I can't help but notice that all the wealthy countries are on the right and all the poor ones on the left. Almost as if this graph is actuallly just showing the quality of the health service.
>Dairy
Miss me with that shit. >Meat, eggs
The foundation of my diet, but then again I'm not gay, YMMV. >Salt
The "science" telling you to avoid salt is based on horrific shit being done to mice. You need salt, especially if you're active. It also makes food taste amazing. >World's oldest foods >no fish, fruit, or fungus
There are two types of people in the world; those who eat deenz, and those who are NGMI.
I eat grass fed beef, bison, elk, ostrich, and alligator every day. Eggs? I go full GASTON MODE every morning. All I eat is meat, beans, 'n greens. My protein farts will choke the heresy from your lips.
My opinion is that none of them are bad when you don't gorge on starch, fat and sugar on the side. But people love their bread, pasta, pastries, soda and desserts. Then they take meds for heart, bp, cholesterol, etc.
This. The path to hell is paved with sugar and sneed.
>The "science" telling you to avoid salt is based on horrific shit being done to mice. You need salt, especially if you're active. It also makes food taste amazing.
Your mice argument no longer relevant,. Since that experiment, a few centuries passed and we have WEALTH of real-life info on how salt affects the body of those and overindulge.
Protip - in an extremely terrible way. It is not a guessing game ,just basic frickign chemistry you flat-earther moron.
low sodium has higher associated risks than high sodium. youve only been told one side of the story >Implicit in these guidelines is the assumption that there is no unsafe lower limit of sodium intake. However, sodium is known to play a critical role in normal human physiology, and activation of the renin–angiotensin-aldosterone system occurs when sodium intake falls below approximately 3.0 g per day.
This is why they're the sickest and most deformed population in the planet.
Vegetarianism is literally the cause of so many grotesque birth defects and other abominations.
Plants lack over 15 micro-nootrients critical for proper development.
Because they want you dumb and easier to control. Check out Naturalnews.com for all the shit in food that causes cancer or brain damage or just plain faked data in fake studies that have been revealed. Looking into nutrition science is like baby's first redpill. All your investigation going forward will show you they want us crippled and permanently paying doctors, dumb and easy to control, or dead.
Unironically true, most studies that claim "x food causes xyz" (usually cancer) test for a bajillion different diseases/disorders so at the very least one or two stick by sheer chance
>mouth-breather reads one article on the replication crisis and thinks he's unlocked the door of soience doom
There's plenty of replication going on. Few people cared about woke and low-impact psychology 'research' anyway.
Our ancestors ate that shit and they died of old age at 22
Maybe we should eat food that’s SCIENTIFICALLY designed to be healthy and nutritious instead of shit that people ate because there was nothing else
>Our ancestors ate that shit and they died of old age at 22
False, too many examples of old people
Only the fittest would survive, which leads to artificially inflated life expectancy, not the other way around. Modern nutrition is what allows those genetically inferior babies to survive into adulthood.
Despite having access to billions of encyclopedias' worth of information in mere seconds we're still doomed to hear morons spouting drivel like this for the rest of our lives, aren't we? I wish all stupid people would just drop dead already.
they died because they drank dirty water, didn't wash their hands, basic sickness had no cure, we didn't have cities protecting us from nature, high infant mortality, we didn't have an easy way to share which plants and which animals were poison
>didn't wash their hands
That's also a myth. Even medieval peasantry kept themselves clean when they could. It was common mostly the lack of medical advancement and plethora of diseases that would kill young people. But if you got in your 20s and didn't catch sepsis or plague in the meantime, you lived 80+. Also cities back then were much more dirtier then the countryside and more dangerous.
