Why do vegans argue that animals don't want to be eaten but when I tell them onion also don't want to be eaten they get butthurt?

Why do vegans argue that animals don't want to be eaten but when I tell them onion also don't want to be eaten they get butthurt?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Veganism is moronic.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    animals clearly have will in a manner that is similar to human, meaning that we can relate to their thinking
    whereas plants dont. while they can communicate—the fresh grass clipping smell being a signal to other grasses, etc—the idea of pain or will cannot exist in the same way
    also, what is wrong with reducing how much unethical consumption you participate in

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not unethical pussy, not an argument.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not unethical
        >rape a cow for milk
        >kill something for meat
        why do this when you dont have to

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cow breeding isn't rape, and farm animals will die regardless. The goal of life isn't to drag it out as long as possible

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cow breeding isnt rape
            let me fist your ass and see if you still feel that way

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Cow breeding isn't rape
            I'm hardly a vegan but you clearly don't know how farm animals are bred
            Let's say that the standards birds and bees don't quite apply

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm aware. Still isn't rape.

              >The goal of life isn't to drag it out as long as possible
              Right guess that makes killing humans okay. "the human will die regardless lol" Christ you're stupid.

              Humans have more purpose than survival. Typical vegan pilpul

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The goal of life isn't to drag it out as long as possible
            Right guess that makes killing humans okay. "the human will die regardless lol" Christ you're stupid.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ethics is a human concept manufactured by humans. Ants enslave without a care, most predators eat their prey alive and often in the most brutal fashion possible, birds destroy other birds nests and force the birds to raise their babies. Quit using manufactured guilt to explain why it is bad that humans are the best at being violent animals when the natural world is what made us this way.

          The Fish and Bird wouldn't think twice about swallowing you whole or pecking you to pieces. If you were a small monkey the Chimpanzees would not think twice about stabbing you with a stick.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why are either of those things bad.I am Still not finding any arguments in your posts homo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what is wrong with reducing how much unethical consumption you participate in
      because its a never ending masochistic and virtue signalling death spiral where the end goal is being a breatharian

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >le slippery slope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you must have not met many vegans in your life
          they are masochistic and virtue signalling morons
          and there are levels even to vegans
          reducing even the fricking plants you eat because there are ethical plants and unethical plants
          they're also almost always antinatalists which is fricking pathethic
          >noo dont do anything, nooo dont live, noo dont have children, noooo dont eat that, nooo dont move that rock, noooooo stop existing we are cancer!!!!!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you must have not met many vegans in your life
            brother, im vegan
            its simple as
            >dont eat animals
            >dont eat animal products
            thats it

            >whereas plants dont.
            >Freshly cut onions often cause a stinging sensation in the eyes of people nearby, and often uncontrollable tears. This is caused by the release of a volatile liquid, syn-propanethial-S-oxide and its aerosol, which stimulates nerves in the eye.[7] This gas is produced by a chain of reactions which serve as a defence mechanism: chopping an onion causes damage to cells which releases enzymes called alliinases.
            Don't care the Onion doesn't want to be eaten.
            Onion killer.

            >peppers are spicy ergo dont eat them
            take your pills schizo

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >peppers are spicy ergo dont eat them
              Literally yes?
              >has a defence mechanism
              >wants to be eaten
              pick one homosexual, you can't say you don't want cause harm to things you eat when you clearly eat things that want to stay alive and not be eaten.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                if you read the thread, i clearly wrote
                unethical consumption
                if i wanted to not harm anything ever i would kill myself

                >>dont eat animals
                >>dont eat animal products
                i will because thats what my ancestors ate
                veganism is a post modern autistic luxury based on false ethical questions and its unhealthy as frick

                >le appeal to tradition

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >le le posting

                and veganism is literally just
                >le appeal to emotion
                you homosexual

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >veganism is appeal to emotion
                >you can live without killing animals is emotional and not factual
                ???

