Why do roid trannies constantly seethe at and try to demoralize natty lifters on IST?
The fact of the matter is that natty lifting is harder but for the natty it's worth it to keep their health (physical and mental).
Are roid trannies just mad that others aren't ruining their mind and bodies like they are?
Why do roid trannies constantly seethe at and try to demoralize natty lifters on?
Why do roid trannies constantly seethe at and try to demoralize natty lifters on IST?
Disregarding your seethe about roiders, those guys are 5'5", 140lbs and are photographed in black and white which significantly brings out definition.
Eugene Sandow was 5'9
>immediate irrational seethe
You don't have to juice, bros. It's ok to be natty
>Someone disproves the roider cope
>N-No you are the one seething
Lol. Hey man, sorry to hear that roiders are 7 times more likely to try to commit suicide.
It's actually funny that both trannies and roid trannies have the same suicide rate. It's almost as if taking massive amounts of hormones due to mental issues is unhealthy.
It's ok to be natty.
Thanks for the continued (you)s to prove how un mad you are.
Yes anon. Mass reply, that will prove you aren't angry that other anons aren't on hormones
5'9 150,14% bf. I'd rather play golf honestly.
>Eugene Sandow was 5'9
so are you
This is some insane cope. Holy shit
They are afraid since once they get off the juice due to inevitable health complications, all of their gains will fade away.
>First post is a roid chud seething and trying to demoralize the natty just like OP said
How fucking predictabe
lmao'ing at you when you come off
zero gains assclown
I don't think I've ever seen a cope this hard
So what? They still look good breh
Most roidtrannies also look small in clothes while being equally lean despite having extra mass. Most.
It is what it is. Guys are natty and look great. What's the issue? Stop being mentally ill.
NO GOY WHY AREN'T YOU TAKING THE HORMONES
I'll stay natty as long as possible, but then Im getting robot legz. Being enhanced won't mean the same thing anymore. No one will give a fuck about roid chuds, when we're all switching out for robot parts.
Fuck off David
Fuck your mother; who's David?
Im just saying that it looks like the roids supply is going to dry up soon, so why not just stay natural, untik you can actually upgrade to something superior.
What ever you say Martinez
Meanwhile you are seething at them
It would be nice if we could actually have a discussion about these things without seething. Kind of an important subject.
>Why does one group of people seethe?
>calls them roid trannies
Seems like you are also seething
>Why are you calling mentally ill people with no balls and breasts trannies
You seem upset.
>Being upset with the word chud on IST
Are you going to seethe at the word gay too?
You have to hit muscle groups twice a week. Best routine for a natty is push push legs. That's 6 days a week. Your diet and rest have to be perfect and consistent. It's a huge investment. To get to the natty limit. Count at least 3 years. You'll soon plateau. Your recovery is shit, you feel sore all the time. By the time you start having a real job, a girlfriend, kids, you'll give up. You'll look as mediocre as deflated former roidheads.
Fuck this post hits hard. I don’t even have kids and my gf and job are total gains goblins
> tfw work 60 hours 6 day weeks and have to save my 1 day off to hang out with gf
Life is suffering
You mean 4 times. The best routine is 2 exclusive upper days and then 2 hybrid leg days with upper accessories
>TFW when your excuse for needing to be on hormones is because you waste all your time waging for garden gnomes
lol. Double L
>b-but it's hard
Goy don't you understand. It's hard so don't bother. Here take these hormones that will cause you to grow tits and cut your life short.
>a real job, a girlfriend, kids
neetchads win again
I lift just to get to the point where I can maintain with calisthenics and rooning.
Roid trannies are literally saying you should roid because they are lazy. This is why I have no respect for you suicides in training
>Count at least 3 years
Oh no! Not three (3) whole years!
If you think this is a long time, it's proof how young you are zoomie. Also PPL is not the best routine for everyone, lose the dogma gay especially for a routine you don't even seem to like.
>You have to hit muscle groups twice a week
>Best routine for a natty is push push legs
>Your diet and rest have to be perfect and consistent
It's because it's projection. It's a way for them to protect their ego, a lot of humans do this. They just want to feel better about their decision to roid. Natty is the goat
>Makes a thread to complain about roidchads
Lol someone mog your 2pl8 bench roidlets?
>Proves OP right by seething
Sorry, not taking the hormones chud
Most have hit a nerve. Want to talk about it anon?
>I'm not mad ur mad
This is just sad anon.
it's not roiders posting that shit, 99% of demoralization threads are from people that either have never lifted, or quit within 2 months. a huge portion of this board doesn't give a shit about lifting at all and is just here to troll.
