You keep most of your strength if you keep lifting heavy. Ive been off for about 3 months now and my t levels are 268 climbing and ive somehow added an extra rep to my bench set. 315 3 sets 6 reps. And now im at 80lbs dumb bell ohp 10x3. Basicaly what im trying to say is seethe lanklet homosexual.
>you're impressed by a chemical compound
Well, yes, I'm impressed by how much chemistry can impact the human body. I don't roid and I don't don't plan on jumping on TRT until I'm at least 40, but it is impressive how much a relatively accessible hormone can compensate for some of the natural decline of the human body
>it's so impressive when the hormone that grows muscle gives people muscles when injected
you're a moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
It is impressive that we are able to produce it and apply it so easily, and how much it can improve your quality of life once your natural levels start to decline, moron.
>Nooo noo bu bu bu my muscles are real, those are just fake muscles achieved with hormones
Okay, dipshit, that's not the point
11 months ago
Anonymous
>
>it's so impressive when the hormone that grows muscle gives people muscles when injected
you're a moron (You) >It is impressive that we are able to produce it and apply it so easily, and how much it can improve your quality of life once your natural levels start to decline, moron. >>Nooo noo bu bu bu my muscles are real, those are just fake muscles achieved with hormones >Okay, dipshit, that's not the point
11 months ago
Anonymous
cope harder roidtroony, sorry you're so scared of natural biological phenomenons
this. you are supposed to test in the morning. it decreases during day. look up term "area under curve". hunter gatherers have 400~ test in morning. having constantly 700 is like veing half roid monkey. also take into account levels of shbg which has half life of ~2 weeks. even trtroider with 600 will be more androgenic than 600 natty because higher and stable evening levels of t will supress shbg. all these trt pushing guys are either naive or grifters making cash from it.
He's not on TRT kek, he's a lying homosexual. He's doing at least 500mg/week and some other compound.
That's not the physique of a man that's just on 200mg/week of test.
His test would be higher if he was at 400mg a week
https://i.imgur.com/zM3eI5R.png
Why aren't you on TRT?
250 pounds with a six pack at 53 on trt? I swear to god someone from here must have made that post. It’s like one of those troony demoralization posts where they use a picture of a real girl. The guy on the right has been on multiple cycles, and definitely more than just testosterone. Not fricking trt
That or it's because his t blood levels are constantly at 687, 24/7, 365.
A natties t levels will fluctuate throughout the day.
It may be 687 in the morning but 343 by bed time.
Also a guy on trt can a have a night of shitty sleep but still have a t level of 687.
While with a natties t level will be super low.
Even if someone on TRT is within natty ranges, they are still not natty and probably get a lot of benefits that people who take steroid levels get.
I’m with you on the ‘he’s lying’ train. 53 years old, 1 year of training, “TRT”………
See
That or it's because his t blood levels are constantly at 687, 24/7, 365.
A natties t levels will fluctuate throughout the day.
It may be 687 in the morning but 343 by bed time.
Also a guy on trt can a have a night of shitty sleep but still have a t level of 687.
While with a natties t level will be super low.
Even if someone on TRT is within natty ranges, they are still not natty and probably get a lot of benefits that people who take steroid levels get.
As a natty, your test levels PEAK at maybe 600ng/dl (average for a 20 year old is now around 500 peak bc of food). Throughout the day they'll drop and dip into the low 300s.
These tests are always done 1 week after your last injection. His test was at 687ng/dl at the lowest point and will be in the high 600s until his next injection - and about 3 days after that injection his levels will be around 900. All day. All night. You cannot compete
>These tests are always done 1 week after your last injection. His test was at 687ng/dl at the lowest point and will be in the high 600s until his next injection - and about 3 days after that injection his levels will be around 900. All day. All night. You cannot compete
your test varies throughout the day. its not healthy to have always elevated test
>we show that TT [total testosterone] peaks [mean (2.5–97.5 percentile)] at 15.4 (7.2–31.1) nmol/L at an average age of 19 years, and falls in the average case [mean (2.5–97.5 percentile)] to 13.0 (6.6–25.3) nmol/L by age 40 years
Free testosterone and sex binding globulin have a more dramatic effect then total T levels. Actual testosterone levels don't really matter as long as they are in normal range.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I see, and the part the israelites play in this process?
I’m with you on the ‘he’s lying’ train. 53 years old, 1 year of training, “TRT”………
That or it's because his t blood levels are constantly at 687, 24/7, 365.
A natties t levels will fluctuate throughout the day.
It may be 687 in the morning but 343 by bed time.
Also a guy on trt can a have a night of shitty sleep but still have a t level of 687.
While with a natties t level will be super low.
Even if someone on TRT is within natty ranges, they are still not natty and probably get a lot of benefits that people who take steroid levels get.
[...]
See [...]
As a natty, your test levels PEAK at maybe 600ng/dl (average for a 20 year old is now around 500 peak bc of food). Throughout the day they'll drop and dip into the low 300s.
These tests are always done 1 week after your last injection. His test was at 687ng/dl at the lowest point and will be in the high 600s until his next injection - and about 3 days after that injection his levels will be around 900. All day. All night. You cannot compete
No, it's because he's bullshitting. I'm on 250mg of test, with 950 ng/dl test levels (checked in a clinic), I bench over 400, deadlift over 600, and I don't look like this dude. He's either lying or he has really, really good genetics. Most guys will heavily downplay their usage, including men who are "open" about it.
