This,
although almost everyone here does to point they can't even comprehend power lifting, oly lifting, or training for any kind of sport.
I think you need at least one layer of self delusion to be a functional or happy person. Blackpillers ensure their own unhappiness because their disillusionment is repulsive to everyone who isn't.
Nothing's wrong with that. Lifting solely for girls is a bit weird because you're going to fall off once you start getting sex. I personally lift for my health, strength and girls. Also, lifting doesn't just make you visually attractive, it helps you tremendously in sex
If you have to lift for sex in the first place is it really worth it though? Women don’t try, every ounce of effort you put in is another ounce of effort more than she will, and you will never improve enough to get anything but a subpar girl (assuming you started incel). Personally I just want to larp with some hookers like patrick bateman, then I will probably go insane. I am literally just bateman maxxing.
The problem isn't the fact that you're lifting to impress girls. The problem is that you took up a hobby and invested countless hours of your personal time into brownnosing random strangers who didn't even know you existed until the moment you walked past them on the street. You're jestermaxxing to impress hypothetical girlfriends. You're a people-pleasing homosexual and that character trait predisposes you to becoming a gymcel. Much like quicksand, the harder you try to escape gymceldom, the harder it pulls you back in. Women can smell desperation and try-hard energy like bloodhounds, and that's a lesson you ought to learn from experience.
The personality fallacy occurs when someone thinks that your personality matters for anything when really only material things matter. People who invoke the personality fallacy show a base narcissism assuming their achievements are proof of internal worth.
It literally does. At least, if you're interested in building a good reputation, becoming high-status, and getting yourself a prestigious job. But we all know that the game was rigged from the start and all rich, popular gigachads were born with the divine spark that predestines them to greatness.
There are two sides to your personality, one that you developed based on your appearance and the resulting experience with others and the outside, which is how others perceive your personality, based on your appearance. I'm sure you already know about things like Halo Effect, Social Desirability Bias, Attribution Bias, etc.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, and I believe that having an internal personality that doesn't match your external personality causes a cognitive dissonance of sorts. It's kinda like two EM waves that are out of phase - when your ego and your persona are too different, destructive interference occurs and you become a fundamentally unhappy person. Anyone who's got lots of experience talking to people and being social knows that it's easy to spot someone who's putting on an act. So if you wanna hook up with trashy women, ignore what I said and cultivate your persona however you want. All they care about is what's on the outside.
>Women can smell desperation and try-hard energy like bloodhounds
Kek this is moronic, my friend is gymcelling for years, roiding, he's the epitome of tryharding and he gets so much pussy by being a fake natty, I saw his tinder account and he has hundreds of matches with zoomettes around 18-25.
Normies can barely tell the difference between a men's physique pro and a natty, as long as you are not Mr Olympia size they are too dumb, especially women.
Your friend fricks bar slags and working class women, neither of whom are known for their selectiveness. Call me when he bags 'n' tags a 10/10 from an upper class family.
t. dirty balkanite ape who won the genetic lottery and became a posh bongette's boytoy
>and you brag about this?
Well yeah, I don't do much else with my life besides lifting, living off my German Freifrau great-gramma's inheritance, and smoking weed.
rich girls have a fetish for fricking poor guys. she’s only doing it to piss off her dad
4 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, I know. Why do you think I'm a narcissistic weed-smoking ISTner? Identity issues and impostor syndrome, baby. But sexo = fun, so idc.
4 months ago
Anonymous
at least you are honest with yourself, anon. that’s more than most of us can say
4 months ago
Anonymous
And it's people like you that force me to re-evaluate myself every once in a while. The Faustian curse is real, and everything-maxxing will grant you everything you asked for. The price you pay is your soul.
>Your friend fricks bar slags and working class women, neither of whom are known for their selectiveness. Call me when he bags 'n' tags a 10/10 from an upper class family.
homie he's fricking prime pussy, some of those girls are still in school, meanwhile I'm a sexless natty who only matches with fat girls despite me not being fat, id kill to get his life.
only the autists who got IST and are still ugly/autistic tell you not to lift for girls. >inb4 muh health
yeah just do cardio and weights 1-2x a week, moron. you only do bodybuilding routines because you either consciously or subconsciously want the body that women desire, or that you desire if you’re a homosexual.
the entirety of human biology and evolution revolves around attracting and mating with the opposite sex and therefore literally everything you do is just a means to an end of getting your dick wet.