>75% infant mortality rate >Natural lifespan is 80 >mean average is 20 >TRUST TGE HECKIN SCIENCERINO homosexuals like (you) believe, and parrot, the lie that 20 was a ripe old age
>butter
Pointless and nutritionless fats, anglos will seethe >meat
Healthy >raw milk
Fricking boil that shit or you gonna get sick you fricking moronic Black person >salt
Salt is based, just dont be a Black person with it >non pasteurized diary
Similar to raw milk >cholesterol
Eating no cholesterol is bad too, its necessart for hormonal balance and arthery elasticity, same as salt, dont be a Black person about it either >conclusion
Boomers are moronic
You're talking out your ass, raw milk will not get you sick, unless it was produced under poor conditions, people getting sick off of raw milk is so rare the feds jump at the chance to get the offending farm shut down, it's because they want you sick and dead drinking pasteurized and homogenized garbage, Victor Rothschild who only spoke twice in his whole life at the house of lords had only opened his mouth for the state of Israel and milk pasteurization, that's because he knew through current research that it makes mice infertile, and it had the added benefit of putting small farmers out of business.
>Eating no cholesterol is bad too, its necessart for hormonal balance and arthery elasticity, same as salt, dont be a Black person about it either
Ketards and meat clowns agree that dietary cholesterol makes little difference to blood cholesterol. Its measured in microscopically tiny amounts that vary greatly based on time of day, fasting status, hydration status. And then the usual test is an averaged guess. Your body makes all the cholesterol you need. Want to live a long time? Dont eat too much of anything, carbs (AGEs, IGF-1, MetS) or animal protein (MTOR, cancer)
They give the best advice supported by the current evidence, chud. Nobody cares about rednecks in flyover states who don't have the first clue about what constitutes methodological rigor.
>staple foods for hundreds of years because of intense calorie density >suddenly everyone can afford to stuff their faces with insane amounts
the dose makes the poison.
No one could get ill from eating too much steak and eggs. You would quickly feel satiated and stop eating. In the 50's the treatment for obesity was to let the person eat as much red meat as they wanted.
>No one could get ill from eating too much steak and eggs
You could. Eggs are high in calories, and frankly I can eat 20 in one meal with zero problems
Butter and milk which require domesticated animals are definitely not the oldest food. How are fruits and fish not included in the oldest food?
Could it be OP a gay?
Do you want to live as long as possible or just get by until your kids can defend for themselves? People in the past were eating whatever they could they didn’t have the luxury of thinking about longevity.
You are talking like we stopped being cavemen 200 years ago and just recently stopped worrying about saber cats and cave bears. People in ancient Greece lived 70-80+ if they survived childhood and they had olive oil, wine, goats and fish to eat.
A lot of people still cling to the mortality rates meme because they don't understand how it's measured or how averages work. You see it most significantly with Medieval Europe, historical education in that area is painfully lacking.
No one could get ill from eating too much steak and eggs. You would quickly feel satiated and stop eating. In the 50's the treatment for obesity was to let the person eat as much red meat as they wanted.
This entire post is so comically moronic I can't even figure out where to start with it >in da 50s
Actual 40 IQ chimpanzee, go back to whatever zoo you escaped
People died of illnesses that are now curable, they didn't die from diabetes. The pro move is to eat and live naturally but still use modern medicine when, and only when, you really need it.
He's shitposting but "sustainable" when applied to food products implies they're harvested in such a way that they won't have a negative impact on the ecosystem they're harvested from. It's probably most relevant with fish, overfishing is devastating and has a whole host of negative consequences for both the ocean and us. Also relevant for coffee if only because non-sustainable coffee is almost certainly from some factory farm in a former rainforest valley as opposed to the high-elevation small farms that will give you quality beans.
Those foods taste good because they are calorically dense. Honey and red meat are great if you’re a neolithic hunter gatherer chasing down large game for food. Not so great if you hunt at the grocery store.
If you want to live a long time, look at the diets of the people that live a long time. They’re not eating tons of red meat and chugging whole milk.
>look at the diets of the people that live a long time.