Probably because you're fat. That guy has like 16" arms and is hovering around 12% bodyfat. He literally has breasts from fat. Absolutely nothing about him screams more than TRT
>Probably because you're fat.
Nope. Visible abs and veins.
>That guy has like 16" arms
He's 6'3. You are mentally disabled if you think those are 16 inches.
Actually, let's plug in his numbers. At 6'3, 250lbs and 12% bodyfat, he has a FFMI of 27. The same as Arnold in his bodybuilding days. Anyone who thinks this guy is taking just "a little bit of test" is an imbecile.
>At 6'3, 250lbs and 12% he has a FFMI of 27
Look at him, then look at Arnold and then ask yourself "hmm, I wonder if he's lying about his weight" or "hmm would he look like pic related if he lost 10 more pounds"
If you think he'd look like Arnold if he lost 10 more pounds, well you're even more moronic than you already seem.
Pic related is 6'2, 235 just so we're clear.
Once again, there is absolutely NOTHING about his physique that screams roids other than TRT and you're coping hard af. Your entire argument hinges on the fact he's actually 250 in that picture
You're a moron. Arnold has, insane insertions, elite genetics, is half his age and is in stage shape here. You're out of your mind if you think a 53yo is going to look anything like the OP with 683 ng/dl.
The guy is 100% lying. I've been on TRT for years now at .4ML a week 200mg/ml. So literally half of what he takes. I get my test level checked at the halfway point between injections and my test is at like 800~ and I don't look near like him. I don't believe his test is that low with his dosage and I don't believe he got a transformation like that in that timeframe with those numbers either
TRT is inheritently superior even at the same test level as natty because on TRT your test levels will be consistent regardless of diet, sleep, routine, supplementation. You as a natty will have vastly fluctuating levels of test even throughout the day. Shit sleep? Congrats you are low T today. Not eating enough? Congrats, also low T.
Imagine being at a large calorie deficit, drinking alcohol, getting shit sleep and STILL you are constantly at solid natty test levels.
Real naturals have to do everything right all the time to even come close.
Because you WON'T be able to do this consistently on a level that would matter, and you will eventually burn out mentally if you try to do everything perfectly.
This is not sustainable in the long run, unless you're mentally ill.
>being natty promotes living a healthy lifestyle >being on steroids promotes an unhealthy lifestyle on top of diseases associated with taking them
You're not making a good casefor them
TRT is inheritently superior even at the same test level as natty because on TRT your test levels will be consistent regardless of diet, sleep, routine, supplementation. You as a natty will have vastly fluctuating levels of test even throughout the day. Shit sleep? Congrats you are low T today. Not eating enough? Congrats, also low T.
Imagine being at a large calorie deficit, drinking alcohol, getting shit sleep and STILL you are constantly at solid natty test levels.
Real naturals have to do everything right all the time to even come close.
- Oral Testosterone can have negative effects on your liver (like a lot of oils).
- He is injecting Testosterone which to the contrary at small amounts can actually have positive benefits on your liver.
It’s completely different and it’s basically cause orally it goes through digestive system.
Lots of oral drugs are methylated in order to survive being passed through the liver, in order to survive being passed through the liver, it basically needs to break the liver. Simplistic answer but it's better than what you had to start with.
Lots of morons in here not understanding that exogenous testosterone (aka test from outside of your body) is not equal to endogenous testosterone (produced by your body). This is why TRT is not natty
Yeah, this guy's lying his ass off. Anyone who's actually been on test knows you ain't getting this 200mg of test. This is either a troll or he's on a lot more and just lying.
You can get that on 50mg of test. How you respond to androgens is genetics, you can take 500mg of test and get nothing but the bad effects if you don't have the genes.
TRT is inherently supposed to replace T that should be there, it's literally in the name.
If when I turn 50 I could work out that I should have x testosterone naturally but the modern world fricked up my natural testosterone production, I might consider it. However then you have shutdown of your own testosterone and dependency issues. Who wants to depend on a bunch of israelite doctors to make their man hormone for the rest of their life. So I don't know. It is an interesting fact that some people's testosterone barely falls all the way into old age.
this homie is at my levels. good to know i can get there without consooming. also this guy literally looks like that lemon you left in your fridge that got all dehydrated and shriveled lmao
Test boosters will help somebody who is has male hypogonadism regrow hair and de-bloat the forehead. Perhaps with Test at 135ml/mg he could’ve been Hypogonadic
>average silent generation White man had 1,000mg/ml of total test >average zoomer White man has 700/1,000mg/ml of total test >woe is nigh blast androgynes hormones
Doctors are the mega servents of financial interests and government. See how all of the sneaks shut their mouth during corona and took the 4x wage bribes and vaxx head money. Kill them all.
One big reason is you can't be moronic about it or you can frick up your natural test for life. Imagine being a doctor and being held resposible for some moron not pinning right. Especially when the moron is probably fat, so you can already assume he can't into discipline. And for what? So he can look a little better a little faster?
Yeah, that's why doctors never give patients prescriptions for health drugs because the patient could frick up the dose and kill himself therefore doctors don't want to be held responsible for it and never give patients any prescriptions. Frick outta here you moronic clown.
Doctors mainly care about avoiding negatives, not creating positives. Maybe it's because they're generally privileged enough to think that the baseline is good enough.
