Why do meat-based diets work better than plant-based for getting fit?

Why do meat-based diets work better than plant-based for getting fit?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >SUGAR IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >SATURATED FAT IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >CARBS ARE.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >CHOLESTEROL IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >STARCH IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >GLUTEN IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >LACTOSE IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >RED MEAT IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >EGGS ARE.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >FISH IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >DAIRY IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >FRUIT IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >VEGETABLES ARE.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >POULTRY IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >GRAINS ARE.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >ORGAN MEAT IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.
    >WATER IS.. LE BAD!!
    No.

    God made all this tasty food for me to eat, therefore I'm going to eat it. Simple as

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >vegetables taste good
      u will never be giga chad

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        what a spanish i am take, have a nice day

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Enjoy cancer

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Broccoli is yummy and good for you I eat it every day

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      note the tasty food enjoyer never mentions seed oils because they are the one true evil

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          note the tasty food enjoyer never mentions seed oils because they are the one true evil

          You can do a Ray Peat "diet" and eat tasty food that also makes you feel good.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            post what you mean so I can tell you why you are wrong. no quotes to give yourself leverage either homosexual

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >eat icecream
              >feel good
              >eat cheesecake
              >feel good
              >eat tres leches cake
              >feel good

              >eat chocolate chip muffin
              >feel bad

              Some tasty foods have a little bit of PUFAs. Some have a buttload.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Steak is tasty.
            Eggs are tasty.
            Rice is tasty.
            Milk is tasty.
            Greek yoghurt is tasty.
            Apricots are tasty.
            Bananas are tasty.
            Raisins are tasty.
            Tomatoes are tasty.
            Broccoli is tasty.
            Spinach is tasty.
            Carrots are tasty.
            Potatoes are tasty.
            Pineapple is tasty.
            Kefir is tasty.
            Cheese is tasty.
            Onions are tasty.
            My diet is already made of tasty foods. I'm good

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Kefir is tasty.
              This is one of the ones I'm talking about. Yakult did not make me feel good, it made me really gassy. Kefir makes me feel good, so I switched to that.

              Kombucha used to make me feel good, but every company had to make changes to avoid testing alcohol levels.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Well of course, if a food doesn't make you feel good, don't eat it. Beans annihilate my digestion, so I avoid eating them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      God didn't make table sugar and proceeded foods. Foodstuff coming out of a metallic vegana onto a conveyor belt in an industrial food factory complex is an ungodly abomination. Restriction diets don't lend themselves to healthy day-to-day eating but again restricting processed shit doesn't count as a diet restriction.

      also read

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >God didn't make table sugar and proceeded foods. Foodstuff coming out of a metallic vegana onto a conveyor belt in an industrial food factory complex is an ungodly abomination.
        Yes, which is why I did not put any of those things into my post. I think sugar in of itself is fine when used responsibly, but I personally think honey is a better option most of the time anyway

        • 1 year ago
          sage

          >yes which is why I didn't put any of these in my post
          >one of these things is literally the first item of post

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sugar as mentioned in the abstract and processed table sugar are two distinct things and to pretend otherwise is to be intentionally obtuse for the frick of it. Quit it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >also read
        >*posts youtube link*
        What did he mean by this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      "god" also put your g-spot up your ass

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me you never read the bible without telling me you never read the bible

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what does that have to do with it?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I forgot sometimes people just say stupid stuff with no point my bad

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              no but what does the bible have to do with his point? he said that not everything God has made available is good and you post your bible nonsense. what does the bible say? you can just say it here

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do you even know what the doctrine of the fall is

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                not sure tell me about it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Stop arguing if you have no idea what you are talking about

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                stop arguing if you can't provide an argument you just look stupid

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Okay Mr redditor you win

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You being ignorant about the most basic of things doesnt mean people dont make sense when they talk

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                no argument means i won this debate

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                not how it works moron

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP. As long as it's relatively unprocessed, and need for moderation is obvious. Which is why I lean more towards meat and veggies.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >let me try to larp as a christian, maybe it will trick them

      Enjoy cancer

      >oh it didn't work, back to the "get cancer" posts

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      thanks king

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why does gigachad have a womb tattooo

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        wtf I never noticed that
        What were you looking at when you saw that anon?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >What were you looking at when you saw that anon?
          shut up

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The phytonutrients present in plants, such as polyphenols and carotenoids, possess potent antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that can stymie the progression of numerous diseases. Furthermore, plant-based foods are a superabundant source of fiber, which has been linked to mitigating the risk of various chronic ailments, such as coronary heart disease and diabetes. In addition to the compelling health benefits, plant-based diets also represent a laudable ethical stance against the exploitation of animals and the planet. By eschewing animal products, we demonstrate our aversion to the egregious environmental impacts of factory farming.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why are plant-based doctors so unhealthy?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Why are plant-based doctors so unhealthy?

