Why do young men nowadays always look tortured?
If you pay attention, you begin to see it - they always look like they're scared, nervous, tired, running away from something, frail, bags under eyes, lack of confidence. It doesn't even matter if they're fit or fat or whatever, you see this all over the place.
Look at pictures of young men from 30 or more years ago, you don't see this at all. You see lackadaisiness, confidence, masculine energy all over the place. Are we all living in hell?
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No, the problem is Gen-Z and the younger half of millennials grew up with smartphones being readily available most of their adult lives. Lots of them grew up with baby-boomer or older half of Gen-X parents who lived life on tutorial mode and were very israeliteed and brainwashed and (probably still do) watch the MSM unironically and they put their kids on SSRIs. Mental health (ADD, Depression, etc) is mostly bullshit, if nothing else, is completely overdiagnosed. Combine that with these people have unfettered internet access 24/7/365, combined with whatever poison the oligarchy is putting in our food, plus everyone getting a participation medal, lots of people growing up without dads or male role models of any sort, and some kids just quite frankly not being forced to work, play sports, hit on women, or do any sort of activity, you have arrived at the Dystopia they call 2022. The other issue is back in the day if you disagreed with someone on something, or you were a fricking weirdo, in like 1998 you were told that you were a fricking freak and to grow up, and you did. Now, for example, if you want to frick a toaster, there is an online community for that. This is what I believe has led to the rise in incel-dom. Lots of little zooms are totally and completely apathetic, demoralized, and brainwashed. They think they'll never be able to own a home, working is moronic, and women are terrible. So they sit at home because their shitty parents don't force their hand and kick them out and play video games and get radicalized on places like IST (or on the other side of the spectrum, reddit) or whatever it might be. They echochamber themselves and DGAF. This is bad for social interaction and stunts maturity IMHO.
Basically the internet and drugs has ruined people. And the worse part is they're content with it. No one seems to care.
Unironically the best way to fix this is to get off the internet, including IST. In fact, goodbye
>t. boomer
you describe dystopia and then follow up with a "just apply yourself and give clownworld a firm handshake"
peak boomer mentality
Nah bro I'm 30 I'm just successful and have a wife and kids and got girls in my 20s unlike the majority of losers on this site.
I'm literally just telling you to workout and get swoll, save money, and work hard. Buy some land, become a man. Learn to cook hunt and fish. Hit on girls.
You make your own trail in life. Expecting the government or someone else to do something about it is foolish.
I don't really see why this is a controversial opinion. No one is saying the boomers had it harder than you or anything, obviously they didn't. I'm just telling you to do something about it and quit being a little b***h whining about it.
>You make your own trail in life. Expecting the government or someone else to do something about it is foolish.
Muslims get government housing & payments for each of their 10 kids, they're living their best life, mogging the system you pay for.....
Cite specific examples. How much money do they get? How big is the home? You call me a boomer yet you parrot boomer talking points.
t. Have been on welfare, its not that much money
>the biggest issue with 'welfare' is the healthcare. 70 million americans on medicaid/medicare. That is where most of our welfare money goes, not poor immigrants or blacks
>70 million
>I'm literally just telling you to workout and get swoll, save money, and work hard. Buy some land, become a man. Learn to cook hunt and fish. Hit on girls.
This homie is correct. Just focus on these things and you'll be ok. Kids today are just lacking self reliance + risk taking.
how tall are you
>Reddit spacing
>I'm literally just telling you to workout and get swoll, save money, and work hard.
Yes, let's slave away like a goy for peanuts... uh-oh inflation is 'officially' over 10%, sucks to be you!
>Buy some land, become a man.
Outpriced of EVERYTHING but yes, just do the things you're gated out of to become the thing that allows you to get in proper.
Lead deficiency causes schizophrenia.
Because it decreases IQ to normie standards and you stop noticing all the "schizo" patterns. I was genuinely considering giving myself minor lead poisoning at age 18 because I wanted to be normal
Because many questions in the tests depend on principles that are the basis of delusion. You really, really are not smart, you only construct nonsense in your head.
I do take lead.
>Now, for example, if you want to frick a toaster, there is an online community for that.
Link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/toasterfricking/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/toasterfricking/
Thank you anon. Lately I've been feeling a bit "burnt curious."
>They think they'll never be able to own a home
The vast majority of people in Gen Z will never own a home because of land speculating megacorps buying everything up and entitled boomers wanting to profit from just existing.
>working is moronic,
Wages have been stagnant since 1970 and recently dropping due to inflation. If you didn't get a 10% plus raise this year you LOST money. Cost of living and raising a family however has skyrocketed. You would have to be moronic to think working will get you anywhere unless you're self employed, which is getting harder every day.
>and women are terrible
If is a fact of life that the women's liberation movement and feminism has created generations of vapid, lazy, angry prostitutes. It is literally better to be single than stuck with a liberated bawd. And even if you're fine with all that, and want to take a chance settling down anyway, you're still going to get divorced most of the time.
I agree with you on a lot of points but if you aren't born lucky or in a rural area there's basically no reason to even try. I'm not advocating degenerate apathy, but I understand why it's a popular choice with urbanite zoomers.
yep seen these replys before I know everything is hopeless you should just have a nice day
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okay anon, see you tomorrow
you know what ? Frick this shit I can still save myself, it's not too late
good bye everyone
>Mental health (ADD, Depression, etc) is mostly bullshit
And that's your takeaway from the era we live in right now? Holy cow.
Did you skip the remaining 80% of his post and take away that his entire takesway is just that? moron fr fr no cap
fbpb unironically
>read first sentence
>its the phones fault
>stop reading
>In fact, goodbye
See you tomorrow, bro
the truth hurts sometimes, ergo the seething (you)s.
>women are terrible
Used to be too worried about this. Terrible women still exist, but theres plenty of good ones out there.
>Unironically the best way to fix this is to get off the internet, including IST. In fact, goodbye
Yeah, I need to get out of here
>plenty of good ones out there
Then why are they single?
ADHD is not a mental health issue you complete dumbass, it's neurological.
dubs and i leave this place forever
rolan
rolling eternally
Roll
Rolling for myself
Ya know you’re right, goodbye internet
>Unironically the best way to fix this is to get off the internet, including IST. In fact, goodbye
See, this is why we call you right wing morons. Even when you have a brain and slowly begin to realize a problem, you have surface level thinking, so then you begin promoting stupid solutions like "get off the internet".
But that's an unrealistic and pointless solution because its an impossible choice. So basically, why even say it?
Don't forget, that right wing morons on IST are such cowards that they actually took the vaccine, and a dozen of moronic vax shills are dead or expericning problems. But they cope to themselves. I believe the new excuse among them is that the "vax wasn't good, but it wasn't bad". A cope to deny the fact that they are cowards who were easily coerced into injecting unknown shit into their body over a nothingflu and destroying their immune system. Meanwhile, intelligent real Leftists never took the vaccine
This is an incredibly good post, I especially love this bit:
>or you were a fricking weirdo, in like 1998 you were told that you were a fricking freak and to grow up, and you did. Now, for example, if you want to frick a toaster, there is an online community for that.
This post both wins and defeats the internet forever. Every word is so true, especially the last line.
So anyway.
>tumbleweed
>clicks "[Return]"
>they'll never be able to own a home, working is moronic, and women are terrible
All of this is absolutely true
>They think they'll never be able to own a home, working is moronic, and women are terrible
this is fact, homosexual
With that attitude…
homosexual
Democrats and every major corporation or power broker in this country are in league with satan , every decision made is in the pursuit of their satanic rituals like abortion, they aim to move us further from God every day and these people you see are suffering from pain in their soul
Hope your medication becomes affordable bro.
I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS FRICKING homosexualS, THEY LITERALLY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN SCARED SPINELESS homosexualS UNLESS YOU FORCE THEM NOT TO BE YOUR BRAIN IS A CHILD UNTIL LIKE 30 YEARS OLD
What is there to work for?
My brother actually "made it" in IST sense of the word
>got educated
>got 6 fig job
>got a 7/10 GF and married her
>got a nice house (better house than even what our boomer parents have)
>has tons of friends
>has to travel for his job and works with professional athletes
>basically an easy high paying career that involves a lot of traveling and being with high status people (hence how he found his wife)
But yet I see it on him, Im his brother, I know him best, he is really not that much different mentally than back in the 2000s when he was a shut-in NEET playing counter-strike all night and sleeping during the day. Its like he made it, but doesn't have a happy attitude about it, he just seems as miserable as he was when he was a NEET gamer.