HAHAHAHAHAHA no one even replies, they know they are lazy they just want something to blame >waaaaah he's using testosterone and im not, thats why i cant build muscle!!! waaaaaaah
No, that's bodybuilder lean, not real world lean. The OP is lean by anyone's standards and you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT.
>my definition of lean is objective and yours is subjective because I am a special little snowflake
have a nice day
>you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT
There is absolutely nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT. See
https://i.imgur.com/g4cBxTz.jpg
All these DYEL incels saying he's on more than just TRT... how pathetic. You are literally trying so hard to lower the bar so you can make excuses as to why you look like shit. "This is just how naturals look bro" hahahahaha no, you just workout like a pussy. I see you losers in the gym everyday. You all just use cables/machines and when you use free weights you look goofy as frick
Daily Reminder pic related is natural and was randomly drug tested for both steroids and hormone fluctuations for a whole year and tested his 1rm both before, during, and after the test period as well as took pictures of his physique and ended up gaining a small amount of strength and his physique never changed
Cope and seethe you weird coping incels and hurry up and have a nice day. You're all genetic failures both physically and mentally. Don't reply, just grab a knife and ram it into your chest or blow your brains out after reading this
then cope harder you little pussy
>a bit of TRT
Not a "bit", dumbfrick. 160mg/week is full blown TRT
Based on your simple post, it's obvious you're not only DYEL but you're low IQ.
Why did you post a body of e-celebrity instead of yours to prove your point?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because I'm not similar height/weight as the guy in the OP you absolute moron hahahahaha holy shit you're unironically moronic. Even when you try to talk shit all you do is expose how stupid you are
>e-celebrity
Lmao, have sex nerd. Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
11 months ago
Anonymous
ahahahahohohoho a dyel who won't post his body calls others dyels ahahahohoho what a funny situation
11 months ago
Anonymous
>now I'll just completely abandon the topic at hand and try to shift focus onto you personally!
have a nice day incel
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looking kinda gay bro
11 months ago
Anonymous
perhaps the next time you go to the gym you should try something else than just bicep curls you mentally unstable twink
11 months ago
Anonymous
>blurry as shit pic >still looks noticeable smaller and fatter than the old man in the pic
If you were trying to convince us that the OP is on a full blast, congrats. You did it.
Both of you look like such shit that you can not and will not post even your wrists because even THEY are indicative of your shit, grotesque body. Cmon lil cellys. Prove me wrong. Post wrist. It's just a wrist :^)
11 months ago
Anonymous
Black person, post a pic taken with an actual camera instead a potato first, then try to talk shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no wrist pic
Hahahahaha holy shit how absolutely PATHETIC. I mean seriously, how shit do you have to look for your fricking WRISTS to tell the story?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have 8 inch wrists lol. Keep coping, potato boy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no pic >still seething >just trust me bro!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>look average >get mad people say you look average
K.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>looks like such shit he can't even post wrists
All anyone needs to know about you
11 months ago
Anonymous
>blurry as shit pic >still looks noticeable smaller and fatter than the old man in the pic
If you were trying to convince us that the OP is on a full blast, congrats. You did it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>i didn't post my body because i'm not 6'3" >but instead to prove my point i posted a body of my favorite 5'7" e-celbebrity >keeps calling people stupid
pot, meet kettle
also you're small irl
I was going to give you a serious reply, but then I saw this post
https://i.imgur.com/g4cBxTz.jpg
All these DYEL incels saying he's on more than just TRT... how pathetic. You are literally trying so hard to lower the bar so you can make excuses as to why you look like shit. "This is just how naturals look bro" hahahahaha no, you just workout like a pussy. I see you losers in the gym everyday. You all just use cables/machines and when you use free weights you look goofy as frick
Daily Reminder pic related is natural and was randomly drug tested for both steroids and hormone fluctuations for a whole year and tested his 1rm both before, during, and after the test period as well as took pictures of his physique and ended up gaining a small amount of strength and his physique never changed
Cope and seethe you weird coping incels and hurry up and have a nice day. You're all genetic failures both physically and mentally. Don't reply, just grab a knife and ram it into your chest or blow your brains out after reading this
post and realized you are a troll or mentally handicapped. Either way, good day, homosexual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope harder incel. When you inevitably have a nice day, please do it with a knife so you don't become another gun statistic to be used be the left
>my definition of lean is objective and yours is subjective because I am a special little snowflake
have a nice day
>you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT
There is absolutely nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT. See [...] then cope harder you little pussy
>a bit of TRT
Not a "bit", dumbfrick. 160mg/week is full blown TRT
Based on your simple post, it's obvious you're not only DYEL but you're low IQ.
Because I'm not similar height/weight as the guy in the OP you absolute moron hahahahaha holy shit you're unironically moronic. Even when you try to talk shit all you do is expose how stupid you are
>e-celebrity
Lmao, have sex nerd. Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
Not him but >UHMMM ACKSHUALLY ONLY TROONLYMPIA PHYSIQUES ARE LEAN
You're mentally ill and you have body dysmorphia.
OP's dude is BLASTING, not just using TRT.
You're so fricking gullible it's actually funny.
>Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
You literally only posted ecelebs that are on a shitload of gear.
