When doing 3x5 on squats. If you fail the last rep of the 5th set, can you still go up 5lbs next session? I failed the last rep, but after a minute of rep, I busted it out as a single to complete the 15 total reps. Am I allowed to go up in weight next session or do I have to repeat the weight I'm at since technically I failed the last rep (even if I salvaged it)
I'm at my max weight btw which is 175lbs 3x5. I'm 5'9 164lbs and climbing. Up 22lbs since May.
I give you my permission
Minute of rest*
Do whatever you want. If 5 reps is that important you can repeat. You can lower reps you can do fewer sets and keep adding. No one cares
just go up to 185 so it looks like you got some meat on the bar. I promise you 180 weighs the same as 185, and I'm a physicist
I'd add the weight and do however many sets it takes to get 15 reps. But I'm skinny and weak so I really don't know what to do
i had your mentality when i was skinny
you’re going to make it absolutely
Thanks friend
yw
My recommendation is to park the weight and hit the sets. And from then on even park the weight if form becomes dogshit. But that isn't the mantra of ripeshits, so adding 5lbs and folding the frick over is what is going to happen in 2 days.
>t. double progressed +10kg jumps at a time this way in 4-8 rep ranges to 110kg and counting high bar ATG in the span of 8 months
>never fail a rep, reracked after any ugly reps
is 3x5 really enough? Shouldn't you be doing 5x5?
No you should be doing 10x5
>volumetard
This. 3x5 is already overkill, if you do any more than 1-2 sets of 5 reps per muscle group per week you're just spinning your wheels on junk volume and risking injury/overtraining for no reason
t. powershitter
Guys I was mocking the other anon holy frick kek
>junk volume
99.99% of people are undertraining and have absolutely nothing to worry about junk volume
if you spend less than 10 hours a week in the gym, forget about "junk volume" right now and lift some more weights
this
what if you dont reach " failure or change in pace " till the last rep of the last set ? Using same weight for each set
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but no 2 reps in tank for last set but actual slowed pace . Also when cycling back down in 2nd cycle, in say a 12 week cycle pattern. Should first 5 or so weeks at lower weight stay well clear of failure ?
thats how I am doing it but am I wasting 5 weeks at the lower weights ? Should I add sets and reps during the lower weight portion of the new cycle to get close to failure or 2 in the bank on last set when starting new cycles ?
By cycling I mean PERIODIZATION
dropping down in weight to a little above the start of the previous cycle then adding weight
The original Starting Strength is 3x5, 5x5 is StrongLifts which is a ripoff and a worse program 45 reps in total over a week for squatting is more than enough especially for beginners
Up to what point?
Depends on a lot of stuff. I squat x2 a week (twice every 8th day actually), typically 4 working sets with some blend of ramping and sets across, in 3-6 rep range. So my total working set reps over a week is more in the range of 30-40. That still gives me brutal DOMS which tend to recover just in time for the next session, and I am still making gains. When that stops, I will change something, be it volume and/or frequency.
I am this poster
>3x5
>5th set
?
>5x5
if you can finish 5x5 that means the first sets were useless
What a shit take. Anytime under the bar isnt useless if youre at high enough weight. If he did 5x5 but missed the last rep of the 5th set, he still got almost all of the value out of it. Especially if he toughed it out and got back under it to complete that last rep.
autist
I do 5x5 or 3x5 depending on how I feel. I only train quads once a week with one squat session and my quads are probably my most muscular group. Genes vary though
And you're a weak dyel no kidding
Post stats
>3x5
>Reps x Sets
I disregarded everything you said in this post because you're literally a Black person
Didn't catch that what a filthy Blacks
I hate op
The program isnt 5x3 you wienersucking homosexual
You ALWAYS list sets first, moron zoomer. Now sit down, and be humble.
NTA but the convention is
>unspecified weight, or percentage; sets x reps
e.g 3x5 @ 80%
>specific weight; reps x sets
100kg x 5 x 3
weight; reps x sets
>100kg x 5 x 3
yeah, nah. no one does this
that is how I log my stuff
You log wrong
we read from left to right in civilized countries, stating the weight first makes the most sense
It doesn't
It makes more sense to know what you're doing before how much weight
You wouldn't say I'm loading 3000 pieces and then say into the truck
You would say we are going to load the truck with 3000 pieces
I would say that I am loading 3000 pieces into the truck
I think this is a cultural and grammatical issue, I am Slavic
It's sets reps dummy. For example
5x5
>5 sets of 5 reps
or as you're saying
>5 reps of 5 sets
it doesn't make sense
I've never heard of this
It's sets x reps x weight
Just do 3x3 OP and that way you'll never get moronic again and can keep adding
i count that as a failed set, even though you did the 15 reps. personally, i would try again next lift session, if you complete 3x5 go up in weight. and you need to eat more you skinny homosexual moron. don’t bother replying with some lame excuse about how you can’t eat enough, either do or don’t even try, be a bicyclist instead.
Im up like 23lbs already in bodyweight, I am gaining weight