Hopelessly addicted to social media and perceive it as reality. Seeing others getting positive attention for it makes them think it’s good without any further examination.
because whatever fitness influencer they idolize does too. this is the direct result of people being open about their roid usage, because now all the kids want to copy their exact cycle. way better to just not talk about it imo.
gonna be crazy 10 years from now when they've gron up and seeing all the consequences of zoomer lifters and troony zoomers destroying their bodies with hormones at a young age.
Idiocy. Most of them are also doing SARMs. The reddit is especially bad in luring people in, you have a forum / subreddit there dedicated to steroids where they say you'll be fine with just 500mg test for 8-12 weeks. Yes your organs are fine during, probably after, but the endocrine damage can be potentially permanent. If you're under 20 you're also still developing (some say under 25) and you can stunt some growth by starting roids early.
You already see the consequences and I feel that youtube does a way better job of covering these guys who hopped on tren 10 years ago and are now suffering organ damage, recovering from abuse etc.
don't delude yourself, your strength will increase by 20% MAX, and that's if you're going all the way down the rabbit hole and popping anadrol like skittles
The strength increases initially will be major. It's around 15-20% above your maximum natural potential. But most people who have never taken roids are nowhere near their natural limit and will see way more radical strength increases.
Its so invalidating to see shit like this as a 24 yr old powerlifter, like andrew hause for example… like I’m gifted for strength genes but like what if I took roids? I could probably hit an elite total in 3-5 years. But idk if I’ll ever achieve that naturally in 10 🙁
You can just compete naturally. There is no big money in powerlifting and having it as a fun hobby that you compete in can be great. It's also a lot more effort to compete in IPF and go through all the trouble of avoiding certain metabolites, using short esters, timing well just before comp.
>Don't know what a file system is >Don't know how to talk to real people irl >Spend all day making TikTok dances >Chopping off their dicks or roiding to the max
If it weren't for AI, my (millennial) job security would be complete and total
https://i.imgur.com/fx9aIpr.jpg
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>Bald cope hat at probably like 20 years old
holy moly
Nth post best post.
It's a matter of exposure, thank the internet. That, and gym culture has entered the mainstream. This is obviously going to cause fluctuations in trends. We'll have a wave of then 40 year old zoomers with health problems, so on.
Its so invalidating to see shit like this as a 24 yr old powerlifter, like andrew hause for example… like I’m gifted for strength genes but like what if I took roids? I could probably hit an elite total in 3-5 years. But idk if I’ll ever achieve that naturally in 10 🙁
don't delude yourself, your strength will increase by 20% MAX, and that's if you're going all the way down the rabbit hole and popping anadrol like skittles
Yeah but if you get stronger and bigger and mog people like
https://i.imgur.com/fx9aIpr.jpg
To mog worthless millennials like you
naturally, imagine how good that will feel. Lots of people get barely any results out of steroids because the majority that takes them are lazy morons, which is why they took roids in the first place. Like Hasan, who can't deadlift 4pl8s after like 10 years of training but who has TRT shoulders because he's too lazy to do any consistent program. You are better than him.
They think they don’t want kids and have read all the papers saying it’s not as destructive compared to 2decades ago. They don’t know 95% of bodybuilders work 9-5 jobs and think they can get away with sponsorships and competitions for a living.
I think a lot of zoomers have fricked up endocrine systems to begin with due to environmental pollutants, which is why so many turn to the juice. I also think this pushed the fake natty influencer category towards dudes who could very well be natty, but actually aren't. Dudes with obviously low T physiognomy, who probably couldn't get a decent physique natty no matter how hard they tried.
Except, you know, it doesnt screw you for life. You are perpetuating a lie because you are an insecure crabs beta. Trying to hold others back is literally peak beta behavior, womanly behavior.
doesn't screw you for life if you are being monitored by a professional endocrinologist, and if you didn't blast for too long or hard. It really is somewhat miraculous for a teen who blasts on a disgusting diet and routine with no supervision to recover their nuts.
the issue is less *that* they're taking steroids and more the *way* they're taking steroids. Not only do they not have the patience for natty bodybuilding, they don't even have the patience for roided bodybuilding. They want it all from their first cycle so they blast as hard as possible.