ACKSHUALLY ONLY TROONLYMPIA PHYSIQUES ARE LEAN >You're mentally ill and you have body dysmorphia
See first part of
>my definition of lean is objective and yours is subjective because I am a special little snowflake
have a nice day
>you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT
There is absolutely nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT. See [...] then cope harder you little pussy
>a bit of TRT
Not a "bit", dumbfrick. 160mg/week is full blown TRT
Based on your simple post, it's obvious you're not only DYEL but you're low IQ.
See second part of
>my definition of lean is objective and yours is subjective because I am a special little snowflake
have a nice day
>you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT
There is absolutely nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT. See [...] then cope harder you little pussy
>a bit of TRT
Not a "bit", dumbfrick. 160mg/week is full blown TRT
Based on your simple post, it's obvious you're not only DYEL but you're low IQ.
and all of
https://i.imgur.com/g4cBxTz.jpg
All these DYEL incels saying he's on more than just TRT... how pathetic. You are literally trying so hard to lower the bar so you can make excuses as to why you look like shit. "This is just how naturals look bro" hahahahaha no, you just workout like a pussy. I see you losers in the gym everyday. You all just use cables/machines and when you use free weights you look goofy as frick
Daily Reminder pic related is natural and was randomly drug tested for both steroids and hormone fluctuations for a whole year and tested his 1rm both before, during, and after the test period as well as took pictures of his physique and ended up gaining a small amount of strength and his physique never changed
Cope and seethe you weird coping incels and hurry up and have a nice day. You're all genetic failures both physically and mentally. Don't reply, just grab a knife and ram it into your chest or blow your brains out after reading this
>ecelebs
See second part of
Because I'm not similar height/weight as the guy in the OP you absolute moron hahahahaha holy shit you're unironically moronic. Even when you try to talk shit all you do is expose how stupid you are
>e-celebrity
Lmao, have sex nerd. Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
>i didn't post my body because i'm not 6'3" >but instead to prove my point i posted a body of my favorite 5'7" e-celbebrity >keeps calling people stupid
pot, meet kettle
also you're small irl
>>but instead to prove my point i posted a body of my favorite 5'7" e-celbebrity
Calum Von Moger is 6'2 you stupid frick hahahahahahahah
All these DYEL incels saying he's on more than just TRT... how pathetic. You are literally trying so hard to lower the bar so you can make excuses as to why you look like shit. "This is just how naturals look bro" hahahahaha no, you just workout like a pussy. I see you losers in the gym everyday. You all just use cables/machines and when you use free weights you look goofy as frick
Daily Reminder pic related is natural and was randomly drug tested for both steroids and hormone fluctuations for a whole year and tested his 1rm both before, during, and after the test period as well as took pictures of his physique and ended up gaining a small amount of strength and his physique never changed
Cope and seethe you weird coping incels and hurry up and have a nice day. You're all genetic failures both physically and mentally. Don't reply, just grab a knife and ram it into your chest or blow your brains out after reading this
I've been on 100mg every OTHER week for 12 months and apparently the boys can swim good enough to pass this at home motility test.
Some anon on here said that this is such a low dose to even worry about fertility.
Can someone else confirm this?
yes, that dose is super fricking low, and honestly doing every other week is stupid too because you will have big fluctuations in release/use of hormones instead of having stable levels
At what dose/frequency do I need to worry about fertility?
At my current dose I feel a lot better than before I started taking it
yes, that dose is super fricking low, and honestly doing every other week is stupid too because you will have big fluctuations in release/use of hormones instead of having stable levels
>53 >half a century old
very simple
the body lives on a cycle, test makes you aggressive and make rash decisions, at 53, you need to have low test, because your body is literally a fricking husk and you can't be doing the same kind of stupid shit you were doing in your teens
Based israelites tricking some more manlet incels on IST into becoming transgenders via the well known roids to troony pipeline. Get these short kings out of the gene pool!
Man I'm for him unfricking his shit so well. But bros imagine if you never let yourself go in the first place. Once you make it please maintain and control yourselves. Try Mentzer and Steeve Reeves ideas on programming. I'm kind of doing my own thing, more like Mentzer's program and have never felt better tbh, no strength lost.
This just shows that if you're hot then you're hot fat or fit. I'd let him frick my bussy before and after. I'd have a three way spit roast with both at the same time. I'd enjoy topping both, and I would like topping right more.
the difference between natty and 300mg test """"""""""""""""TRT""""""""""""""""" is bigger than the difference between 300mg test and blasting tren
you can actually build an incredible physique on that amount of test. Most people won't be able to, or will require a bunch of other blasts, but 300mg of test can hold a shit load of muscle, even when lean. Natural lifting is a joke when you realize 300mg of test has virtually no sides if you don't have dogshit acne/blood pressure genetics
Because i don't need to cope with chemicals to be fit and healthy at 29 years old like you homosexuals.
Thanks fitGPT
Go back to your containment site you fricking schizos
Unplug yourself, bot.
I can't wait until the economy gets worse or even better the US embargoes China or vice versa and all these daggots can't get their hormones.
How expensive is TRT?
test is dirt cheap. i don't need it but i'll do a cycle eventually
You keep most of your strength if you keep lifting heavy. Ive been off for about 3 months now and my t levels are 268 climbing and ive somehow added an extra rep to my bench set. 315 3 sets 6 reps. And now im at 80lbs dumb bell ohp 10x3. Basicaly what im trying to say is seethe lanklet homosexual.