It's completely random. I've looked into this a long time ago, checking the diet of anyone I could find over 100. They've reported things like eggs, steaks, blueberries, pickles, honey, coffee, tea, exercise, sleep, etc as the "secret" to their longevity. Spoke with a few WWII vets who said just be lucky.
You're a fricking liar. Why? What agenda do you have? Sudoku in shame you piece of shit.
the oldest lived woman ever smoked ger whole life, not a whole lot though, down to 7 a day after 100, made it to 117. Ate pounds of chocolate per week, liked her meat. Didnt take life seriously. The real secret is height. There are no tall centenarians. More cells, more cancer.
Big bean industry propped up after shitty grain industry ruined farmland and caused dustbowl. Instead of using beans as fertilizer, they put it in our food, which caused heart disease, to combat rise in heart disease, vegans suggested Americans use plant-based logic and eschew libido in favor of diabetes. Big pharma and agriculture industries in bed and now controls our government health programs and hundreds of millions of obese as a result. An inverse of health guidelines is healthy
>milk
Imagine stealing m milk from an animal >meat
Enjoy your cancer >Butter
Are you moronic? Have a nice heart attack you stubborn frick >Salt
Sodium levels, enjoy your high blood pressure >non-pasteurized ferments
You smell like ass every time you sweat. >egg
Holy shit imagine actually eating the entire egg including the Yolk
Govt gets a lot of shit (I understand your point of view totally fine with that) but here they are ACTUALLY trying to help you. Take the fricking help, and follow what they say. You seriously aren’t qualified to even argue, they have a masters in nutrition you fricking don’t.
Its funny how you people (mostly americans) don't believe le elites when it comes to nutrition and covid and blindly believe every CNN talking point when it comes to war in Ukraine and middle east lmao
>Sodium levels, enjoy your high blood pressure
weird meme, low blood sodium increases angiotensin production and makes bp worse. Only a fraction of the population are salt sensitive in the first place, insulin resistance and MetS are worse culprits for bp
People eat slop their whole lives and suddenly make a drastic switch in their diet, it causes health problems - must be the diet in question not their body
My opinion is that none of them are bad when you don't gorge on starch, fat and sugar on the side. But people love their bread, pasta, pastries, soda and desserts. Then they take meds for heart, bp, cholesterol, etc.
The point of these is to keep the lowest common denominator wage slave alive enough to be of use to the state and have value extracted from them a bodybuilder who isn't using his image to create shareholder value for a corporation through advertising is a net negative compared to a short skeletal man who can operate a cash register or die in a war. Even the obese create an entire industry around themselves through their consumptive habits and the care needed to keep them alive.
anyone who thinks any of these are bad exclusively consumes enriched "wheat" flour, corn syrup, and sneed oils
their brains are rotting from the inside out, don't listen to the poison coming out of their mouth or ass
I just bought a big sandbag full of wheat ground on stone, i dont get any blood sugar issues and get all the nutrients now, what do you think about that now?
Government nutritional guidance is based on post-hoc declaring healthy the foods that are currently being domestically produced and/or subsidised, not vice versa. If you want to be an individual rather than a statistic, make your own goddamn mind up, see how different foods make you feel, and lean into what works.
>time tested thing: toxic, colonialist, problematic! >whackjob novel theory based on political idealism rather than pragmatism: yay, woo, how diverse, how equitable, finally, why did it take until [current year]!
Reminder that the USDA is not "the United States Dietary Administration". It's the United States Department of Agriculture. Its role is to promote US farm profits. They literally don't care if the food is unhealthy, their job is to promote basedbeans and corn syrup.
Because, governments don't actually want their citizens to thrive, they want them fat, sick, and dependent on them for everything.