>Why are so many zoomers taking steroids now?
Because they saw their crush getting fricked by some jacked rich drug dealer in the back seat of a Dodge Challenger Hellcat and decided that the only way they could possibly be competitive in the current dating market is by blasting gear, getting jacked as frick, and getting as famous as possible on social media.
I'm being 100% honest. Either some rich oldgay stole his crush, or he found out she was bawdting it up on Tinder, and he thinks that getting swole will help him find a new girl before she goes down the "hoe phase" vortex.
If you don't believe me, go ask any zoomer in the gym how they feel about girls their age. Almost every single one of them will admit that finding a decently attractive woman who isn't an unavailable prostitute, or didn't ruin herself with a "hoe phase", is very difficult.
kek i know zoomzoom homies who are unironically converting to islam just so they can avoid marrying a prostitute. and don't even get me started on the passport bros LMAO
A lot of us grew up with movies, cartoons, videogames, etc where almost every character has a superhero physique. So much media depicting these zeusmode men and aphroditemode women. The you grow up and are inevitably faced with the reality check that most human bodies are actually quite ugly and it takes a frickton of work (and usually steroids for men) to look anything like your childhood heroes. Not to mention that most men want a hot girlfriend, and given how superficial society has become, it all adds up.
Basically, a lot of us assumed that exceptional bodies were the norm, and then had an extreme reaction to this not being true.
For me, being lean and well defined is enough, but I can definitely understand the zoomer roider mentality.
>Basically, a lot of us assumed that exceptional bodies were the norm
It's the norm if you have good genes and work hard for it. If zoom-zooms can't check both (or either) of those boxes, they need to temper their expectations. Honestly it's their own fault for assuming otherwise.
I'm 42 and I grew up on 80s action movies. Trust me, the bar was set way higher then, but we also all knew that Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, etc were all on roids (despite what gullible autists on IST would have you believe). But we also knew these guys walked the walk, trained their asses off to look like this and were strong as shit. Flash-forward a few decades and the zoomies want to look like that in high school (never playing any actual sports mind you) and actually think being strong is a bad thing. Look around right here on IST how often you see posters scoffing at "lifting for strength".
Because it has become normalized for people to be open about their steroid usage, thus leading to the notion that therefore it's not dangerous and also a "friendly" and normal idea.
But it's not and it never will be. There's no good reason why a 17 year old that has only lifted for one year should hop on a cycle. They haven't even reached 1/3 of their natural potential. What is needed is more fitness influencers that are truly natty, so that kids see that natural physiques actually take time to build and also won't look like a cartoon superhero (and that's okay). Most kids who hop on steroids don't have a developed enough prefrontal cortex to understand that it can actually do serious, long-term damage. It's also likely to psychologically addicted to it, because unless you wanna become smaller for everytime you work out, you gotta keep taking it.
It's gotta be quite discouraging to be a kid who has all these fitness idols, but none of them are natural. It's gotta be like a continuous slap in the face.
Some people are open and casual about their steroid usage but many aren't, and when they're fed 50 different high-tier physique influencers a minute they don't take the time to separate the real nattys from the fakes. Plus overexposure to good physiques, natty or not, is bad in general because it's really just not the norm.
probably all the dating redpill, bluepill whatever buttholes telling men to work on themselves if they want women and to get in shape and the teens do the fricking math and realize they will have graduated high school before they are fit enough by being natty
they dont want ot lift and diet for years. They want to slam puss now
Which is funny (and extra pathetic) because you don't need to roid to "slam puss". Or at least you shouldn't. You don't need roids to get to an acceptable slaying level and the level you DO need roids for, most girls don't like.
It all goes back to lazy vain insecure kids who not only lift for the wrong reasons but want the results instantly.
Because it has become normalized for people to be open about their steroid usage, thus leading to the notion that therefore it's not dangerous and also a "friendly" and normal idea.
