It seems like people who try one are highly likely to try the other simultaneously.
What is the connection?
Why do fasting and keto so often go together?
It seems like people who try one are highly likely to try the other simultaneously.
What is the connection?
They want a way to feel like they're better than you because they have secret esoteric knowledge. If they did have that knowledge they'd never touch keto
You stupid morons should all read what none other than Hippokrates of Kos advised when it comes to fasting. Fasting is natural, especially if you're I'll or want to detox your body. A dog which is ill doesn't eat as it nourishes the illness as well.
Pythagoras made 40 day fasting a requirement for entering his secret religion, as only then you could even have the mental capacity to grasp high IQ knowledge without an ill riddled mind or body.
Your ancestors hunted mammuts for days in a fasted state, there were no refrigerators. Evolution is slow.
And by the way, it was John Kellog who said breakfast is the most important meal, and israelites have been pushing that message to hinder the white man.
If you're not at least living an intermittent fasting lifestyle you're doing something very wrong to your bodies.
You are moronic. How are you going to "detox your body" while trying to kill your liver by eliminating any kind of fuel it can use to function properly
I swear you people are braindead
Study autophagy, which translates into 'the body eats itself' - it basically recycles the bad parts of your cells. A guy in 2016 got the Nobel prize for that proof, but it was kept silent as fasting makes no money for israelites and israelites also don't want the white men to flourish.
Also, nobody knows your body better than your body. If you do extended fasting the fat breaks down into exactly what your body needs and wants, you're basically fueling it with the perfectly adapted food based on your genetics.
And yes, there is not a single person living on this earth who could even come close to the knowledge of Hippokrates when it comes to the human body. It's not even a debate, extended fasting from time to time has only benefits. You can find all texts on archive.org for free, it's very enlightening.
I suggest you study everything else related to metabolism instead, since you're talking out of your ass and are clearly unaware of what actually happens during the processes you speak of, mister esoteric scholar. Your old greek homosexual can suck my dick
I only need to study what's written in between your the lines of your reply to see an angry kid who has lost the argument.
Healthier nutrition means healthier metabolism. Breaking down and renewing old things from stored fat into healthier, newer things means being healthier. Give the machine a body is a rest when it comes to digesting, repairing gut flora means healthier metabolism, longevity, more Human Growth Hormone, also Ketosis for your brain, clearness instead of fog - but you have to experience it to believe it nowadays.
And the Greek philosophers would have definitely sucked your small little kiddie wiener, they loved their male and female slaves.
>appeal to antiquity
Pythagoreans killed a guy for proving the existence of irrational numbers, guy was a hack fraud
I only eat protein cause I enjoy lifting and having a lot of muscle. I'd probably be a vegan tard if I was looking to just solely be skinny.
that man is a convicted child molestor
http://www.the-sidebar.com/2023/01/keto-influencer-james-jimmy-moore.html
this is what keto does, it molests kids
Kys Moxyte
Look how mad the resident keto autist gets when you laugh at her hairloss meme redditor diet lol!!
She's here all day every too. What a life!
Kys Moxyte
Yeah of course it's up. http://Sneed.today
Well now I know who they are. God damn dude no fricking life at all.
I'm (OP) not that person.
I just curious why everyone doing this diet ends up also doing some crazy fasting protocol.
Because you stop feeling hunger as intensly all the time so it's a lot easier to try fasting.
>why would someone interested in losing weight try multiple methods of losing weight?
this anon has a huge brain
kek
i feel so good on keto i forget to eat because i have tons of energy to work on projects and train
Always knew he was sneaking sweets
>fasting causes the body to use ketones
>keto diet causes the body to use ketones
gee I wonder what could be the connection
I was overweight from 7yrs old, combining these 2 was the first thing I've tried that has actually made my abs show.
Just don't do it long term, simple as.
fat fricks love the idea of "one simple trick" to solve their issues
Eating less is one simple trick.
And it solves the issue
This. Fatties would rather search high and low for "cheat codes" to keep their shitty eating habits rather than eat healthy and do the bare minimum amount of cardio.
DEAD OMAD HIT
takes 1-2hrs a day, it pretty much is a cheat code
Fasting obviously works because it's literally CICO with CI ~0.
If I do OMAD I will be in ketosis before the next meal, ketosis suppresses my appetite and if I break ketosis I get diarrhea so might as well just stay in.
For one, many people who try keto are trying to lose weight, and one of the best ways to lose weight is not eating (fasting). Aside from that, people who are running off of fat based metabolisms find it a lot easier to skip meals or go longer periods without eating than someone on a super carb heavy diet. That isn't to say you can't eat carbs or that there aren't plenty of people who do omad with carbs in their diet though, plenty of people fast and eat carbs too. It just makes it easier since your body is closer to a fasting state already if you are eating low carb.
Cultbrained NPC's who are constantly in search of new gimmicks to get the religion tingle in their defective brains.
