https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/comments/t0ma0i/6_weeks_postop_djs_for_open_bite/
Women are ascending with jaw surgery while coping redpillers here gaslight you about how muh face doesn't matter bro
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She looked fine before.
Don't go mutilating yourself, it is prideful and wrong overall. It is a direct insult towards God.
fine before, beautiful after
~~*Who*~~ could be behind this post?
Wtf are you taking about dumb moron
Anon's probably alluding to israelite noses, white larps when it suits them.
like a troony before, like an almost passing troony after. Pretty sure some of it has to do with discovering hair care and makeup tho.
My facial and upper body proportions are already "heroic"....But I'll fix my femurs because my ex-life fricked them up.
>It is a direct insult towards God.
First of all, not all are believers. However, I'm a hardcore one, and I know God didn't make me the way I am.
I have insulted his "design", and I fix what I've wronged.
If a man looked like her "before" he'd be an incel
Post a pic and I'll judge it honestly
>Post a pic and I'll judge it honestly
I don't post pictures of myself, and never anywhere on IST.
My irl social circle is enough.
Circumcision is not?
>She looked fine before.
>Don't go mutilating yourself
Based.
>it is prideful and wrong overall. It is a direct insult towards God.
Shut the frick up, homosexual.
Replace God with Truth and you have the same God.
based
troony atheist israelites seething
yup. find god in your hearts, brothers. we both know you will need to be forgiven when the time comes
ill do it after the surgery tho
christcucks literally cannot stop making everything about themselves and their POV. Like women.
it's not rape if the bugger was asking for it
he was coming on to me, I swear
look at what he was wearing, officer
theyre brainwashed shabbos goyim in a cult that worships a dead israelite
Lmao gaythiests seething
>https://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/orsp_shakeshaft_spring03.pdf
OH NO NO NO NO SCIENCE-SISTERS, NOT LIKE THIS!
this graph is good, but even per capita risks for the students are
> catholic 1/8000
> public is about 1/2000
and how many of those school employees are catholic/christian/religious?
Almost none. Very secular environment.
Even w Catholic priests, the majority of assaults were post-pubescent boys.
This is why the Catholic church tries to filter gays from priesthood. Its gays that are causing the problem for the church, not really MAPs.
So prolly just more gays in the schooling system = more assaults.
They're called pedophiles you fricking pedophile
clearly you live in a flyover walmart trash city
>It is a direct insult towards God.
I'll believe it if God says it, not just some human
lol
In fairness to Jesus even he realized that was kind of fricked and the New Testament tells Christians not to get circumcised, Amerigolems are just protestant larpers that don't read the bible.
That's fake news and a con job.
There's no dna left behind of Jesus that isn't fabricated
Turbobased.
You know it's summer when bait like this actually gets people going.
There is no god, this is just a waste of money for the insecure.
>She looked fine before.
>Don't go mutilating yourself,
She literally had an open bite and fixed it, her jaw was literally deformed before.
yeah don't insult yhwh's perfect design and get surgery bro
>Beauty is an insult to God
So this is the power of christcuck theology... I kneel...
>Beauty is an insult to God
It is if it's fake. I don't want to breed a cute looking b***h and have the spawn looking like a goblin. Frick outta here with that snakey bullshit.
> It is a direct insult towards God.
What a surprise, Black person incel christcuck homosexual doesn't want people to improve themselves. have a nice day, you shit stain.
How many buzzwords can you fit in a sentence homie u mad asl
based and true
>Women are now decieving men into inferior genetics
I hate the Antichrist
god you c**ts are miserable and moronic. enjoy living a life devoid of love
Enjoy having children with weak chins
I hate the Antichrist and also love my wife
>mouth breathing is genetics
>dental occlusions, an entirely modern phenomenon literally unobserved in any historically preserved skeletal remains, is genetics
nah homie you moronic as frick
>sensitivity to external factors causing dental occlusions are not genetic
>eating goy slop and leading a sedentary
life that causes sensitivity to external factors is genetic
you not being able to quit IST has a genetic factor too
true, without soft food we'd all have jaws like Robert Z'Dar, and without books, tvs and smartphones no one would need glasses.
>now
lmao females have been doing this since before the first homosexual sapiens
We now live in the age of photography. Just ask her if the has a family album or something and if she looked hot even as a child you knock her up
>looked hot even as a child
based and truthpilled
Women carry most of the inferior genetics because men will look past a weak chin or midget height cuz muh dick.
women ARE the inferior genetics
You're late to the party pal. Boob jobs, ass jobs and fillers everywhere bro
so they too can get passed around by all the hawt duudes
She also got a nose job.
