Why do Americans need to eat keto and still be fat while Europeans can eat carbs and remain healthy?
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Why do Americans need to eat keto and still be fat while Europeans can eat carbs and remain healthy?
Nobody thinks youre asking a genuine question, moxyte.
American government told people to eat a low-fat diet. This results is eating more carbs. Carbs are fattening, thus the obesity epidemic.
> American government told people to eat a low-fat diet. This results is eating more carbs. Carbs are fattening, thus the obesity epidemic.
i still dont know what keto is and will leave this thread now
>t. european
I don't even care about the bait or diet shit but an american visiting a singular european country then make a statement on all europeans will never not be funny.
It's a fake story written by a vegan. Much of leftwing propaganda takes a storytelling format like that.
much of all propaganda takes a storytelling format because it's incredibly effective in general, dumbass
what do you think a parable is
moxyte thread detected
What the frick even is the point of threads like this? Literally no one but fricking moxyte talks about keto. Ketolard this, ketoschizo that. Honestly it's amazing that Moxyte isn't a *paid* shill. He does this shit for free.
>tfw some doofus is still using my somewhat lame meme to roast the grainbrain
Feels good man
>Honestly it's amazing that Moxyte isn't a *paid* shill. He does this shit for free.
This is why they push plant-based diets. It turns goys into braindead golems who work tirelessly for free.
I loved the local retorts string array in that regarded meme
I wish there were more veganschizo memes so I can spam even more of them in moxyte threads
americans try to eat normally challenge difficulty impossible
Our food is not your food.
You're filling everything with hfcs and seed oils, even drinks.
That's all.
They eat a lot of calories and sit on their asses a lot
t. Never been to America but it makes sense
Because the carbs in Europe aren't filled to the brim with sugar, cancer, more sugar and syrup and even more unnatural dogshit ingredients.
So the burger had insulin issues and keto could of benefit, though low-carb is the same shit and could help as well.
t. went to europe and a pizza surprisingly doesn't taste like fricking CAKE
I just came back from italy. They don't fricking eat protein. All they eat are refined grains and cigarettes. The woman are 20% bodyfat and unmuscled-- delicious. The men are 20% bodyfat and unmuscled-- fricking disgusting.
>went to europe and a pizza surprisingly doesn't taste like fricking CAKE
What is referred to as "white bread" in the US, the rest of the world calls "sweet bread". There's mainly two kinds of bread on the shelves at the US grocery, "white" (sweet), and whole wheat. There is no true white bread unless you make it yourself. Even the artesian white breads are just sweet bread again, except in a circle. The whole thing is fricking bazaar.
>Water, Flour, Yeast, Salt.
That is what's in bread.
Then there's this (pic)
I can promise you other countries do in fact use ingredients like yeast and starch in their bread but legally do not have to list all of that shit. You can find identical brand products in Europe with less ingredients listed, and it's obviously not because they for some reason decided to change their recipes abroad, it's because there is different laws. You idiots always act like this isn't the case when shit is blatant as hell.
Also who knows what that label you posted is actually for.
pretty sure he was pointing out the HFCS at the top of the list
>Also who knows what that label you posted is actually for.
https://www.730sagestreet.com/wonder-bread-ingredients/
>wonder bread
So not regular bread then?
Wonderbread isn't normal bread you disingenuous nerd.
It is classic american bread. the most famous american bread brand. what the frick are you on about?
It's literally not sold as regular bread. It's enriched bread.
>I can promise you other countries do in fact use ingredients like yeast and starch in their bread but legally do not have to list all of that shit.
How about sneed oils?
How do you think bread factories in other countries stop bread from sticking to their pans you gay moron?
>and it's obviously not because they for some reason decided to change their recipes abroad
This is actually exactly what happens. Heinz ketchup and haggen dazs are good examples of this.
And if you thought for a second that the US has more and better regulations regarding food and ingredients listing, you are delusional beyond hope.
The US does, it's well known, and you're a shill. You are probably from a country with rampant pollution and microplastics as well. Tonnes of larger countries like China, India, Brazil, etc. blatantly use anything from gutter oil to unfiltered water in their cooking but you shitposters focus on America insisting American food products are all poisoned but suspiciously list their poisonous ingredients? All while maintaining one of the highest standards of living and continuously attracting talent from all over the world (brain draining those countries I previously list) and having the most respected global universities? And why would they poison their population again? Did you really think nobody would find the craziness of this all suspicious?
Choke on smog you fricking thirdy.
It's pretty normal for bread to have a bit of sugar added to it as food for the yeast either during a preferment or when the dough is initially mixed. Adding oil to bread is also pretty normal at least for enriched doughs that you want a fair bit more tender. A pretty good example of this would be Challah, although that's also something that you probably shouldn't be eating on a daily basis.
Because our carbs are not your carbs you moron.
You have corn syrup in your bread.