Roiders have similar suicide rates as trannies. This mental anguish causes them to lash out. You see it even itt.
It's actually quit amazing what the body can achieve with nothing but meme exercises for a few years if you really are dedicated.
intensity + consistency + clean eating = incredible results on almost any program
the real redpill is that 5x5 is absolute trash, I fell for the meme for years. fucking gays of IST
if you want to get big and look good, up the reps.
I did 5x5 3 times a day and looked small but got crazy strong. I 1 repped max 3pl8 bench at 18 after 2 years of doing it. Dropped it for hypertrophy. I will probably never be that strong again but I look a lot better
*3 times a week
Low rep compound lifts + high rep accessories work beat for me. The ultimate secret is just eating clean and having responsible portion sizes.
Bodyfat and water retention will make any natty look like shit.
*Literally* just stop eating shitty goyslop, being fat, and retaining 20lbs of water weight. It's so simple.
PPL 6 days a week 3x8 for max gainz
The irony is that adding volume also helped me get stronger, I was barely progressing with 3x5
Fuck the natty vs roider false conflict
I stay natty because I'm not willing yet to take responsibility for my endocrine system
If you are, more gains to you friend, go for it. Why would I bitch and moan about that? Crabs in a bucket mentality is weakness
Hoping in future we have enhancers that just work without risk, and we all take them and ascend the human race. Unfortunately the chinese will probably do it first because they're the only ones willing to do gene editing
if a natty chud cares about hair loss and thinks they have the mpb gene i understand 100% Tbh and I encourage them staying natural bc hair is more important for looks than unnaturally large muscles, but I think natties that think they look more impressive than roiders are copers and delusional 100% of the time and they never post body Tbh. I've just not thought to myself "wow I want to be as big and strong as him" when seeing a natty on here. It's demotivational how unimpressive your natty idols are and I'd rather do a sport than bother lifting for that
>Not taking hormones makes you a chud
Roider chud logic
Sorry, you're objectively more feminine than a roid user. Literally they have higher male hormones than you so you are closer on the spectrum to female
They also have higher female hormone too. Have fun with your no balls and breasts. chud
>Has to take even more shit to deal with his female hormones
Fucking kek. 7 times higher suicide rate for a reason chud.
>doesn't take anything
>calls others trannies mid hissyfit over the internet
Ok guy, keep on Keeping on with your feminine tantrum because roidchad bottomed out your girl in front of you
Man you really are upset in this post.
>NO YOU HAVE TO TAKE HORMONES GOY OR ELSE YOU AREN'T A REAL MAN
>*Grows breasts and loses his balls
>*Get's a heart attack then commits suicide
Lol sorry garden gnome. Not taking your chud drugs
Lmao OK garden gnome, have fun giving the 30$ you could buy a vial of test for for fart powders. I just think you're pathetic and explained why senpai why are you getting upset lol. Can you make a logical argument about why roids are bad without sperging some shit about trannies while being more effeminate?
Lol roid rage is mad that someone isn't taking chud hormones.
7 times higher suicide rate.
>NO YOU'RE UPSET ROID chud REEEEE
T. 30(you)s in this thread
Hey man. Sorry, not taking your chud hormones. Have fun with your 7 times higher suicide rate though and breasts.
This guy is 100% going to kill himself. Don't do it bro.
>Objective fact that roiders have much higher suicide rates
lol roid rage.
Hey Bro do you want some ai? You seem very estrogenic naturally are you sure you don't have those titties natty?
>No take the hormones like me
Sorry, I don't want to kill myself or have breasts. What failed suicide attempt number are you on?
But i don't have breasts I just take my ai and have optimal hormones. You seem very estrogenic man you sure you don't want just one arimidex? Might fix up your soft natty titties bro
>B-But I don't have breasts
Sure you don't. Have fun with your suicide
>But i don't have breasts
Prove it. Post body. I want to see your fat tits chud.
Post saggy natty tits fella I asked for pics first.
You gays are so insecure it's hilarious.
Post c cups
>N-No I can't post my body i'm dirty bulking
Fucking kek. Roid chud about to kill himself.
Well I already tried 3 times so what makes you think I'm smart enough to pull it off the 4th time?
I'll have you know I can't post body because I'm dirty bulking and my fat tits are from eating ice cream not my roids I'm prettt sure.
>Already makes a cope
Come on, post it then fat tits. Let's see what killing yourself was worth.
It was a worth taking them (and sarms) so I could bench 255 for 2 reps last year so I could put it on my facebook and now that I think of it my tits are fat and muscles
>t was a worth taking them (and sarms) so I could bench 255 for 2 reps last yea
Holy shit. This is what gays roid for?