No that's actually a common misconception with jaw surgery patients. Her maxilla was pushed forward, causing her nose to upturn slightly. It happened to me too.
Yeah no. The bridge of her nose is completely different.
You're moronic, that's just what a LeFort 1 does. If you browsed that sub for a bit you'd see it happens to everyone that gets a significant maxillary advancement.
these photos are unreal. frick.
is that picture to prove anything? cause the noses there look exacty the same
i already have a chin on the right but my face is VERY narrow, is there a surgery for this ? can it make my skull bigger /wider ?
Might be worth it bros
Definitely worth it.
Habsburg mode.
trollface if he real
Lol this is too much
That's his before
based charles of spain maxxer
Looks moronic
I had jaw surgery for my massive underbite and naturally crooked jaw.
Hope that isn't his results
i can already see which surgeon did this
there is a guy called coeancig who crocodilemaxxes his patients because of his belief that the face has to be in a completely vertical "coeancig" line
he is regarded as insane by most plastic surgeons but he keeps on getting clients
the surgeon is right, he just doesn't explain to the patients that they lack forward growth anyway and will look like they have an overbite
i increased his mid face growth and he look much better
that might explain this dude
dunno, that chin is fairly normal, I would say it's pretty perfect. If you look the chin is not quite vertical (ie. is IDEAL despite what incel boards will tell you). I can almost feel that plastic surgeon panicking and sweating at you claiming this was his work and wishing he could change the chin.
>(me)
To be clear I am not that other anon you replied to. Thought I'd just barge into your conversation.
>crocodilemaxxes
Thanks for the kek anon
ayyyyy
Surgery is dangerous, costly, uses up a lot of time and rarely improves anyone's look.
What's more you're not you when you come out of it. You don't look like that. Faces contain a biological meaning. If your chin didn't grow at all, then you likely had some developmental problem. That's why very small sized chins usually aren't as good looking. There is a biological explanation for everything. Be honest about yourself and show (literally) your true face.
>If your chin didn't grow at all, then you likely had some developmental problem. That's why very small sized chins usually aren't as good looking. There is a biological explanation for everything. Be honest about yourself and show (literally) your true face.
ate too much shitty, easy to chew, sugary foods and didn't chew early as a child like you're supposed to. I blame my parents for that one.
There's another reason to fix overbite/underbite jaws as well which does make better aesthetically pleasing features and that's breathing.
Most of these no chin having people are mouth breathers. There are other important advantages to getting surgery.
>grew up eating soft food with two smoking parents in the house
It never began.
nah son its 2022 if i can fixed a fricked up jaw imma do it
stop repeating shit your mom told you
she's fat and lonely for a reason
ok ban make up and high heels then
Why is she wearing a heap of makeup, has just shampooed her hair and better clothing in the second one. I mean the other stuff I could get with but makeup? Her expression also looks different.
Halo effect in action lmfao. Her hair and clothes are exactly the same in both pics, you just think they look better in the after because her face looks better. This is what females believe when they tell incels "just shower and dress properly bro"
I don't know if this is a joke or what (I mean, who knows with lookism incels anymore) but that is literally the last thing I would have ever expected you to say.
>...makeup...
It's not makeup, it's glare.
>and clothes are exactly the same in both pics
Nope. She's wearing different clothes, but there is more glare on her after, but it doesn't matter. She doesn't only look better, I wouldn't even know her before is the same person as her after.
Her entire skin colour is different, whiter as with general makeup, acne is clearly a lot more concealed, bump under the eye hidden somehow (maybe she just got more sleep). That "glare" is the shine of her makeup tard, her moisturizer could have an spf in it as well which can make it very shiny.
>That "glare" is the shine of her makeup tard, her moisturizer could have an spf in it as well which can make it very shiny.
>She has makeup on her eyeballs, bro
Cope.
>Her expression also looks different.
yeah because the jaw surgery changed her face
use your eyes roastie
How much does this cost
Can I do it in Mexico?
30k without insurance
Don't let some third world doctor hack apart your face lmfao, US or Europe only.
Won't cost you much mostly in comparison with other "surgeries".
Only long-bone surgeries are expensive as frick.
I kind of prefer left, hard to tail with just a profile view though.
all she had to do was mew
>all she had to do was mew
When she was a toddler.
Now she'll date up and have hideous kids that she can't explain. Cosmetic surgery for genetic failings should be illegal.
I support eugenics programs even though it means I won't reproduce.