This tbh. Most of IST try to cope themselves into saying they aren't lifting for women but deeply inside they know they are, if they only cared about meme health they would be just doing cardio, training way less than they do without autistic minmaxed bodybuilder routines and unhealthy bulking/cutting diets.
In general, we all model and present ourselves in a certain way, and usually this is done based on certain interests, and in some cases we also do it so that we become attractive to the part of women that has a preference for that type of man. Whether that's lifting or something else shouldn't matter.
It just doesn't make sense.
If you're lifting for the delusion that your oneitis will stop doing anal with her crackhead bf and become your tradwife once you get ripped enough; you'll get depressed when it doesn't work and either give up and get fat because now you've gotten used to eating for bulking, or you'll go full heart-broken gymcel villain who's afraid to talk to women mode.
If you're lifting to improve your success with women in general, unless you're really disgustingly obese or skinny fat there is guaranteed to be something else you should be working on that would be far more productive.
And truthfully, yoga or some kind of recreational cardio like hiking/biking/skiing will get you in with higher quality girls than lifting ever will.
>And truthfully, yoga or some kind of recreational cardio like hiking/biking/skiing will get you in with higher quality girls than lifting ever will.
Not if you're already fit. A small percentage of women have a strong preference for jacked guys, those are the ones I lift for and it works. I already had a great body to most women before I started lifting.
It's ineffective.
If you lift, do it for your health and for yourself.
If you want girls, work on yokkruur social skills, hygiene, get nice clothes and a good haircut, and just be "not fat"
>It's ineffective.
its pretty effective on tinder/bumble where the only metrics to be judged by is your appearance, and the social proximity attraction doesnt apply. And 90% of men are unfit
they don't care, and neither should you
external locus of self worth. you're skipping psyche day
This,
although almost everyone here does to point they can't even comprehend power lifting, oly lifting, or training for any kind of sport.
I think you need at least one layer of self delusion to be a functional or happy person. Blackpillers ensure their own unhappiness because their disillusionment is repulsive to everyone who isn't.
being ,,mentally ill'' doesnt mean you are deluded at all
Nothing's wrong with that. Lifting solely for girls is a bit weird because you're going to fall off once you start getting sex. I personally lift for my health, strength and girls. Also, lifting doesn't just make you visually attractive, it helps you tremendously in sex
>sees naked man
>draws colorful baby scribble
This is why we hate women
A ripped man looks good, a ripped woman looks terrible
First day on IST?
it doesnt work moron
Nothing, in fact it can be a part of lifting for yourself (and if it's not that's okay too)
Do you mean "why is it bad to lift in order to get a gf" or do you mean "why is it bad for the female of the human species to lift heavy thing"?
Nothing. This board is just full of angry virgins with zero sex drive and zero prospects.
If you have to lift for sex in the first place is it really worth it though? Women don’t try, every ounce of effort you put in is another ounce of effort more than she will, and you will never improve enough to get anything but a subpar girl (assuming you started incel). Personally I just want to larp with some hookers like patrick bateman, then I will probably go insane. I am literally just bateman maxxing.
The problem isn't the fact that you're lifting to impress girls. The problem is that you took up a hobby and invested countless hours of your personal time into brownnosing random strangers who didn't even know you existed until the moment you walked past them on the street. You're jestermaxxing to impress hypothetical girlfriends. You're a people-pleasing homosexual and that character trait predisposes you to becoming a gymcel. Much like quicksand, the harder you try to escape gymceldom, the harder it pulls you back in. Women can smell desperation and try-hard energy like bloodhounds, and that's a lesson you ought to learn from experience.
Personality fallacy.
The personality fallacy occurs when someone thinks that your personality matters for anything when really only material things matter. People who invoke the personality fallacy show a base narcissism assuming their achievements are proof of internal worth.
>false dichotomy fallacy
Your homework assignment is to point out where I said looks, genetics, social status, money, etc don't matter.
Personality doesn’t matter though and the only reason to think it does is to aggrandize yourself.
It literally does. At least, if you're interested in building a good reputation, becoming high-status, and getting yourself a prestigious job. But we all know that the game was rigged from the start and all rich, popular gigachads were born with the divine spark that predestines them to greatness.
There are two sides to your personality, one that you developed based on your appearance and the resulting experience with others and the outside, which is how others perceive your personality, based on your appearance. I'm sure you already know about things like Halo Effect, Social Desirability Bias, Attribution Bias, etc.