This has nothing to do with "keto". I think this is another Moxyte thread.
>I think this is another Moxyte thread.
You think correctly. As IST's top moxyte expert I can guarantee this is a moxyte thread.
I think I missed the lore here lel
Please explain the origins of moxyte caricature look on the left (not the israelite) Mr. Veganschizo Slayer expert
Also I want to expand my anti-mox*te folder mind share some of them
One of this redditard's seldom used memes had a "ketoschizo" and a "carb EAGLE", paradoxically depicting the former with the fat "ketoschizo" head but somehow having a ghastly thin body, while depicting the "carb eagle" as a bald eagle... A raptor species whose diet consists of fish, lesser waterfowl, and rodents.
>France
Two things. One they're not eating carbohydrates in the same way Americans do. They have a single croissant for breakfast then load up on cheese and meats and bread and wine for lunch then smoke the rest of the day. Meanwhile fatties in America can get 1000 calories in a chicken biscuit, 2000 calories in a fast food meal for lunch, and 2000 calories with pasta heavy dinner and dessert. They just don't eat as much processed convenient shit in France.
They still do just not as much. McDonald's is the most popular food chain in France
Americans don't "need" to eat keto, they just want to eat fattening foods while convincing themselves they are healthy.
>fattening foods
there is no such thing. you could lose weight eating twinkies or ice cream it doesnt matter
>Babbys first day of nutrition class
No one “needs” to do keto to lose weight. A low carb diet can work just as well as keto, and it’s much easier to accomplish that.
The idea that you can’t eat any carbs for a successful diet is a meme, and it often backfires once people go back to their high carb habits.
>it often backfires once people go back to their high carb habits.
eat high carb garbage and get fat.
remove what makes you fat, namely carbs, lose weight.
go back to eating carbs and get fat again: NOOOOO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!!!
The issue here is what lever should be pulled to adjust body fat. Calories, or carbs?
When people figure out that calories are irrelevant and it is all about carbs they inevitably start trying extreme approaches like keto or zero carb which work great. More moderate carb restriction works too but I don't see any reason to not just rush to the finish line with keto and then experiment with low-carb for long term maintenance.
>The issue here is what lever should be pulled to adjust body fat. Calories, or carbs?
Neither. The lever you actually pull is called Insulin, carb control is just one way of grabbing it. This is also why basically nobody on IST discusses keto anymore other than that moxyte dude screaming about it, because /fasting/ is now the preferred method.
Fasting and then eating carbs is silly.
Fasting and carnivore are complementary.
Americans will invent endless fad diets that allow them to still eat giant portions because they are greedy disgusting pigs with no concept of self restraint, so simply early smaller portions is unthinkable to them.
I use copious amounts of cream and butter.
like 500ml of cream for a regular pasta dish.
aint using flour or other stuff to thicken sauces. I use butter for it.
every meal is full of animal fat.
my wife is 175cm and weighs 55kg.
I am 181cm and weigh 93kg. ~15-20% bf. very muscular.
fat clearly isnt the issue.
we also eat lots of carbs daily so carbs aint it either.
I wondered about this for a very long time. my sister studied abroad in the US and came back a whale. she was very slim here. 1 fricking year in the US made her a whale and she never recovered.
either its extremely bad eating habits or the food additives from american food frick your body up permanently. its the only explanation I could come up with.
amerilads, there is some frickery with your food fr fr
Amerifit here, I am convinced they are dumping poison in the food. And I don’t mean pesticides and herbicides while plants are growing (they do that too), I mean straight up dumping black bags marked “XX poison” into the food before marketing it.
I prepare all of my meals from scratch and use USDA organic ingredients so it doesn’t affect me. They also poison the water so I distill my water religiously and bring it with me everywhere
because euros are cut throat genocidal maniacs
there are no more disgusting peopleon the planet than europeans and their internatonal derivatives in the americas
lowest of the low, complete garbage sub humans
Good for this Redditor. I'm surrounded my white trash buttholes who b***h and moan about America and other white people while never leaving the country and they only want to leave the country to do hardcore drugs in some jungle that's barely better than being a sex tourist honestly it's worse because the drugs make you drool and piss your pants in a cot like a cuck
while there's plenty to be said on processed foods and high fructose corn syrup and the like, it's also important to remember that the median american lifestyle is roughly
>wake up in air-conditioned bedroom
>get into giant air-conditioned SUV
>drive to air-conditioned office building
>take elevator to office
>sit at desk for 8 hours
>pick up fast food dinner at drive-thru on the drive home
they don't fricking walk
Walking is the biggest thing, in my opinion. You get a lot more leeway with your diet if you're walking a lot.
Sitting all day is the worst.
I've been cutting weight for about a year now, and I nearly threw up when I tried some cake from a grocery store a couple months back. I guess you just get used to the sugar, but when you cut it out for a while, it's a real shock.