I will also mention the fact his wife has rich parents, so financially, he will NEVER have to worry about money. His net-worth basically quadrupled the moment he got married because his wifes parents handed her so much shit. If he ever gets divorced, he will benefit so much from it, so even in that situation, hes made it....he got married to a rich woman, if they ever get divorced, he leaves the marriage better off than when he entered it.
Found some dicky that is rich af. Trying to groom her into becoming my qife so i can live lide on EZ mode.
She 16 only two years to wait
Based. If she has a sister, send her my way anon.
>What is there to work for?
Sex, Money, Toys, Having your own home/farm, Taking Hunting Trips, Fishing Trips, Women, Children, being able to not be dependent on someone else for your livelihood, entertainment, etc.
I don't understand NEETs. First of all your parents are shitty, they should kick you out and force your hand, Second of all what are you going to do when they die? You do realize you have to pay for that home you're living in, right?
>You do realize you have to pay for that home you're living in, right?
Im gona be like one of those people that goto court and fight the eviction or foreclosure charges for years/decades and come up with 10,000 different excuses and drag it out forever
I honestly wish I could meet some NEETs parents. I would like to ask them if they think they're being a good parent by treating their 27 year old like a 7 year old.
I would imagine they have low self esteem and are afraid their kid won't love them if they give them the boot
There's a friend I know for a lot of time who is basically becoming a neet/hikikomori. I think it is because he didn't success in finding a job and that is just making him incredibly depressed. He is almost 33 and I don't think life is good for him right now. He doesn't want to go out and the 2 or 3 times a year i see him he wants to hang out only down his house, he doesn't want to do the fun stuff he used to do back then. I think I understand the reasoning but I don't like the way he is approaching them. His family is divorced and maybe that could have also lead to this, I don't know.
My mom enables my sister to live a NEET life. I eventually blew up at her for how she is enabling my sister to fail in life. I am now outcast from that side of my family, probably for the best to not associate with those who stagnant their entire lives.
"Honor thy mother and father" has always been the number 1 thing I could not ever wrap my head around. If you parents left you ill prepared for this world, not even "gibs me everything for free", but enough to where you feel like a moron that should know certain things by now then you have every right to cut them out of your life.
Is your sister hot?
You described my mother with my sisters. I would probably be the same way as they are if I wasn't internally motivated. She says that she's letting them do things at their own pace and they both finally have jobs now but damn.
If you are or are in danger of becoming a NEET, you're unironically better off joining the military to get some skills for employment. Be a POG unless you really want to be fricked around with for 4 years since it's peacetime anyway.
Wow, you're a bonifide fricking moron.
how so?
holy shit this sounds so depressing
glad i gave up on the normie dream
availability/sample size bias, sorry bro
>What is there to work for
Your heckin careerino and your personal brand, don't be antisemitic anon!
>Sex, Money, Toys, Having your own home/farm, Taking Hunting Trips, Fishing Trips, Women, Children
All meaningless boomer bullshit
>owning property and having children is meaningless
tell me more
be honest, are you israeli?
It’s almost as if the guiding theory of happiness in the affluent, technological society is completely wrong. Maybe material well-being is less than nothing on its own, and man needs to be connected to some transcendent horizon, which is ruthlessly repressed by the prevailing attitude.
yeah
absolutely. metarial wants/needs alone can't feed the human spirit.
This so much. You can work down a checklist of "house, gf, 2/3/4/5" all you want, but men are mentally wired to pursue some larger-than-life goal. Unfortunately we live in a world where this is not possible anymore. Nothing to explore, discover, or conquer anymore. I know that sounds edgy, but I think a lot of guys are feeling like this.
He didn’t make it he’s a wageslave house Black
Yeah that's literally depression.
for the difficult
>Traveling for work
sucks
>Not working for yourself
double sucks, no wonder he's sad
>Pay half a million dollars minimum to buy a house in a frozen wasteland ran by an extremely corrupt regime
>pay 1500 a month to rent a 1 bedroom apartment in the ghetto and your neighbors are junkies given free apartments
I'll move out when I've saved enough money to leave this shithole country
its because he has depression you FRICKING moron
wait until his wife cheats on him. divorce, alcohol, then he offs himself. dont rememember this comment once it happens
omg why are why are modern men heckin tired and suicidal?
>80% of modern men
>no gf
>no job
>no family
>no house
They do have a job, they're paid peanuts
also called slavery
We live in a society that's completely stacked against us and the only thing keeping us from ending it all is ~~*them*~~ dangling pussy in front of us like a carrot on a stick even though most men aren't getting any pussy.
I agree society is worthless and hopeless and anyone not married by 25 and who doesn't own land by 30 should be forced to commit suicide
>not married by 25 and who doesn't own land by 30 should be forced to commit suicide
You can be happy without either of those things boomer
Incel rates for men in 2018 was like 30%
Imagine it now with covid and all kek
Like this.
>More girls haven't had sex in the last year than boys
what happened blackpillbros I thought all women were supposedly prostitutes????
That's bullshit. Probably self reported stats so more men will try and say they're getting some and women will lie and say they're still pure.
please go outside I'm begging you. These mental gymnastics are too much. How do you explain the years before where they were lagging behind?
Blackpillgays like you always claim that we are living in an age where bawdshaming no longer exists so you'd expect the number of girls lying about not having sex to be lower than in all previous years.
bawd shaming definitely still exists and when asked about bodycounts women will try and hide it because they're instinctually ashamed.
But women in the past have also lied in the past unless you're claiming that women prior to ~2018 were lying less about their body count.
Women in the past had husbands.
>under 35
Stats are skewing the other way since probably the late 20s-35 millennial men are higher value and the roasties in that cohort nobody wants anymore.
Some zoomer youtuber predicted it to be about 40-45%, seems right
see
You are wrong
>Why do young men nowadays always look tortured?
Products of their environment.
>Are we all living in hell?
Yes. One could write endlessly about this, but the jist of it is that the default way of living today, as in the way we're funneled to live our lives through culture and propaganda among other things, is detrimental to us physically, mentally and spiritually. We live in a society that is actively hostile to us, and if one doesn't make a concious effort to live in a different way than the default, that hostile society will destroy us.
In order to not become one of these empty husks you see walking around, one first has to understand that the correct way of living as espoused by education, media, mainstream culture and so on is harmful. Most fail here and simply never understand that these things are their greatest enemy. Instead they continue to "listen to the experts", watch the news, watch goyflix, and feel worse and worse with each passing day.
Imagine you're born into a society with original sin (the basis of many western religions). You have no salvation inherent to your existence. You live a cursed life and due to the nature of your innate crime, you must be punished by society. But unlike religious dogma, there is 0 hope for salvation. You will never be able to atone for your crime through your deeds, suffering, or sacrifices. You will be forever condemned, and death will not be your salvation, just an end to the feeling as your name will continue to be cursed until totally forgotten.
That is the modern male. The abundance of them has allowed others to take advantage of their existence (including other men) and scorn them just for existing. A woman can really only be faulted for her actions -- she is too valuable in continuing the species, even if she chooses not to procreate. But men are by and large a low value, replaceable commodity at best, as a detriment to society at worst.
Black men are inherently crime-prone and violent. Latinos are basically migratory slave labor. Asian men are embracing female comforts and feminine existences. White men are thought criminals and the reason for the persistence of much of society's problems.
At least if you believe the narratives being pushed in the mainstream. And it's continually worsening with increasing antisocial behaviors. Imagine what would happen if a young woman parked herself on a street in a major city, and continued to shout "I WANT ALL MEN TO DIE". Now expand that audience to worldwide scale and you have Twitter and Tiktok users. Even if this represents fractions of fractions of the population, the omnipresence allows this stuff to remain conscious in people.
Men are born to struggle, but there was always a sense of salvation or rite of passage to justify that suffering. But that is disappearing, and men are left with lessening purpose.
