Ironically, most Gymgoers (myself included) don't even have visible Abs but I'm currently cutting till I achieve a 10% body fat
Why do Normies like Abs so much?
Ironically, most Gymgoers (myself included) don't even have visible Abs but I'm currently cutting till I achieve a 10% body fat
its a sign of youth and virility, attractive features most men lose after the age of 23
Except it has stopped being a sign of both for quite a while.
those blotchy degusting chewed bubble gum protrusions are not abs lol
any old guy past 23 will universally look like shit
>hey dude these bodybuilder abs are not abs
Yeah, ok bro. Enjoy whatever level of copium you have about this topic.
they're just shit muscle insertions
post (you)rs
Well my 22nd birthday is coming up and I’m still trying to look better. You telling me I got one year left?
It goes beyond that. It displays a transcendental aesthetic that goes back to the ancient Greeks. The fact that people of the modern age cannot fathom as such due to debased intelligence does not negate the innate appreciation for beauty.
>recently went to an art museum
>saw an old Grecian torso in classical pose
>curator had the audacity to label such as 'idealized
>Wife comes up and says, "you're more defined than that."
>Look at her, then my daughter, and back to the marble statue.
>I've made it
Never give up, and no, I'm not posting my body for the homos on IST.
>and no, I'm not posting my body
trash larp
Grow up, anon. Seriously. There isn't enough vanity in this world for your eyes? Life is a larp. The hope is for people to move beyond their crude nature. Thanks for the You.
>Posts elaborate story about how his wife compares him to a Greek statue and that es looks even better then it
>cringe Reddit moment „LE looking at my kid and wife I have LE made it“
>noooo LE VAINITY IS BAD
dude you are allready vain,
What you are not is ripped cos otherwise you wouldn’t have a problem to proof your shit story. Ripped people love to show off their work you are a lying dyel.
>inb4 he will post some weird cope but not body
He's not wrong in his usage of the term though. Idealized wasn't used in the sense of "unachievable", it was in the sense of "this is the perfect male specimen" or something of that sort, in addition to being a work of the creator's imagination and not based off a particular model.
Good on you for making it though.
Understandable, and thanks. If anything, the feeling on my part is that such elements of the achieving of anesthetics is entirely within reach for most of us, and that is without the use of PEDs. I think the difficulty is the inability of the masses to break the bonds of insecurity that latch onto them from societal influences that aim to sabotage the human spirit, and that degradation transcends from spirit-mind-body. Thanks, and godspeed to you in this life.
>in addition to being a work of the creator's imagination and not based off a particular model
That's not true though. The majority of classical sculpture was based off of live models; athletes taking the place of folk heroes. The sculptures that are exaggerated, like the Farnese Heracles, are pretty blatant, and are still based on the body of live models
>im not posting body
Into the trash
Gem larp
and then the curator wept in regret at his mistake and offered to give you the statue for free while your wife and daughter blew me in the bathroom
coal
Cute, enjoy the only mires that matter
>my daughter
*Hits pipe*
You're not ideal you have overdone it like overcooking a meal. Ideal means having the perfect balance
>attractive features most men lose after the age of 23
>tfw 23
It's over isn't it?
I hate gayggots like you so much yeah its over for you you pointless worthless degenerate
How am I a homosexual?
its a sign of a bodybuiulding nerd.
>attractive features most men lose after the age of 23
men peak at 25 though
Average man is around 20% body fat, probably higher in some parts of the US
Average male supermodel is around 11% body fat on average
What conclusion do you draw from this info? That los body fat people (people with abs) are more attractive than fatties with high body fat numbers
I decided to take the Leanpill during the pandemic after a dirty bulk that made me fat and I think it was the best thing I could have done
The average man is above 30%.
i bet i could frick you
i bet i could frick you hard
It makes sense that you are a fricking homosexual, fat people are full of estrogen
Leanpill is truepill
>Ironically, most Gymgoers (myself included) don't even have visible Abs
How is that even possible?