Eugenics is for psychopaths and pathetic losers. You’re clearly the latter.
nature loves eugenics
So? Doesn't mean we should condone it. Nature is unjust and cruel
Nature does not "love eugenics" moron, eugenics is an unnatural intervention decided by the arbitrary whims of a select group of people who get the idea that a chin "should" be like this or like that, usually based on a biological signalling system that has gone horribly wrong and is in no way reliable for discerning "good" from "bad".
You might be thinking of avoiding dysgenics, which most people agree with.
>which most people agree with.
Have you been in a hundred years coma?
Hi iq physically strong euros = good
Seething low iq brainlet = you
I can't read 12pt font past 4'' from my face without corrective lenses, that's about as unfit as you can get before being literally blind.
nobody cares bro shut the frick up
I'm just saying we'd probably be better off as a species without the blind, moronic, infertile, and otherwise physically malformed being born daily.
Can you imagine a future where no child is born with congenital defects? Sounds worth pursuing to me.
Why not take a short cut and go directly to only handsome people reproducing? Imagine everyone was a 10/10, and every other person aswell making everyone you meet a potential partner
>only handsome, high IQ, successful, physically fit reproducing
Yeah, that's called eugenics. People get really butthurt about it.
Heres something to consider not everyone can be "top tier" and having amazing genetics, kind of not the point of it all. Species are diverse, subscribing to some nutjob eugenics shit literally dilutes the very reason you'd want to do it, if everyone was smart and handsome no one would be.
Peak cope. It's about improving humanity. Not relative improvement, objective.
Humanity has been on a steady decline for more than 100 years.
Blacks and Asians multiplying like bugs.
Whites becoming obese and slowly dissapearing.
The best you can do is focus on yourself because unless you are a Black/chink or severly defomed white man you already top tier genetics.
Eugenics isn't about me. That doesn't even make much sense. Only humans in the future would really benefit. Also, I don't think I'd pass the bar for reproduction anyway. I'm smart and handsome but 5' 7".
the takes on this site never cease to amaze me
the one the left isn't caused by genetics moron
yeah it is, her genetics made her think mouth breathing was ok.
>amerimutt education
You know I'm right. Her entire family line is fricked and her kids will be mouth breathers too.
>amerimutt
>right about anything
not even once
>Epitome of American education
A simple thing like not getting breastfed is enough to grow up mouth breathing, regardless of genetics.
Welcome to medicine, and not your eugenic bullcrap.
>Eueueuegeenics!!
Yeah. Mock some more because that's your peak moron.
so mad
Says the one who resorts to mockery.
I'm not the mad one here, boyo.
post face
>Post fingerprint
Suck my dick, homosexual.
lol ok spaz
Keep your low effort means to make others get carried away within your age bracket, kid. Yours only paints you as a clown.
sugma
Imagine you get your 8/10 stacy and your children become ugly incels because shes operated lmao
Thats why I hope surgery stays as shitty as it currently is
A recessed jaw is lifestyle, not genetics. A jaw surgery like this is not "changing who you truly are", it's actually the opposite. It actually turns you in to the person you were genetically supposed to be.
She looked fine before....but I'm ngl the after shots are definitely an improvement
Me on the left
Jaw is everything. Your face is fine as it is bros, it's just your jaw is several millimeters from its ideal position
She also had a nose job and has lip and cheek filler in the after pics.
What if it gets botched?
that's so fricked... i genuinely feel bad for her
>chiseled chin chad smashes superb sinus stacy
>have autistic son who is far uglier than both parents
>every day, he looks at his parents and is reminded of how hideous and "unlucky" he is
>son gets blackpilled on IST then kills himself
Is vanity surgery really worth it?
Is this how Elliott Rodger was made?
God has abandoned us.
>have autistic son who is far uglier than both parents
>every day, he looks at his parents and is reminded of how hideous and "unlucky" he is
Lmao this happened to me no surgery involved, my mom was hot and my dad was a Tom cruise tier facially handsome manlet and I got the worst of everything
Might be surgery fixes shit luck from an otherwise decent gene pool but fricked if I'm doing it
I don't have an open bite. I'm all for reclaiming my facial aesthetics with surgery but how do I know what I need?
>women are falling for incel looksmaxxing bullshit
what the frick is wrong with the world in 2022
Women are the progenitors of incel looksmaxxing and have been for thousands of years.
what is wrong with you to call the truth bullshit. do you not think being facially attractive changes your life?
Cosmetic surgery has nothing to fitness and you have mental condition.