>religion tingle
nice word
>keto makes it impossible to gain weight
>also go on 3 day fasting binges every week so you don't gain weight
>looks like jimmy moore
You don't need to fast if you're a big boy who gets his fiber, pic very much related
kys moxyte
why the frick would anyone take diet or health advice from that fat frick?
why are people so willing to just obviously lie to themselves?
im not a vegan or anything, but it's common sense keto and fasting are both horrible fuds for moronic masses.
all smart people realize immediatey there is something horribly wrong about these fuds. every moron is trying them, yet 95% of these people fail to lose weight long term.
how about then vegans are always thin? how about billion asians were always thin eating only white rice? hmmm,,,, ! no glucose bad, fat good! it must be!?
none on these people of masses who fail to lose weight can put 1+1 together they keep avoiding carbs and eating fat. fat is only way humans can gain weight as laboratory tests prove this, carbs are burnt as heat even in larger daily caloric excess
Veganism is clearly evil and bad for you.
Which groups are most commonly vegan? israelites. Liberals. Women. That should tell you all you need to know. If the educated evil elite are vegan, we need to do the opposite
>educated
yes...
>elite
keep going...
>evil
ah yes, slave morality. meatcucks are so low status they can't even handle it without a mental breakdown so they invert their whole value system
based carb Chad
I eat a little meat but I basically treat it as a vitamin/mineral supplement
Can of beans/day for the aminos. At least one big bowl of rice. Oatmeal and fruit breakfast. A big Jiffy cornbread (costs <$1 counting the milk and egg). Maybe a couple taters. That's good eatin'. Drink milk and have the odd can of deenz or mackerel and you're golden
I honestly pity carb neglecters. They're alive but they're not living
Carbs give me alot of energy but I like to exercise alot
jesus christ what a moronic take. please educate yourself anon
>keto and fasting are both horrible fuds for moronic masses
You're right, insofar as the shitty processed "keto" foods popping up in the past few years.
>yet 95% of these people fail to lose weight long term
Maybe it's because those are the same people who "cheat" all the time, just like literally any other diet.
>vegans are always thin
It's funny because they're all skinny fat, and any "vegan" bodybuilders are either roiding, not vegan, or (most likely) both.
>billion asians were always thin eating only white rice
That's exactly how the Chinese defended their land against the meat and dairy eating Mongols.
>fat good
Yes.
>fat is only way humans can gain weight as laboratory tests prove this
Citation needed.
>carbs are burnt as heat even in larger daily caloric excess
Look up Lipogenesis.
>You're right, insofar as the shitty processed "keto" foods popping up in the past few years.
Yeah, it's the same shit that happened to veganism. Fat vegans were virtually non-existent when vegans had to cook EVERYTHING themselves and usually from scratch. Even if it was theoretically possible to stay a fat frick by eating a frickton of pasta, in practice it didn't happen.
Same thing with ketogays: it *is* possible to stay yuge eating 3 lbs of porterhouse per day Yet when keto was niche and people were deprived from the temptations of slop, forcing them to actually think about their nutrition... they magically lost weight.
>he didn't gatekeep his diet from fat people
>his diet is now promoted by fat people
gee i wonder why
It's also really hard to gain excess weight unless you really force yourself to eat, especially while doing OMAD too. I was still losing weight while eating past satiety on steak and bacon, and I wasn't a massive lardass at the time either.
>it *is* possible to stay yuge eating 3 lbs of porterhouse per day
No it isn't.
Wrong. No insulin spikes = no body fat gained
>if I drink 6000 calories of oil I won't gain a gram
If it's animal fats just like our ancestors ate, you won't, just like they didn't
Lol okay sure. Absolute insanity.
If you couldn't gain weight on animal fats we would have died out in low foliage winters. Also pre-domestication animals were extremely lean. Please educate yourself.
I accept your concession
post physique
physique
Insulin isn’t a fat storage hormon you absolute moron. All it does is hinder lipolysis (fat release) a little bit but has zero effect on your cells sucking up the fat from your veins.
Fasting is not a fad. Intermittent fasting is but just not eating for a while is really normal throughout history.
This is a tucking pathology however. I used keto one (1) time to get through a plateau and it worked. Never once did I eat more than two eggs or so at a time and just wtf
>fasting is… le BAD
I’ve heard enough. Next you’ll say cardio kills.
I lost most of my weight eating nearly no fat and high carbs. Rice. Potato. Bread. Lentils. Here's the thing. You will eventually reach a point where you realize you can very much gain weight on nothing but carbs. It's not magic. Eating too much will lead to weight gain. That said, most people would easily lose weight eating all the carbs they wanted to if they avoided fat.
its almost like a function of the body to produce ketones when you're not eating food...
The connection is pretty obvious. They're both weight loss strategies that are popular right now. Smoking and coffee was once the same way.
There's some overlap, but the people into caveman stuff from keto and spiritual stuff from fasting are pretty far apart.
My brain works way better when I water fast. I can remember so much shit that I can't when I'm on a normal balanced diet.
Kiwifarms is still up? Because that's where I'm guessing you discovered this guy.