Precisely why I haven't believed anything the government has told me since I was a teenager.
what I really dislike about these sort of "discussions" is that getting a hold of real information becomes much more difficult when everyone else is pumping out shit to pander to people who just want to argue for the sake of it.
and this weeb website is filled to the brim with that exact problem. one of the worst echo chambers out there for any kind of discussion related to health and nutrition
IST being low IQ doesn't mean the whole site is as dumb, and even it has good shit in the sticky and lots of encouragement in the generals. IST's reading lists are excellent, /ic/ has every resource a budding artist could ever want, /m/ and /toy/ are probably the best collected model kit information sources on the planet, and IST will hook you up with the perfect shit you want in both hardware and software.
Just because you're incapable of discerning the wheat from the chaff without updoots doesn't mean everyone is.
Meat and animal products literally sit in the gut rotting
There's no real reason to eat them, but people need to justify their addiction to junk foods like these
>World's oldest food >Includes milk, butter, and ferments
Uhhhhhh, wat
That shit didn't exist until we discovered agriculture and animal husbandry.
Before that we were eating whatever we could kill or scavenge
We weren't out there milking wild animals lmao
>world's oldest foods
Black person all of this shit came into diets during the Neolithic ~10,000 years ago
The only one on this list that we have been eating for longer than that is red meat.
Early man almost exclusively meat, fish, and plant foods (starchy tubers, leaves, berries, nuts)
These warnings are right.
Saturated fats should be avoided. Yes there are good red meats, but take care
K I K E
Oh no, not saturated fat!
I can't help but notice that all the wealthy countries are on the right and all the poor ones on the left. Almost as if this graph is actuallly just showing the quality of the health service.
I wonder why people in Switzerland are healthier than people in Azerbaijan
Must be the saturated fats!
>Yes there are good red meats
Like?
any of them. there is no problem with saturated fat
>No explanations or sources provided
Eat pork and DIE, moshe
>Dairy
Miss me with that shit.
>Meat, eggs
The foundation of my diet, but then again I'm not gay, YMMV.
>Salt
The "science" telling you to avoid salt is based on horrific shit being done to mice. You need salt, especially if you're active. It also makes food taste amazing.
>World's oldest foods
>no fish, fruit, or fungus
There are two types of people in the world; those who eat deenz, and those who are NGMI.
I eat grass fed beef, bison, elk, ostrich, and alligator every day. Eggs? I go full GASTON MODE every morning. All I eat is meat, beans, 'n greens. My protein farts will choke the heresy from your lips.
This. The path to hell is paved with sugar and sneed.
>The "science" telling you to avoid salt is based on horrific shit being done to mice. You need salt, especially if you're active. It also makes food taste amazing.
Your mice argument no longer relevant,. Since that experiment, a few centuries passed and we have WEALTH of real-life info on how salt affects the body of those and overindulge.
Protip - in an extremely terrible way. It is not a guessing game ,just basic frickign chemistry you flat-earther moron.
low sodium has higher associated risks than high sodium. youve only been told one side of the story
>Implicit in these guidelines is the assumption that there is no unsafe lower limit of sodium intake. However, sodium is known to play a critical role in normal human physiology, and activation of the renin–angiotensin-aldosterone system occurs when sodium intake falls below approximately 3.0 g per day.
Holy shit you are the definition of dunning Kruger, your body needs salt, processed salt is garbage and unhealthy.
I am fatter than people who got heart attacks despite them eating way less cholesterol than me.
It's genetics.
"advise" is a verb; you mean "advice".
thank sir
im proud india
Indians don't eat meat
shut frick up stupid b***h basterd
false
Only dravidians eat meat
Yeah thats right all they ever do is toss salad
This is why they're the sickest and most deformed population in the planet.
Vegetarianism is literally the cause of so many grotesque birth defects and other abominations.
Plants lack over 15 micro-nootrients critical for proper development.
Pajeets are the worst slave population for exactly this reason, also based natooral goat guy watcher.
Their sisters eat (my) White meat quite a lot.
Depends on the caste thoughbeit. Warrior caste gets to eat chicken and pork.
Modern factory farm optimized meat and dairy is not the same as historical meat and dairy.
It is not as good but it is nowhere as bad as they make it out to be.
