Why do guys act like the wall doesn't exist for them? You will look like shit if you don't take care of your body, hair, style and make sure to have a decent job.
Stop procrastinating and begin your healthy life today!
Why do guys act like the wall doesn't exist for them? You will look like shit if you don't take care of your body, hair, style and make sure to have a decent job.
Lack of self-awareness. They look like garbage but think they "still got it."
i would kill myself if i looked like this
I'd lose weight and get LASIK and try to keep my mouth closed for photos, but that's just me.
i think i have a more handsome face than him. plus i already was a fatty that lost all the weight so if i went back to it i would most definitely honor kill myself.
Why? He can fix most of issues.
>don’t act like an autist in photos
Because hitting the wall "hurts" more for a woman than a man. Society still values youthfulness above all else for women; nobody gives a shit that you're a high-earning bossbitch if you're in your mid 30s with a dried up womb.
A man can "earn" his way out of the wall and buy himself some more time. Once you hit that appearance and fertility wall as a woman it's over.
>has all this "social currency"
>complains on the internet
is this what they call a femcel? why does she literally look like chudjak with a wig and lipstick?
She looks cute to me
nice. well then go hit her up so she stops bitching about no one liking her on the internet like an 11 year old.
Femcel doesn't work for women because celibate is in the name and that would mean going without getting pumped and dumped by Chad. Women's problem is they'll never get a lasting meaningful relationship because all the casual dick, drugs, pandering/propaganda and general mental illness they've got has ensured they will never be satisfied even if a guy they literally asked for one day showed up in front of her. When you think about it men being celibate isn't really the worst thing especially considering the alternative is dealing with these same women. I try explaining this to incels.
If I had to choose between being an incel and only completely insane women I'd be celibate, and most guys who have been stuck with these genuinely batshit dangers to society would agree.
I'm honestly pretty sure that men are waiting for the day when they don't need women to procreate and they can just disregard them entirely.
im asking if this is what is referred to by the term, not whether you agree with the term being accurate dude. why can zoomers not even make it through a single sentence?
It's not just disagreeing with it I'm telling you there's no such thing as a femcel. It's an emotional/mental issue for women not a sex one like for the men the term is mimicking.
ok got so not only did you not comprehend it, you are completely incapable of comprehending it. thanks for explaining.
She's not even a femcel in the sense she can't have sex with Chad which is one of the definitions for this meme word, maybe people call her that regardless.
Y’all fall for propaganda so easily. Women don’t have as much options either cause they’re all single and childless idiot. Women are starving for dudes to talk to them. Why do you think they keep invading male spaces like gaming and gym in the past decade. Women in gym literally will stand right in front of a dude and spread cheeks and the bro starts recording to jack off to it later like a loser instead of saying wassup
Women are single and childless because they're blown out, on various drugs which even they will admit drastically changes their personality/mood, and generally not worth interacting anymore compared to what they offer even if guys weren't awkward from prolonged isolation. Now you have to worry about women slandering you and ruining your life because you offended her and or weren't attractive enough. Even when you ignore all that and talk to or try dating a woman anyway she has multiple men waiting on the side who she'll probably sleep with, and that's before the relationship ends because of her getting bored. It's not propaganda it's how women have been caught acting.
>Women in gym literally will stand right in front of a dude and spread cheeks and the bro starts recording to jack off to it later like a loser instead of saying wassup
Another thing is women now spread their ass online for multiple men specifically so they can pay her and jerk it to the pics. They wanted this shitty dynamic because they could profit now they have it..