I was benching 255 for 5 reps when I was 18.
You have to leave humanity behind bro
>Taking roids just to bench 255
Yeah bro hulk out
Hey I got a ton of likes now that I can bench half my weight.
I did get lots of likes. If I up my dose I'll hit 260 by next year.
>so I could bench 255 for 2 reps
This is the most pathetic thing I have read here in a long time
gays taking roids to do what natties can achieve in 2 years is the funniest shit to me and make up 98% of roiders.
Good lord, are you fucking retards that stupid? Do those posts you replied to need a glowing neon sign saying "bait" for you? Wasted trips too.
255 would probably be seen as impressive to most of the gays I caught roiding at my local gym.
3 but that's beside the point. I have 4 pack abdominals best physique at my high school shower with 4 pack chad abs.
>3 but that's beside the point.
Thanks for being honest.
Well I just use Equipoise, which is an anabolic injectable like testosterone but has an aromatase inhibitor effect where I don't need to take typical aromatase inhibitor pills.
7 times more likely to suicide roid trannies really are desperate today. Are you having a mental breakdown?
It's ok to be natty
It's not ok to be a chud though. Sorry about your failed suicide attempt. I am sure it will work next time.
Not really. There are aromatase inhibitors. Actually the ratio of androgens:estrogens are higher in unnatural people and you get to decide the ratio. Sorry you're more estrogenic relatively as well. So you have less male hormones and more female hormones as a natural... Just to make sure you understand. Therefore you are closer to being a chud.
Have fun with your breasts and suicide rates chud
You're a chud because you're on hrt. Are you dumb, or pretending to not understand the moniker 'roid chud'
Golden and silver age look far more aesthetic than the roided freaks that came after.
Golden agers and silver agers were on the juice.
Golden yes but there is very little evidence that silver were on juice and definitely not bronze.
You guys really have to learn how to read full sentences.
Yes, they were on roids.
They were on LESS roids than the FREAKS of today and looked BETTER.
Hopefully the caps clarified a few things.
So just use the same amount of roids but no insulin and less carbs?
>don't give a shit
>Mass replies and makes a leftist meme length post
Lol. 7 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
I don't think those are roidtrannies demoralizing
garden gnomes and their hormone addicted cattle sure are mad itt.
Not really just explaining your idols look like shit Tbh. I guess you have low standards. It's ok I guess you must have the hairloss gene, I'd be mad if I couldn't use roids and had to watch others get jacked too.
This is the worst comeback I've seen on this site and that is saying a lot. Dripping with teenage pissyness you are, what a gay boy you turned out to be.
Why do roid trannies seethe this much that I refuse to take the hormones?
I'm not lol, just don't think your body is impressive and we're square guy
I don't think yours is easier but unlike you i'm not going to commit suicide.
I mean I'm objectively bigger stronger and more impressive, but ok lol.
I doubt that. You might be fatter though, I believe that. Probably going to need a big casket when you finally have a nice day.
Your the one on hormones. Post yours so I can laugh at your dead body when I see it posted online in a few months.
So I guess you do have natty titties and look like a skinny fat melted ice cream. Idk bro you sure you don't want some arimidex? It'll fix your imbalance.
>Doesn't post body
That's fucking hilarious. You are going to have a nice day just to take these hormones and you wont even post your ugly tittied body. kek
I asked first and you didn't deliver. Why would I post you're clearly delusional you'd say you're bigger than Ronnie Coleman lmfao.. Go ahead post tho let's see what natty gains look like
Lol roid rage. Have fun with your next suicide attempt. Maybe you will succeed this time!
I asked first you no you'd me. Go on, post. I just want to see an impressive natty so I know they exist. I might be motivated to get off roids if I do.
>Makes cope excuses
If you are going to have a nice day in order to make up for being a lazy gay not willing to lift you might as well post the body you have killed yourself for.
>The gay ruining his body and mind isn't even willing to post his body
Then what's the point of taking the roids then retard if you are still too insecure to even post it? fucking lol
Why do you care if people take roids? All of the "health and fitness" people you look up to are on it. Every good looking celebrity is taking some designer level of hormones. As long as people are honest about it, then why care?
But all the health and fitness people I look up to are people are know personally and don't take roids or are from the golden and silver age
You mean bronze and silver? The “golden” age was the age of roids
I don't. They can pump themselves up with roids. It's just that mentioning you don't want to take hormones here will lead to massive amounts of seethe from roid trannies just like this thread proves.