Because they want you dumb and easier to control. Check out Naturalnews.com for all the shit in food that causes cancer or brain damage or just plain faked data in fake studies that have been revealed. Looking into nutrition science is like baby's first redpill. All your investigation going forward will show you they want us crippled and permanently paying doctors, dumb and easy to control, or dead.
Unironically true, most studies that claim "x food causes xyz" (usually cancer) test for a bajillion different diseases/disorders so at the very least one or two stick by sheer chance
That's not true at all
yes it is, there's a whole replicability crysis going on in most fields of science because of this
No, you just don't understand what you read.
Clearly not educated enough
>mouth-breather reads one article on the replication crisis and thinks he's unlocked the door of soience doom
There's plenty of replication going on. Few people cared about woke and low-impact psychology 'research' anyway.
>Naturalnews
Imagine being this moronic. Be careful of what you're posting online, the reptilian overlords might not take kind to it
How were scientist like Tesla and Einstein then mostly vegeterians? Why didn't they become stupid from not eating pounds of bacon and red meat?
Most people are not like them. Still they never reached their potential.
>check out my epic blog for more NUTRITION SECRETS that THEY don't want YOU to know!!
It's like I'm actually in 2005, God bless
Our ancestors ate that shit and they died of old age at 22
Maybe we should eat food that’s SCIENTIFICALLY designed to be healthy and nutritious instead of shit that people ate because there was nothing else
>Our ancestors ate that shit and they died of old age at 22
False, too many examples of old people
Theres no whole food that is SCIENTIFICALLY DESIGNED to be healthy and nutritious
statistical artifact, people generally lived up to 80+, just high infant mortality, nice try satan
Only the fittest would survive, which leads to artificially inflated life expectancy, not the other way around. Modern nutrition is what allows those genetically inferior babies to survive into adulthood.
You placed the word artificially in the wrong sentence
No, even in the 1800s people didn't live to 80
Despite having access to billions of encyclopedias' worth of information in mere seconds we're still doomed to hear morons spouting drivel like this for the rest of our lives, aren't we? I wish all stupid people would just drop dead already.
they died because they drank dirty water, didn't wash their hands, basic sickness had no cure, we didn't have cities protecting us from nature, high infant mortality, we didn't have an easy way to share which plants and which animals were poison
>didn't wash their hands
That's also a myth. Even medieval peasantry kept themselves clean when they could. It was common mostly the lack of medical advancement and plethora of diseases that would kill young people. But if you got in your 20s and didn't catch sepsis or plague in the meantime, you lived 80+. Also cities back then were much more dirtier then the countryside and more dangerous.
>75% infant mortality rate
>Natural lifespan is 80
>mean average is 20
>TRUST TGE HECKIN SCIENCERINO homosexuals like (you) believe, and parrot, the lie that 20 was a ripe old age
KYS you're are self
>Our ancestors ate that shit and they died of old age at 22
Most of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence lived to their late 70s
>lived to 22
They lived long enough to pass their genes on which is better than most of the morons on this board can claim.
modal age of death of modern hunter gatherers if you exclude infant mortality is in the 70s
>butter
Pointless and nutritionless fats, anglos will seethe
>meat
Healthy
>raw milk
Fricking boil that shit or you gonna get sick you fricking moronic Black person
>salt
Salt is based, just dont be a Black person with it
>non pasteurized diary
Similar to raw milk
>cholesterol
Eating no cholesterol is bad too, its necessart for hormonal balance and arthery elasticity, same as salt, dont be a Black person about it either
>conclusion
Boomers are moronic
>nutritionless fats
fat soluble vitamins? Seed oils are nutritionless fats. Meat and animal fats are not
Idiot
natural fats provide nutrition. Keep coping weirdo
Such imbecile
Which nutrition? There is frickall in butter besides maybe some vitamin A.
You can’t absorb FAT SOLUBLE nutrients WITHOUT fat.