        Ah, yes, the perennial question that leaves us all scratching our heads in befuddlement. Perhaps it's because they're too busy saving lives and advocating for a plant-based diet that they have little time to focus on their own health? Or, more likely, it's because they have better things to do than worry about the petty minutiae of their own physical well-being, such as researching the latest scientific findings on plant-based nutrition or promoting sustainable agriculture practices. But fear not, for their moral superiority more than compensates for any minor lapses in personal health, as they continue to inspire and educate others on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Perhaps it's because they're too busy saving lives
          >such as researching the latest scientific findings
          Lmfao. Average American doctor bootlicker. Doctors are glorified flowchart operators with inflated paycheques/egos who, forgoing exceptional circumstances, are the last in the scientific community to learn about the newest findings in medicine, health, and fitness. Taking one unit on nutrition in med school 20 years ago does not give the average doctor any credibility to advise diet and lifestyle choices. Do better, read, save yourself.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Are you fricking moronic?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They have plenty of time to eat they just don't get any nutrition from their food.

          Don't vegans have a moral obligation to eat animals so they can gain their strength, to save animals?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This guy is smart as hell but he knows absolutely nothing about religion and tries to prove people are herbivores from the bible and its so cringey and totally incorrect how he misquotes things

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >This guy is smart as hell
              Not really.

              He couldn't even get his vegan book published. It was about 'comparative anatomy' which is when he says
              >meat eaters have pointy teeth
              and thinks that's an argument.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Agree to disagree

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Where's Dr. Gregor's marketing?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >"reality"
          >a photoshopped image only appearing on vegan channels

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/30V5oEU.png

        Why do meat based diets cause people to rape children

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        One on the right is going to live longer.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the one on the right is younger lol

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So? He is still going to live longer.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No he isn't

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Vegans die younger or they give up the diet, there is no in between

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Except they dont so

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >One on the right is going to live longer.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Notice one of them isn't an egocentric know it all and is actually happy

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              notice the psycho stare
              he's happy to ruin people's health

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah thats why he donates all his book proceeds to charity

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A small price to pay for the suffering of millions, gotta keep up the appearances

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The cope is unreal

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >OMG think of all the hecking nintendo games you could speedrun and all the anime you could watch with the extra years from a hecking vegan diet!11!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >dying early as an insufferable headcase filled with hate is so superior

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Not unless he drinks children's blood.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this guy said the carnivore authors died before the vegan ones

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Left is on roids and will die of a heart attack age 60

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          of course the vegan is wearing gloves and homosexual cant see the difference in height
          scaling measurements in mass vs height must hard when you have permanent brainfog

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are plant-based doctors so unhealthy?

      Ah, yes, the perennial question that leaves us all scratching our heads in befuddlement. Perhaps it's because they're too busy saving lives and advocating for a plant-based diet that they have little time to focus on their own health? Or, more likely, it's because they have better things to do than worry about the petty minutiae of their own physical well-being, such as researching the latest scientific findings on plant-based nutrition or promoting sustainable agriculture practices. But fear not, for their moral superiority more than compensates for any minor lapses in personal health, as they continue to inspire and educate others on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle.

      >eschew animal products
      No
      >eschew plant products
      No

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The phytonutrients present in plants, such as polyphenols and carotenoids, possess potent antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that can stymie the progression of numerous diseases.
      Too bad the same plants come with a bunch of anti nutrients and other things that frick up your gut and health. Making the benefits either meaningless or not even worth it.

      >Why are plant-based doctors so unhealthy?

      Ah, yes, the perennial question that leaves us all scratching our heads in befuddlement. Perhaps it's because they're too busy saving lives and advocating for a plant-based diet that they have little time to focus on their own health? Or, more likely, it's because they have better things to do than worry about the petty minutiae of their own physical well-being, such as researching the latest scientific findings on plant-based nutrition or promoting sustainable agriculture practices. But fear not, for their moral superiority more than compensates for any minor lapses in personal health, as they continue to inspire and educate others on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle.