Lack of discipline, ignorance, and the fact that most people are misled by the industry, and those they consider experts and, worse, "friends."
It's because of the
>if I cut I will lose my strength and size
cope meme.
Meanwhile their 'strength' is basically sub 1/2/3/4
And unironically from what I've observed, the gym ottermode twinks who bench 1pl8 look wayyyyyyy better than the bloated powersharter who deadlifts 200kgs.
That's just because you're gay
>t.powershitter
I'm with you initially, but, like I've been saying in other threads... I see a lot of half assing. Granted, I'm going to planet fitness mostly. But these people mostly aren't really working out intensely.
Quite a few couples where it's 1 set, chit chat, cuddle for 5 minutes, then the other person does a set.. oh wow honey, we killed that workout...
Meanwhile I'm supersetting, I'm trisetting, im doing a 4 workout circuit... dripping sweat.
WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS?!@
I'm in my mid 30s, 195, I've got a 4 pack going on, and getting vascularity in near my waist. Attaining a 6 pack is top of my list of goals. Also trying to get my lats to pop.
0jjj xx
this redditgay is unironically right
90% of the people i see in my gym aren't working out to the point of sweating and/or panting, even when doing cardio
dieting is harder than lifting weights
Because they never isolate them. They still think abs are made in the kitchen, or that their compounds will give them big abs.
irrelevant since most gymgoers have too much bodyfat anyways
Is doing ab roller exercise good enough to get some mighty abs
See
The ab roller is good, you could add in some sit ups or hanging leg raises as well though if you want to get some more work in. 4 sets of just ab roller a week might not be enough, add another 4 sets of another variation and you'll be good to go.
Ab wheel and planks are great for “core” as in stabilising, resisting moving, trans versus/internals, learning to brace better. But for hypertrophy you want something with contraction and ideally a loaded stretched portion, reverse crunches on a slanted bench are probably the best for this, for being able to progress, keep high time under tension, and isolate abs without hips/back compensating. Hanging leg raises are easier to set up.
impossible to not lose strength while getting the leanness needed for visible abs, unless you are a giga roider
False. Just cut slow, up your protein.
WAGMI
Not at all, what the anon said above, if you eat protein and actually use your muscles during a cut you won't lose much strength. I cut -800 for 3 months and some of my lifts did stall, but never decreased, some even still went up
biceps, back, rugby player thighs and phat fricking pecs will always be better than baklava tray abs
That's just because you're gay
I’m a woman
Sure you are, troony.
Ywnbaw 🙂
Abs are very rare and aesthetic. They are not that hard to get, you just need enough dedication which most normies lack.
The leanpill is very real.
What benefits did you experience after taking the Leanpill?
The amount of compliments is enormous, even if you are not that big
>even if you are not that big
Yup. For some reason that I do not understand, women equate muscular leanness with "muscle," a higher designation. Men equate muscle with "muscle."
Get lean, it works.
You automatically mog anyone who doesn't have abs, doesn't even matter if they lift more than you.
all b***hes like you and all men get frustrated as frick about you.
>all men get frustrated as frick about you.
Can't stress this enough. The amount of stink eye that I get from fats and dadbods is unreal
Face gains are real
If you are already handsome at a higher body fat get lean and enjoy. If you are not attractive do it anyways because there's a 99% chance you will end up looking more attractive than before.
>If you are already handsome at a higher body fat get lean and enjoy
>never been below 15% at most since hs bc antipsychotics fricked me up
>still had girls chasing me
I can't wait to see what happens when I cut
It's gonna be beyond your wildest dreams
t. a cutter enjoying the summer as a new man
That is pretty aesthetic physique, especially the serratus, upper obliques and abs and smaller chest. In my eyes this is kinda ideal for any male.