>cant absorb fat soluble nutrients without fat
theres fat in all plants, everything has a small amount, probably enough.
>t. seething shitskin
Shitskins love raw milk
Are you moronic?
You're talking out your ass, raw milk will not get you sick, unless it was produced under poor conditions, people getting sick off of raw milk is so rare the feds jump at the chance to get the offending farm shut down, it's because they want you sick and dead drinking pasteurized and homogenized garbage, Victor Rothschild who only spoke twice in his whole life at the house of lords had only opened his mouth for the state of Israel and milk pasteurization, that's because he knew through current research that it makes mice infertile, and it had the added benefit of putting small farmers out of business.
>Eating no cholesterol is bad too, its necessart for hormonal balance and arthery elasticity, same as salt, dont be a Black person about it either
Ketards and meat clowns agree that dietary cholesterol makes little difference to blood cholesterol. Its measured in microscopically tiny amounts that vary greatly based on time of day, fasting status, hydration status. And then the usual test is an averaged guess. Your body makes all the cholesterol you need. Want to live a long time? Dont eat too much of anything, carbs (AGEs, IGF-1, MetS) or animal protein (MTOR, cancer)
They give the best advice supported by the current evidence, chud. Nobody cares about rednecks in flyover states who don't have the first clue about what constitutes methodological rigor.
~~*Because*~~
>staple foods for hundreds of years because of intense calorie density
>suddenly everyone can afford to stuff their faces with insane amounts
the dose makes the poison.
No one could get ill from eating too much steak and eggs. You would quickly feel satiated and stop eating. In the 50's the treatment for obesity was to let the person eat as much red meat as they wanted.
>No one could get ill from eating too much steak and eggs
You could. Eggs are high in calories, and frankly I can eat 20 in one meal with zero problems
This is something you regularly do? What is your body composition?
>Eggs are high in calories
Are you moronic?
20 eggs is a relatively small number for an average sized person, I'd say?
Butter and milk which require domesticated animals are definitely not the oldest food. How are fruits and fish not included in the oldest food?
Could it be OP a gay?
Maybe you just can’t read
Do you want to live as long as possible or just get by until your kids can defend for themselves? People in the past were eating whatever they could they didn’t have the luxury of thinking about longevity.
You are talking like we stopped being cavemen 200 years ago and just recently stopped worrying about saber cats and cave bears. People in ancient Greece lived 70-80+ if they survived childhood and they had olive oil, wine, goats and fish to eat.
A lot of people still cling to the mortality rates meme because they don't understand how it's measured or how averages work. You see it most significantly with Medieval Europe, historical education in that area is painfully lacking.
This entire post is so comically moronic I can't even figure out where to start with it
>in da 50s
Actual 40 IQ chimpanzee, go back to whatever zoo you escaped
westerners in 19th century lived on average to 50 with excluded infant mortality
some people living to 80 doesn't make it a norm in any way or form
People died of illnesses that are now curable, they didn't die from diabetes. The pro move is to eat and live naturally but still use modern medicine when, and only when, you really need it.
During a time plagued by wars.
> average
~~*(I have no idea*~~)
Lab made food is superior in nutrients and sustainability
>sustainability
Please please please elaborate. I hear this meme word being thrown around constantly.
He's shitposting but "sustainable" when applied to food products implies they're harvested in such a way that they won't have a negative impact on the ecosystem they're harvested from. It's probably most relevant with fish, overfishing is devastating and has a whole host of negative consequences for both the ocean and us. Also relevant for coffee if only because non-sustainable coffee is almost certainly from some factory farm in a former rainforest valley as opposed to the high-elevation small farms that will give you quality beans.
>muh ancestors
>people did it in the past so it mudt be optimal!
How about you start using lead cookware like romans did? Don't
They aren't paleo people
Butyric acid and all fat soluble vitamins
>all fat soluble vitamins
Yeah but it's like 1%. Who gives a shit.