This, the problem is Black folk, women and democrats
You forgot one thing, one group, one tribe
>Men are born to struggle, but there was always a sense of salvation or rite of passage to justify that suffering. But that is disappearing, and men are left with lessening purpose.
This right here folks
>>Men are born to struggle, but there was always a sense of salvation or rite of passage to justify that suffering. But that is disappearing, and men are left with lessening purpose.
The book King, Warrior, Magician, Lover talks about this. Our society no longer has (official) rites of passage from boyhood to manhood.
Solid suggestion.
Its interesting to see how telling are the results of these lack of rites. The rites dictated the values the man should espouse to be accepted within the community. Now we are raised on vague virtues mandated by either governing organizations, or random women who have no real stake in the outcomes of these boys becoming men.
Lost boys become lost men.
does that book offer any solution?
Its techniques in the conclusion to help you develop the archetypes of Man psychology are basically:
>introspection
>find a mentor/role model
>fake it til you make it
1/2/3/4
I became a man when I pvped for the first time and was left standing (in minecraft).
based and high iq pilled
no normie shall understand
Beautifully put
For us, there never was a choice to or not to walk the path of perdition, we were born unto it. We are the Sons of Perdition and will eventually usher in total oblivion with a sense of pride in our deeds.
Yeah, thats really well stated
>Men are born to struggle, but there was always a sense of salvation or rite of passage to justify that suffering. But that is disappearing, and men are left with lessening purpose.
Poetic
Couple of reasons:
>The state of the mean against the price of good
>Covid
>The realisation that they aren't israeli and likely doesn't hold the key to genius
>Inflated dating market
>Porn
>Selling their BTC for drugs when they were teens
>Mainstream art doesn't inspire, All a quick dopamine boost
>Fat
>False ideologies get recognition
You have to understand that the current generation of young men have been told since birth that they are wrong and toxic just for being males. "Masculinity = BAD" since birth.
Show a single trait of masculinity, get shut down and accused of being toxic by the entire society. While in the past masculinity was not only seen as a good thing, you were also highly encouraged to be as masculine as possible. Literal opposite of today.
Combine all that with smartphones and social media and suddenly you have the death of a male.
Anons here like to make fun of zoomers, but they were fricked big time from the start. Imagine being shut down to be a man your entire damn life, in puberty especially. You are wrong because you're a man.
I doubt this will end well.
Few try to reclaim it and those that do end up being insane in value the fact people here care about there looks masculinity or even minmaxxing shit like sleep means we are trying to fix the damage society has do d
>WGMI
The minute a zoomer feels anxious, doctors turn them into pill popping zombies. It’s a tragedy.
this. i was feeling anxious and just needed guidance on how to handle it better because I couldn't go anywhere during covid, had to live shut in with a hellish roommate and my job was pounding me while not paying what i needed. Had to have a 15 minute consult with a "doctor" online since they wouldn't let me have an in-person appointment. "Doctor" heard me out and without even getting a feel for anything he prescribed me SSRI's. It made me feel better for a time but then severely apathetic at the 6 month mark. Got off it and just did research on my own to figure out how to handle anxieties better. Never letting my kids take the SSRIJew
If I could get some damn pussy for once I’d be set for life tbh
Young men have always looked like that, most of it is just lack of sleep and alcohol.
> Look at pictures of young men from 30 or more years ago, you don't see this at all.
Because nobody had a camera on their phones 30 years ago, so people only took pictures on special occasions or when they were specifically posing for them. So of course they made sure to look better.
~~*((Why*~~*~~ could it be?
isn't unemployment at all time low?
You need to understand the difference of unemployment versus labor participation rate. Also, while you're there, research how the measurement of unemployment has changed throughout the statistic's history.
>Why do young men nowadays always look tortured?
Internet addiction.
No, really. You and me too, bro, we look the same. Take a selfie with a random timer. You'll see.
It's all so tiresome and I'm not even 20 yet. idc about what the boomer homosexuals have to say because their boomer homosexual generation before them said it to.
>was allowed to get unrecoverably obesse before 12
>parents just sit and smoke weed and watch tv all day
>allow me to just NEET if i feel like it
>expect little to nothing from me
>they have massive debt but neither work, dad cant work and didn't invest shit
I have to lose the weight by 20 to pay for surgery to even begin living like a human, I then have to climb through CS degree to pay for things I want to do becasue I ahve no money, I won't graduate till 24.5 because my high school literally fricked me on my math, they actively held me back for 0 reason and it fricked on my credit listings.
Some other things that I don't really care about but since it's a LE DOOMER POST I might as well add it for another moron who can say he's just like me
>never even had a girls number
>one "Friend" I go to the gym with, he typically just takes more time out of my day then I'd like though
>0 social actvities, all my hobbies are isolated
>can deal well in social situations like work or school, but all of it was a learned process, I don't actually enjoy talking to anybody for anything, but they all seem to love talking to me.
>Everytime I get angry I stopped getting mad, I would just physically tense up, almost like in bladerunner where everyone gets that gif, I now just suppress my emotions through some other mean
>Literally just sit here with the same face everyday and never have an elevated change
I just decide to abuse stims to lose weight the rest of this weight, but on days I "feel like it", despite not actually wanting to, I'll binge eat and hope one day the stims + binge eating just croaks me. It got pretty bad this morning, I popped the ECA stack and then ate 3 tubs of ice cream, my post is somewhere up. My chest was fricking pounding but it's fine now, gotta go kill my legs today in 65 minutes boys
>3 tubs of ice cream
Jesus christ. How is that even enjoyable past the first tub? Or are the tubs that small?
It wasn't enjoyable on the first tub anon....
lol have a nice day
I'm not even joking your parents failed you and the world would be better without you
I'm literally trying to -the act of just killing myself. Doing more and more extreme shit till I just croak is the way to go
I'm not gunna lie when I first saw your post I wanted to help you, but you seem so depressed that anything I would say you would shoot down or make an excuse. I'm old enough to realize I can't help people like that, at least over the internet. If I were your father I'd kick your fricking ass and throw you on the street and force you to grow up, but I'm just some anon. If you really want to improve your life we can help you but you don't really want to improve your life do you? You just aren't happy unless you're miserable
I wouldn't shoot it down anon, I am miserable but I will always be miserable. I firmly believe that I will never be happy, but I can only be happier than I am today. I literally hate myself, everything I do is never enough. I'm learning how to make money, luckily enough I can figure out how to socialize as my parents are good at that, don't really care for a relationship, and attempting to fix my diet and lifestyle (well ignoring the episodes of just frick its).
The truth is, none of it has helped me, in fact it just switched my misery from, oh I'm fat, to oh I'll never look good. I just don't ever complain about it, accept for some reason today I just had to vent. I typically just drag my feet through the glass and accept that it might, just might be better if I finish it, deep down I think it won't, but what if it will. I always wished I could just, spectate myself, just sit here and not have to actually live, but whatever.
>workout
eating right, exercise, losing weight is better for people's self esteem. The first time you get a 'mire' or a compliment from a random person does wonders
>get a good job
every job sucks, work fricking sucks, i hate working, even if i did something i enjoyed i would hate it because it is a job, but it allows you to do stuff outside of work that is extremely fun and rewarding like travelling, hunting, fishing, bars, vacations, whatever. The alternative is to be reliant on your mommy and daddy or the government, and you really don't realize how easy it is to attain copious amounts of money until you actually get into the real world and go "YOU'RE GUNNA PAY ME THIS TO DO X" Yes, its that easy. Advice given to me I liked "work to live, don't live to work"
>hit on girls
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Obviously don't shoot your shot with a girl you have no shot with, but if you are even moderately skinny women will give you the the of day. if you're fat, well congrats because fat women give the best head.
>learn to cook
This saves money and is an enjoyable hobby, women also like it
>hunt/fish/garden
This shows you how to be self sufficient and quite frankly, its fun
You may still be a miserable frick. My wife tells me I'm a 'glass half empty' guy all the time. I believe once you take the red pill, eventually you get to the black pill before you get to the white pill. However, you have a maturity and a grasp on life and enjoy it and don't sweat the small things anymore. I was a fat loser dweeb, I was homeless for a bit, I never got pussy until I turned 23 and got thrown out on my own and had to make my own way. So it can happen anon. I'm not going to lie to you, its hard, but life isn't about how many times you fall, its about how many times you get back up.