                >>dont eat animals
                >>dont eat animal products
                i will because thats what my ancestors ate
                veganism is a post modern autistic luxury based on false ethical questions and its unhealthy as frick

                veganism isnt luxury. do you know how many millions of people lived off of beans and rice for the majority of their lives?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>you can live without killing animals is emotional and not factual
                why would I want to?
                you said "kiling" because you are trying to appeal to emotions
                like in your earlier posts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                how do you eat an animal without killing them, moron

                >When peppers are consumed by mammals such as humans, capsaicin binds with pain receptors in the mouth and throat, potentially evoking pain via spinal relays to the brainstem and thalamus where heat and discomfort are perceived.[25] However, birds are unable to perceive the hotness and so they can eat some of the hottest peppers.
                [...]
                >if i wanted to not harm anything ever i would kill myself
                You ideology is very inconsistent
                >animal suffering
                >not okay
                >plant suffering
                >okay

                >reduction of unethical consumption is inconsistent
                what is the consistent approach to life if im attempting to reduce unethical consumption, other moron?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >how do you eat an animal without killing them, moron
                nice deflection moron, keep ignoring my questions
                now explain how veganism isn't just
                >le appeal to emotion

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                because you are unable to move past one point, let me help you
                here is the full statement, because the transitive process eludes you
                statement: you can live a normal life without eating animals.
                this is an appeal to emotion, how? that, in order to eat animals, you have to kill them, is somehow an emotional statement, when it is factual. is it more factual to say "butcher," when that is a word used specifically for food? does that mean calling "poultry" "chicken" is an appeal to emotion as well?

                >what is the consistent approach to life if im attempting to reduce unethical consumption, other moron?
                Doesn't change the fact that if you eat plants that clearly have a defense mechanism like Onions and Peppers then you're still eating something that fights to stay alive and doesn't want to be consumed, homosexual.

                doesnt answer my question, what would make it consistent?
                for the umpteenth time, the goal is a reduction of unethical consumption. i take the bus as much as i can, i dont kill people, i reuse bags, etc. part of unethical consumption is animal products

                >the idea of pain or will cannot exist in the same way
                That goes the same for eggs or milk and other animal byproducts. Your ethics are fake and based on delusion.

                >chickens lay eggs for the purpose of your breakfast

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                statement: you can live a normal life eating animals.
                animals are healthy and tasty
                what now homosexual?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                sure, but you dont have to
                because you're a pedant, let me be clear
                while some people might say "you must go vegan," i am not saying "you must go vegan"
                i am saying that veganism, by and large, trends towards reduction of unethical consumption, and that eating animals is not an ethical action
                >but what about plants
                yes, back on topic, this is why its about reduction
                there can be no ethical consumption in a capitalist society (which all of the world is), ergo, reduction

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >sure, but you dont have to
                you also dont have to give up meat and animal products
                because they are tasty and healthy
                let me guess, you still buy sneakers, smarthphones, anything with a battery in it, despite knowing how much human suffering went into it in the 3rd world
                how is this any different?
                you are actually probably causing a lot more suffering to human beings by being someone who lives in the first world and consumes all the shit people usually do, especially electronics
                where is your moral high ground here?
                or do you only care about homosexual animals?
                >noooo they are toooo hard to give up i...i cant....

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >let me guess, you still buy sneakers, smarthphones, anything with a battery in it, despite knowing how much human suffering went into it in the 3rd world
                >how is this any different?
                did you miss when i said that there is no ethical consumption in a capitalist society? of course i have those things, and i still try to minimize. last computer i bought was used off of fb marketplace

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Christ you have such a loser mindset
                >Well can't end all suffering so we might as well give up and not do anything

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not him, but promoting veganism makes the world actively worse. especially for children and pregnant women.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Leading health organizations — such as the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the European Society for Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology, and Nutrition (ESPGHAN), and the NHS in the UK — advise that appropriately planned vegan diets are safe, healthy, and support normal growth and development in children.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Health professionals used to shill cigs as totally harmless as long as you smoke the approved brand and don't do it too much not that long ago. That's not to mention all the other nutritional moronation from the same era like the shit takes about sugar and fat. Nutritional science has NEVER been trustworthy, it's constant flipflopping because we have too many varying factors to establish any reliable causation for entire populations, we just come up with grade school tier correlations and pretend it's good science.

