Why are so many anons here offended by the fact that seed oils and refined sugar are bad for you?

Why are so many anons here offended by the fact that seed oils and refined sugar are bad for you? why do they want to cling onto these health destroyers?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sneed oils

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically because IST started using the term goyslop and now neurotic internet warriors think by supporting seed oils they’re fighting antisemitism and the far-right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Many such cases.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even feel like it's necessary to talk about all this garbage granularity, as if refined sugars and trans fats and sneed oils and soi crap are all separate problems. They're all just smaller aspects of the larger overall problem, which is eating unnatural processed goyfeed instead of real food.

    Everything is so much simpler and more elegant when you just remind yourself "HEY gay, EAT REAL FOOD" and keep it at that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP here and yeah youre totally right. Its a whole foods vs processed foods issue. i dont even like calling anything not whole food

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there is no more such thing as real food in our world

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are sneed oils only bad for you health or also your physique too? I don't care about my health, if sneed oils won't make me look worse than olive oils and butter, I think I can use it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If its bad for your health then long term its bad for your physique long

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why?
        >I-It's just le bad... okay?
        Give me a better excuse about how it affects your psysique other than other oils.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          inflammation and cancer will sap your energy and make your workouts less productive.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, that's it? I don't fucking care about cancer.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It makes you fat you monkey. It stays in your body much longer than saturated fats.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im not offended, youre just full of shit. post your nutrion degree to continue

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking you need a degree to understand literally anything

      yeah ill need to check with a mathematics harvard graduate on what 2+2 is.

      Tell me, why do you believe these things to be not unhealthy?

      >X is bad for you
      dose
      maketh
      the
      poison

      But its better to not take any poison at all!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Tell me, why do you believe these things to be not unhealthy?
        There's literally almost nothing in nutrition as uncontroversial as the fact that seed oils are healthy. It's one of the most well-supported facts there is.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          cool another christ killer giving the "LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS" speech

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You clearly dont understand the dangers of oxidisation and free radicals and how they distrupt the gut microbiome do ya. do a little research and come back, seed oils being healthy is proported because theyre cheap and easy to make and the sugar industry needed something to blame so they blamed saturated fats.
          Do the smallest fucking bit of research and youll see

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's been research. Decades of it. The evidence is clear: Seed oils are healthy. You're just throwing around buzz words.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              buzz words? those are important SCIENTIFIC terms and mechanism jesus christ. just admit you know literally nothing about nutrition and that youre just going off of the "heart healthy" sticker thats branded on seed oils.
              Research the things i mentioned or fuck off and keep poisoning yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A... anon, I have a master's degree in biochemistry, I know what the words mean. If you did, you'd realize that you fell for propaganda

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i love how youve not even tried to dispell what you think is such heresy. You should get a refund on that degree because you learnt fucking nothing, laughable that you think you do. PLEASE tell me how seed oils arent unhealthy, im waiting smart boy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I did tho

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you have said literally no science or even come close to mentioning anything

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon there is almost nothing in the field of nutrition that has as much evidence behind it as the health benefits of seed oils. Mentioning random buzz words won't change that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >repeating generic phrase with no understanding
                >assuming because something is agreed upon that its true
                I bet you think having your knees over toes is bad for your knees, science changes all the fucking time we learn stuff all the fucking time and a lot of the time we realise what was a "fact" is completely false and dangerous.

                yeah i know you dont know shit so ill stop arguing with you.
                Just do a LITTLE bit of research and youll see, cunt ;).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > we learn stuff all the fucking time and a lot of the time we realise what was a "fact" is completely false and dangerous.
                This is wrong, only people who aren't in science would think so. Our understanding evolves and fine tunes, but robust consensus isn't just overturned because some kid from france googled "free radicals".