Anyway good luck man. I'm rooting for you at least.
Thanks anon... I'm in the process of most of these and I really hope somewhere down the line it flips one day. Like I said in the Original post, my current life feels so hopless, but I almost "planned" to have it be miserable until 25, it seems that I won't be done until then.
>Working out is just about the only thing I do I enjoy now, 3-4 times a week ULx Routine
>My job is fricking shit, park maintenance for the city, to be fair it would be a solid job if I had 0 grain of self improvement but I simply can't do it full time knowing it can be better. (I do it part time because in schooling for CS) Seeing these old guys all battered and bruised, and seeing these people say how tired they are after work just makes me depressed, I never feel tired or bruised after work, but I know it will catch up to me.
>I'm "talking" talking to this girl at the cash register at one of the local grocery stores, I was gonna ask her if she wanted to go somewhere, but I ate that ice cream and now feel pretty bloated and look like shit, but I was thinking of just acting like I did it because I had nothing to do, then trying to find a way to make it seem like if she went with me somewhere I wouldn't do it (she knows I'm dieting)
>Dad is a great cook, if his legs worked I'd almost wish he'd open a stand or a restaurant, luckily I got that skill from him. At least I enjoy my food, all that matters.
>I can fish, never really cared for the actual baiting act, but the waiting and such is pretty nice, dad never took my hunting, but I get the gist of it, I couldn't keep a plant alive if it meant I had to keep living though. My dad is pretty in to fishing/hunting, and my grandma loves to garden, but it's 120 degrees here for 7 months so that kinda fricks it. I get what you mean by self reliance though..
>I also have hobbies that, while are a time killer, give me a sense of making my "time wasted" hobbies a sense of importance: I.E > I play video games, but I also edit videos from gameplay, as gay as that sounds, I would have literally killed myself if it wasn't for online gaming and gaming youtube channels. I would get home after 4 shitty days of school and eat 2 pounds of boneless wings, or my 5k cal dominos order and just gorge watching YouTube all day, I honestly want to make videos just for some kid like me, I knew my youtubers schedules down to the minute.
19 since june
Also to note yeah I still am miserable as frick, and being in my head all day doesn't help, music seems to be the only thing that drowns it out, which may be why I love the gym... I also don't plan on busting any cheeks until 22-25 so I'm not interested in losing muh virginity anytime soon, I just don't think I'm even capable to do so lmao
Anyways I gotta go kill legs, I should be back to reply at 10 (2 hours) godspeed anons
Dude your 19 you're just getting started. If I could meet my 19 year old self I would kick my own ass. All I did was party and go to school and work part time. That is all you are expected to do, but once you hit 25 if you're still doing all that shit you need to make changes
Yeah but every time I here "your only 19" it then lets me think I have all the time in the world. Every time someone congratulates me I get lazier. If I could have someone always demeaning my achievements would be nice. I do it anyways, but then I go oh I've already lost X tee hee, or oh, just skip the assignment today you already did so much. I remember this one dude complimented me for never being a slacker compared to the rest of the kids, I smiled and said thanks, of course that day I had 2 homework assignments I had to complete during the lecture from last week in my bag.
I get 0 help from positive reinforcement, I don't like it. Don't fricking bullshit me and tell me I've done a good job if I'm not done, I don't wanna hear it, because like I said, then I get lazy, like I've been doing lately. I hate hearing how inspiring my story is from co-workers or this or that, don't tell me shit man I haven't did anything yet.
My schedule is also literally just
>walk 2 hours
>school 2 hours
>gym 2 hours
>school 2 hours
>walk 2 hours
>school 2 hours
>walk 2 hours
>??? 2 hours
>sleep
My deficit is extreme that's why, also walking keeps me from eating. This is when I'm not working, so 3 out of my 4 days look like this, the 4 days are just
>work
>school
>???
>sleep
How old are you?
I know anon, I'm in much the same straits. But you have to force yourself to do it, you don't have a girl's number than say frick it and ask some chick for theirs, like maybe a classmate or some shit.
You're angry? Go fricking punch stuff, go hit a boxing bag or hell even a pillow but don't just let that anger stay settled.
Yeah typically every time I get a nightshift, so once a week, I get super fricking angry and just start hitting shit in the truck, i don't really know why.
Done none of what?
>losing weight
>classes just started (like I said, for future wants)
>talking to a girl at the grocery store
>still learning how money works (or attempting to)
>don't care about a social life really, like I said just posted it cause le doomer post
Overcompensating for what, that I hate myself? Sure, but when I'm 24 I'd rather have finished it all than done nothing like some of the morons here. I'm shooting myself in the head at 25 if I don't make it anyways.
That anger is your natural aggression, it's a sign that things are not right in your situation, animals only get angry when things are beating them down and fricking them up.
Go do shit, say what's on your mind, if your boss is being an butthole call him one, if you think a girl is cute tell her, there's no benefit to suppressing your mind when it's telling you that you need to achieve more by risking shit
Based.
When you’re young you’re free to speak your mind because moronation is expected from young people.
Also because you have less responsibilities and dependents you get to take risks that more rooted people cannot afford to take.
You're going to feel like a dumb ass at 24 when you have done none of this. It's fine actually because nobody needs an insecure, overcompensating 18 year old for anything of importance.
>I won't graduate till 24.5
I-Is this bad??
I always thought 23 or your late, obviously your never late right but you know... Is it? Idfk
Because they either believe in climate change or they correctly identify the world is getting worse everyday thanks to media brainwashing and terminal capitalism
I don't know why op, but I do know the internet seems to have a lot to do with it. The correlation between the demise of men and the rise of the internet is far, far too strong to ignore. Is it pornography, is it using text rather than your voice, is it the time used up, is it the comfort hidey hole it brings - nobody knows, but does it even matter? In the modern world we always like to attribute cause with effect, unlike traditionally where mere superstition would cause people to do things.
Why not just say the internet is bad for unknown reasons, let's hugely limit it? Why is there no no internet like there is no fap?
You should watch the social dilemma. The internet itself isn't bad. Social media is. I was born in 88 so I remember life before the internet and basically use the internet like its 2003/windows xp style. I search what I need. I go on IST, etc. but I don't use any of that intrusive social media crap
Computer->internet, chat, gaming, porn
It fulfills every mans basic drives and instinct so he feels satiated so he don't even try. Streaming and movies keep him entertained, discord and voice chat gives him socialization, video games gives him competition and cooperation, achievement and glory. Porn gives him sexual fulfillment. Of course its like an illusion. The victories in the game dont translate to resources or increase in status IRL (unless they are pro etc), porn tricks their brain to make them think they have harems of 10/10 to chose sex from. And this illusion is enough to keep them in that bubble where they are artificially living like they are supposed to. They are in their parents basement, conquering the world with their mates, then after a glorious day of battle and achievement they head off to their 10/10 virtual harem. Why would they ever leave that bubble?
>Why would they ever leave that bubble?
Because one day none of that does it any more, and then it becomes time to leave Plato's cave. For some, anyway, I guess there are those who remain even after they realize it's all hollow.
>inb4 real life is the same
If you're dead inside then doing things IRL will definitely make you feel better than doing things on a computer.
Bruh, I don't do any of that shit save for vidya maybe once or twice on the weekend and you are such a cope-gay, holy shit
>muh status
Nah. I just want to frick off from this clown world and do the random shit I enjoy.
>I just want to frick off from this clown world and do the random shit I enjoy.
Then go innawoods and do that and cope until you realize you do need other people to genuinely be happy
>the absolutely moronic brain on this homosexual
Don't worry, when you get older you'll grow out of your 2smart4ppl phase.
No. You're moronic because you somehow managed to get the impression that escaping clown world means being an anti-social nerd. Who days I don't talk to people IRL? Where did you even get that idea?
Again, you're a dumb frick. Post body.
>Computer->internet, chat, gaming, p*rn
I unironically enjoy living like this
it looks like majority of men does. If the elite hopes to sustain social order they better keep making video games and porn to keep the hordes of single childless men satisfied.
even women are happy with substituting a husband/children with social media/pets
Yeah its fricked. The get their maternal instincts "fulfilled" with their little dogs. And they get the validation and worth from posting selfies and getting attention
Enlightened post. Really made me think
If its someone looking at me its because I hate the career path I wound up going down.