I haven't seen anyone on IST pressuring people to take steroids. In fact, the /fraud/ thread has a lot of people talking noobs out of taking gear unless they are completely sure of the consequences of it. I don't know anyone in the industry who talks highly about gear. No influencer ever sells the idea to anyone.
one day you'll come off and be a real chud, not a discount one
Roidtrannies scream insecurity, just imagine risking your health and reducing your lifespan just to bench few KGs more.
Roider like trannies already suffer from mental illness. The HRT is the last push to get them to finally commit suicide.
Oh yeah if we're so mentally ill why aren't our suicide rates as high as trannies? They start dropping like flies a few years after HRT. I'm in my late 20s on my 3rd cycle and I'm happy with my li-ACK.
>Hey man I don't want to take hormone therapy
>NO YOU AREN'T A REAL MEN THEN, REAL MEN GO ON HRT
Every roiders seethe ever.
OP doesn't even lift.
This thread is pretty entertaining kek. I only realise I didnt grasp the roid chud nick in full until now, the seethe and trigger and dismorphia.. you guys are mentally the same as lgbt retards but you dont even realise it
You've spent the entire thread sperging out, anon.
Not him but I just joined and I'm laughing at your dysphoria
>unironic "no u"
Big muscles (whoopy doo everything over 16" arms is huge to normies)
Natties are Kings.
Isn't it insane that they were able to achieve this not just natty but without any supplements and only doing standing exercises (bench press wasn't discovered yet and squats were only what could be physically lifted above you by the arms). It shows that the body has amazing potential.
The ancient statue physique is the peak of glory.
I'm back on the stupid light weights routine. Maybe the whole modern day gym and heavy weights was just a marketing plot to sell equipment to people hence it has become the dominant way of lifting.
>I'm back on the stupid light weights routine
Details? I once read a book by an English guy who gave his hypothesis on how sandow's light weight routine worked and showed his decent results.
The reason they roid in the first place is because of an inferiority complex and when they roid they become even MORE hormonal morones so of course they flip their shit at people not ready to kill themselves if their biceps aren't """18 inches""" (they lie about measurements too)
I'm fine with people ruining their bodies with chemicals, be it trannies or roid trannies. The issue is when they demand everyone else does it or tries to convince other people to.
The truth is that you can get a 1 in 1000 body for your age range by just dieting and lifting hard naturally. Roids can just take you in to 1 in 100000 territory.
>Roids can just take you in to 1 in 100000 territory.
At a cost. The former has no cost but good health. The latter rapid ageing and the rest of it.
Roidtrannies make it harder for everyone else just by existing.
Who is on roids or not? What programs actually work? If someone says something about diet or training, did it work for them because of roids? What is truly possible as a natty? Can't be sure. There is so much bullshit from the fitness industry to begin with to scam and confuse people. Now add in to that, the fact that many people just get their physiques from drugs. They don't have to train the way a natty would, or eat the same etc. They just add to the confusion that is already there, and make it harder for everyone else.
That's why silver and bronze age are so important. Bronze I think shows the lower limit and silver shows the upper limit. But with modern science we could probably go beyond even that.
theses guys are 4'8
FFS, look at their proportions
This is cope. We know their sizes
they dont, its (dyel) natty copers
>i will probably suicide if you insult me strong enough
You're already killing yourself through liver damage, left ventricular hypertrophy and increased cancer risk.
You're hated by natties because you raise the standard for being considered "jacked" to a point unattainable by people who give a shit about health and longevity.
The biggest white pill
>i mean i went to the gym 5-6 days a week for 1-1.5 hours a day and looked...meh/average/ex-obese/unhappy with my body. I roided still go to the gym 5-6 days a week for 1-1.5 hours of lifting and now i look fucking awesome
That's because you did a roider brosplit that requires increased recovery provided by roids as a natty.
>it worked on roids
Color me surprised.
Trensexuals irrevocably fucked their bodies and are in a state of perpetual cope.
Roiders are to Men the same way trans are to women
Best thing of the world is being called roider as a natty ,Just because I am jacked by doing lots of calisthenics
Fatsthenics are based and redpilled and Will give better results for fatties than any gym propaganda
>Just because I am jacked by doing lots of calisthenics
I promise nobody thinks your 5'8 140 lb ass is a "roider".
The trans meme is actually so fucking funny. I'm 6' 205 lb 11% bf and lift over 2/3/4/5 when I periodize/peak for powersharting autism
If you brought your girl to the gym I fucking guarantee you her eyes wouldn't come off me. I would mog the fuck out of you kiddo, like we would look like different species. "Trans" LMAO. I've probably fucked a dozen girls who had natty cuck boyfriends. Somehow a man bigger, leaner, stronger, and more athletic than you is a "chud". The level of this cope is absolutely atomic LOL.
Just say you wanna roid but are too scared!!!!!!!