Looking at old photos, my gramps was pretty buff, same goes for my uncle. Both of them had small chests. I'm hitting it the hardest but you can't always outlift genetics. It was bigger when I was at 16-17% bf, but there you go. I guess I have that "bronze era" physique
Just be yourself (unironically). Different people/genetics can both look pretty good with different physiques, lean, little bit more bf% and strong look so I think you are going in the right direction. Anyway, smaller chest muscles are better for overall aesthetics. I mean not like plank flat chest, just some definition without it looking like you basically have breasts.
I'm pretty fine with my physique. At the of the day, the point of lifting is to reveal the best (natty) version of yourself.
Based
This gif makes me so happy. Look how much happier she is in each passing picture. All fat people should have that happiness.
hot forearm
>muh chest, I need le bigger chest, even though my acestors didnt have big chest ah I needddd it
get help anon stop listening to homosexuals on the internet about needing bouncing man breasts.
if you don't have abbies you're not a man, you're a fricking disgusting subhuman loser blob. frick you.
For me it was Dr. Kadowaki
>didn't find shiva's exposed breasts erotic
low t detected
Girl I just hooked up with spent around 10 or so minutes just looking at and feeling my abs while we were pillow talking
I tell people abs don't matter then spam them every day and never let myself get above 15%bf
This. I tell my people “girls don’t even like abs that much” and “my abs are genetic, even then they’re really difficult to maintain”
I want normies to not have abs while their girlfriends are licking mine and wetting themselves. It has happened before and will happen again. Abs are it.
Not even necessary schlomo. You could stand on the mountains and scream out that you must train abs to see results, and people still wouldn't do it.
Life is already hard enough brah, why demoralize and misinform?
>Life is already hard enough brah, why demoralize and misinform?
The same reason people bluff in poker. The chess player stares down his opponent as he consideres his move. The boxer looks mean before a match. The champion runners and lifters don’t reveal their techniques that got them to the top.
Because it gives me an edge. If they can’t see past my bluff, to look into what it really takes and make the effort, then they don’t really want nor deserve it in the first place.
You’re such a dyke
>Ironically, most Gymgoers (myself included) don't even have visible Abs
>why is this feature that made me standout is desirable?
Huh?
How do I make my abs pop more? I'm definitely lean enough and especially if I'm exhaled and flexing they're fairly visible. Or is it just not really possible to have abs popping while you are unflexed. In pic I'm flexing but not exhaling... I do 4*10 ab rollers once a week but thats the only isolation work I do, otherwise just deadlifts etc which might work them a bit.
Hanging straight leg raises every 2 days, 5-6 sets until failure
I have no idea how many compounds that hit abs he does per week and how hard etc.
The other thing is he could just not be crunching his core, if you stand as tall as possible, even if you flex your abs they will just make a solid wall, if you want them to pop, you have to crunch your abdominal wall, not keep it straight. That usually compresses the individual ab muscles and they are more visible. So in short, learn to flex?
Because 95% of the people issue with abs is that they are hidden by the body fat and getting leaner is THE solution that will get results.
Unless you get rid of the fat sitting on top of your abs, it doesn't matter.
Telling people to do more isolations when they should be getting leaner is a dick move.
>and I was squatting 295 for reps.
that's not enough compounds
It's common sense you can't see your abs if you're fat. But telling people to only do compounds for them is dumb. Just isolate them a couple times a week and you're good.
Abs are for gays. It’s a psyop to make you infertile from extreme dieting.
because its very aesthetic and hard to get
>planks with 15kg for 1min x3 everyday
>russian twists with 15kg for 1 min x3 everyday
>1 min sit ups x3 everyday
>1 min crunches x3 everyday
This is my ab routine that I do everyday after gym, takes about 10-20 mins (Depending on rest, how fatigued my arms are etc.). Still no abs bros... am I missing an excersise that I need to do, or is it just genetics/skinnyfat?
>abs designed to bring the pelvis closer to your chesy
>none of these exercises do
Gee I wonder
Planks hit core which is basically abs no?
Planks makes you better at planking. Do something that actually makes your abs contract to stimulate a hypertrophic response. Hanging leg raises or cable crunches come to mind.