>graduate with a degree in history wanted to work in museums
>no jobs so get stuck in generic office work because I wasn't given the military or trade school as an option before going to college
>now work as a senior accountant with a small company making 82k a year stressed out and over worked.
I hate accounting. I hate it with a fricking passion. I could almost tolerate office work if I worked for a place where the work meant something like my mom. She buys equipment for laboratories. It may be boring office work but without her, the scientists couldn't do research. I only took this job thinking it was a unicorn but there's no work life balance.
I have nightmares every night, I dont sleep well, I constantly have anxiety. Frick the money, work from home, and paid for benefits. Ive only been with them a short amount time but I'm already looking to leave.
They have no standard operating procedures, no IT security, no HR, and they want me to fix problems they ignored for years because they're cheap. What the hell can someone like me do? Frick accounting.
For me its the price of rent right now, I want to move to a place that has a gym within a 10 minute walk and shortens my commute to under an hour
Average rents within areas I'm looking at are £900, would be 50% of my income after taxes etc, not including council tax, these same places were £750 in 2019
I moved out of a place last year and the landlord increased the rent by £150 when I left, I'd live at home to save money but my parents are dead
This is where you need to meet a woman and move in with her. Just by having 2 incomes (until you guys get into your late 20s and have kids) you will be able to afford an apartment. In the states there are copious amounts of tax benefits to getting married as well. Not sure if you can get gay married no-homosexual with your bro Chuck and Larry style but I wouldn't rule that out. Its not gay if you don't do gay shit its just taking advantage of your moronic liberal socialist government
That would help but the marriage benefits here in the UK are minimal, about an extra £1250 only if one of the couple is making less than £12500 which is basically poverty tier
As for finding someone, I've found that dead parents get women weirdly interested at the start of a relationship for some reason but after a few months the "meeting parents" phase of the relationship gets awkward, some leave, I guess because they want the financial security that a partners parents give, makes the long-term hard to guess
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>making 82k a year
bro you got a fun history degree and you're making bank now anyways, you have no right to complain.
>n-no anything less than 400k a year is actually poor
frick off
Fear society, the modern internet puts people under constant stress of confrontation as everyone is eternally online and aggressive online. Lex Fridman and Jonathan Haidt talk about this in the podcast, woman are affected stronger than men even.
unironically it's the result of post industrial global society. we're not meant to compete with millions of people, it jacks up our insecurities and stress into levels that were never experienced before. we're meant to live in small tribal societies in order to flourish
>unironically it's the result of post industrial global society. we're not meant to compete with millions of people
Agreed. Fricking great post.
But also remember the flip side is true. Its a global market. Don't like US/UK girls? Latin American women may be way into you. Or if you're Latino, Nordic women may find you fascinating. If you're Nordic, Brazilian women may love you. If you're Brazilian, Polish women will love you, etc, etc. Its all a matter of finding your opportunities.
Its not easy, but once you figure out the game has changed from local to global arbitrage, things make more sense. Definitely better than hopelessly wishing it was 1995 with no cell phones/social media. In 1995 homies was wishing it was 1967, because they understood what it took to thrive in a past era.
Evolution did not catch up with us. If you think about it every animal in the wild is always born and lives the same "lifestyle", unchanged for millions of years, every species adapted to make the best out of the environment. Our environment and lifestyle changed very dramatically in the past few thousand years, and the last 100 years even more so. We're living in an unnatural environment where our basic needs are 99% covered for. We do not have to suffer to survive and we satisfy our instincts by surrogate activities. Men nowadays are born where their first real struggle in life is their looks and finding a gf, but going through non of the character-building struggles that should earn you the respect and admiration of females once you overcome them. This is just one aspect of that but overall this fricks with our brains which only know how to thrive in very specific living conditions. People are lost because they are living unnaturally.
>constantly being told the world is doomed
>constant access to electronics and social media
>even more identity crises now that there are like 60 options for combinations of gender/sexuality
>parents who are so busy trying to keep their kid happy they forget they also need to prepare them for adulthood with self discipline etc
>parents who don't try at all and offload that duty to everyone else (but realistically mostly schools/law enforcement)
You need to be 5’11” minimum to have a real gf (not goblina)
You need to have a PhD from NASA and 10 years work experience for any decent entry level job
You need like 4 million dollars cash for any middle class home
Constant 24/7 competition due to social media, smartphones and globalisation on girls and jobs. Can never put down your guard for just a moment or you get oneshot losing all the little gains in life you had made
The only escape is death
No lifetime local community to defend and spend time with anymore
My parents would probably get a divorce but now my dads suicidal so they won't, mom would feel too guilty. 80% he'll khs regardless. Most gen z feels hopeless. Parents working 2 jobs. You life Is going home and hopping on discord, probably getting groomed. That's atleast the middle class experience. Theres nothing to do but sit and think and hate yourself. Theres no distracting yourself with games etc, that's just your life. You go to college and don't know what you want to do because when you were in high school nobody did shit after school, they went home and play Siege online together maybe went downtown every other friday and got food then farted around and went home. No skills or knowledge for what you can do is gained because you didn't love your life, everyone is in stasis and nobody grows, theres no maturing. You live in a constant fear of being a looser. Not most, even I had a GF and I'm moronic, but I knew lots of kids who never even held hands with a girl, just go home jerk off feel terribly guilty about it then also lonely. Some lift to try and get noticed before realizing that's hopeless and then it just becomes another part of the routine like gaming, or some become genuinly or not religious to either cope with their life or to give themselves a cause. Some turn to extreme politics. There's nothing to live for, no cause, and you don't what you can do to change things becaus you didn't learn who you were.
Sorry for the blogpost
Your post is a perfect example of why parents need to force their kids to work or play sports in high school. You are lacking a sense of direction.
>skills or knowledge for what you can do is gained because you didn't love your life, everyone is in stasis and nobody grows, theres no maturing. You live in a constant fear of being a looser.
>just go home jerk off feel terribly guilty about it then also lonely. Some lift to try and get noticed before realizing that's hopeless and then it just becomes another part of the routine like gaming, or some become genuinly or not religious to either cope with their life or to give themselves a cause
I don't like this post
Do zoomers not have hobbies anymore? Do you guys not have any sense of delayed gratification? Are discord and video games all you guys do? Genuinely curious.
My teens/early 20s were filled with skating/sports, going to shows, and playing in shitty bands trying to get pussy. I'm 33 and don't even really know what discord is.
Our hobbies are video games and social media
Delayed gratification is a meme even though I do it
>start task
>miserable
>miserable
>Complete "milestone" but not done so not important
>miserable
>thank frick it's over
don't ever feel a sense of pride or accomplishment, just glad it's done. If I was a degenerate I'd just jerk off and play video games while eating deli strips all day, frick this shit.
>there’s nothing to do
Black person, are you moronic? There’s plenty to do. You’ve just wired yourself into coming home and getting on the computer. Go outside, get a hobby that isn’t video games lmao
We live in a gyno entric anti-white male society. White men get blamed for everyrhing now and shit rolls down hill and piles up on the youngest adult generation. Unless if youre rich and go to private schools, you dont come out of the american public education system as a white male without being at least somewhat demoralized. If youre talking about non white males i have no clue because socially, they are being elevated endlessly.
>We live in a gyno entric anti-white male society. White men get blamed for everyrhing now and shit rolls down hill and piles up on the youngest adult generation.
Caring about what women and minorities think, kek
everyone in these threads who always comes feeling all high and mighty about how they "were depressed and "just like you" but then "just did X"" and made it is always like 30-35 years old and completely out of touch.