>3 pl8 bench
>not even natty
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
TRT is produced in the US
from Chinese raws
>source: your schizo brain that has to imagine fake scenarios to cope with how shit your life is
It'll just stop the poors who rely on UGL. My U.S. lab will continue producing my prescription TRT.
that's actually impressive
how is it impressive when the test did all of the work?
It's impressive the difference TRT can make. There, are you happy now? Butthurt dyel
you're impressed by a chemical compound and you call ME the dyel. shut up little moron mong and get off my board.
>you're impressed by a chemical compound
Well, yes, I'm impressed by how much chemistry can impact the human body. I don't roid and I don't don't plan on jumping on TRT until I'm at least 40, but it is impressive how much a relatively accessible hormone can compensate for some of the natural decline of the human body
>it's so impressive when the hormone that grows muscle gives people muscles when injected
you're a moron
It is impressive that we are able to produce it and apply it so easily, and how much it can improve your quality of life once your natural levels start to decline, moron.
>Nooo noo bu bu bu my muscles are real, those are just fake muscles achieved with hormones
Okay, dipshit, that's not the point
>
you're a moron (You)
>It is impressive that we are able to produce it and apply it so easily, and how much it can improve your quality of life once your natural levels start to decline, moron.
>>Nooo noo bu bu bu my muscles are real, those are just fake muscles achieved with hormones
>Okay, dipshit, that's not the point
cope harder roidtroony, sorry you're so scared of natural biological phenomenons
>683
That's natty levels.
test E slow releasing a constant stream of test in to your blood is not the same as natural levels of the same concentration
this. you are supposed to test in the morning. it decreases during day. look up term "area under curve". hunter gatherers have 400~ test in morning. having constantly 700 is like veing half roid monkey. also take into account levels of shbg which has half life of ~2 weeks. even trtroider with 600 will be more androgenic than 600 natty because higher and stable evening levels of t will supress shbg. all these trt pushing guys are either naive or grifters making cash from it.
He's not on TRT kek, he's a lying homosexual. He's doing at least 500mg/week and some other compound.
That's not the physique of a man that's just on 200mg/week of test.
>200mg twice a week
>TRT
lol, lmao even
nice math its 160 a week
Lmao.
His test would be higher if he was at 400mg a week
250 pounds with a six pack at 53 on trt? I swear to god someone from here must have made that post. It’s like one of those troony demoralization posts where they use a picture of a real girl. The guy on the right has been on multiple cycles, and definitely more than just testosterone. Not fricking trt
It's test? I doubt this, old juicers don't look that shredded, I think he pins more.
test is only at 687 and he got results like that?
wtf? plenty of natties have levels like that and they can't just drastically change their bodies like that in one year.
he's gotta be lying about his blood test results and dosage, cause this shit isn't adding up
I’m with you on the ‘he’s lying’ train. 53 years old, 1 year of training, “TRT”………
That or it's because his t blood levels are constantly at 687, 24/7, 365.
A natties t levels will fluctuate throughout the day.
It may be 687 in the morning but 343 by bed time.
Also a guy on trt can a have a night of shitty sleep but still have a t level of 687.
While with a natties t level will be super low.
Even if someone on TRT is within natty ranges, they are still not natty and probably get a lot of benefits that people who take steroid levels get.
See
As a natty, your test levels PEAK at maybe 600ng/dl (average for a 20 year old is now around 500 peak bc of food). Throughout the day they'll drop and dip into the low 300s.
These tests are always done 1 week after your last injection. His test was at 687ng/dl at the lowest point and will be in the high 600s until his next injection - and about 3 days after that injection his levels will be around 900. All day. All night. You cannot compete
>These tests are always done 1 week after your last injection. His test was at 687ng/dl at the lowest point and will be in the high 600s until his next injection - and about 3 days after that injection his levels will be around 900. All day. All night. You cannot compete
your test varies throughout the day. its not healthy to have always elevated test
>900mg/dl
>elevated
Yep, r/fitness has definitely migrated here
you have a reading comprehension problem - probably because you are over aggressive from your unnaturally elevated T
as stated T varies - when you take T it remains elevated. the ranges you show are large, because T varies
Once again
>900mg/dl
>elevated
moron, you can Google "normal testosterone range in men" and 9/10 sources will say the range is between 200-900
Actually have a nice day for being so stupid
Nta but reddit is where someone like you will be happy and healthy.
Bullshit I’ve never taken anything more than creatine and I’m not particularly strong and definitely not ripped either.
Don't get mad at me, I'm just the messenger
>we show that TT [total testosterone] peaks [mean (2.5–97.5 percentile)] at 15.4 (7.2–31.1) nmol/L at an average age of 19 years, and falls in the average case [mean (2.5–97.5 percentile)] to 13.0 (6.6–25.3) nmol/L by age 40 years
15.4 nmol/L is 444 ng/dl
13 nmol/L is 375 ng/dl
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4190174/
I’m starting to think testosterone is just a big israeli lie all together
Free testosterone and sex binding globulin have a more dramatic effect then total T levels. Actual testosterone levels don't really matter as long as they are in normal range.
I see, and the part the israelites play in this process?
Can do you back to your containment board now?
That’s not very nice anon.
>As a natty, your test levels PEAK at maybe 600ng/dl
lel no, I'm 37 and this is my results.
Did you do anything for this or was your T always on the high end? I'm wondering if increasing muscle mass raises test ovef time.