But it's not and it never will be. There's no good reason why a 17 year old that has only lifted for one year should hop on a cycle. They haven't even reached 1/3 of their natural potential. What is needed is more fitness influencers that are truly natty, so that kids see that natural physiques actually take time to build and also won't look like a cartoon superhero (and that's okay). Most kids who hop on steroids don't have a developed enough prefrontal cortex to understand that it can actually do serious, long-term damage. It's also likely to psychologically addicted to it, because unless you wanna become smaller for everytime you work out, you gotta keep taking it.
It's gotta be quite discouraging to be a kid who has all these fitness idols, but none of them are natural. It's gotta be like a continuous slap in the face.
Yeah the open roiding nowadays is terrible. It was unironically better in the fake natty days. If you knew you knew, and everyone else would be filtered out. Roiding to merely plausible deniablility levels is also a lot less unhealthy than freakshows like
https://i.imgur.com/fx9aIpr.jpg
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...not to mention looks much better if we bring it back again to "slamming puss".
>zoomers are lazy and want the results yesterday >zoomers are weak and have no idea how to lift to get good results otherwise >lots of inspiration from their favorite "natty" heroes on chink-tok
When i was 17, 15 years ago, i went to the gym for 2 months, and it was always like this. but tiktok makes it look even cooler because it's sigma based fr fr, so now i guess it's kinda worse
>Not saying it's bad for just a first cycle
I'd have clocked him as natural in the gym.
It's beyond fricking embarrassing is what it is. If you're pinning, your lifts and physique better reflect the cheat codes you are using.
The worst part imo is how people assume you're not natty if you have good gains.
I'm 30, been lifting for 10 fricking years, and guys in the gym subtly always imply that I'm on gear when I talk to them. "jokingly" asking what I'm taking, etc
such a low IQ take
"Influencers" have been lying about using roids since roids were invented, but there was no big issue with 15 year olds hopping on gear to look like Arnold.
Transparency about roids is what caused this mess.
I don't know but the gen zs that i know who juice are all in the 5'3'' 5'7'' range and get mogged by robust build fat slobs in the 6' range on shoulder width alone
Well, if the notion that we have lost T since our grandparents in the 50/60s, then they're just trying to get back to that level.
I see no issues. If T was as widely available as it is now, I would have taken it, too. At least now we know the T is lower by default so theyre basically doing TRT. If thi supsets you, you're either old or you don't leave the house because most zoomers aren't on T. Go to your local Taco Bell and observe.
>grow up with post 2015 social media >clout becomes the most important social currency >clout becomes an avenue to make significant dosh >assess situation. >ripped dudes have clout. >what's the fastest way to get jacked >too young to fully understand consequences of roiding even safely. >blast roids to try to get clout >kill your balls and kidneys for 8k followers and an affiliate link.
they are a product of the times/environment and will hopefully serve as a cautionary tale for the next generation.
This. Thats it, really. All lads here are quick to bash zoomies for being moronic, but you realise are expecting these inexperienced kids with practically zero guidance and no-one accessible to look up to and a huge lack of validation so far, to have a titanium tier spine to both make the evaluations by themselves and then face and hold up their right choices against the face of insane amount of "influence" they are being exposed to from the way things are? I point the finger at the wild shitshow thats going on and feel pity for the zoombas.
Crippling body dysphoria (or dysmorphia, can't remember which is the troony one) brought on by social media.
My 15yo nephew wants to start roids because he can "only" deadlift 140kg.
>HEY ZOOMIE ZOOMS, DIDJA KNOW DRUGS aren't bad for you CRAZY RIIIIGHT??? ALL THE COOL KIDS SMOKE WEED, LOOKS LIKE THOSE WEIRD OLD GUYS WERE wrong ALL ALONG AND DRUGS ARE BASED
then the zoomer takes other drugs too
who could have expected this outcome?
are sarms just as bad as proper roids? I have a friend of insists to high heaven that sarms are fine compared to roids, especially if you take it properly.
Possibly worse since not all side effects are documented well. Some of them react to specific tissue (e.g. eyes) and can give you a permanent yellowish blind spot in your vision.