>yeah bro i was an incel until 10 years ago when i hit 30 and got a chad slayer bodycount of 10
one of the most depressing things is the realization how helpless and forgotten gen Z actually is and other generations don't have a single clue or people in power are just straight up hostile
>one of the most depressing things is the realization how helpless and forgotten gen Z actually is
No one disagrees with this. We just disagree with the remedy. This post itself just wants to whine and you want people to agree with you. Nah dude, I'll tell you what your worthless parents never did. Quit being a fricking dinosaur and grow up. Unironically bootstraps, anything else is just going to leave you stagnant
And yeah I'm that 30-35 year old guy and I GUARENTEE I was worse off than your entitled ass so I don't wanna hear it
there are no more bootstraps moron, if you had a bad start in life you are excluded for good now, im not going to work 3 jobs for literally nothing, not that i even can due to chronic health conditions, people may have nothing to lose, but theres also nothing to gain anymore
So I can tell you my story
>find out i'm getting get kicked out
>get shit job
>couch surf on friends places
>shower at the gym which was my only expense other than car insurance, food, and gas
>eventually get kicked out of friends place
>get small apartment in ghetto for cheap
>save copious amounts of money
>start applying for other jobs when I'm not working eating or at gym
>tell them I make 10K more than I make now
>get new job
>just got an increase
>actually liked that job so stick it out for a few years
>get promoted
>now making 50,000$K/year
>find new job, tell them I make 60K a year
>they offer 68,000/year
>at this point I move into townhouse not in ghetto
>Get promoted, make 90,000$/year
>apply for new job. tell them I make 100,000$/year
>get offer for 120,000$k/year
>accept
>not banking mad stacks
>bought a house with 37,000$ down payment I had been saving up because I'm a israelite who saves money
>Only debt is my mortgage
Thanks for the doomposts and thank you
for the morale boost.
I'm gonna make it whether you guys stay on the path with me or not.
>25, KHHV western european
>whole family is bottom 1% tier poorgays mentally ill, rarely work
>parents divorce when im 10, become depressed as a kid, lose touch with kid-friends, get put on medication
>no friends all throughout highschool, no friends yet still now
>malnourished throughout teens stunted growth already short parents in a very tall country (im like 160cm, average man is like 184cm)
>chronic skin and immune disease inherited, dependent on meds for life
>did literally nothing in school due to being fricked up, dont have a highschool diploma
>housing crisis is so bad i wouldn't be able to live on my own in the worst muslim shitskin flat 3 cities away even if i worked full time with an extra job
>live with mentally ill unemployed stepfather and mother
>not contact with my other family because its simply pointless and they're all in their own little world
>chronic insomnia and suicidal thoughts
surely i just lack the based manly cigarsmoking whiskeydrinking entrepeneurial spirit like yours right? damn if only i was high T like you, my parents should just kick me out being homeless would be such an improvement !
well I can tell you sitting on IST and whining like a b***h isn't going to make it better. Have you considered blowing your brains out if its so hopeless?
Not him, but you should go outside more to see what kinds of people manage to get gfs here. Even being a balding fat super manlet seemingly isn't a hindrance to getting a (below-average) gf and sex.
I am 5'7 245 lbs and I managed to get a 7/10.
Balding? But yeah doesn't really surprise me. Your social skills and maybe charisma matter a lot.
There is barely a difference between 2010 and now.
No I am not balding. And yes women respect confidence and want security. Easiest ways for them to feel secure and know that you are confident
>make good money
>know how to work your dick and act like you've had sex before
>be in good shape
>don't dress like a dweeb (not telling you to be Ralph Lauren over here)
Its really not that hard. Just be nice and ask them about themselves. Women love talking about themselves and getting compliments. They hate debating and critical thinking and being worried about having to care of shit on their own
it doesnt matter that people who look slightly worse than me have gfs, i have absolutely nothing going for me, i have hobbies but i have lived absolutely nothing and dont live anything
Then why not building something starting now? A baby step a day will still lead you somewhere.
i've been trying for years to make a change, it doesnt matter
from years of lockdowns and the consequences from it, theres always something i cant do shit about that gets in the way
and at the end of the day i just come home to this shithole where i dont want to be and lay awake until my brain shuts off to preserve itself at 7am
>i've been trying for years to make a change, it doesnt matter
How have you been trying? Did you try repeating your highschool degree?
>How have you been trying? Did you try repeating your highschool degree?
>tried my hardest to get rid of crippling social anxiety for years (i couldnt even walk the street)
>actually started eating
>lifting and martial arts multiple times a week
>daily walks
>had therapy and councelling for years
>quit videogames
>tried to reconnect with my family multiple times
>took lessons in playing an instrument
>did some unpaid internship meant to get me back into society
none of it ever fricking matters in the end because my environment is still the same
>Can't spell counselling
it's over...
No you don't get it you should have bootstrapped harder and also gone for some walks in the sun to cure your "depression" (it isn't real). Hope that helps bro, just get a job and get on that grind man.
:^*~~)
Don't take advice from people like this (europeans)
All the good ones that had a shred of motivation and individualism's ancestors moved to the states centuries ago and the only ones left are sub-servient losers who love taxes and biking and hate guns and gains.
Damn good for you anon, makes me happy
No college degree?
damn what jobs?
>get job
>get promoted
>can afford rent with one (shit) job
lmao
>grew up in the 90s and early 00s
>I was worse off than your entitled ass!
captcha T0GYM
>And yeah I'm that 30-35 year old guy and I GUARENTEE I was worse off than your entitled ass so I don't wanna hear it
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH *inhales* AAHAHAHHAHAA
Something people never mention is how people 32+ never had instant access to hardcore pornography in the form of high quality video growing up, so never habituated fully to it. People 45+ might be too old to fall for the nonsense of it, but just this age range, kinda were starved for most of their youth of this type of pornography we have now. It's like people who grew up before cars always had a greater sense of wonder of it, and they usually cared more about how they worked etc. People who grew up with them just take them for granted. That's what it's like for some near middle-aged people with all this hardcore pornography we never had when younger.
>how helpless and forgotten gen Z actually is and other generations don't have a single clue or people in power are just straight up hostile
kek
Go to any archive and look at what millenials your age were saying back then. It's literally the same kind of rhetoric. Hell, the fricking boomers did it in the 60s.
personally insecurity & social anxiety, I think it mostly stems from the internet, we're all on this shit 24/7 instead of out socializing in real life.
yea man haha I cant fathom why people are no longer patriotic and having 5 kids with a big house and more than enough money from a single stupid useless random non essential job. maybe the younger generation just dont want to work hard enough.
I don't pay attention to young men
glowing brighter than the sun demoralization thread.
Sage
Suffering builds character.
Because it’s very difficult for most men to get laid
These threads are intended to demoralize. I'm merely providing proof that blackpillers are lying.
I go to the gym. I lift. I have more than enough money.
I'm still an unwanted kissless virgin though nearing my 30s.
Lions don't operate isolated completely on their own.
>Lions don't operate isolated completely on their own.
Usually they form groups with other male lions then take over a group of females from other male lions. Try that.
Yes like in India they just have gang rape parties before they go to the beach to take a crap
>incel terror cells
Ah, a great idea. Thanks CIA.
How do I stop being a loser? I’m 19
Well first of all 'loser' is a relative term. What do you mean? Do you have a girlfriend/sex? Do you have a job? What do you do? What is your income? Do you go to school? Where do you live?
I can only give you advice if you don't ask a broad general question like that without knowing anything about you.
I’m from the uk and I work a shitty labouring job that’s like half the minimum wage per hour. No I don’t get sex/have a girlfirend. Pretty much everyone I meet thinks I’m very weird, I can be quite awkward socially sometimes too. I am diagnosed with Asperger’s but it’s supposedly over diagnosed in current year. I mainly just do weights, play a little guitar, watch YouTube/Netflix etc. I have a small group of friends but I’m certain they’ll turn on me soon
Watch alpha male motivation videos on YouTube
I do like some of Andrew Tates videos because it gives me some hope that I can improve
I think he was joking dude lol
agree
You have no self confidence because you don't have a good paying job or women. Fix these 2 things and everything else will fall into place. Or fake it til you make it. Keep applying everywhere and hitting on everyone until 1/2 falls into place.
Yeah I know he was joking but still the point stands. It’s quite difficult for me to even meet people let alone flirt and have one night stands with women. I would like to increase my personality on a general level, but I’m not sure how to. I do put myself out there much more, but I just haven’t been able to adapt to it like others say they have. Like going from very introverted to outgoing. I’m also not the best looking guy, I’m short too. I’ve talked with my friends about women who I think are on my level in terms of looks, and they mock me for it despite them being virgins as well. It feels like I’m just going to lose them all because I can’t get with women, they genuinely see me in a much worse light than before. About the job, it should hopefully lead into an apprenticeship then I’ll be on a lot higher pay, and it’s a skill regardless, so I will use it at some point in my life.
