Which one is healthier? Which one do women prefer? >inb4 caring what women think. Yes. I want sex.

Which one is healthier?
Which one do women prefer?

>inb4 caring what women think
Yes. I want sex.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I want sex
    Height > face > frame

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Face > Confidence > Height

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Face > Confidence > Height

      height>>>>>>face>>>>>

      [...]

      >>eyes>money>confidence

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >women
    mid between 8 and 15 - 15 needs a bit more muscle to look hot, 8 looks a bit too icky
    but as long as you're physically acceptable (including not shorter than her), confidence and how you carry yourself has a much bigger weight
    >healthier
    12-15 range probably

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      spbp

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never go below 10%, never go above 15%. For most adult men, that means never bulking for more than 3-4 months before a cut.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      False. I agree on never go above 15% but that doesnt mean 3-4 months. You can gain 1-3kg of lean muscle mass in a year. 10% to 15% is a lot more than 3kg. Even if you are gaining the upper limit or double that, you can easily bulk for an entire year. Thats why so many people look so shit, they spend 50% of the time in the gym on a deficit. You dont benefit any more from a 500kcal surplus let alone +1000kcal surplus than you do from 200kcal surplus. Or 100 for that matter. But as the margins get smaller it gets harder to accurately stay within that arbitrary range.

      Point is that instead of gaining x weight in 3-4 months on a surplus, you could spend 12 months aka make 3-4x more gains gaining the x weight over that time and make 3-4x more lean muscle mass gains than you would in 3-4 months. And your cut would still be the same length in both cases.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What if I'm skinnyfat (ie fat) and building muscle? Do I just eat at maintenance or try to "bulk" and just lose the fat later?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    15% healthiest
    8% sexiest
    4% freakshow

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how come I still see some fat on 8%er

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because it's 8 percent not 0 moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >because it's 8 percent not 0 moron
        dont call me moron, moron

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The guy looks too fat for 15%. 8% is unrealistic for most guys and hard to maintain. From these pictures I’d say 8 in real life I’d say 12%. 12% is really lean but maintainable and you won’t have low energy or anything like that

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I want sex

    Literally 50 euros will get your dick sucked by a prettier girl than your best ever version/looks will get you.

    I'm not saying looks don't matter, but if your goal is just "I want sex" the best value will be prostitution

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Healthier - right
    Women prefer - middle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah middle is too lean for women, I'd say 8-9% is woman's extra, where they could take it or leave it. Ideal is probably 10-13% where you can see abs but not dick roots lean.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick 15% still looks fat?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guy on the right is 17% at best. That's not 15.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do you even reliably measure bf%?

    According to my shitty scale I have 4% bodyfat which is kinda unlikely since I'm still alive

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    women want right all day
    you should still got the gym and get muscular but physique is womens least important attribute

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most of us here suffer from body dysmorphia, don't forget that. What is dyel by IST standards is fit by normie standards.

    1 and 2 are simply freaks to the average person.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >4%
    impossible realistically
    >8%
    impossible to maintain natty
    >15%
    the ideal without drugs

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever is the tallest and has the most attractive face wins
    8-12% bodyfat is ideal for facial attractiveness so he wins unless he’s under 6 foot in which case nobody will ever truly love him

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I have a better idea, how about YOU FRICKING have a nice day moron

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    right isn't 15%. 15% should show some ab definition. I'd guess he's about 17-18% which is slim, but still covers any ab definition.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is what I do too. I eat a lot and offset it with more cardio. The best way to get an easy deficit is by walking: I walk 10 miles and thats around 900 calories. But anything helps because the more calories you take off the more calories you eat. While lifting I also blast the exercise bike hard to get like 100, 200, 300 or so more calories off

    Basically more food is more protein but you don't want to consume too many calories and get fat, so that means:
    > liftin 'eavy
    > eatn 'eavy
    > burnin 'eavy
    > simple as

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