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i literally gave an example like with the knees over toes and this isnt isolated.
                I can believe you dont realise how much of science is based on misinformation and caused by funding. Like the food pyramid which was based on bunk evidence purposefully misinterpreted.
                Youre such a fucking cuck i hope you die from seed oils

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon there is almost nothing in the field of nutrition that has as much evidence behind it as the health benefits of seed oils.
                Reminder to anyone reading this that claiming something is "the most studied" or whatever is a dishonest tactic. Here's an explanation as to why, in detail, with examples: https://youtu.be/D8JqoCgSJmU
                Don't trust these shills that claim the VOLUME of studies inherently means something is good or safe. They never talk about the QUALITY of those studies.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The FDA
                I'm not American Anon...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because only Americans and American institutions can engage in corrupt behavior and intentionally misleading claims to trick the population for the sake of profit and control. Right, got it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but
                >its propaganda to eat whole foods and cook with animal fats that literally every single fucking culture has used rather than some industrial waste processed oils
                Evidently school taught you nothing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but
                >its propaganda to eat whole foods and cook with animal fats that literally every single fucking culture has used rather than some industrial waste processed oils
                Evidently school taught you nothing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >oxidation of polyunsaturated fatty acids by reactive oxygen species doesn't create lipid peroxides like MDA and HNE and they're definitely not associated with practically every lifestyle disease
                'k.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >polyunsaturated fatty acids are important signaling molecules for detection and management of oxidative stress
                Why exactly anon, that's why you should make sure you're getting enough of them. A great source would be seed oils.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you realise other fat sources have polyunsaturated fatty acids in right and thats okay because theyre minmal amounts and arent the largest portion of the ratio. The fact youve oversighted this shows you know nothing, the fat ratios are so important.
                You only need small amounts of PUFAS to get this response and you get these from just eating normal fucking foods, you dont need to guzzle seed oils which are majority PUFAS holy fuck

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >this biological mechanism is why seed oils are bad!!!
                >okay actually this mechanism is beneficial but you don't need much so you don't need seed oils
                >because seed oils are bad
                Brilliant reasoning. PUFAs are healthy, getting more of them is great.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Overconsumption leads to oxidative stress and an imbalanced gut biome. You only need small amounts of PUFAS to get this ONE benefit and past that theyre unhealthy and you can get this healthy amount from actual food.
                So please tell me WHY THE FUCK would you intentionally have so much more. Youre fucking yourself over you stubborn twat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                PUFAs have myriads of functions. Why would overconsumption be bad? They get used for vital cellular functions, get stored inertly in adipocytes, or metabolized for energy.

                i literally gave an example like with the knees over toes and this isnt isolated.
                I can believe you dont realise how much of science is based on misinformation and caused by funding. Like the food pyramid which was based on bunk evidence purposefully misinterpreted.
                Youre such a fucking cuck i hope you die from seed oils

                Woah you're mad. I don't know which robust scientific consensus about "knees over toes" you are referring to though, sorry buddy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still dodging the actual points
                keep thinking youre smart while youre killing yourself you fucking idiot, i hope this interaction has reinforced your view and made you even more stubborn so you get what you deserve and die a slow death and live a failed life with a poor functioning body you idiot, educate yourself

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >polyunsaturated fatty acids are important signaling molecules for detection and management of oxidative stress
                Why exactly anon, that's why you should make sure you're getting enough of them. A great source would be seed oils.

                YOU FUCKING garden gnome

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                think I'll keep to my physiological 3%, you can drink the HNE though and enjoy the cancer

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So then fast food ia healthy right? Its all they use. Fast food french fries by your logic is a healthy meal, just potatoes and soaked in "healthy" seed oils. Their buns are made of seed oils too, and the burgers are also fried in them. Fast food burgers must be great if their all cooked in heart healthy seed oils.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fast food is obviously unhealthy, but not because it uses seed oils. None ever said you should consume only oil either, but seed oils are part of a healthy diet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >But its better to not take any poison at all!
        anon

        you fucking retard

        if dose maketh the poison

        then if the dose maketh not poison

        then it's not poison

        and so you're not taking any poison at all

        you

        fucking

        retard

        don't bother replying i'm closing this tab.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          retard doesnt understand that you can just not have bad things and goes to cry. Go take a tiny bit of heroin because low dose right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Uhh are you writing? Post english degree or shut the fuck up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >X is bad for you
    dose
    maketh
    the
    poison