>Le fort
>Cosmetic surgery
from the front it doesn't make much difference
from 6 to 7 at most
4 to 5 at most
real life isn't a selfie cam though. bimax dramatically improves your irl appearance for those that benefit from it. 3d is all that matters
You blind homie
Right makes me wanna stuff my balls in her mouth while she's on her knees then throw her down and mating press her anally with my hands around her neck
left is a troony
she also got other work done
Looks more masculine on the left
Brb open bite maxing
The left looks motherly, someone I would trust to raise my children. The right is just vain and boring. She had appeal like Shelly Duval in The Shining.
yea no you just have low self esteem
Accurate description. For me she looks bad in both pics though, there's something in her eyes I don't trust. So in conclusion: surgery didn't solve anything.
>9/10 profile
>5/10 front
WTFFFF
Kek why do you think every jaw surgery "ascension" excluding the completely deformed uses the side profile to demonstrate the improvement and leaves out the front
I don't find either pic attractive. If I were forced to choose, I'd choose left.
Can't fix dead eyes.
Looks like she just fixed her jaw.
She can't feel part of her face and they sliced through her nerves and sinuses
t. Had it too
more like 4 to 7
its like the dude who mewed and went from looking like a mouth breather side profile to. jensen ackles buuuut then you see his front and hes like an angry gerbil.
I looked cant fine the front view
that pic just shows a change in angle from left to right
Her front changed drastically bro. She went from horseface to a woman at least
She looks like a completely different person
I've never been against it and I technically needed jaw surgery but now at 35 years old I just don't feel like it's worth it anymore. I might get jaw fillers eventually and see if I like it.
The "before and after" are "night and day" on here. The black shirt looks way better, and the haircut is very much appreciated.
>Ascending
Christ you are one shallow, superficial simp.
imagine you wife a chick up and have kids and they all get some fricked up facial feature then your wife tells you they inherited it from her and she had a facial surgery. What would you do?
Ask anons on IST.
Get them all the surgery my wife got.
Wouldn't you be mad to find out your girl was actually ugly as frick?
Based. But i am the question asker and i am european. Betting the dude is middle eastern or some mutt shit with a inbred reading comprehension.
We where talking about genetic features that where inherited. The question asked is basically you got fooled in to wifing up some genetic trash and it wasn't revealed until after you had kids together. Wat do?
What would a woman do if she found out you was a manlet with leg extension surgery but only after getting manlet kids with you
This is also why manlets who wear shoe inserts shouldn't breed
Let's say there were other circumstances that lead to her having a shitty jaw, like overuse of pacifiers / bottle feeding, mouth breathing, some sort of teeth issues or not eating enough chewy things, so she could have had a good jaw but was unfortunate to develop a bad one, surely that won't get passed on to the kids? And even if it did, you could make sure all those things are taken care of so it won't happen to your kid to that extent.
>guy who lost his leg is gonna have a legless child
is this the power of amerimutt education
>this eurpooristani reading comprehension
Is this the power of 85 IQ?
>schizo ramble
mutt moment
Lol cope, seethe, dilate.
Most bad jaws aren't genetic, they're due to environment and upbringing. Just make sure your kid breathes through his nose, chews tough food, has a natural diet, and mews and he'll be fine. If there's still a problem sign him up for orthotropics.
i think girls with receding chin are still cute, idk why
why do they always have different hairstyle in after pic?
positive feedback loop. the more attractive you are the more you take care of yourself
did she get fake mole?
to hide scar or something?
I would be a 9/10 if I just got a fricking rhinoplasty
post face
this achievable natty?
yes it's called being a man
Surgery is the ultimate cope, live with what you have as long as you're not Ricky Berwick
Smaller movements benefit women more, women can get away with slight recession, men in general rate women higher than their objective attractiveness.
These 3 things combined means you can never trust a female surgery ascension.
All these no name Doctors ascend women because it's fricking easy, not because they're maestros.
If you're a man you still have like 10 options for aesthetics and most of those are in Europe.
I don't want a glass jaw, better to just accept your imperfections
Does the jaw become more fragile after surgery?
I've read it becomes even stronger because bone that grows back is stronger by nature
That's wolff's law and it doesn't apply when you pull 2 pieces of bone 15mm away from each other with only plates holding them together for the first 4 months
I broke my arm multiple times and I feel its weaker and bumpy
The bone obviously,the arm looks normal LMAO muscle is fine
Don’t need it because I was never a mouth breather
Why are there so many women on a jaw surgery subreddit? I've only ever heard of guys caring about gigachad jaw lines
Basically every woman who gets jaw surgery "ascends" because even the baby movements a b***hass local doctor is scared of going beyond translate to alfaro-tier forward growth on a woman's skull vs a man's.