                Why would you assume we suddenly figured out nutrition? We can't even explain why a mostly vegetarian population (India) is at a higher risk of cardiovascular diseases and obesity than non-vegetarian populations. We have no actual explanations for the french and israeli paradoxes either, just wild guesses in a desperate attempt to make them fit into what is most likely a flawed model. Nutritional science is fricked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ignoring major issues and doing heavily unethical things is alright as long as you compensate by caring about much smaller issues
                So child rapists are immune to critique as long as they donate to charity, got it.
                >inb4 I literally can't live without [modern piece of technology]
                You can, you just don't care enough to give up the convenience. Like meat eaters.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                what the hell does the first half of this post mean

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Animal agriculture isn't a small issue. Everything you're complaining about applies to animal agriculture as well. Migrant and the poor tend to work in it just like how they do with technology and suffer life lasting psychological damages as a result. Not to mention the disease that spreads like bird flu, mad cow, swine flu. The environmental impact of defrosting to feed livestock. Humans suffer much more as a result of animal agriculture than they do as a result of technology, and even if they don't who gives a frick. Humans can speak for themselves. Animals can't.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >vegan homosexual is also a marxist
                HOLY FRICKING KEK

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >let me guess, you still buy sneakers, smarthphones, anything with a battery in it, despite knowing how much human suffering went into it in the 3rd world
                >how is this any different?
                did you miss when i said that there is no ethical consumption in a capitalist society? of course i have those things, and i still try to minimize. last computer i bought was used off of fb marketplace

                First off, kys commie. Second, maligning an omnivore for eating meat / animal products is ridiculous.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i am saying that veganism, by and large, trends towards reduction of unethical consumption,
                Not really.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of animals eat eggs, not just humans. Even other birds will eat eggs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what is the consistent approach to life if im attempting to reduce unethical consumption, other moron?
                Doesn't change the fact that if you eat plants that clearly have a defense mechanism like Onions and Peppers then you're still eating something that fights to stay alive and doesn't want to be consumed, homosexual.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >>dont eat animals
              >>dont eat animal products
              i will because thats what my ancestors ate
              veganism is a post modern autistic luxury based on false ethical questions and its unhealthy as frick

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >When peppers are consumed by mammals such as humans, capsaicin binds with pain receptors in the mouth and throat, potentially evoking pain via spinal relays to the brainstem and thalamus where heat and discomfort are perceived.[25] However, birds are unable to perceive the hotness and so they can eat some of the hottest peppers.

              if you read the thread, i clearly wrote
              unethical consumption
              if i wanted to not harm anything ever i would kill myself
              [...]
              >le appeal to tradition

              >if i wanted to not harm anything ever i would kill myself
              You ideology is very inconsistent
              >animal suffering
              >not okay
              >plant suffering
              >okay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More of a give an inch and they'll take a mile situation. Their goals are clear. The more agreeable people become to eat less meat, the more they'll be cumming in their pants and lobbying to have meat banned outright.
          Same shit with gun rights. Plenty of people that don't even own semi-automatic high capacity rifles will argue for it because they know once that's illegal they'll be after shotguns, pistols, etc. until all you can get is fricking BB guns and single shot hunting rifles. So the move is to shut the frick up and eat less meat if you think that's good for the environment, your health, wallet, whatever, but tell homosexual vegans you'll eat as much goddamn meat as you want and they'll have to pry it from your cold dead hands as your official stance. Welcome to American politics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >whereas plants dont.
      >Freshly cut onions often cause a stinging sensation in the eyes of people nearby, and often uncontrollable tears. This is caused by the release of a volatile liquid, syn-propanethial-S-oxide and its aerosol, which stimulates nerves in the eye.[7] This gas is produced by a chain of reactions which serve as a defence mechanism: chopping an onion causes damage to cells which releases enzymes called alliinases.
      Don't care the Onion doesn't want to be eaten.
      Onion killer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the idea of pain or will cannot exist in the same way
      That goes the same for eggs or milk and other animal byproducts. Your ethics are fake and based on delusion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >animals clearly have will in a manner that is similar to human
      The inverse applies as well.
      A hungry animal would not hesitate to eat me, therefore I do not see why I should hesitate to eat it when I am hungry.
      Either animals are like humans, in which case the inverse is also true and same rules apply, or they are not, in which case humans should not care.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would also eat humans, if given the chance. I'd do it with a full fridge, too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >animals clearly have will in a manner that is similar to human
      They don't have a will. They only behave according to instinct like many humans such as yourself. It has also been a contention among philosophers whether or not humans have a will in the first place. Nietzsche in particular stated that the human mind was a collection of contending wills competing for expression.
      >the idea of pain
      Not a factor worth considering outside of the fact that it increases adrenaline in the animal's bloodstream which makes their meat tougher and taste bad.
      >unethical consumption
      Sounds like WEF and communist nonsense.