Is your friend a researcher that has studied the effects of hormone manipulation across an entire human's lifetime with sample of test subjects large enough to be representative or are you sub 100 idiot who just believes the opinions of some random ass dude with a feeling?
There are countless stories of all forms of hormone manipulation ending bad. The practice is poorly understood and only alive today by people's desperation and insecurities. Don't be so eager to run off a cliff just to calm your complexes.
Dumb kid.
>or are you sub 100 idiot who just believes the opinions of some random ass dude with a feeling
Hold your horses there friend, I'm not saying I agree with him.
Perhaps I did not make it clear, but I am skeptical with his position, since there aren't many studies on them. I was just wondering if anyone has found definitive evidence that yes, this stuff is bad for you.
Every new generation pushes against the norms of the previous. Before the zoomers was the emphasis on Nattys, so zoomers are overcorrecting. Gen alpha will go full natty again after the zoomers.
Social media makes them compare themselves to millions of people they will never have anything to do with rather than the people who actually exist in their lives.
This makes ambitious and conscientious youngsters act like mentally ill people because they're trying to beat and challenge other people who for all intents and purposes don't actually exists in their world, they're just pictures on a screen, which create a false standard in the selection of concepts they have stored in their brain. They see something incredibly rare, but they see it so often they internalize it as standard or even expected, they internalize the belief that if they don't have it they're worthless.
Ambition and drive is an instinct that is supposed to drive you to compete with at most a small village of people and rise to the top. You scour your surroundings for data about what is to be expected and then you look for the path to accomplish that, this works perfectly fine in a small group without the massive fake pseudo-reality offered by social media where you only see the best and the most extreme, usually with all the negatives hidden away.
Zoomers are bombarded with supernormal stimuli their whole lives, in this case of different chemically altered and/or rare genetic freak bodies. Their instinct to want to compete and rise to the top of what should be their small tribe takes over and creates a lot of mental anguish when they can't reach the level of physiques they have been bombarded with. They're left with a difficult situation where if they were more mature they might figure out that it's a fools errand, but usually they just roid out and ignore the consequences.
it makes you bigger
Bigger muscles yes
Smaller peen and testicles?
Just smaller testicle, if anything it makes your dick larger.
That part is temporary.
they dont want to do the work
Hopelessly addicted to social media and perceive it as reality. Seeing others getting positive attention for it makes them think it’s good without any further examination.
because whatever fitness influencer they idolize does too. this is the direct result of people being open about their roid usage, because now all the kids want to copy their exact cycle. way better to just not talk about it imo.
gonna be crazy 10 years from now when they've gron up and seeing all the consequences of zoomer lifters and troony zoomers destroying their bodies with hormones at a young age.
maybe that's the point, like a whole eugenics program to weed all the fatties, unhealthy, hormone-laden ones out of the pool somehow 🙁
> Why are so many zoomers taking steroids now?
Idiocy. Most of them are also doing SARMs. The reddit is especially bad in luring people in, you have a forum / subreddit there dedicated to steroids where they say you'll be fine with just 500mg test for 8-12 weeks. Yes your organs are fine during, probably after, but the endocrine damage can be potentially permanent. If you're under 20 you're also still developing (some say under 25) and you can stunt some growth by starting roids early.
You already see the consequences and I feel that youtube does a way better job of covering these guys who hopped on tren 10 years ago and are now suffering organ damage, recovering from abuse etc.
The strength increases initially will be major. It's around 15-20% above your maximum natural potential. But most people who have never taken roids are nowhere near their natural limit and will see way more radical strength increases.
You can just compete naturally. There is no big money in powerlifting and having it as a fun hobby that you compete in can be great. It's also a lot more effort to compete in IPF and go through all the trouble of avoiding certain metabolites, using short esters, timing well just before comp.
>Don't know what a file system is
>Don't know how to talk to real people irl
>Spend all day making TikTok dances
>Chopping off their dicks or roiding to the max
If it weren't for AI, my (millennial) job security would be complete and total
>Bald cope hat at probably like 20 years old
holy moly
Everyone was always taking steroids forever.