If a woman respects you then she wouldn’t slander you or drag your name, if a woman respects you she will honor your name and defend your name in your absence. Why are you worried about simps? Women like attention, she posts a pick on ig and that’s it, it’s the same when a dude is showing off his car and/or property. Idk understand why y’all aren’t getting mad at simps for creating the bullshit we have today. Onlyfans wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for simps
The problem is women generally don't respect men regardless and do all kinds of nasty shit to guys that treat them well. You get good results and some respect for treating them like dirt but at that point a relationship is redundant and it's an act that gets tiring for guys. Women are too unstable and fucked in the head on multiple levels for you to trust they won't try to slander or ruin you just because you behaved well. I insult simps all the time and I try to explain things to them but they only maybe learn through enough pain. Men are conditioned and lied into being simps by society and women because again they profit from it. Women are directly responsible for why things are so confused because they lie like they breath and then play stupid or innocent when consequences come. I insult simps but women are on another level of garbage.
It's shit like this that legitimately makes me believe that demonic possession is real.
It is. That crazy bitch got a real obvious case. Have heard from a former classmate about people acting obviously mental and OOC when drinking a bit, then going back to "normal" without a clue when they are restrained without knowing what happened. Have felt a "pull" towards acting evil in my life, but without giving in it just disappears.
Midwits will tell you psychology this and that, but demons are real. They'd prefer it if you murdered, but they will settle for you being lazy and nasty to others.
Sylvia Plath is a feminist author that an heroed. This isn’t a good sign bros
Women don’t hit the wall cause there’s always guys trying to fuck and simp
Even simps prefer young women as seen by some of the most famous e thots followings because they're simply more attractive. The only reason men would get with older women is out of desperation or lack of options and similarly the only reason older women would pick any of the simps who were always there to be in a relationship with them is out of desperation and Chad turning their attention to younger thots. Neither are getting what they actually want but guaranteed the woman will be even less satisfied than the simp because that's just how women are. They could have everything they had in their youth as an old lady somehow and they still wouldn't be satisfied at this point.
Most guys would not turn down an older women and probably don't care if it was 1 - 3 years older. Women simply won't even give younger guys a chance if they're 3+ years younger.
yeah from what theyve told me they already think guys their own age are comparatively immature and retarded, doubly so for guys under 25. i kinda get it. imagine having to pretend to take seriously everything a 16 year old had to say as a 27 year old.
>Most guys would not turn down an older women
Because most guys can't afford to be picky and are more realistic about their situation. I was talking about women in their late 30s and beyond anyway. Men generally prefer younger women because they're measurably more attractive but will settle for whatever they can get. Men will dumpster dive.
Men generally want sex and sometimes children. Women generally want a lifelong relationship. When women hit the wall, a lifelong relationship becomes incredibly unlikely. When men hit the wall, generally they can still have sex (with money) and often times can have kids as well (with a woman approaching the wall, a single mother, sometimes even with a young woman). This is because a man's financial and social standing allows him access to women even if his looks are fading/gone.
The problem with this is that most men will never get near the salary needed for women to see him in that regards. Yes, women are attracted to more than just looks, but to win a girl with money you need to make at least 6 figures. Which the vast majority of men aren't making.
Women in their early 20s won't even talk to an older guy unless he's an actual top 0.5% of his age group.
do ugly people just make this shit up so they dont feel bad about being lonely?
Yea no I'm in my 30s and am typically the most attractive dude in the room. I dress nice and rarely, if ever show my wealth. Most of my clothes are second hand and I do my own repairs. GF keeps wanting to take me to the club to see how many girls I "fight off". I dunno if she realizes the game she's playing.
You're coping hard. I'm 34 and a manlet. Young women try to steal me from my family. Sorry bro
>When women hit the wall, a lifelong relationship becomes incredibly unlikely.
A lifelong relationship is always an option if a woman goes for her looksmatch.
The issue is that a woman accumulates standards based on the best qualities of her previous partners
Has she had a handsome BF? Well the current one better be handsome.
Has she had a wealthy BF with status? Well the handsome guy better also be wealthy and have status.
Has she had a guy that was great in bed? Well the handsome, rich, successful guy had better be good in bed.
And so on...
I think this is why they get worse at pair-bonding as they accrue more previous partners/bodies, you are essentially competing with the best qualities of every man she has had past romantic relations with.