No, it's because he's bullshitting. I'm on 250mg of test, with 950 ng/dl test levels (checked in a clinic), I bench over 400, deadlift over 600, and I don't look like this dude. He's either lying or he has really, really good genetics. Most guys will heavily downplay their usage, including men who are "open" about it.
Probably because you're fat. That guy has like 16" arms and is hovering around 12% bodyfat. He literally has breasts from fat. Absolutely nothing about him screams more than TRT
>Probably because you're fat.
Nope. Visible abs and veins.
>That guy has like 16" arms
He's 6'3. You are mentally disabled if you think those are 16 inches.
Actually, let's plug in his numbers. At 6'3, 250lbs and 12% bodyfat, he has a FFMI of 27. The same as Arnold in his bodybuilding days. Anyone who thinks this guy is taking just "a little bit of test" is an imbecile.
>At 6'3, 250lbs and 12% he has a FFMI of 27
Look at him, then look at Arnold and then ask yourself "hmm, I wonder if he's lying about his weight" or "hmm would he look like pic related if he lost 10 more pounds"
If you think he'd look like Arnold if he lost 10 more pounds, well you're even more moronic than you already seem.
Pic related is 6'2, 235 just so we're clear.
Once again, there is absolutely NOTHING about his physique that screams roids other than TRT and you're coping hard af. Your entire argument hinges on the fact he's actually 250 in that picture
>arnold
>6'2
kek
Cope harder incel
arnold was 5'11, all of the hieght frauded
Arnold's giant pillow sized pecs and small mid section is simply legendary
did Loren Franc fell for the starting strength meme?
>Pic related is 6'2
he has fricked up belly from hernia. hes not nuch smaller. just waist ruins it and degrates look into brickmode
You're a moron. Arnold has, insane insertions, elite genetics, is half his age and is in stage shape here. You're out of your mind if you think a 53yo is going to look anything like the OP with 683 ng/dl.
>Once again, there is absolutely NOTHING about his physique that screams roids other than TRT
>visible abs when relaxed
>at over 50 and over 220 lbs
arnold has a slimmer torso. different body compositions
is his penis really that small??
The guy is 100% lying. I've been on TRT for years now at .4ML a week 200mg/ml. So literally half of what he takes. I get my test level checked at the halfway point between injections and my test is at like 800~ and I don't look near like him. I don't believe his test is that low with his dosage and I don't believe he got a transformation like that in that timeframe with those numbers either
Big surprise, the trt homosexual is lying. Newsflash, they're all lying homosexuals. More at 6.
TRT is inheritently superior even at the same test level as natty because on TRT your test levels will be consistent regardless of diet, sleep, routine, supplementation. You as a natty will have vastly fluctuating levels of test even throughout the day. Shit sleep? Congrats you are low T today. Not eating enough? Congrats, also low T.
Imagine being at a large calorie deficit, drinking alcohol, getting shit sleep and STILL you are constantly at solid natty test levels.
Real naturals have to do everything right all the time to even come close.
>Real naturals have to do everything right all the time to even come close.
what's wrong with this tho
Because you WON'T be able to do this consistently on a level that would matter, and you will eventually burn out mentally if you try to do everything perfectly.
This is not sustainable in the long run, unless you're mentally ill.
>tfw mentally ill
WAGMI bros
post body
>being natty promotes living a healthy lifestyle
>being on steroids promotes an unhealthy lifestyle on top of diseases associated with taking them
You're not making a good casefor them
not what he said you moron
natty promotes living a healthy lifestyle
Ahahahah
Yeah, sure.
Could also be low SHBG levels, meaning free T is high as shite
read
he's getting results in his sleep thanks to TRT
Fake test does not fluctuate, when you lift your test actually drops for your body to do some other shit
My test was around 800 last time I checked and I'm a skinny natty
I am functioning well enough. I only want to take it when I need it.
Pretty sure it's bad for your liver and I've been demolishing that bad boy for a decade now.
>TRT
>Pretty sure it's bad for your liver
Have read all over gear kills liver
- Oral Testosterone can have negative effects on your liver (like a lot of oils).
- He is injecting Testosterone which to the contrary at small amounts can actually have positive benefits on your liver.
It’s completely different and it’s basically cause orally it goes through digestive system.
>oils
Orals*
Frick me
>Frick me
For phoneposting? Yes I agree.
Lots of oral drugs are methylated in order to survive being passed through the liver, in order to survive being passed through the liver, it basically needs to break the liver. Simplistic answer but it's better than what you had to start with.
my balls work, sorry yours don't
Lots of morons in here not understanding that exogenous testosterone (aka test from outside of your body) is not equal to endogenous testosterone (produced by your body). This is why TRT is not natty
Yeah, this guy's lying his ass off. Anyone who's actually been on test knows you ain't getting this 200mg of test. This is either a troll or he's on a lot more and just lying.
You can get that on 50mg of test. How you respond to androgens is genetics, you can take 500mg of test and get nothing but the bad effects if you don't have the genes.
>53
>250 at 6'3
>with abs
I'm getting on TRT when I hit 40.
And you'll be disappointed because that dude is lying about his dosage.
t. /fraud/
he looks like a disgusting roid freak
look at that belly and skin holy frick. gross
maybe i will if i'm 50 and i'm not looking so hot
TRT is inherently supposed to replace T that should be there, it's literally in the name.