      >Or, more likely, it's because they have better things to do than worry about the petty minutiae of their own physical well-being
      A person who doesn't even see the value in their own health cannot for the life of them give a shit about my health.
      I will never, NEVER take health advice from a sick person.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Based. The little poison peddlers think they can outsmart us. Tough luck.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're responding to bait, autist.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >autist
          How is this bad? This website was founded by an autist for autists. How about you go back to the carb corner (the dialysis centre)?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If I didn't respond to bait, I would not post on IST at all. It's all "ironic" bait by people who need to be behind multiple layers of irony to feel safe about any opinion they might or might not be expressing.
          So I just treat every single comment as serious and don't engage in their 7 layer proxy posting.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Too bad the same plants come with a bunch of anti nutrients and other things that frick up your gut and health.
        That's why I eat meat. Glutathione is powerful antioxidant without the anti-nutrients and phytoestrogen of plants.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Check out fava beans for a good joke.
          The shit contained in them is so powerful in terms of oxidation, that if you have a genetic mutation that makes your red blood cell anti-oxidants weaker, your red blood cells straight up die to it.
          Favism is relatively common at 400 mil people who have it.
          Think about it.
          The beans even if prepared right, have shit that when digested by the human body creates highly reactive oxigen species that it will outright kill you, if your body can't anti oxidize it through 1 and only 1 mechanism for your red blood cells.
          Now, in healthy people, you still get the same level of reactive oxigen specifies, but your body is able to cope and quench it.
          Now think about how much focus we have on "EAT DA ANTI OXIDANTS THEY ARE GOOD FOR YOU"
          but no care or effort is placed on "avoid this food it's highly oxidative for your body!"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Please show studies that show the benefits of phytonutrients for the human body.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    carbs are the easiest group to overeat, especially sugar-filled processed garbage
    cutting out carbs is a very easy way to cut out on calories

    plant-based (ie. vegan) diets are also very effective since most plants are not very calorie dense but are harder to stick to because meat and dairy cravings are a lot more resilient and innate than sugar cravings

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This isn't exactly accurate. It is after you eat the carbs that your hunger increases due to it fricking up your blood sugar levels, which then increases your food intake.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Carb-only diet on cico. Mcdonalds meals only and i'm more shredded than you'll ever dream of.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Carb-only diet
      A moron has entered that chat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, now post yours, ketocel.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Please keep posting the ketoschizo shit. I need to reset my filters.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We will come up with new spins on it, there is no escape.
      You VILL eat ze fats and only ze fats

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    But the guy on the right lost a lot more weight and looks good now

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >keto
    >unlimited calories
    Ketotards at it again

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because humans evolved towards carnivory

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Unlimited calories.. lol. Anyway, I have found that low carb is much better for me and even when I didn't work out, I looked better than 99% of people at the gym. You just always look defined and muscular. The whole idea of high carb diets is pushed by the fricking scrum that push all of the other shit like vaccines and wars and everything else. It is a money making machine to pump out refined grains and turn them into a "product" with high margins to sell to people.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They simulate winter.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why do meat based diets cause people to rape children

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      three month sexual abuse? dude can last

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that's not only carrot juice

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he's a manlet, angle frauding and can't bench 3 plates who cares what some gay does

    • 1 year ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      > 10-05-21

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I only come to keto vs cico to get a good laugh

    >verification not required

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any sensible diet should be "meat based". Every single indigenous society bases its traditional meals around a certain meat or fish. It doesn't mean you need to be carnivore, it just means you should smart enough to realise that there might be some truth to the ancestral wisdom that nutrition comes from animals, not plants. Humans are evolved to obtain nutrients from species higher on the food chain like large mammals. Pretty much any nutrient you can think of is vastly more bioavailable from animals.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What you eat hardly has a huge effect on you

    If you are going to have a shitty body or a nice body it's 95% genetics and 5% diet and exercise

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The cico body is that of a man who lost 100+ lbs rapidly. The keto body is one that was never over 30 bmi before starting that meme diet

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    dunno
    don't care
    lost 20lbs so far on keto without having to think about it
    probably gonna have to count calories soon

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is a massive LARP lmao
    Post body with timestamp or get ratio'd.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Shows fit body for keto because it's a meme diet that only allows you to lose water weight realistically (aka bullshit diet)
    >Shows fat body that's melting the pounds away because cico is actually the effective way to lose weight non-moronly
    Like pottery

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The funny thing is the most sustainable long term cico diet does minimize most carbs fatties are familiar with. I actually did go full keto at one point eating almost pure protein and some fat just because it helped break sugar addiction. It's not a useless tool within a diet but it is not a long term diet

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah look at those pounds melt off with cico

      he's so slim!

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    cool story bro

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    CICO just means you like to quantify what you put into your mouth. It can help you fit in some high calorie foods you enjoy but tend to overeat. Plenty of people do low carb/high protein and count calories. Any serious body builder who wants to remain thin but get sufficient protein needs to count calories at some point.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The right pic is fake

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    According to absolutely everything they don’t. The more meat is eaten the higher the prevalence for obesity and disease.

    >inb4 some very short term study without body composition measurements

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Dr Harvard homosexualmorons who were paid by vegan "food" companies said meat bad therefore it be true nigguh

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how do I eat a sweet potato if im not allowed carbs????

    is it really unlimited calories or are you just saying that because usually the carb dense foods are also the calorie dense foods?

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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