So while a woman technically has options as she gets older, she generally doesn't lower her standards; but rather raises them.
zero sum game I guess
>you are essentially competing with the best qualities of every man she has had past romantic relations with
Disagree. If a woman is single for a very long time, you are competing with her established solo lifestyle. Why should she give up her singlehood for someone who does not add value to her life?
They're still fucking and getting attached to qualities of the guys they're fucking.
Some just right off the bat will shoot for the tier of men that are out of their league and won't commit to them, so they choose the "single" lifestyle because they can't replace that chad that they're hung up on (ie the one that got away, lol lmao); at least not until it's settle time and they have to dramatically lower their standards for the best option of a guy that they can guarantee will commit.
You guys are seeing a small percentage of women online and saying this is every, majority are single and sexless. They’re starving. The game has never been easier, why? Cause dudes today are so fucking lame. “Chad” is some dude that got his shit together, he can be ugly and short and he’ll get more play just cause he’s consistent, reliable, hardworking, can protect, and is straightforward with what he wants with women
yessir. everyone sucks on both sides, just that dudes arent trying to fuck other dudes. (fags dont count in this scenario)
Women are sharing guys the same few guys for fucking and it's not a small percentage at all. They deserve to "starve" or go without meaningful relationships because they've become toxic.
That’s some old fashioned shit that modern hoes do not care for
Cope. Y’all can’t walk around defenseless in life
You'd think that, but thousands of years of survival instincts can't be dropped that easily
But generally, she won't
>Men generally want sex and sometimes children. Women generally want a lifelong relationship.
I know that's how it traditionally was, but now, it really seems like the opposite. Women generally love to travel and have as many sexual partners as they can, while it seems as though that men generally want their first girlfriend to be their wife and mother of their children.
>while it seems as though that men generally want their first girlfriend to be their wife and mother of their children.
Not really, that's just autists on IST.
Why do they all make this face?
It stirs feelings of anger and violence in me
I think it's supposed to be "look at me, I'm quirky and excited about something (basically feigning being interesting/passionate)," but it really just looks like they're ready to catch spunk.
To come across as non threatening as possible so the women will think they are safe because they think women value a safe guy
You can still have kids as a man after 35.
As a woman, it's getting pretty hard.
The possibility alone makes it much less limiting. Of course the chances of becoming a father decrease with every year because your possible dating pool gets older and by the time you're 40+, the number of fertile women willing to date you is very slim.
But "theoretically", you still could.
For women, it's a much harder, physically manifested deadline. They will simply physically stop being able to bear children and live a life full of regret if they didn't.
Women can still have kids till late 40s, it's just birth defects slowly raise after 30.
There is no wall for men. Hitting the wall means you were moving somewhere and then all of a sudden you hit an unavoidable wall in your way. If the man doesn't put in work, he doesn't hit a wall cause he wasn't moving in the first place. What men value most doesn't get better with age, what women value gets better with age.
Why do you act like this "man" is the average guy?
In certain areas, he is. I guess you never went to the "trendy" parts of north Chicago. You throw a rock and you hit at least 4 guys just like this chode. Throw it hard, please.
He is.. for Americans.
Real men don't give a shit, pussy.
I like being alone, so I turn around and go home.
Sometimes I want to put some concrete anchors on the wall, a pull up bar, and do pull ups or chin ups.
men just don't care
remember that tweet of some chick saying "guys live like this and don't see any issue" with a pic of an unfurnished apartment, and then guys flooded the coment section of said tweet saying how stupid that woman was
well to be fair she was correct, that apartment looked like shit and was only suitable for 1 man, in a sense that whoever was living in that apartment couldn't afford to invite anyone to his home since he only had a 1 seat sofa
well a lot of guys keep that apartment that way, unchanged, they don't see a need to change it, and if its not their apartment its other things, their clothes, their room, their lifestyle, even their life in general, they are simple not because they are humble they are simple because they are lazy and arrogant
Why am I supposed to care
Cause mine are supposed to be evolving and outcompeting themselves from yesterday; women’s hypergamy
>men have both more collagen and muscle than women which literally let's them handle aging and extra weight better
>men can always buy the best women have to offer because they always sell it and men generally gain more money over time while the vast majority of women's worth and relevance comes from their youth/beauty which they rely on heavily and is short lived
>basically most men don't get anything for being young and having functioning genitals the way women do so they have to work for any worth while women are handed most of theirs early and waste it
Obviously a healthy person is still superior to a fat bastard but men still generally age better than women especially since women gain even more weight than men now and they can never buy satisfaction/a lasting relationship/actual happiness the way men can just buy pussy or nowadays alternatives that give even more pleasure.