Pretty shit friends if they judge you for that. Listen, just keep getting a better job and forget about girls. Pretty common in the UK at your age to be obsessed with girls, but they'll come back down to reality in like 3 years.
I honestly don’t even care about girls that much, it’s just that everyone around me thinks I’m a freak because I’m a virgin at 19, and it definitely stops me from being able to reach out to more people since they look down on me for this. It’s not just my friend group it’s co workers and it’s all over this board too. Is it really that bad?
28 year old kissless virgin here.
You and people around you will get used to it. At some point everyone sees there's no point to bring it up anymore
What are the social repercussions of being a 28 year old virgin, if you have experienced any? Do you have people look down on you for it?
>What are the social repercussions of being a 28 year old virgin
No direct ones, for the most part you can have the same social life like 99% of other people. I go out with friends the same, I travel with friends the same, group sports hiking, going to the cinema etc.
The difference is that most people will kind of avoid relationship talk around you and sort of treat you as if you're a eunuch, but as long as you are a functioning human in other departments you can have a fairly standard social life as most other people, just minus the intimacy/romance/sex/relationships part, which to be fair is a pretty big part of life of other people.
I was a 28 kissless virgin too. Then I had sex and a gf. Now I'm back to square one. I still feel incelish even though I had all that. Having sex won't magically change you into a giga chad. Once an autist always an autist
>Then I had sex and a gf
homosexual. You missed out on being a wizard and now you're just a homosexual with nothing to show for it.
Nobody will give a frick or even imagine to ask once you're a bit older.
Literally just hanging out with people who care about such things, most adults dont.
t. 26 khv
Your brain is warped from social media and IST, please, please. please take a break. No one gives a shit that you're a virgin, and if there are people who judge you then they're absolute morons. Actually good people won't give 2 shits since it means something. It's actually a very juvenile mindset to care whether someone is a virgin.
Is that not a bit weird that coworkers are asking if you're a virgin?? If you're so insecure about it then just lie.
I guess my mindset has changed about virginity, I used to care so little bit seeing it talked about everywhere has made me hyper focus. I’m not insecure about the fact I’m a virgin, I honestly don’t care if others are virgins, I just know that it’s frowned upon by the vast majority of people and if they find out they will view you as lesser than them because they are that delusional they think they’re better than me
Once again your brain is warped, no one actually cares whether you've had sex, most level-headed people know it's not some amazing thing, it sucks very often. You're very clearly insecure about how people perceive you, I'd recommend therapist.
I’m insecure about losing. I can’t stand losing. I’ve seen a therapist before, it’s how I was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome
has anyone gone to therapy and NOT been diagnosed with something?
Well functioning people I guess
NTA and yes no one cares if you've had sex, but most people will find it really weird if you had no relationships of any kind as you approach your 30s.
Doesn't mean you can't have a fairly standard social life of course, but it is a pretty weird thing to most people and an extreme red flag to women that you were in zero relationships of any kind your entire life.
Just some hard-won wisdom: what other people think is an extremely shitty compass for how to live your life. A better way is to ask: “what makes a good person, and what would a good person think?”
I just think there is no sense of society any more. Everyone is so isolated, and it's worse for men because they tend have smaller circles of friends than women.
The only answer I can see is to move back towards homogeneous societies, but that seems like an impossible dream now.
Men today are more like women. They care way too much about what other people think.
Because what other people think matters more than ever. You can have your reputation ruined in an instant, get blacklisted from jobs and shunned by society.
>do not be an autistic sperg
>do not reveal your powerlevel
>if your company is that woke, fricking leave
>get to know people outside of politics first on a deep enough level to where when you (politely) say Black folk are fricking worthless, they can understand your viewpoint because they know you're a decent person because you listened to them talk about their dead cat
I have constant intrusive thoughts that tell me to kill myself
It's more like a third voice in my head. There's me, there's my conscious (that deep, rational voice), and there's a devil on my shoulder telling me to kill myself over and over.
go see a doctor man
doctors are gays the dude just need shit to do tbh. Unplug everything and go camping
Listen to Andrew Huberman's episode on OCD, and also talk to an doctor.
Because they're not living for themselves.
>waaah I wanna be a doctor but college too expensive
>this clown world sux and the people are moronic
>"why do you wanna be a doctor?"
>to help people
>"bruh"
If you analyze your behaviors and motives I guarantee the majority of you will realize you do things specifically for other people. Stop that. If money were no object and you didn't have to worry about normalgays judging, what would your life look like? Now figure out the most realistic path to that and enjoy yourself. Frick, being able to achieve 70% of that puts you miles above normos. Just stop caring what you're ~~*supposed*~~ to do when the past 2 years morons told you Black folk don't riot and the jab is safe and effective.
Also, read the Bible.
>inb4 christcuck
>If money were no object and you didn't have to worry about normalgays judging, what would your life look like?
How am i supposed to know? No fricking clue what i even want tbh
if you don't know what you want just get into IT or finance. its easy money and you only work like 20 hours a week but get paid for 40 giving you plenty of time to frick around
i don't mean i don't know what i want as a career. I don't know what i want from life. I don't care for travelling, i don't care for cars, i don't care for what others consider nice things all that much, and i'm too cynical to really care for women. I could literally sustain my lifestyle on neetbux without a need to do anything. but not doing anything, not having any drive to do anything, is literally the problem. So what do?
>Make Videos
there's nothing i have to tell the world
>(gaming, porn)
i'm mediocre at gaming and too cynical for porn i guess
>Make Music
i feel like i should start that quite often. maybe i should give it a shot
>Nutrition and Training books/videos
nothing i have to tell the world. I'm to moronic to teach about training and i mistrust scientific establishment too much for nutrition. just look how many slide threads about nutrition are in the catalog right now
>traing for aesthetic and cardio
on it, actually
>watch documentaries / read books
yeah that's what i've been doing mostly. Would'nt need an aweful lot of a career to go about that. Don't know how that would help
I would consider getting into hunting or fishing and being a guide. Especially if you know people in the parks industry or outdoors industry, or be a cop. They always need people. Or be an outdoor cop. Fish & game fricker. Any job that requires you to go outside. I think being a fishing or game guide in the PNW would be great. The landscape is beautiful and you just teach rich boomers where to go. Seems pretty comfy. Don't have to meet a lot of people just a couple a day and don't need to say much they aren't paying for your company.
>I would consider getting into hunting or fishing and being a guide.
i'm a europoor. I don't think that's that feasable here
Not that anon, but of course it is. A buddy of mine is Dutch and got some outdoor degree (don't remember what it was called) and was guide in multiple parks in Europe and even some kind of forestry management gig in Scotland. Check out IST prob the comfiest board on IST.
>if you don't know what you want just get into IT or finance
Good idea
t. business analyst
Unironically this, I know what I'd do, and it's still help other people, but it wouldn't be directly. But I wouldn't be paid enough to support it...
>Make Videos (idc what, gaming, porn, etc.)
>Make Music
>Nutrition and Training books/videos
>train for aesthetics and cardio
>watch documentaries / read books, just informational shit
dumb frick. You want to
a) be an e-celeb
b) help people
a) is moronic, because those people will lose their entire career if they say one thing against the $currentthing and then will have no skills to integrate into reality-land where people actually have to have real jobs
b) is moronic because helping people is for suckers and idiots. You will just get taken advantage of and used. You need to do the inverse and take advantage of others. That is how I made my money.
Yeah that's the problem anon. I wanna be an e celeb and make money from it without anybody knowing who I am or not doing what zi want
And I also like helpingF people but if you help people you get used
So essentially what I want to do in life is literally a double edged sword
No, only idiots who help people get taken advantage of, it doesn't take an enormous amount of introspection to walk that line.
Therapists don't diagnose people with things if those things aren't a source of distress or impairment
>muh paid to do it
Never make your passions your job or else they become work that you WILL hate. Your best bet is to find something for work that you find TOLERABLE at the absolute worst. Let it pay the bills and let you save up money and you will be fine. Do your creative shit in the meantime and if it is good enough to where people will pay for it, awesome. Just don't quit your day job. Instead save up enough money to where you can live be a NEET the rest of your life. If you aren't good enough to get paid for it, oh well. Still enjoy it because you like it. What, are you 1 of those homosexuals who stopped playing Minecraft 10 minutes in because you realized you'd never build some amazing castle after your first shitshack?