Nth post best post.
It's a matter of exposure, thank the internet. That, and gym culture has entered the mainstream. This is obviously going to cause fluctuations in trends. We'll have a wave of then 40 year old zoomers with health problems, so on.
They all want to be trannies
It's a good thing these morons are sterilizing themselves honestly
Why not just do it the Chad way and take Rad 140?
You'll have next to no test in your body, leave that for guys who at the least want to cruise on some test with it.
Its so invalidating to see shit like this as a 24 yr old powerlifter, like andrew hause for example… like I’m gifted for strength genes but like what if I took roids? I could probably hit an elite total in 3-5 years. But idk if I’ll ever achieve that naturally in 10 🙁
just do roids if thats your ultimate goal in your life.
Just know that it comes with consequences
don't delude yourself, your strength will increase by 20% MAX, and that's if you're going all the way down the rabbit hole and popping anadrol like skittles
>not that weak 24yo anon
To be fair, that would surpass world record vor 93kg ipf for me going from 320 to above 380
Yeah but if you get stronger and bigger and mog people like
naturally, imagine how good that will feel. Lots of people get barely any results out of steroids because the majority that takes them are lazy morons, which is why they took roids in the first place. Like Hasan, who can't deadlift 4pl8s after like 10 years of training but who has TRT shoulders because he's too lazy to do any consistent program. You are better than him.
roidtrannies are mentally ill bro, don't even consider them human
Listening to millennials a ton of guys were taking steroids in HS, and if you consider the Black person subgroup almost a majority is on gear lmao
>legs like mine and I barely squat 70kg
soft heads, get pumped fulll of israeliteice
They think they don’t want kids and have read all the papers saying it’s not as destructive compared to 2decades ago. They don’t know 95% of bodybuilders work 9-5 jobs and think they can get away with sponsorships and competitions for a living.
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>perma fricking up your endocrine system to look like THIS
kek
I think a lot of zoomers have fricked up endocrine systems to begin with due to environmental pollutants, which is why so many turn to the juice. I also think this pushed the fake natty influencer category towards dudes who could very well be natty, but actually aren't. Dudes with obviously low T physiognomy, who probably couldn't get a decent physique natty no matter how hard they tried.
that just looks disgusting
Opening that thumbnail is a real jump scare
Both mid physiques
If you’re gonna screw your hormones for life Atleast have an above average looking body lmfao
Except, you know, it doesnt screw you for life. You are perpetuating a lie because you are an insecure crabs beta. Trying to hold others back is literally peak beta behavior, womanly behavior.
>it doesnt screw you for life
doesn't screw you for life if you are being monitored by a professional endocrinologist, and if you didn't blast for too long or hard. It really is somewhat miraculous for a teen who blasts on a disgusting diet and routine with no supervision to recover their nuts.
>roidtroony cope
>talking dumb kids out of abusing drugs is "holding them back"
You’re moronic please kys after posting body pictures so we can mock you for your gyno troony breasts
>looks like a tiny grey ayy next to a normal human
>mog
>to mog worthless millennials like y-ACK
the issue is less *that* they're taking steroids and more the *way* they're taking steroids. Not only do they not have the patience for natty bodybuilding, they don't even have the patience for roided bodybuilding. They want it all from their first cycle so they blast as hard as possible.
this guys 5'2 max and I can tell it haunts him 24/7
>get a small cut
>die
Is he aware that he looks like Short Round when he wears a baseball cap?
Baki the Grappler aesthetic.
Chest looks too much like deflated basketballs and the thighs aren't bodacious enough
No amount of steroids in the world can save those monkey face genetics top fricking kek
>Why are so many zoomers taking steroids now?
Because they saw their crush getting fricked by some jacked rich drug dealer in the back seat of a Dodge Challenger Hellcat and decided that the only way they could possibly be competitive in the current dating market is by blasting gear, getting jacked as frick, and getting as famous as possible on social media.
I'm being 100% honest. Either some rich oldgay stole his crush, or he found out she was bawdting it up on Tinder, and he thinks that getting swole will help him find a new girl before she goes down the "hoe phase" vortex.