This is precisely why I'll refuse to have sex if I haven't before I hit thirty.
Many pedos with extra steps will claim that since his kindergartener wife is 20 while he's like 38, it's cool because they're both 18+ years old.
Here's the thing; Chad wasn't cool because he got laid with young girls, he got laid with girls while HE was young. There's no respect for a middle aged fuckass whose wife is barely legal when he should've been having grandkids by then. Same goes for 30+ year old betabux simps whose wives' cock chunnel have been widened enough to act as an 18 course putt-putt hole.
>fucking a 20 year old is pedo not even based on the arbitrary age of consent but because muh age gap
Hopefully you're memeing and not actually this retarded. That tik tok gym thot tried saying the same thing.
Yes, and cunts like you deserve to be separated and placed with an age-appropriate wife, regardless of how many bodies the hag has had. I refuse to take a potential wife from a future young garden gnome-hater when I'm middle aged because "muh purity". If I couldn't fuck before I hit 30, I simply shouldn't. Simple.
yeah but absolutely no one cares about your opinion on anything because youre a bitter virgin. your worldview is getting filtered as we speak.
They don't care because they are animals, not humans.
Someone who actually has these things called "principle" and "dignity".
cheers. i am lmaoing at your sad life.
Hey, I either have an *equally* young and fertile wife who receive fresh sperm, or I live my life with other goals in mind. Have fun with your retard kids.
Yes, brown, arranged-marriage practicing shitholes and stuffy nobles. Peasantry and other down-to-earth people have had a much more relaxed system where the partners simply found themselves, though age gaps were still nowhere near as much of a concern.
Men have also been letting garden gnomes take control over their nations until it's too late and have been letting themselves almost inevitably die off in wars instigated by ~~*elites*~~. Just because it's tradition doesn't mean it's objectively good.
>It's not such a great sign of dignity or self respect if you wife an old single mom who's had miles of cock instead
I know. I literally said in
that beta cucks with betabux are no more, in fact even less respectable than middle aged men whose wives are mistakable as being their daughters.
>speechless, can only respond with maskjak
I accept your concession.
Well at least you understand being a beta bux is a waste but the pedo accusation is still dumb. And you need to understand it's not a sure thing at all that just because you leave these women to younger guys they'll wife them up instead of pumping and dumping to leave leftovers for the other young guys anyway. It happens all the time in schools and has probably been happening for a long time. It doesn't matter if the cock is technically younger if they're still getting fucked casually.
True. I'm not even *really* mad about the age thing so long as said woman's age fits under the age-old half your age plus seven principle, and visa versa. It's really a looks thing, if she doesn't look like she's your daughter or mother, it's all cool.
Someone with principles could treat a younger woman well in a relationship. It's not such a great sign of dignity or self respect if you wife an old single mom who's had miles of cock instead.
Who are you to say certain women are off limits to other men because of an age gap? Age gap relationships have always been a thing and these women even seek them out for whatever reason. I don't personally want any relationships but for you people to be at a point where you're calling men pedos for fucking even legal aged adult women is retarded. These young guys who do most the fucking also pump and dump they don't have long lasting relationships in this era.
You sound like a bitter roastie. Men have been taking younger wives forever.
By the time men hit the wall appearances don't matter since they are married and/or have successful careers and can just buy love. Men hit the wall at the earliest mid 30s and at latest mid 50s. Women hit the wall between 25-35 except for the 15% who are genuine milfs
wait guys here think once they hit 30s, early 20 year olds would fuck them despite never wanting to fuck them?