      >not unethical
      >rape a cow for milk
      >kill something for meat
      why do this when you dont have to

      >>rape a cow for milk
      >rape
      Rape is how arguably many cases of reproduction occur in nature it was going to happen anyways. However, rape requires sex and artificial insemination (what you're likely referring to) does not involve sex, hence is not rape. When an animal owner wants an animal, say like a horse, to reproduce then they typically use artificial insemination because it is often safer for both the mother and the sire.
      >>kill something for meat
      Yes. That is the only way to get meat.
      >when you dont have to
      Meat is a natural part of the human diet and is needed for optimal human health. Moreover it has always been and will always be required for agriculture. Proper agriculture has always been a combination of rotational agriculture involving both pastoralists and plant growers as manure was required to fertilize the fields and the soil had to be periodically restored by running animals on them. The dependence on limited artificial fertilizers is a modern problem and easily fixed by a traditionally oriented agricultural reform while ignoring the modernists and vegan/climate misanthropists.

      The push for veganism is entirely motivated by misanthropic hypocrites who hate human beings yet have failed to remove themselves in accordance with their beliefs. If you really want to kys, remove yourself swiftly and don't waste any more time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure those pastoralists were very strong till their arteries blocked up with plaque in their 30's.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they wouldnt have coronary artery disease they didnt eat seed oils or industrial trans fats

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And eating saturated fat every meal of every day is better?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              nearly every food contains some saturated. it doesnt matter

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he still believes a scam from the 60's

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I'm clearly an unwitting shill for the potato industry or something

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      tremendous bait

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      eating plants kills way more animals. im being much more ethical eating nothing but beef and eggs

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/130620-circadian-rhythm-cabbage-vegetable-food-crop-science
    Fruits and veggies are living beings

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This isn't fitness related you fricking moron.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most plants want you to eat them because seed dispersal is how they reproduce in nature.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fruit not plants

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we breed animals because we want to eat more too

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hit car with a baseball bat
    >car alarm goes off
    >"WOW cars are totally alive and sentient!"

    Thats how stupid you sound.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know it's hard to understand but one is literally an object and the other one a living thing.
      A car doesn't die when you don't fill it with gasoline, it just doesn't drive.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Muh central nervous system

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're expecting someone who lacks the b12 for neurological function to understand an argument Anon.
    Please just enjoy your life : )

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plants can feel pain. That is a straight up fact.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the ethics hinges on sentience, hence oysters are vegan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The main argument why oysters are vegan-friendly is that they don’t feel pain since they have a very simple nervous system and no brain. Therefore, it’s believed that they cannot process or feel pain in the same way that other animals can.

      Vegans use the same argument to justify eating plants. So it’s viewed as hypocritical when we say oysters and other bivalves are off the table.

      Oh no no no no no

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be pepper
    >don't wanna be eaten
    >evolve capsaicinoids as self defense
    Clearly the peppers do not consent.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are carnicucks really this moronic? plants have no brain nor pain receptors unlike animals, and even if they would have those, to feed all the livestock you need 10 lbs of plant matter to produce 1 lbs of meat. So eating plants directly is best.

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