Maybe because fasting puts you in ketosis?
because you need a minimum of protein and fat for body recomp, carbs are the easiest to remove to meet caloric deficit and then you introduce them back during maintenance cheat days
>fat for body recomp
Fat is the least useful macro for recomp.
Protein is obvious.
Carbs replenish glycogen and reduce muscle protein breakdown.
>Carbs replenish glycogen and reduce muscle protein breakdown
Protein does both of these better than carbs
>Fat is the least useful macro for recomp.
need fat and cholesterol for hormones, recomp needs all the testosterone you can throw at it
>Eat 6000 calories in one day
>fast the next day
>don't exercise
>repeat the cycle
>get fat while grifting
I think I found the problem. It doesn't matter if you go into ketosis if you're overeating.
protein = muscle, turns into glycogen
fat = hormones, turns into glycogen
carbs = turns into glycogen
People want a magic pill and will bounce from magic pill to magic pill
Keto only works for weightloss if you are fasting. If you eat even 1 Calorie above maintenance, you will quickly gain weight. Your body doesn't even have to convert the fat, just store it.
Neither work so they combine them because they feel lost when not listening to internet memes.
Has anyone done a cyclical keto diet for fat loss?
yeah it's called eating more on workout days and eating less on rest days
No you fricking moron, I meant deliberately going keto 5 days a week and then high carb (glucose) low fat 2 days for glucose super compensation. Not some reddit tier response of just eat more when you work out
that's just CICO with extra steps morty
delicious!
Both work and have obvious and quick results, wheras veganism takes 5 years to kill you and all the while your teeth and hair fall out and you perpetually crave meat while whining about people who eat healthy on IST to your reddit blog
>if you don't eat only meat, you must eat only plants!
the world must be so simple for autists
keto = low insulin
fasting = low insulin
pretty obvious stuff
>keto = low insulin
>fasting = low insulin
ozempic = high insulin--oops
ozempic lowers insulin auc
Because low carb doesn't work so they meme you into consuming zero calories for like 2 days and tell you its the low carb
>Because low fat doesn't work so they meme you into consuming zero calories for like 2 days and tell you its the low fat
ftfy
Fasting gets you into a state of ketosis. Eating keto for a few days before starting a long fast makes it easier because you get into ketosis before you starve yourself. So naturally they work well together.
Keto:
Dehydration
Hairloss
Muscle atrophy
Hypervitaminosis
Organ damage
Brainfog
Cultist-like mentality
Nutrient deficiencies
GERD
CICO but with more nuance
>Dehydration
water + salt potassium magnesium
>Hairloss
eggs
>Muscle atrophy
HIT
>Hypervitaminosis
OMAD also takes care of calcium deposits
>Organ damage
meme
>Brainfog
disodium EDTA
>Cultist-like mentality
most people in general have this
>Nutrient deficiencies
eggs
>GERD
don't be fat
>CICO but with more nuance
count your eggs per day
>just supplement everything to do this diet
Hahaha no
yes
Oh hey its laxative bro
>i don't know how to measure powder so they're all laxatives to me
lole
You know who you are.
after i ordered, the 10% coupon turned into a 20% one so i canceled and reordered
lol amazon
This is serious eating disorder type behavior. You could literally just eat a potato an an apple but nooo gotta be in ketosis
>eat a potato and an apple
literally did with my 12 eggs yesterday
r u psychic
Ive probably also developed an eating disorder, cause I am pretty addicted to seeing the weight just fall off.
Once I hit my goal though I am never doing this shit again, 2000cal from there on out.
>2000cal from there on out.
would rather do 45min of HIT, sit on ass rest of day, eat my TDEE in one meal
Thats an ED bud
if my eating is disordered then i don't want to bring it order
fresh meat has enough vitamin C. excess vit C can convert to oxalate and cause problems
You dont have access to fresh meat
i can eat nothing but meat and never get scurvy. its clearly fresh enough
Bros I want to chug eggs like this so bad but I'm American and scared of the salmonellis.
>Nutrient deficiencies
>eggs
Don't forget organ meat.
You feel full on keto most of the time, so why not just fast
Friendly reminder that Jimmy Moore is currently in prison for raping a 13 year old girl.
> I like my girls the same as my carbs: under 20.
>No carbs
>Glycogen depletion
doesnt happen. protein is better for glycogen
Ah yes, that's why all the tour de france riders are eating bucket loads of protein to keep energized, oh wait LOL they aren't. Their shit is all sugar based.
offtopic because nobody wants to look like a tour de france rider
They both have some similar effects. Fasting can cause ketosis because your body will start burning its fat when you run out of glucose.
if you "ran out of glucose" youd be dead. your body is constantly using and making glucose
fasting kickstarts keto
>moxyte took a new screenshot
This is the most high-effort post moxyte has made in a year.
anyone had fried butter with pork rind breading?
A video on the benefits of Fasting:
My obese roommate tried keto for about 3 days and before he started eating fast-food burgers again. Fats want a cheat code, when they just need discipline.
keto makes you feel so bad you'd rather just not eat.
low-carb morons don't understand the consequences of high cortisol and will reap what they sow
It's because morons of a feather flock together