I swear this is only true if you're either an already good looking guy, celebrity or 7 figures rich
It's not a guarantee but it happens especially since so many women insisted on being single mothers and ensured any daughters they had would have daddy issues.
I don't know. I copemaxxed and accepted it wasn't going to happen when I was in my teens and so I work on my wizard skills.
Wizard skills? Sexual Transmutation right?
Its easier and more common than you think. Im way above average so it works on that frame as you said sure but even my fatso, ugly and brainlet friend that got nothing other than a stable mediocre job is doing it casually. In fact with more success than me because I dont really bother seeking it and chasing in general, he does. Once I asked this 21 chica why hang despite this age gap, it sounded genuine as she said she dont wanna hang with immature friends of same age but wants to hang with men who are like men that know what theyre doing and what they want.
Working towards avoiding the wall for as long as possible, ideally 40-50 years in, things start going down hill.
I am currently working on my physical health (strength training and cardiovascular conditioning), utilising a kind of robust skincare routine (cleanser, toner, moisturiser daily, still need to pick up some serum and considering an eye cream), getting good eating habits (hitting macros, getting a wide variety, getting rid of overly processed shit), and a healthy sleep schedule.
Pls give tips and things for me to improve on so I age very good the x
Add sunscreen to your skin care routine (morning only) you’d be surprised how much the sun can age you over decades
Get good sleep. Prioritize it. It seems pointless to worry about when you're 19, but it really matters long term. Meditation will slow down aging. Eat a balanced diet. Avoid refined foods. If it comes in a box or bag, it's not food. Sugars dry out the skin. And years of sugar consumption will really catch up to you. Do not stress about anything if you can help it. Stress is terrible for aging. It's the worst. Maintain your chill in all situations. Take a deep breath, count to 5 before responding, remove toxic people from your life.
The wall doesn't exist for me because I was always ugly
They are entirely different.
If a man hits the wall, it is entirely self inflicted.
For women, it is inescapable.
I'm 32 and everybody thinks i'm 24-25. No wrinkles or shit skin from wearing makeup for over a decade. All the women my age look terrible.
Yes, age effects everybody. No, not equally. Bringing up some fat, sloppy, unhealthy basedboy isn't going to disprove this point.
A man "hits the wall" when he's no longer a cute little kid and can't use it to get his way. It's not that we age better, it's that we've had to learn to contribute to any situation we're in earlier in life.
>I hit the wall at 15
sounds about right
I'm 31 and I look more youthful than many teenagers. No woman will ever enjoy this kind of longevity. I pity them
It's a guy's cope that his life will get better but realistically, a vast majority of men will age terribly and won't have that kick-ass career. They'll marry some average woman and work a job making $40k. Not every man will be Leo or Clooney
having a perfectly normal and acceptable life
>a fate worse than death according to IST apparently
Well yeah, most people expect anything else but being average
yeah well, life aint fair and the world is mean. it can still be a good life if you dont burn your soul with greed.
>it can still be a good life if you dont burn your soul with greed.
This bro gets it
Men don't marry and barely work anymore and good thing too since the cheating, stress and divorce are wastes of time. Women made it very obvious they don't want ltr with men.
*men as conditioned by the gnomish psyops you morons fell for made it obvious
sad shit bro
Feminism was started by feminist garden gnomes but women ate it up and went divorce crazy. Now men can't even risk having a conversation with them without worrying about them accusing men of rape because their period was real bad that day.
It's been getting better so far. 34 presently.
>look the best i've ever looked in my life
the wall’s there, the road to get there is just longer
Bald/balding men hit "the wall" automatically.
you will look like shit if you get fat, all that other shit only really matters for women.
unironically life for a man begins at 30 (after the previous 15 years of preperation)
Keep telling yourself you expired, worthless moid.
