When doing starting strength, I am so exhausted by the time i finish my last set that I have to extra energy for any upper body things like curls and so on. Do I come in on my off day to do arms? I was told id look moronic if I dont do any bicep curls or tricep things
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>i can only do one part but not the other
so do the other part every other day instead of the one part until you can do both you fricking idiot. do you guys have no logical reasoning whatsoever?
But curls isnt part of the program is what im saying, that is extra work i wanted to do at the end but im so tired by the time my work sets are done
>I'm doing SS but starting from week 2 I made some modifications to the program based on what I was told by some random homosexual
Just do the program as written, you c**t. Get your big lifts to anything resembling respectable numbers, and THEN start wondering whether your arms look good with your purse.
fair enough ty
dont listen to that homosexual, do your isolations so you dont become a skinnyfat fridge
Sorry if I was harsh Anon, but sticking to the program really is the best way. I understand the temptation of adding a bunch of "vanity" exercises but it will only frick with your recovery, and you want to milk that newbie linear progression for as long as humanly possible. Rest days are as much a part of the program as the workout days.
And don't worry about your arms, they get plenty of work with pressing, DL-ing, chin-ups and rows. Once your NLP runs out, then you can move to some bodybuilding-type routine if you want and you'll be better off than 99.9% of curlbros out there.
Good luck.
>DL-ing, chin-ups and rows
LOL
Deadlifting and rows don't do anything for your arms, and chin ups dont target the biceps as much as a proper isolation
why are you telling this young man to become another SS victim? do you feel any shame doing this?
rows and chin ups arent even in the fricking ss routine, you dumb homosexual
still moronic to make those claims
Read the book. Everyone should add chins as an additional exercise and he calls rows an acceptable/good addition as well.
ripplebreasts literally thinks 12 inch arms are ideal and that an ez bar is useless for curls
why anyone would listen to that moron (or the moron in this thread who thinks deadlifts work your biceps LMAO) is beyond me
>do beginners powerlifting program meant for aspiring powerlifters to get a good base level of strength
>cry that you don't have developed vanity muscles that are useless for powerlifting after 6 months
>don't even know enough about the program to realize that chins are actually part of it
Interesting insight anon, thanks.
You're going to have shit physique either way. Might as well go with the physique that gives you the most and most efficient strength gains.
>>do beginners powerlifting program meant for aspiring powerlifters to get a good base level of strength
75%+ of people doing SS don't care about being powershitters
>vanity muscles
lol
post body i bet you look like a fat turd
>Deadlifting and rows don't do anything for your arms
Yes they do. It's impossible to do either without involving the biceps. Which is why heavy-ass DL is how most biceps tears happen, BTW.
>and chin ups dont target the biceps as much as a proper isolation
3 sets of 5 weighted, full-ROM chins at 5-6RM weight will do more for your biceps (and back, and core) than a zillion sets of billion reps of dumbbell curls, especially if you're a newbie.
>rows and chin ups arent even in the fricking ss routine
Yes they are. Read the book, homosexual.
>that bicep pump after a heavy dl session
Dumbass
people tear their biceps doing deadlifts because they are using a supinated grip
chin-ups will never do more for your arms than isolations
frick me dude you are stupid
no, bicep tears happen when you use alternative grips you dumb mother fricker.
>3 sets of 5 weighted, full-ROM chins at 5-6RM weight will do more for your biceps (and back, and core) than a zillion sets of billion reps of dumbbell curls, especially if you're a newbie.
I need to buy a belt for this then right? I dont own one.
If your goal is to bring your squat to some arbitrary number you can brag about, then yes. If your goal is to make your frail little body strong, sturdy and stable (whether you're a ISTgay or a 60 y.o. woman) then the squat is a tool to that end that happens to be more effective than other tools. The actual number you end up with at the end of your linear progression is irrelevant. And getting there faster is better than getting there slower.
was meant for
how do you know when linear progression is over?
have a preworkout and carbs
Based SS enjoyer. You can do arm work after your SS adventure. Also bench en OHP already builds good triceps.
OHP and Bench only work one head of the tricep well, you still need to work the other two heads with stuff like push downs and lying extensions
Do 3 sets of bicep curls on day 1, 3 sets of lateral raises on day 2, 3 sets of tricep ext on day 3. Thats it.
so biceps 1 day? thats it??
As a beginner, yes.
You can do SS but please for the love of God dont fall for the low bar squat meme unless you like having a huge butt and tiny legs.
Is front squat ok
Yes
You should have more than enough energy for 3 sets of bicep curls and 3 sets of skullcrushers twice a week. Maybe a cardio issue.
I am a weakling, so I am pr'ing every single time i'm in the gym on squats and deadlifts. I feel so exhausted by the time i'm done that I'm ready to go home. I can do curls and so on, but I usually just choose not to
Have a snack or some caffeine mid workout I promise it's mental fatigue not muscle fatigue re: your arms. Doing arm work will help with your bench development anyways (I don't like how SS programs bench but it's fine for completely untrained ppl)
that "it's just an accessory" bullshit mentality is going to make you look like shit long term
if you want to actually look like you lift weights do your isolations. seriously
thnx for the advice
Do something for rear delts too. A high facepull or something else can look up rear delt exercises and program whatever you feel best. Lighter weight more reps for these. 12+ a set. 8-10 for biceps. 8-12 for triceps.
>I'm too tired
Do them anyway or ngmi
The key is to ignore the part where rip tells you to squat 3 times a week and cut squats out of your deadlift day, and add more volume on your upper body lifts.
>vanity muscles
As if getting your squat up to 3 plates as fast as humanly possible isn't just as much if not even more of a vanity thing then getting your "vanity muscle" bigger
can you explain? Also, how does putting 5 pounds on every session get you a high squat as fast as possible? Would take a year to get a decent squat at 5 pounds, 3 times a week.
You get used to it. Imo chinups are enough for biceps.
I've just started browsing IST again for the first time in over a decade and I genuinely cannot fricking believe the SS meme is still going to this day. I suppose destroying your lower back in your formative years is just a right of passage for thousands of anons by now, like an honest to god tradition. This is genuinely the most destructive meme to ever come out of IST but I applaud you autists for keeping it going so long
It isnt a meme you fricking homosexual. It is the most efficient way to build strength for a natural lifter that exists. Nobody said it will make you look like a bodybuilder, you fat pig. Quit spreading misinformation.
Who cares about strenght, Black person
It's about looking good
No wonder youve been away for 10 years hahaha fricking ugly fat b***h. Shouldnt you be posting in a troony thread?
fricking newfriends and their troony spam. Trannies and reddits are living in your head 24/7. All you fricking think about
RITE
Das rite
Don't do 3x5, just do 1x5 and take more than 1 day off.
how does that help lol wtf? do less?
ignore him
You need better conditioning. SS should not be killing you that bad.
5x5 is meme
do 3x5
ss is 3x5 you dumb frick
From what I gather as a newbie SS just has an advertising problem of being an explicitly powerlifting program that gets recommended to people who are just interested in big muscles
>gets recommended to people who are just interested in big muscles
...what? The website goes into great detail on why it's the best way to get big muscles period. I'm a newb too, if you've got a better idea let's hear it.
I recommend switching to the Naturally Enhanced program by AlphaDestiny outalpha.com
Do the arm shit *before* the squats, moron.