Those foods taste good because they are calorically dense. Honey and red meat are great if you’re a neolithic hunter gatherer chasing down large game for food. Not so great if you hunt at the grocery store.
If you want to live a long time, look at the diets of the people that live a long time. They’re not eating tons of red meat and chugging whole milk.
yes they do
>look at the diets of the people that live a long time.
It's completely random. I've looked into this a long time ago, checking the diet of anyone I could find over 100. They've reported things like eggs, steaks, blueberries, pickles, honey, coffee, tea, exercise, sleep, etc as the "secret" to their longevity. Spoke with a few WWII vets who said just be lucky.
You're a fricking liar. Why? What agenda do you have? Sudoku in shame you piece of shit.
the oldest lived woman ever smoked ger whole life, not a whole lot though, down to 7 a day after 100, made it to 117. Ate pounds of chocolate per week, liked her meat. Didnt take life seriously. The real secret is height. There are no tall centenarians. More cells, more cancer.
Most of those are expensive to produce so the gubmints want you to eat grains like cattle
Big bean industry propped up after shitty grain industry ruined farmland and caused dustbowl. Instead of using beans as fertilizer, they put it in our food, which caused heart disease, to combat rise in heart disease, vegans suggested Americans use plant-based logic and eschew libido in favor of diabetes. Big pharma and agriculture industries in bed and now controls our government health programs and hundreds of millions of obese as a result. An inverse of health guidelines is healthy
>milk
Imagine stealing m milk from an animal
>meat
Enjoy your cancer
>Butter
Are you moronic? Have a nice heart attack you stubborn frick
>Salt
Sodium levels, enjoy your high blood pressure
>non-pasteurized ferments
You smell like ass every time you sweat.
>egg
Holy shit imagine actually eating the entire egg including the Yolk
Govt gets a lot of shit (I understand your point of view totally fine with that) but here they are ACTUALLY trying to help you. Take the fricking help, and follow what they say. You seriously aren’t qualified to even argue, they have a masters in nutrition you fricking don’t.
Yes, the Government just wants you to be healthy! They would never mislead you, it's all for your good. Eat the bugs, own nothing and be happy!
Its funny how you people (mostly americans) don't believe le elites when it comes to nutrition and covid and blindly believe every CNN talking point when it comes to war in Ukraine and middle east lmao
>You seriously aren’t qualified to even argue, they have a masters in nutrition you fricking don’t.
Literal moron tier post. Let me guess, you took all of the covid "vaccines" and related boosters?
How about you help yourself and jump off a bridge for a change.
>vegan moron bashes ferments
Yep, you're a disinfo agent.
>I understand your point of view totally fine with that
no you don't you midwit
>One argument is literally "you smell"
Good to know that I can safely disregard this post
>Sodium levels, enjoy your high blood pressure
weird meme, low blood sodium increases angiotensin production and makes bp worse. Only a fraction of the population are salt sensitive in the first place, insulin resistance and MetS are worse culprits for bp
all the foods listed is full of saturated fat, the population that eats the least animal products live the longest, like the okinawans.
People eat slop their whole lives and suddenly make a drastic switch in their diet, it causes health problems - must be the diet in question not their body
ACK
Eat veg-ACK
That guy is such a idiot, he eats grocery store produce and then constantly runs ultramarathons, he is a cultist.
It's simple. They want us sick and weak so we're easier to control.
My opinion is that none of them are bad when you don't gorge on starch, fat and sugar on the side. But people love their bread, pasta, pastries, soda and desserts. Then they take meds for heart, bp, cholesterol, etc.
pasta is fine, it has a low GI due to the compressed shape
The point of these is to keep the lowest common denominator wage slave alive enough to be of use to the state and have value extracted from them a bodybuilder who isn't using his image to create shareholder value for a corporation through advertising is a net negative compared to a short skeletal man who can operate a cash register or die in a war. Even the obese create an entire industry around themselves through their consumptive habits and the care needed to keep them alive.