If you don't believe me, go ask any zoomer in the gym how they feel about girls their age. Almost every single one of them will admit that finding a decently attractive woman who isn't an unavailable prostitute, or didn't ruin herself with a "hoe phase", is very difficult.
Shit's fricked. I feel sorry for the zoomies.
kek i know zoomzoom homies who are unironically converting to islam just so they can avoid marrying a prostitute. and don't even get me started on the passport bros LMAO
Ion blame them
Nobody in the right mind is gonna marry a washed up prostitute
uhmmmm that's really frickin problematic???? like???
>ion
Kys yourself Black person
>ion
Holy shit zoomers suck
Is "ion" actually lingo or did he just massive frick up "I don't" by accident?
>jacked rich drug dealer in the back seat of a Dodge Challenger Hellcat
This is your idea of Chad? Lmao
nope, but these are the guys you see pulling up to highschool parties who end up fricking some teenage thots and making zoomies seethe
Undeveloped prefrontal cortex and social media
I lift at a college gym and very few people take roids. The ones that do are one of the ball teams.
Most of the roiders are boomers like me
A lot of us grew up with movies, cartoons, videogames, etc where almost every character has a superhero physique. So much media depicting these zeusmode men and aphroditemode women. The you grow up and are inevitably faced with the reality check that most human bodies are actually quite ugly and it takes a frickton of work (and usually steroids for men) to look anything like your childhood heroes. Not to mention that most men want a hot girlfriend, and given how superficial society has become, it all adds up.
Basically, a lot of us assumed that exceptional bodies were the norm, and then had an extreme reaction to this not being true.
For me, being lean and well defined is enough, but I can definitely understand the zoomer roider mentality.
>Basically, a lot of us assumed that exceptional bodies were the norm
It's the norm if you have good genes and work hard for it. If zoom-zooms can't check both (or either) of those boxes, they need to temper their expectations. Honestly it's their own fault for assuming otherwise.
I'm 42 and I grew up on 80s action movies. Trust me, the bar was set way higher then, but we also all knew that Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, etc were all on roids (despite what gullible autists on IST would have you believe). But we also knew these guys walked the walk, trained their asses off to look like this and were strong as shit. Flash-forward a few decades and the zoomies want to look like that in high school (never playing any actual sports mind you) and actually think being strong is a bad thing. Look around right here on IST how often you see posters scoffing at "lifting for strength".
>given how superficial society has become
I know things are a mess, but you always had to be attractive to get somebody attractive, anon
And that's honestly how it should be.
Because they don't care about not being able to have children
Because it has become normalized for people to be open about their steroid usage, thus leading to the notion that therefore it's not dangerous and also a "friendly" and normal idea.
But it's not and it never will be. There's no good reason why a 17 year old that has only lifted for one year should hop on a cycle. They haven't even reached 1/3 of their natural potential. What is needed is more fitness influencers that are truly natty, so that kids see that natural physiques actually take time to build and also won't look like a cartoon superhero (and that's okay). Most kids who hop on steroids don't have a developed enough prefrontal cortex to understand that it can actually do serious, long-term damage. It's also likely to psychologically addicted to it, because unless you wanna become smaller for everytime you work out, you gotta keep taking it.
It's gotta be quite discouraging to be a kid who has all these fitness idols, but none of them are natural. It's gotta be like a continuous slap in the face.
Some people are open and casual about their steroid usage but many aren't, and when they're fed 50 different high-tier physique influencers a minute they don't take the time to separate the real nattys from the fakes. Plus overexposure to good physiques, natty or not, is bad in general because it's really just not the norm.
you guys are obsessed
and the algo is feeding you
never do any zoomers taking steroids come across my eyes in my daily life
enjoy your brainworms
>Why are so many zoomers taking steroids now?
probably all the dating redpill, bluepill whatever buttholes telling men to work on themselves if they want women and to get in shape and the teens do the fricking math and realize they will have graduated high school before they are fit enough by being natty
they dont want ot lift and diet for years. They want to slam puss now
Which is funny (and extra pathetic) because you don't need to roid to "slam puss". Or at least you shouldn't. You don't need roids to get to an acceptable slaying level and the level you DO need roids for, most girls don't like.
