What the fuck is going with meditation

Can someone tell me, what is meditation all about, and how to do it in the "correct" way? I always thought that it's some placebo "mindfullness" bullshit made by PUA and self-improvement gurus, since it became mainstream in the west. I practised it in the past but I still don't know how it's supposed to work, like are there any substitutes to it, or medidation is one of it's kind? If I turn on relaxing music while wearing headphones and imagine something, that counts as meditation? Why there are many types of meditation and all those gurus only target the mindfullness one, and talk about it? What about traditional meditation method in various religions, such as buddhism, is it better to practice that or maybe the new mainstream one? Am I the only person who can't understand the concept of it? I want to feel the benefits, and yet I am too moronic to even try it.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    For some reason browsing some Pornhub before you start meditating always helps get you into a deeper trans and you might even be able to astral project. Make sure you pick your favorite actress and watch for about 5 minutes, makes your meditation a lot better and soothed. Good luck.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do NOT do this. Your mind becomes like a sponge when you meditate. If the last thing you actively thing about before you meditate is being a coomer, you're going to cement this behaviour in your brain.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >For some reason browsing some Pornhub before you start meditating always helps get you into a deeper trans and you might even be able to astral project. Make sure you pick your favorite actress and watch for about 5 minutes, makes your meditation a lot better and soothed. Good luck.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don’t have to understand it before trying it, you can learn about it by just trying it.

    It also helps improve your executive functions.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you get it right your ego sort of "dissolves", your consciousness feels separate from your body. You can feel pleasure almost like youre on drugs.

    Keep reading, keep practicing. The cleaner you live (less drugs/shit food/porn/etc) the easier it will be to reach those transcendent blissful states

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will get better responses at >>>/x/.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can use it for whatever you want. 20yr old retail workers use it to as a cope for being a retail worker, Julius Evola used it to charge his Nazi Wizard sex powers presumably, and Buddhist monks use it to investigate the nature of reality and perception.

    You may enjoy this document: https://meditationbook.page/

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meditation is about quieting the mind so you can be more connected to and aware of your body and your subconscious. You want to distract your monkey brain that talks over everything and wants to pay attention to everything. Getting better at meditation means focusing on less and less so you can tune into the background processes better. When you get good enough at it and you connect to certain senses and processes in your mind you gain access to supped up versions of them. You also start gaining a deeper understanding of how your mind works and the positive and negative things that are affecting your life

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I personally use Eckhart Tolle's method, which perfectly strikes balance between woo-woo and practical down-to-earth stuff.
      It sorta what said, a practice of being an observer as opposed to being dragged along by the train of thoughts (especially negative ones).
      It'll genuinely surprise you how much of your thoughts are repeated, negative, impractical, and just outright garbage.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It'll genuinely surprise you how much of your thoughts are repeated, negative, impractical, and just outright garbage.
        Which I'm 100% sure comes form the endless stream of garbage we pay attention to (social media, TV, internet, IST). Meditating helped me understand why monks exist and why they like to frick off to the mountains away from everyone. Not that I want to, but made me think.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whenever I meditate consistently I start to slowly erode my sense of self and have sleep paralysis and lucid dreams constantly.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to meditate 30 minutes per day a few years ago.
    It makes it way easier to notice certain thought patterns you might not realise you have. "why do I think like this?" "why do I say this?" "where do these thoughts come from??", shit like that, which also eventually allows you to act and change those patterns for the better. At the end of the day its a tool to know your own mind better.
    It also helps stop intrusive thoughts before their erode your mind state (if that's your case). Shit like internal dialogues, endless songs, negative daydreams, etc.
    I only stopped meditating because of real life shit that took time away from me, but I want to return.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you split the time into parts or 30mins straight?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I did the stright 30 minutes. Of course not right off the bat, I started with 5 minutes per day and went slowly increasing the time. I couldn't go past the 30 minutes because by that time my body would scream at me to stop keeping whatever pose I had.
        Which is also the whole reason why (the original) Yoga exist as far as I understand, just to help you hold a given position to meditate for very long.
        One time I managed to get up to 50 minutes and by that point shit got a bit weird.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I did at least an hour straight at least two times a day for a few years. Sometimes I would meditate 6 hours straight because I lost sense of time and my surroundings. Shit got extremely weird.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So what was it for you?
            For me it was super bright flashing lights behind my eyelids and some times noise and smells. I'm not into /x/ stuff tho, as far as I understand that's just your mind trying to trick you into doing anything but sitting there doing "nothing". The mind needs being fed information permanently and being paid attention and it gets mad when you don't.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doing a long session does make sense to me
          What did you focus on? I find it hard to focus on breath because my breath rate goes very low when sitting still so most of the time there isn't really a sensation of breathing

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would either focus in my breath or some times turn off the lights, light a candle across the room and focus on the little fire. Whatever it works for you at the end of the day. Some people focus on some noise, or some body part.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks for the insights anon

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is literally just focusing on something boring for a period of time, usually your breath. It improves your focus and awareness. Stop listening to all of the spiritual bs, at its core, it's incredibly simple and concrete.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      By the way, all of the people talking about thoughts or anything related are not meditating properly. The whole fricking point is to remove thoughts as they appear and focus on something. Analysing your own thoughts counts as thinking too, and is NOT ehat meditation is about. That shit is called journaling. Meditation is entirely about removing thoughts and focusing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm one of the anons talking about "thoughts" and I was focusing more on the aspects of how can meditation help you during your daily life beyond the act itself. Yes I know what meditation is, but the fact that you do this exercise every day helps you notice certain thought patterns during the rest of the day. I didn't mean to imply you are supposed to pay attention to your thoughts WHILE meditating.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why there are many types of meditation and all those gurus only target the mindfullness one, and talk about it?
    Because the truth is that you have to create your own method of meditation of practice in order for it to be effective. Taking someone else's method doesn't work. Meditation is way too personal for that.
    Awareness building is what is it about essentially, that's probably all I can tell you so that it doesn't degenerate into fantasy-talk like in other posts.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how to do it in the "correct" way?
    There are different methods to achieve different results
    >any substitutes to it, or medidation is one of it's kind?
    Different forms of meditation, praying, talking to yourself nad any otehr form of intrsopection.

    In my expereince, meditation is the practice and repetition of a thought, mindset or emotion. By focusing on it, repeating it and practicing is how you can have a better control over yourself but like I said, there are different results for different methods; thinking everyday about how life is boring and how much you hate your job is a form of meditation, the practice and repetition of (negative) emotions and lines of thought, thinking deeply about a strategy yu have planned out for a game or an activity, or reharsing in your head a conversation had or will have is also a form of meditation (practice and repetition). In many cases such as the mindfullness method, meditation is a tool used in spescific ways, it can be implemented for acquiring a new mindset or overcoming trauma by learning to be calm. Its goal is to help the patient recognise their physiological reactions (being aware of your body and mind and how they react to different stimuli, like how we get paler and paralized when frightened because blood stops flowing to the skin in order to prevent exessive bleeding), with that information the patient should have more autonomy over themsleves.

    >I always thought that it's some placebo "mindfullness" bullshit
    It is a placebo but calling it bullshit is underestimating the power that minds has over body

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    the secret about meditation is that 99% of the shit you hear about doing it "correctly" is just for show, or to sell you something.

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