No I just built the epic diamond block house in creative mode.....
I know what you mean though, that's what (hopefully) the CS degree is for, to make enough money to never give a shit about it, and then just do what I like to do in the meantime.
The israelites. Unironically.
because they are literal homosexuals. Not even joking. 50% of men 30 and under are gay for real. Like let another man stick his dick in their ass then suck him off gay
to all millenials and boomers, watch this video. one video to explain it all. open up his channel and look at his face and eyes in his videos. just another zoomer who lost his soul, but not his spirit
"10 Years of Coding-What I've done"
im making good money and have had a good education, but im lonely, suicidal, tired, depressed, numb and feel empty. nothing to look forward to in my lifetime, but loneliness and isolation and feeling invisible. fake optimism aka propping up the human spirit works only for so long
>just another zoomer who lost his soul, but not his spirit
Wat. The actual frick are you saying?
>Are we all living in hell?
YES
I think it's fricked up hormones. I had to start taking TRT at 18 because my levels were so low and my highschool years were pretty much just a long slog through depression and misery.
>the key to resolving the social problem is to simply inspire a zest for life in men. it doesnt really matter what they are thinking or feeling or doing, the only thing that really matters right now is to increase the intensity of it
>most people are completely demoralized, *beaten*. the little part of your brain that is evolutionarily designed to make you go "oh frick we lost the war" is being overly stimulated at all times making you secrete loser hormones
>i've been thinking a lot about something i just mentioned in passing a while back, about how all socialisation i experience with groups of people is completely female-centric. if there are two or more women present in a group, it's just over. better to be alone
>work, family, peer socialisation. its ever present. the men just dont talk to each other, but silently try to do some weird pseudo chivalous thing, at best, where you try to not "ruin their fun"
>the girls are having a little fun outing playing house, and guys are just meekly trying to enable them out of some misguided sense of chivalry or something. its very weird. i can never start a conversation with someone if there are women present. they just block off
>"dude shut up we'll get found out"
>it's like, enabling spoiled children. "just let them have it", "it's easier to just let them get what they want", that kind of shitty parent attitude. just ever present. I think a lot of guys just live in that, 24/7 because it absolves them from feelings of duty and obligation
>and well to my original point. I think that wouldn't happen if you were really angry because you had unhealthy high levels of testosterone in your blood. I think people would go nuts and start yelling and screaming, "i cant take it any more", freaking out. and i support that
Ride the tiger, bros. “The desert encroaches, woe unto him whose desert is inside”. There are many things you can do to build your inner oasis but it boils down to discipline and beauty. Find something to do, find things to marvel at (nature, science, architecture, literature, religion).
World sucks always has, now there is just more footage of it
Isolation. I've been working from home the last 3 years where all my social interactions have been on IST or work emails. Recently we went back into the office and I'm exactly how you described, OP. Before I was pretty confident in every social situation and now I find myself being anxious and trying to find the right thing to say (no edit button IRL). It was so effortless before but now it's stressful.
This made me realize how important being social is for humans, and men especially have been more isolated now than any point in history. It's not enough to go outside you actually have to be social with strangers.
Easiest tip I can give you is
>they're more afraid of you than you are of them
All you gotta do is initiate and talk about whatever comes to mind and that's it. It's so easy when you see it, when you see people not talking, or someone in a group where nobody really knows anyone and they have that look on their face - you feel so much more comfortable and in control.
10:1 odds OP lives in a city.
Just giving it a moment's thought and you could probably calculate that based on population demographics alone, but I'm just going by how OP sees his neighbour.
nah you're just getting older and now you can seeing the slaughterhouse thats called life
Social media. That’s it
Because it’s a moggy mog world out there
Life is devoid of meaning so waking up is like torture. Young men are taught to avoid their passions and work, so they're stuck working to death for women who are free to do whatever they want, milking the free labor of a socially bonded class.
social networks and pron
Because I have a harder life than my grandparents and partly parents, who were given everything on a plate during socialism. Because I'll never be able to afford a house unless I live 90% frugally.
0 pussy
Biggest reason for me loneliness, even though
I have friends they are mostly antisocial like me. I also have 0 idea how to socialize with girls.
I look tortured because I fell down the stairs lately and my arm and knee still hurt from breaking my fall. The bags under my eyes are because it's hard to find a position to fall asleep in.
I don't know about other people, but that's how it is with me, okay? Thanks for understanding.
Zoomers are the weirdest frickers around and have a big mouth too when you can kill them with a single punch
>Doing chinups
>2 zoomzooms join in
>Offer them the weighted belt, try to be a good rolefigure saying they have good form and can handle some weight
>"I already have a wiener between my legs, that's weight enough"
>Dude looks like it's his first day in the gym
What the frick is wrong with them
it's called banter. you sound like a karen
>nu-IST is so predictable nowadays I expected this comment word for word
Being unfunny and indecent is not 'banter', you low IQ mong.
Nah you sound autistic
>Talk improperly to older guys at the gym about your tiny weenie
>You sound autistic
You are either
>Underage
>Non-white
>moronic
Congrats, you have the same standards as some 16 year olds lmao.
They grew up watching Marvel movies and think endless quips are how you interact with people in real life.
I develop engineers at my job (as an engineer). It's kind of sad how easy it is to make someone a rockstar. You give the encouragement and the right amount of autonomy and scope , most start kicking ass. You can see the light turn on where they feel like they have purpose. Then you just stand back a praise them for all the shit you setup for them to accomplish and their confidence snowballs.
When you see people like this, give them a hug and tell them they are doing a good job. It matters.
I literally see no reason to try. Even doing things that are considered self improvement feels useless. I do it because if I don't I'll just stay in the exact same loop, I already feel like self improvement is a waste of time, but what else am I gonna do game? but if there's a slim chance I either die young, or it gets better, I'll take it over this, because it just isn't working for me. There is 0 purpose; get a good women, find a hobby, join a club, exercise. lol. What's that going to do, stop the schizo voices telling me shit isn't it? I do it all to stop that shit, it just doesn't go away. I won't ever reproduce, nobody deserves to be here. I don't care if that's a good or bad thing
This thread has nothing to do with fitness. Didn't read. Stay on LULZ and never improve
Lower average test levels. Less social cohesions due to "diversity" causing people to have less stake in their society. More social anxiety due to less socialisation because of availability of video games and internet. More mental and physical health issues due to very low infant mortality rates for a few generations
This ignores that the present crisis is *experienced* as a spiritual crisis, and instead blames everything on sociologistic material conditions. It’s Marxism without the Revolution.
No it doesn't, all the points I made are caused by evil and demonic entities, yes
>Why do young men nowadays always look tortured?
because they are horny and lonely
>WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
the thread
have sex incels holy shit
You sit online making posts like this all day every day. Take your own advice already or just end it you miserable homosexual. This is no way to live
>All women hate men
>Said women will ONLY frick the top tier men
>No way for zoomers to make it up to the upper tier or even the middle tier
>Covid happens
>Everyone stuck inside their houses for god knows how long
>Money has no value
Anecdotal evidence here, But when i was applying for Fast food jobs i was turned down by a good 3 resturants and then the place i work at now made me do 2 interviews to work for a few hours.
Its complete shit im going to college but i dont really feel anything worthwile coming from it.
It feels forced onto me
Vaccines
Zoomers get like 50 inoculations by the time they enter school
Personally it just feels like there's no future for us. Society is completed fricked up, getting married is like playing russian roulette and everyone is psychologically damaged goods. There's no desire to contribute to the community, because there is NO community left, and the society we currently have just seeks to wipe us out. Just feels like I'm going through the motions, running out the clock. Like, there's no realistic goals to strive toward. Just get enough money that you can frick off somewhere and not have to do anything. That's about it. Soul-crushing.
Can you imagine taking drugs and stimulants to function and work a minimum wage or any job just so you can pay rent and eat and maybe pay for some digital entertainment? Sounds like something out of a dystopia
>Why do young men nowadays always look tortured?
>Are we all living in hell?
its all the absent dads