squatting 315 lbs with dumbells tell me how it goes if youre even still alive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ???
      >160lb dbells in each hand, held dead
      >lower yourself in a squat movement, come back up
      give it a shot anon, its like using a trap bar

  8. 1 month ago
    John

    yes
    dumbbells are better and harder most of the time
    problem with barbells is one side might be outworking the other side and the centre of mass shifts a lot
    given up on barbell bench press, hurt my already injured shoulder when trying to correct my form
    appreciate the ROM and safety of dumbbells much more now.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure I could progress my squat with dumbells, you have to be able to clean the weight of the dumbells to squat it, but with barbell you simply just need the leg strength. The difference is being able to squat 2x the weight. With dumbell squats your arms give out before your legs do since you can't balance them on your spine, the strain is still mostly on your arms. Unless your arms are progressed much past your legs which I guess is normal for most since they try to mostly focus on their arms/chest.
    Barbells offer better stabilization despite less ROM, you don't have to focus as much on keeping your movements symmetrical. In the end barbells might be easier to progressively overload.
    Tried to progress with squats with dumbells alone and my legs out paced my arms, so I was stuck squatting a certain weight till my arms caught up and it just led to my upperbody outperforming my legs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried Romanian Split Squats? I suppose you'd eventually run into the issue of weight vs grip strength, but as a single leg exercise it would probably take much longer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bulgarian split squats*

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No Romanian Split squats are where you steal the dumbbells afterwards

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I suppose you'd eventually run into the issue of weight vs grip strength
        just buy 2$ straps and problem solved

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my squat is over 500lbs so you do the math on what kind of dumbbells I would need to get an effective work out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know your rep ranges or lifting goals but should be easily doable with split squats and using stuff like drop sets, myo reps etc. starting from 50kg on each hand.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bulgarian split squats, myo reps and so on are fantastic supplementary exercises and I do cycle through them in the course of my training. I also really like Zercher squats (another barbell exercise which I dont think you can replicate with dumbbells). None of these exercises are a substitute for heavy back squats however. I am a little less strong than I was before due to taking some time off from the gym, but prior to that I was able to PR at 540lbs, and was able to do a set of 5 reps of 495 back squat.

        In order to improve my strength I did heavy singles, doubles, and triples each week. This is not something you can substitute dumbbells for. My goal is to eventually squat over 600lbs, in other words very strengh focused.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's understandable and you're pretty much begging the question at that point. Your point of lifting barbell over dumbbell is because you made an arbitrary goal of lifting the barbell.

          On a side note I can't think of how to hip thrust with dumbbells. I feel like barbell is pretty much mandatory for that move

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            my goal is not to just lift a barbell, its to get stronger and the most efficient way to do so is to use barbell compound movements. You can get strong with purely dumbbell movements, but it will take more work and is more of a hassle, and you will eventually hit a limit in terms of how far you can progress. Either the limit will be what weights you have available (my gym goes up to 120lb dumbbells which I can grab one in each hand and it wont even be a warm up for me to squat with), or what movements you can perform. The distribution of load is obviously different with a barbell on your back vs dumbbells in your hands, and as you advance you need to train your weakest links and dial in your form. This is where using dumbbells can be especially advantageous. I think ideally you should use both barbell and dumbbells where appropriate. For example I might start off doing my heaviest overhead press with a barbell, and then after one or two sets with that (a set being anywhere from 1 to 5 reps) I might then go and do dumbbell overhead press or arnold press for 6-8 reps. This has worked well for me in the past and was what ultimately pushed me past the limits I had for a long time. Another thing that works for me is doing heavy barbell lifts one day, and the equivalent dumbbell lifts another day but with more volume.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You can get strong with purely dumbbell movements, but it will take more work and is more of a hassle
              I just hard disagree. It's much more of a hassle to load 600lb to a rack and warm up for it than to cycle through a set of dumbbells.

              I take it you're on PEDs as well since you value efficiency so highly?

  11. 1 month ago
    sage

    easier to kys with a barbell than dumbells
    just have to drop it on your neck whereas with dumbells you have to drop it straight on your head

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you have to be a literal retard to have a nice day with a barbell, though.

      People get hurt less with dumbbells because they use them for different things. Nobody ever threw their back out on lat raises.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dumbbells are for range of motion on pressing movements, and for isolateral work.

    Barbells are more stable, for higher force production.

    The movements they are well suited to have no overlap except the two presses.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      curls

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, barbell curls are just worse.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          close grip bar curls get more bicep longhead activation than any dumbbell curl does

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >close grip bar curls get more bicep longhead activation than any dumbbell curl does
            I remember browsing ems studies and the best ones were hammer curl, concentration curl and shoulder grip barbell curls, but I don't remember in which order

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    moron, I'm a 500+ lb. squatter, how exactly do you propose that I convince my gym to buy 250 lb. dumbbells, and how do you also propose I clean them into place and keep them there the entire time?
    I also deadlift 600, so I have similar issues there as well in convincing my gym to buy a pair of 300s for me.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get both so you can do supersets

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you do almost every single physique just with roids? Only one I guess you can't do is claiming natty but you can just like... lie.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    been getting some progress on dumbbell bench recently and its starting to get tiring just bringing the dumbbells up to my knees, especially so after a few sets when I'm worn out. Is there any easy way to set up dumbbells for benching?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > DYELs in this thread are genuinely worried about killing themselves with a barbell

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can but getting heavy dumbbells into position is pretty damn tough compared to getting a barbell of the rack.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dumbell press makes me feel like I'm getting shoulder impingement

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