Nothing is more precious than a beautiful young male. A prime specimen of ripe age. You are more valuable as a fit, prestine, white male of teenage and young adult age, not only for sports and military but for being a precious young pet.
Creepiest post itt
Am friends with doctor
Who sees couples where the male is responsible 50% of the time for weak sperm unable to impregnate the woman
This is 100% false.
That is all, you may proceed to read the other posts.
It's not false you retard.
I'm soon to be 32 and I'm already starting to look like Vegeta. I guess I'll just accept nature and then look like pic related.
how fit does a male have to be not to get raped
>Why do guys act like the wall doesn't exist for them?
Because it doesn't
Men go from being an ugly awkward spindly/chubby teenager to being an ugly hairy bald ogre
Men don't hit the wall because they were born with their face smashed against it
The only salvation for men is that fact that women are fucked in the head and are in to it
The "salvation" for men is
Yeah bro the average 35 year old male slaving away at mcdonalds is totes going to accumulate enough net worth to just buy a new 19 year old gold digger every year and men age sooo well all that extra collagen and muscle it totally going to make you age so well under the acne scars from testosterone making your skin an oil slick and the stretch marks from suddenly growing 6 inches per year and gaining 20 lbs of mucle but at least your scalp will be like a babies ass when all your hair falls out haha
It's not expensive to buy a whore especially if you pick the right place. Men's proven testosterone and stronger skin literally makes it so they age better than women unless maybe he's a fat bastard and the women put effort into their appearance beyond makeup which fucks their skin further and isn't even their real face, but the reality is again women gain even more weight than men now while not having the same muscle to soften the blow to the appearance or health. I've also seen more than a few women with funny hair lines and wigs.
hey jannies it's time for my banning again, please make it quick
>tfw no giant vagina gf
please make it an IP ban or something this time if you can aswell
that pic is unironically me. i dont even know why. im a pretty happy and content person overall. always been like that.
is balding hitting the wall for men ?
>meeks has entered the thread
only if you are ugly, but then you were ugly before so there was no wall, it just never began.
Because they look at actors who have millions of dollars and a team of the best doctors to keep them looking good and think that'll be them
No its because of the reasons listed in the thread along with men not having to deal with their equivalent of menopause simultaneously making them more of a bitch than normal and taking most their money out their bank account. Take away women's makeup and tell me they actually look better than their male counterparts.
How little self-awareness does it take to sperg about "the wall" when you're the sex that loses their hair
Smooth heads can still get pussy and don't get menopause
I'm afraid you aren't Bruce Willis so you're going to have to pay for it
No one is paying to fuck you
Your hair isn't coming back
I still have all my hair and shave it all occasionally as a style choice anyway. No one cares you don't like bald guys because they again still get pussy whether it's paying for it or not and they don't become turbo crazy cunts at the same time they lose their hair. At least you have thinning hair to brag about as you go crazy and repel the only guys that matter to you.
Is all you have because even the baldest men age better than menopausal women.
>coping this hard
Women's hairlines recede too anon.
>a minority of women losing their hair in middle age from hormonal issues is the same as a majority of men starting to bald at 19
>nooo you don't understand you HAVE to DEBATE me!!!
>nooo you HAVE to let me use words I don't understand and accept whatever I say just because!!
>noooo I'm not coping because... I'm just not, okay?
All I said could easily be confirmed with a Google search, it wasn't crafting a false reality because I couldn't deal with actual reality. You simply threw out a buzzword in response that doesn't even fit the situation because you have no actual point.
>it wasn't crafting a false reality because I couldn't deal with actual reality
Younger women lose hair now too. I'm seeing a lot of it these days. Anyway that's not anon's point. His point is, bald men lose hair and often gain personality or work hard to make up for the hair loss (some of course take the blackpill and spiral towards the wall). Menopausal women turn into raging bitches 24/7, grow facial hair, and develop masculine features.
>couldn't explain why it's cope to save their life
There's nothing wrong with balding
BREAKING NEWS: PEOPLE AGE
MORE AT 11
I don't know what kind of hair style I should get.