I'm black so my jaw phenotype is maxed out already lol.
All frauders should be killed.
>redpillers here gaslight you about how muh face doesn't matter bro
what
The front pic is fricking hilarious to me.
Just look at her dumb fish eyes
No way thats the same girl. She looked like a 10 from the side.
Welcome to jaw surgery "ascensions" kek
this is the opposite of fitness, frick off
>jaw surgery
>when mewing exists
if you know you know
You thinking mewing grew him a brow and nose?
The changes between those images are from puberty
mewing + puberty
if pushes and rotates the maxilla which affects the nose and brow aswell
There is no conclusive, scientific proof mewing works.
yet
you can wait 5-10 or even 20 years for a scientific proof and regret for not doing it earlier.
Or you can try for a year or two and see for your self.
Also there is scientific proof mouthbreeding causes face deformation or adenoid face.
I discovered "mewing" accidently.
>move to live alone in another country
>dad helps me move
>stays one night in my new apartment.
>says "the air is too fricking dry" "Anon, please keep the window open before you choke yourself"
>I keep the window open
>less nasial congestion
>less mouth breathing
ffw 3 years
>better jawline.
ffw 3 more years
>There is no conclusive, scientific proof mewing works.
ok homosexual you do you
>my little anegdote is scientific proof
you're a moron
>my little anecdote is scientific proof but actual scientific proof isn't scientific proof and I can just keep moving goalposts
ftfy Dude's a moron.
Just look up the subreddit. Plenty of people in their early to mid 20s getting results. One dude in his 30s also got some solid results.
>”hey bro I did this thing and this is what happened for me”
>REEEEEEEE THAT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING WHERE ARE YOUR HECCIN PEER REVIEWED DOUBLE BLIND RESEARCH STUDIES AND SOURCES!?!?!?!!!?
Gee I wonder who to trust
>you can wait 5-10 or even 20 years for a scientific proof
There are scientific studies starting right now?
wow it just happens that all mewing “progress” photos are during puberty! how wacky! it really works!
Yes, turns out that it's easy to impact growth when you are still growing and your craniofacial sutures have yet to fully close.
I'm sure prepubescent mouth breathers would get warrior skulls for no reason at all. We all know that minor pressure against bones never impacts their form, which is why braces never work and motor neuron disease has no impact on skeletal shape at all.
even mike mew in one of his earlier lectures told an audience member that adulthood was probably too late
lets say you do dont mew as an adult, what do you do instead? breath like a dog? with your fricking mouth opened?lmao
mewing is natural
God I want to fix my recessed jaw so fricking bad, words cannot describe. I hate that shit so much
doesn't work, did it from 19 to 23, absolutely no changes
So what fricking surgeries do I get I look like such a subhuman from the side
Christ is King
every nihilistic boomer in this thread will bend their knee
Not much of a difference here
not sure if srs? she literally looks deformed on the left. yeah she ain't a model on the right but at least she looks healthy and has an even face.
genuine question
is it dangerous to get cosmetic jaw surgery if you do boxing/other martial arts? like if you got hit in the face would that shit just break in half
They slice your sinuses and nerves.
I never had allergies before but now I do.
Part of my face is number forever.
I only got it for medical (Ortho) reasons including an underbite.
It's up to you but I'd say no, even though it worked out for me (Ortho reasons)
Can I look like the right femboy with surgery?
Her side project is better but the rest is still shit
She does look prettier in the after tbh. Men really are visual creatures
Brutal reality pill for her if she gets way more male attention after the surgery
A girl I work with had a recessive jaw and always thought I was looking at her out of attraction when it was out of disgust for her and her spawn. Weak jaws are the equivalent of man boobs
I'm lucky enough to get maxillofacial surgery in the next year. lefort 1 UJS ask me anything
ortognatic surgery? I was told i needed it but instead just got a chin implant. I wouldnt be able to live 2 weeks with my jaw wired shut, i'd literally die. But every now and then I think I should do it. Im already old af (36 yo) so thats why i think its not even worth at this point, plus the recovery hell and chance of dying.
I don't give a shit. I'm strictly attracted to younger girls. The one on the right is younger. So I'm only attracted to her. Frick you, homosexualS.
1. have a nice day
2. the left looks much younger. you are moronic
At some point. I want chin and cheekbone implants plus rhinoplasty.