It all goes back to lazy vain insecure kids who not only lift for the wrong reasons but want the results instantly.
Yeah the open roiding nowadays is terrible. It was unironically better in the fake natty days. If you knew you knew, and everyone else would be filtered out. Roiding to merely plausible deniablility levels is also a lot less unhealthy than freakshows like
...not to mention looks much better if we bring it back again to "slamming puss".
Can you stop posting these threads already, you fricking mongoloid shizo?
It's a DOGGY DOG WORLD.
you are the MOGGER or the MOGGED.
I AM THE MOGGER. I BLAST TREN.
This dude is pretty small. Was his cycle 200mg of test
Because i lost a nut in my youth and make 119ng/dl naturally.
>zoomers are lazy and want the results yesterday
>zoomers are weak and have no idea how to lift to get good results otherwise
>lots of inspiration from their favorite "natty" heroes on chink-tok
>Pro card
>please notice me troony authorities!
>please legitimise my surrogate activity
I fricking hate organised bodybuilding.
It's so lame it legitimately turns
>being fricking shredded
into something really gay and uncool
Body dysmorphic disorder caused by social media addiction and peer preasure
Zoomers are easily influences
Thus they are liberal
Liberalism abhors work
Thus they take shortcuts
>1/4
What does this mean?
it means a quarter, or 25%. nice quads by the way
Check’d
When i was 17, 15 years ago, i went to the gym for 2 months, and it was always like this. but tiktok makes it look even cooler because it's sigma based fr fr, so now i guess it's kinda worse
It's an impressive lat spread but... that's it?
>No thick arms
>no capped shoulders
>no trap development
>chest is literally teenager tier but at least there's no gyno
>minimal quad sweep
Not saying it's bad for just a first cycle, but lmao at thinking he will get a pro card based off of this.
>Not saying it's bad for just a first cycle
I'd have clocked him as natural in the gym.
It's beyond fricking embarrassing is what it is. If you're pinning, your lifts and physique better reflect the cheat codes you are using.
>becoming troony for THAT
I have the same lats + better chest and i'm natty
Yeah but can you be lean while still having a bloated face?
And why is having a pro card so important?
What benefits does it give you?
sponsorships and money
The worst part imo is how people assume you're not natty if you have good gains.
I'm 30, been lifting for 10 fricking years, and guys in the gym subtly always imply that I'm on gear when I talk to them. "jokingly" asking what I'm taking, etc
Low IQ, simple as
Anyone got the video of the roided zoomers club?
Fitness influencers lie about usage.
Makes the large new influx of gymgoers who got influenced by any of the influencers deluded.
They go to the gym, exercise for way to little of time, barely stick to it, and don't see results that they wanted.
Then you tell them "Hey, this will make you grow muscles and recover quicker!" "You'll finally look like your idol."
They ruin their bodies endocrine system to form it into their ideal.
It's moronic, but it happens.
such a low IQ take
"Influencers" have been lying about using roids since roids were invented, but there was no big issue with 15 year olds hopping on gear to look like Arnold.
Transparency about roids is what caused this mess.
I don't know but the gen zs that i know who juice are all in the 5'3'' 5'7'' range and get mogged by robust build fat slobs in the 6' range on shoulder width alone
That looks like a few months of natty gains
Well, if the notion that we have lost T since our grandparents in the 50/60s, then they're just trying to get back to that level.
I see no issues. If T was as widely available as it is now, I would have taken it, too. At least now we know the T is lower by default so theyre basically doing TRT. If thi supsets you, you're either old or you don't leave the house because most zoomers aren't on T. Go to your local Taco Bell and observe.
My question is where are they getting the money for gear and why are their parents letting them do this to themselves
I kinda feel bad for these zoomers
>grow up with post 2015 social media
>clout becomes the most important social currency
>clout becomes an avenue to make significant dosh
>assess situation.