How is a body builder worse then the skinny man in the society? Wouldn’t they be seen as the exact same. How is a body builder a net negative
They consume more resources but produce the same unless they are mr. olympia.
Government only wants followers not people who can overthrow it.
anyone who thinks any of these are bad exclusively consumes enriched "wheat" flour, corn syrup, and sneed oils
their brains are rotting from the inside out, don't listen to the poison coming out of their mouth or ass
I just bought a big sandbag full of wheat ground on stone, i dont get any blood sugar issues and get all the nutrients now, what do you think about that now?
what kind of wheat, and from where?
Idk man a local stonemill? I tried it dont get sleepy after eating it, feelin great.
Im so glad i can eat bread again.
People who fall for the
>red meat bad
hoax are the same goys that get injected with mrna pseudovaccines.
Because the world doesn't have the economic capacity to provide eight billion people with 1g protein per kg bodyweight each day
Thats right it has one hundred trillion times one billion that capacity but u got ur head spermed by a rabbi
Bugs for bugmen.
Meat for meatymen
Søy for søyboys.
Any questions?
Government nutritional guidance is based on post-hoc declaring healthy the foods that are currently being domestically produced and/or subsidised, not vice versa. If you want to be an individual rather than a statistic, make your own goddamn mind up, see how different foods make you feel, and lean into what works.
>old good, new bad!
>time tested thing: toxic, colonialist, problematic!
>whackjob novel theory based on political idealism rather than pragmatism: yay, woo, how diverse, how equitable, finally, why did it take until [current year]!
>words words words words
Yes, that's how a forum works
>old bad, new good!
Anyone who believes raw milk causes any disease is a certified moron.
get fricked, you fricking tradgay
Reminder that the USDA is not "the United States Dietary Administration". It's the United States Department of Agriculture. Its role is to promote US farm profits. They literally don't care if the food is unhealthy, their job is to promote basedbeans and corn syrup.
surely it's because they are dumb and not some sort of conspiracy
that would just make you a schizo
Because, governments don't actually want their citizens to thrive, they want them fat, sick, and dependent on them for everything.
Precisely why I haven't believed anything the government has told me since I was a teenager.
what I really dislike about these sort of "discussions" is that getting a hold of real information becomes much more difficult when everyone else is pumping out shit to pander to people who just want to argue for the sake of it.
and this weeb website is filled to the brim with that exact problem. one of the worst echo chambers out there for any kind of discussion related to health and nutrition
If you come to IST for advice you never stood a chance in reality anyway lmao
that is true and also why so many idiots here believe the same thing lol because they unironically DO come for genuine advice
IST being low IQ doesn't mean the whole site is as dumb, and even it has good shit in the sticky and lots of encouragement in the generals. IST's reading lists are excellent, /ic/ has every resource a budding artist could ever want, /m/ and /toy/ are probably the best collected model kit information sources on the planet, and IST will hook you up with the perfect shit you want in both hardware and software.
Just because you're incapable of discerning the wheat from the chaff without updoots doesn't mean everyone is.
Meat and animal products literally sit in the gut rotting
There's no real reason to eat them, but people need to justify their addiction to junk foods like these
>World's oldest food
>Includes milk, butter, and ferments
Uhhhhhh, wat
That shit didn't exist until we discovered agriculture and animal husbandry.
Before that we were eating whatever we could kill or scavenge
We weren't out there milking wild animals lmao
Whoever made this is moronic
Yeah the real homonid diet is sun tenderized tendons and bone marrow.
Its just sunk cost fallacy on a global scale.
>World's oldest foods
>took until the 20th century before life expectancy exceeded 50 years old
you are a moron see
>world's oldest foods
Black person all of this shit came into diets during the Neolithic ~10,000 years ago
The only one on this list that we have been eating for longer than that is red meat.
Early man almost exclusively meat, fish, and plant foods (starchy tubers, leaves, berries, nuts)
Because they hate you and want you to die.