Yes, and I believe that having an internal personality that doesn't match your external personality causes a cognitive dissonance of sorts. It's kinda like two EM waves that are out of phase - when your ego and your persona are too different, destructive interference occurs and you become a fundamentally unhappy person. Anyone who's got lots of experience talking to people and being social knows that it's easy to spot someone who's putting on an act. So if you wanna hook up with trashy women, ignore what I said and cultivate your persona however you want. All they care about is what's on the outside.
>Women can smell desperation and try-hard energy like bloodhounds
Kek this is moronic, my friend is gymcelling for years, roiding, he's the epitome of tryharding and he gets so much pussy by being a fake natty, I saw his tinder account and he has hundreds of matches with zoomettes around 18-25.
Normies can barely tell the difference between a men's physique pro and a natty, as long as you are not Mr Olympia size they are too dumb, especially women.
Your friend fricks bar slags and working class women, neither of whom are known for their selectiveness. Call me when he bags 'n' tags a 10/10 from an upper class family.
t. dirty balkanite ape who won the genetic lottery and became a posh bongette's boytoy
>10/10
>in bongland
Whos gonna tell him?
>t. plumber fricking the bored housewife
and you brag about this?
>and you brag about this?
Well yeah, I don't do much else with my life besides lifting, living off my German Freifrau great-gramma's inheritance, and smoking weed.
rich girls have a fetish for fricking poor guys. she’s only doing it to piss off her dad
Oh, I know. Why do you think I'm a narcissistic weed-smoking ISTner? Identity issues and impostor syndrome, baby. But sexo = fun, so idc.
at least you are honest with yourself, anon. that’s more than most of us can say
And it's people like you that force me to re-evaluate myself every once in a while. The Faustian curse is real, and everything-maxxing will grant you everything you asked for. The price you pay is your soul.
>Your friend fricks bar slags and working class women, neither of whom are known for their selectiveness. Call me when he bags 'n' tags a 10/10 from an upper class family.
homie he's fricking prime pussy, some of those girls are still in school, meanwhile I'm a sexless natty who only matches with fat girls despite me not being fat, id kill to get his life.
>id kill to get his life.
So have a nice day slowly with roids and start banging teenage pussy
Well that's what I'm planning to do, he has been doing roids for roughly 7 years now and looks healthier than me.
only the autists who got IST and are still ugly/autistic tell you not to lift for girls.
>inb4 muh health
yeah just do cardio and weights 1-2x a week, moron. you only do bodybuilding routines because you either consciously or subconsciously want the body that women desire, or that you desire if you’re a homosexual.
the entirety of human biology and evolution revolves around attracting and mating with the opposite sex and therefore literally everything you do is just a means to an end of getting your dick wet.
don’t @ me
/thread
This tbh. Most of IST try to cope themselves into saying they aren't lifting for women but deeply inside they know they are, if they only cared about meme health they would be just doing cardio, training way less than they do without autistic minmaxed bodybuilder routines and unhealthy bulking/cutting diets.
In general, we all model and present ourselves in a certain way, and usually this is done based on certain interests, and in some cases we also do it so that we become attractive to the part of women that has a preference for that type of man. Whether that's lifting or something else shouldn't matter.
It just doesn't make sense.
If you're lifting for the delusion that your oneitis will stop doing anal with her crackhead bf and become your tradwife once you get ripped enough; you'll get depressed when it doesn't work and either give up and get fat because now you've gotten used to eating for bulking, or you'll go full heart-broken gymcel villain who's afraid to talk to women mode.
If you're lifting to improve your success with women in general, unless you're really disgustingly obese or skinny fat there is guaranteed to be something else you should be working on that would be far more productive.
And truthfully, yoga or some kind of recreational cardio like hiking/biking/skiing will get you in with higher quality girls than lifting ever will.
>And truthfully, yoga or some kind of recreational cardio like hiking/biking/skiing will get you in with higher quality girls than lifting ever will.
Not if you're already fit. A small percentage of women have a strong preference for jacked guys, those are the ones I lift for and it works. I already had a great body to most women before I started lifting.
I lift for women but I’m 5’6 so I’m still a sexless Incel and all of my friends abandoned me anyways
it makes other men jealous
It's ineffective.
If you lift, do it for your health and for yourself.
If you want girls, work on yokkruur social skills, hygiene, get nice clothes and a good haircut, and just be "not fat"
>It's ineffective.
its pretty effective on tinder/bumble where the only metrics to be judged by is your appearance, and the social proximity attraction doesnt apply. And 90% of men are unfit
You shouldn't even need to do it, for one.
For two, it often doesn't even work. Just look at the gymcel epidemic on IST.