>ripped dudes have clout.
>what's the fastest way to get jacked
>too young to fully understand consequences of roiding even safely.
>blast roids to try to get clout
>kill your balls and kidneys for 8k followers and an affiliate link.
they are a product of the times/environment and will hopefully serve as a cautionary tale for the next generation.
This. Thats it, really. All lads here are quick to bash zoomies for being moronic, but you realise are expecting these inexperienced kids with practically zero guidance and no-one accessible to look up to and a huge lack of validation so far, to have a titanium tier spine to both make the evaluations by themselves and then face and hold up their right choices against the face of insane amount of "influence" they are being exposed to from the way things are? I point the finger at the wild shitshow thats going on and feel pity for the zoombas.
Crippling body dysphoria (or dysmorphia, can't remember which is the troony one) brought on by social media.
My 15yo nephew wants to start roids because he can "only" deadlift 140kg.
Uh huh and does your 15 year old nephew also claim he has a 9 inch wiener?
Why do you think of minors' genitals so readily?
>HEY ZOOMIE ZOOMS, DIDJA KNOW DRUGS aren't bad for you CRAZY RIIIIGHT??? ALL THE COOL KIDS SMOKE WEED, LOOKS LIKE THOSE WEIRD OLD GUYS WERE wrong ALL ALONG AND DRUGS ARE BASED
then the zoomer takes other drugs too
who could have expected this outcome?
are sarms just as bad as proper roids? I have a friend of insists to high heaven that sarms are fine compared to roids, especially if you take it properly.
Possibly worse since not all side effects are documented well. Some of them react to specific tissue (e.g. eyes) and can give you a permanent yellowish blind spot in your vision.
Is your friend a researcher that has studied the effects of hormone manipulation across an entire human's lifetime with sample of test subjects large enough to be representative or are you sub 100 idiot who just believes the opinions of some random ass dude with a feeling?
There are countless stories of all forms of hormone manipulation ending bad. The practice is poorly understood and only alive today by people's desperation and insecurities. Don't be so eager to run off a cliff just to calm your complexes.
Dumb kid.
>or are you sub 100 idiot who just believes the opinions of some random ass dude with a feeling
Hold your horses there friend, I'm not saying I agree with him.
Perhaps I did not make it clear, but I am skeptical with his position, since there aren't many studies on them. I was just wondering if anyone has found definitive evidence that yes, this stuff is bad for you.
I would not take them either way.
>I was just wondering if anyone has found definitive evidence that yes, this stuff is bad for you.
Yes. Which is why the 2 SARMS that went into clinical testing on humans weren't approved for human usage due to associated risks.
Every new generation pushes against the norms of the previous. Before the zoomers was the emphasis on Nattys, so zoomers are overcorrecting. Gen alpha will go full natty again after the zoomers.
Social media makes them compare themselves to millions of people they will never have anything to do with rather than the people who actually exist in their lives.
This makes ambitious and conscientious youngsters act like mentally ill people because they're trying to beat and challenge other people who for all intents and purposes don't actually exists in their world, they're just pictures on a screen, which create a false standard in the selection of concepts they have stored in their brain. They see something incredibly rare, but they see it so often they internalize it as standard or even expected, they internalize the belief that if they don't have it they're worthless.
Ambition and drive is an instinct that is supposed to drive you to compete with at most a small village of people and rise to the top. You scour your surroundings for data about what is to be expected and then you look for the path to accomplish that, this works perfectly fine in a small group without the massive fake pseudo-reality offered by social media where you only see the best and the most extreme, usually with all the negatives hidden away.
Zoomers are bombarded with supernormal stimuli their whole lives, in this case of different chemically altered and/or rare genetic freak bodies. Their instinct to want to compete and rise to the top of what should be their small tribe takes over and creates a lot of mental anguish when they can't reach the level of physiques they have been bombarded with. They're left with a difficult situation where if they were more mature they might figure out that it's a fools errand, but usually they just roid out and ignore the consequences.
They’re making themselves infertile. Part of the depopulation agenda. Useful idiots.