If when I turn 50 I could work out that I should have x testosterone naturally but the modern world fricked up my natural testosterone production, I might consider it. However then you have shutdown of your own testosterone and dependency issues. Who wants to depend on a bunch of israelite doctors to make their man hormone for the rest of their life. So I don't know. It is an interesting fact that some people's testosterone barely falls all the way into old age.
Because I'm not a troony
Wtf it's not even the same person. You guys are all homosexuals.
Don't wanna, simple as
How hard do you have to be coping to take chemicals so you can look like that as a 53 year old man?
>NOOOOOOO you have to remain low-T just like me!!!
Exactly, I lift heavy now so I can be one of those public park calisthenics grandpas when I'm old instead of falling for the roidtroony cope
this homie is at my levels. good to know i can get there without consooming. also this guy literally looks like that lemon you left in your fridge that got all dehydrated and shriveled lmao
I think I'll start after 50
Which means I still have almost 30 years
you don't need TRT for this
or maybe you do
lole
Lol post body.
trust me bro
>Why aren't you on TRT?
Imagine not killing yourself at 50 lfmao. Getting old is for homosexuals, I won't face the reaper without any muscles.
you can be high test in old age through lifting and not having diseases
Hahahha. Ive byen on 3grams of test and that guy is a fricking liar
His hairline went from Norwood 2A to a norwood 1.5. How?
he took nandrolone perhaps?
Test boosters will help somebody who is has male hypogonadism regrow hair and de-bloat the forehead. Perhaps with Test at 135ml/mg he could’ve been Hypogonadic
It clearly benefits men. Makes you wonder why doctors refuse to prescribe it unless in extreme cases
>average silent generation White man had 1,000mg/ml of total test
>average zoomer White man has 700/1,000mg/ml of total test
>woe is nigh blast androgynes hormones
GOOD MORNING SIRS
You needed high test back then life was rough, if you had heart problems, allergies, you just died.
>test treated allergies
dyel incel tales
Doctors are the mega servents of financial interests and government. See how all of the sneaks shut their mouth during corona and took the 4x wage bribes and vaxx head money. Kill them all.
it could be because it makes you sterile
One big reason is you can't be moronic about it or you can frick up your natural test for life. Imagine being a doctor and being held resposible for some moron not pinning right. Especially when the moron is probably fat, so you can already assume he can't into discipline. And for what? So he can look a little better a little faster?
Yeah, that's why doctors never give patients prescriptions for health drugs because the patient could frick up the dose and kill himself therefore doctors don't want to be held responsible for it and never give patients any prescriptions. Frick outta here you moronic clown.
They will prescribe you addictive antidepressants like candy though. What a life.
Doctors mainly care about avoiding negatives, not creating positives. Maybe it's because they're generally privileged enough to think that the baseline is good enough.
ROIDgayS GET THE ROPE!
HAHAHAHAHAHA no one even replies, they know they are lazy they just want something to blame
>waaaaah he's using testosterone and im not, thats why i cant build muscle!!! waaaaaaah
i will, after i conclude my family planning
why you ask?
How much does TRT affect hair loss?
Significant acceleration of mpb
It will accelerate it if you're prone.
He is 50, he doesn't give a frick what happens to him in 10 years.
Guy using testosterone over a year, gets abs and some muscle. Yet some of you think its not possible. You guys need start training or something.
That's a lot of gained muscle, especially for someone that lean.
It's just too fast for only trt.
You can kinda tell he had some in the before pic, probably lighting fraud in the second pic makes him look more intimidating
>250lbs LEAN
>some muscle
You're clinically moronic.
>lean
Lmao pls go. Pic related is 6'2, 250lbs lean. guy in OP is probably holding 20lbs of water and literally has fat breasts. COPE harder, incel
No, that's bodybuilder lean, not real world lean. The OP is lean by anyone's standards and you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT.
>my definition of lean is objective and yours is subjective because I am a special little snowflake
have a nice day
>you are moronic if you think that's possible at 53 on a bit of TRT
There is absolutely nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT. See
then cope harder you little pussy
>a bit of TRT
Not a "bit", dumbfrick. 160mg/week is full blown TRT
Based on your simple post, it's obvious you're not only DYEL but you're low IQ.
Why did you post a body of e-celebrity instead of yours to prove your point?
Because I'm not similar height/weight as the guy in the OP you absolute moron hahahahaha holy shit you're unironically moronic. Even when you try to talk shit all you do is expose how stupid you are
>e-celebrity
Lmao, have sex nerd. Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
ahahahahohohoho a dyel who won't post his body calls others dyels ahahahohoho what a funny situation
>now I'll just completely abandon the topic at hand and try to shift focus onto you personally!
have a nice day incel
Looking kinda gay bro
perhaps the next time you go to the gym you should try something else than just bicep curls you mentally unstable twink
Both of you look like such shit that you can not and will not post even your wrists because even THEY are indicative of your shit, grotesque body. Cmon lil cellys. Prove me wrong. Post wrist. It's just a wrist :^)
Black person, post a pic taken with an actual camera instead a potato first, then try to talk shit.
>no wrist pic
Hahahahaha holy shit how absolutely PATHETIC. I mean seriously, how shit do you have to look for your fricking WRISTS to tell the story?
I have 8 inch wrists lol. Keep coping, potato boy.
>no pic
>still seething
>just trust me bro!