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Correct, which is why eating corn on the cob or sunflower seeds is fine, but processed industrial oils like corn oil and sunflower oil are not

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That is a thought terminating cliche and a truism that applies to literally everything. Why even post?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Retard mode

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Actual retards, tourist or shills filtered, don’t sweat over it

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're part of the *~~ploblem~~*

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What if I told you it was called RAPEseed?
      This is hilarious.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's cope, just like when losers think lifting will get them laid; can't have anyone destroy these delusions

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Accepting that seed oils and refined sugar are bad for you means putting into question literally everything you know to be true. If every authority around you has lied to you about refined sugar and seed oils, what else have they lied to you about? If these things are poison yet still allowed to be sold in literally every food product, what other "healthy" or "good" things you're given are actually poison? Seed oils and refined sugar are so pervasive in society and so deeply accepted that they represent to the average person a sort of cornerstone of reality and the credibility of authority. Break that down and you open yourself to an intense spiral of self-reflection and re-evaluation of reality that most people are terrified to even consider confronting. You're not just telling someone a tidbit of advice to help them be more healthy, you're literally threatening to topple their entire worldview and sense of reality and they push back HARD to maintain their mental status quo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >means putting into question literally everything you know to be true
      Based. Its like when astronomers started to say that the earth revolved around the sun instead of the other way around. People almost got burned at the stake for what seems like a trivial fact today, but like you said, seemingly simple things like that are a total mindfuck to some people because it calls into question the entire schema they have for life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its like doctors telling people to smoke cigarettes all over again. And yeah on about the lies, health and nutrition is a heavily misinformed sphere, especially the "science"

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think people just get overwhelmed by the "EVERYTHING IS BAD!" alarmism that extends to not just IST but the mainstream media as well and they just say fuck it. Every week there's something new that causes cancer, heart, disease etc. Hell, in the case of eggs, there was a total flip flop. At one point low fat was all the rage, now its low carb--its all very confusing. Also, we've had the idea that anything plant = good shoved so far down our throats that its hard to think otherwise.

    A big influencing factor for me personally when deciding what to eat is how heavily processed is the food. Canola oil for example is about as natural as gasoline...sure both of them came out of the ground at one point, but the end product is so far removed its basically an abomination. The difference is that one is going into your car and the other goes into your body. Comparatively, olive oil extraction is so simple you could do it at home if you wanted.

    If you admit that seed oils truly are the devil and need to be excluded from your diet, that eliminates FUCK TONS of options. Its pretty much in all fast food and most processed food.

    Finally, from the USDA to various health organizations/charities, plant oils in general are pushed as the health conscious option, while demonizing animal products. To go against this is seen as conspiratorial thinking because if the government says its good than it must be right?!? In reality, the USDA is an advocacy organization operating in the best interest of farmers (not consumers) and many health organizations get their money from companies that have a vested interest in promoting seed oils because they keep food cheap and profitable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If you admit that seed oils truly are the devil and need to be excluded from your diet, that eliminates FUCK TONS of options. Its pretty much in all fast food and most processed food.

      Good.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Refined sugars and refined proteins are horrible for you

    Seed oils are not as long as you vigorously exercise

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how does exercising make seed oils okay?? completely false

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not offended by your binary system of "good" and "bad", I just don't find it useful
    neither do the people who study this stuff, their reports usually amount to more than "seed oil is good", even if that's all you take away from it

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WOULD ANY OF YOU FUCKERS ALSO SMOKE CIGARETTES IF THE garden gnome DOCTORS OF THE PAST CAME BACK TO TELL YOU IT WAS HEALTHY? SEED OILS ARE POISON, THE VACCINE IS POISON, SUGAR IS POISON, ONIONS IS POISON. YET ALL THESE garden gnomes WANT TO CLAIM ITS ALL HEALTHY. EAT LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS ATE, THEY DID NOT GET HEART FAILURE, CANCER, DIABETES, EXTREME INFLAMMATION AND THEY WERE CERTAINLY NOT FUCKING OBESE.

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