Damn near everything is drive through or curbside pickup now. You don't even have to walk for grocery shopping anymore.
I once met a guy from rural NY who said his town had a drive through liquor store attached to a strip club. Sadly, the strip club was not also drive through.
It's kind of cool, but also very bad for us.
So why is the UK also full of fat c**ts, Klaus Schwab?
They drink beer and their takeaway culture is all processed/over fried shit just like us.
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It's really more that americans eat absolutely gigantic portions of food at a time without ever thinking that they should reduce the amount to at least two thirds or a half. Their food also contains huge amounts of fat and sugar, anybody who came from elsewhere can taste just how loaded american food is with those two things because it's so overwhelming if you are not used to it.
Europe has walkable cities and towns. People walk everywhere. In america they have drive through coffee shops.
I'd be surprised if the average europoor citydweller walks 5km a day, yet alone 10. If you need to get somewhere, you walk to a tram or metro station instead of to your car. You don't automatically move that much in le walkable city unless you make an effort to do so. We're just less gluttonous, that's it. And let's not forget that euros are fat as frick anyway. Only by mutt standards can you call people here even remotely slim. You need to aim higher than slightly less obese. Have some self-respect.
>Europeans can eat carbs and remain healthy?
This is just a myth. People in Europe have been getting ever fatter for the last forty years just like everywhere else in the world. You go out in the street and almost everyone is visibly overweight. It's just that in the US your society is even more degenerate.
You're thinking of Asia. Europe is fat like the US.
The lack of awareness you whites have is astounding.
Americans are the quintessential self-help, fad diet, pill-popping pseuds. All they want is a quick fix, a fad, something they can talk about and feel unique about. Anything but hard work and self reflection.
Genuine question, why do you guys act like Americans are even the fattest? Many Latin American countries like Mexico and Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia are actually fatter. Most Western Europe countries are at most 10 years behind the US, countries like the UK might actually pass the US soon. Even China, though they hide their stats, occasionally slips and reveals they have higher diabetes rates than the US meaning even East Asian countries are climbing up there too.
But you only ever talk about the US and what it implies for the US, what's up with that?
Y'all Blacks get real quiet when someone points this out.
Amazing, truely amazing. This is clearly a shill thread because everyone shuts the frick up when this is called out.
You're full of shit thougheverbeit. There is only 1 (one) non-meme country that's fatter than you. Outside of keeping the oil flowing nobody anywhere gives a single frick about Kuwait, or any other mena c**t for that matter. For all practical purposes, you ARE the fattest. Cope & seethe.
You can shut the frick up now.
To begin with I don't even know what your source is or if it's legit, but why didn't you search by overweight instead of obese?
Typical American obliviousness.
America is the richest country and for 80 years has pushed itself on the world through aggressive foreign wars and pulling puppet strings. All the while championing itself as the best, the most free and the most well off.
And now you find yourselves hated around the world, your population obese, hooked on pharmaceuticals, spiritually dead, emotionally hollow and rejecting basic family values and tradition and choosing materialism and base territoriality over community spirit. All the while pushing these “values” on others. And you wonder why people focus on your abject country kek go take a knee for Israel
Okay chink. Keep trying to raise that social credit score and maybe Xi will award you with a wife.
This is the most intelligent reply an Amerilard is capable of coming up with and its pathetic.
The utility of carbs as major part of diet is proportionate to activity. Less activity less carbs and less calories in general are required. Europe's obesity rate is currently surging from people getting at home jobs and large cities basically making everyone feel unsafe leaving their neighborhood.
Does any of you fitizens even take the time to cook your food from raw ingredients? Does anyone here bakes his own bread using sourdough?
Convenience food is killing everything it touches, it is filled usually with additives that makes everything mire addictive, cheaper and longer storeable.
I can't make everything I eat myself but if I could I would do it. Fact: most people can't cook for shit
You also have to consider that a lot of Americans have partly latino, Native DNA. Those people have dogshit metabolism genetics.
tbh I'm euro and overweight but my genetics are literally made for lifting i was always the strongest person I've known
first time i ever went to a gym at 16 i did 3pl8 deadlift for reps and squatted 2pl8 full depth
my ohp was 55kg 1rm
my only weakness and still weakest lift in comparison was the bench press
Fat people are attracted to keto because it can quickly melt away weight, if practiced properly. They'll try to adhere to it but meal planning, portion control, calorie counting and impulse control are all totally foreign skills to the average butterball.
Losing weight is as simple as eat less, but they don't want to do that. Anything but that.
american food has fewer regulations, worse quality ingredients, it's calorically dense, it's designed to be addictive etc. rampant capitalism basically. but ISTners will cry "goyslop" and blame le israelites
the fat you eat is the fat that you wear
Because they're not, they're still skinnyfat at the very least guaranteed, very few people have an actually decent body composition, in other words low bodyfat with some muscle.