>look average
>get mad people say you look average
K.
>looks like such shit he can't even post wrists
All anyone needs to know about you
>blurry as shit pic
>still looks noticeable smaller and fatter than the old man in the pic
If you were trying to convince us that the OP is on a full blast, congrats. You did it.
>i didn't post my body because i'm not 6'3"
>but instead to prove my point i posted a body of my favorite 5'7" e-celbebrity
>keeps calling people stupid
pot, meet kettle
also you're small irl
I was going to give you a serious reply, but then I saw this post
post and realized you are a troll or mentally handicapped. Either way, good day, homosexual.
Cope harder incel. When you inevitably have a nice day, please do it with a knife so you don't become another gun statistic to be used be the left
Maybe he just responded really well to it or had prior lifting experience
He said he used to be a Pro basketball player
Not him but
>UHMMM ACKSHUALLY ONLY TROONLYMPIA PHYSIQUES ARE LEAN
You're mentally ill and you have body dysmorphia.
OP's dude is BLASTING, not just using TRT.
You're so fricking gullible it's actually funny.
>Not every notable bodybuilder is an "e-celebrity"
You literally only posted ecelebs that are on a shitload of gear.
ACKSHUALLY ONLY TROONLYMPIA PHYSIQUES ARE LEAN
>You're mentally ill and you have body dysmorphia
See first part of
See second part of
and all of
>ecelebs
See second part of
>>but instead to prove my point i posted a body of my favorite 5'7" e-celbebrity
Calum Von Moger is 6'2 you stupid frick hahahahahahahah
>no rebuttal
Get rekt incel. see
>nothing about his physique that is indicative of anything other than TRT
>proceeds by posting obvious roidtroons blasting grams of gear
Eh?
Me
>guy in OP isn't on gear
>this is what being 6'3, 250 and on gear looks like
You
>durrrr y r u posting troops hurrrr
Kys moron
ACK
>source: israelite science articles
lol @ reddit dyels
>30%bf
>goes on TRT
Shouldn't be allowed. Go fricking run first
he's literally roiding
Gonna cry?
and he mogs you
All these DYEL incels saying he's on more than just TRT... how pathetic. You are literally trying so hard to lower the bar so you can make excuses as to why you look like shit. "This is just how naturals look bro" hahahahaha no, you just workout like a pussy. I see you losers in the gym everyday. You all just use cables/machines and when you use free weights you look goofy as frick
Daily Reminder pic related is natural and was randomly drug tested for both steroids and hormone fluctuations for a whole year and tested his 1rm both before, during, and after the test period as well as took pictures of his physique and ended up gaining a small amount of strength and his physique never changed
Cope and seethe you weird coping incels and hurry up and have a nice day. You're all genetic failures both physically and mentally. Don't reply, just grab a knife and ram it into your chest or blow your brains out after reading this
>pic related is natural
because I don't know a reliable provider in Spain
I've been on 100mg every OTHER week for 12 months and apparently the boys can swim good enough to pass this at home motility test.
Some anon on here said that this is such a low dose to even worry about fertility.
Can someone else confirm this?
Yes that is a low dose, increase both frequency and dose.
Do at least 50mg twice a week so you get 100 every week
At what dose/frequency do I need to worry about fertility?
At my current dose I feel a lot better than before I started taking it
yes, that dose is super fricking low, and honestly doing every other week is stupid too because you will have big fluctuations in release/use of hormones instead of having stable levels
>right is 53
Holy shit I'm 20 years younger than that guy and I feel old
But I'm not old at all
God it feels good to be a tall high IQ muscular White man
Everything's gonna be fine
Too poor.
I'll think about it when I'm like 55-60 if I ever make it, I have too many health problems I'm thinking about ending it at 40-45
>53
>half a century old
very simple
the body lives on a cycle, test makes you aggressive and make rash decisions, at 53, you need to have low test, because your body is literally a fricking husk and you can't be doing the same kind of stupid shit you were doing in your teens
Based israelites tricking some more manlet incels on IST into becoming transgenders via the well known roids to troony pipeline. Get these short kings out of the gene pool!
I'm not a troony
Man I'm for him unfricking his shit so well. But bros imagine if you never let yourself go in the first place. Once you make it please maintain and control yourselves. Try Mentzer and Steeve Reeves ideas on programming. I'm kind of doing my own thing, more like Mentzer's program and have never felt better tbh, no strength lost.
Will I grow a beard on TRT?
This just shows that if you're hot then you're hot fat or fit. I'd let him frick my bussy before and after. I'd have a three way spit roast with both at the same time. I'd enjoy topping both, and I would like topping right more.
least perverted homosexual
I just ran a cycle of Rad and my test levels came back as 6. There is no test in my body at all.
Is TRT in my future?
hey at least its not 0
Did you PCT at all?
the difference between natty and 300mg test """"""""""""""""TRT""""""""""""""""" is bigger than the difference between 300mg test and blasting tren
you can actually build an incredible physique on that amount of test. Most people won't be able to, or will require a bunch of other blasts, but 300mg of test can hold a shit load of muscle, even when lean. Natural lifting is a joke when you realize 300mg of test has virtually no sides if you don't have dogshit acne/blood pressure genetics
does 300 really have no sides
Depends if you are prone to male pattern baldness, in which case it will accelerate the hair loss you would experience eventually even as a natty.
why would someone get ab implants
it looks pathetic