Planks are an isometric exercise you want contractions for hypertrophy
Best ab exercises? Currently just do weighted decline sit ups
Those are pretty good, hanging leg raises are classic, also see how far you get progressing the weighted crunch machine, like the one that uses pl8s, you'll probably be surprised how much weight you can get on there
Unfortunately my gym doesn't have one that uses plates, there's a cable one that uses a stack, but i can max it out, and i never really feel it in my abs that much, I've tried lowering the weight and going real slow but i never quite feel it like i do weighted sit ups, will try hanging leg raises, need to work on my flexibility as i struggle to bring them up straight, always want to bend my knees which then makes it easier
Dang, that machine is how I got real mass on my abs. Just keep adding weight to your decline sit ups, best alternative I guess
For everyone in this thread talking about the lean pill. Leanness is not a sufficient condition for abs. Compound lifts are not enough. You have to isolate the abs hard multiple times per week. Otherwise you'll get lean and there's still nothing there.
Truss me I been thrrough it senpai
>Leanness is not a sufficient condition for abs. Compound lifts are not enough.
You are full of shit.
I mean look at this dude
they're there but are they really?
He's not, happened to me too. I cut down and was still pretty flat there overall, and I was squatting 295 for reps.
Added ab wheel and hanging leg raise twice a week and now abs are popping even after meals.
Why are people so upset by the idea of isolating abs once or twice a week. It's like 20 minutes a week.
I want the leanpill so bad bros
>have naturally low body fat
>abs don't take long to be visible without flexing, very visible with flexing
>find out most women care more about big arms and the V over abs
>ot one chick I've slept with has mentioned my abs, even while touching and licking them they'd rather talk about the V
>my v isn't even impressive
what V
Lower than where the pic cuts off
How can you tell if your abs are developed enough that it's time to cut?
But cutting first until you can see them, even if only a bit, then building them. Then work from there.
ita a sign that you work out and eat enough to get big but also have the self control to not stuff your face.
most people either have one or the other, but not both
it looks like he has tiny little puppies suckling him underneath his skin
To be honest I don't dare to cut. I was below 60 kilos when I reached my max height at 189 cm. Absolute skeleton, no abs unless flexing, although I wasn't lifting. Then my weight plateaued at 66 years later. I started lifting and made it to 80 kilos, first time in my life in my ideal bmi. Now I definitely only see my abs, when I'm flexing or laying on my back. I do ab workouts regularly. It'd be nice to have them constantly visible but I don't want to be a skeleton anymore either. I'm torn...
>why do people like lean, muscular bodies
Figure it out, moron.
Big chest, tris, and shoulders are mandatory for a fit appeal. Abs just make you more rare and sexually appealing. It's something not many people see or have unless they're Twink mode. I've never had them and been fine, but I am working hard to get them because I'm bored and wanna see myself with them
T. Former powershitter
>Big chest are mandatory for a fit appeal.
no.
That's so hot. I have to cut now
Bros, unironically whats a good routine to getting a 6pack? Id rather have nice abs than be huge
At what point should I cut? I am 6'0 tall and have bulked from 160 lbs to 180 lbs this year. I don't really feel like I look that different though.
I am considering bulking up to 190 lbs, and then start cutting. I can cut now but I don't really see any point, my arms are still skinny, my chest is still small and I don't look like I lift in t-shirt.
At what weight should I cut?
I'm 6'3 and bulked to 205 before cutting HARD, I dirty bulked tho
>Cut down 15 kg since Jan 1st, from 95 to 80 now
>at peak did 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5 for 1RM and 1/2/3/4 for reps
>Still have ~6-8 kilos to go
>Religiously hit abs 3 times a week now since April
Fellow not-naturally-lean bros, does the loose skin tighten and suck itself in, or do I need to like, supplement collagen and do sauna every day?
Because visible abs are the natural way healthy humans look.
Having abs feels great
Don't bloatmaxx if you're not ready to live the life
Stay lean and enjoy many mires from qts and yourself
Because turtles are cool