Why do zoomers spam gazillion sets of babyweight lateral raises? They will legitimately get mad and start arguing (despite their non existent lats) if you imply that it's better to train lat raises normally with intensity, a reasonable volume. and with progressive overload instead of stupidly high volume at 5 - 15lb weights and never changing anything except adding even more garbage volume.
because lat raises are difficult to progress and doing 10 15lb reps is better than doing 8 20lb reps with poor form
>lat raises are difficult to progress
>difficult to progress
that's just code for:
> i have no idea why physiologically harmful, anatomically moronic movement keeps getting worse as i train it, honestly no clue
same story for ohp
>it's better to train lat raises normally with intensity, a reasonable volume. and with progressive overload instead of stupidly high volume
but lat raises are moronic whatever weight u choose
>but if u bend/incline bench and move humerus into scapular plane and lead with elbow
u get nothing but impingement/tendon irritation
muscle rubs on bone, it's not gonna contract because it's poked by your own skeleton
>so ohp
nope, that's even moronicer because it's front delt only and impingement and bigger weight to frick u up
>so not overhead?
wrong again, it is overhead once u raise ur shoulder/arm up as high as u can with one db - there u do quartereps with internal rotation of shoulder
>whoa, nobody teaches that, why?
because there is global conspiracy to frick u up with useless harmful movements with moronic abnormally heavy stick and other bilateral movements like lat raises
> so what is internal shoulder rotation when my arm and shoulder are lifted as high as possible above my head with light db?
screw sth in by turning elbow itself (not in elbow!) with left hand, unscrew with right
>and why is it better than lat raises?
because it's impingement free and muscle can contract since it's no longer poked by bone - u get time under tension and u get growth, don't bend elbow too much because front delt will take over from side delt
>but i can't raise my hand as high as i thought i could, bit confused
ur lats are tight, ur pecs are tight, ur scapula is immobile - fix it:
post body pajeet
>post body pajeet
make an argument bot
>i can't, i'm just moron bottot
i know
>Zoomer have small lats because they do lat raises wrong
>le funny quip, i gotta say sth for fricks sake, he's dropping truth bombs again
>t.bottoto
I am sure you got big nice shoulders and know how to train them :^)
The key is to just slow down the reps. You can add more but getting lat raises to actually have delts be the point of failure takes slower reps.
>slow down the reps
not if the movement is moronic in the first place bot:
The movment is fine if you have intact shoulder ligaments. Once they get too loose/weak to hold the ball in the socket through the movment you're pretty much fricked and should do rehab before anything else body building related. But you don't want to hear that so you'll cope around it and keep doing what you're doing.
>The movment is fine
IT IS NOT, your own skeleton is preventing muscle from contracting by rubbing/poking the muscle during movement - no contraction, no time under tension no growth + inflammation and impingement if u go high enough
but i already said it all here bot:
>Why are you still on this board ESL Black person?
why are u morono bottoto? same difference
I don't read your incoherent posts jeet boi. You just suck at doing them because you ruined your shoulders and rather see it as personal failure like idiot you are you see it as failure of the human form which it is not.
>you ruined your shoulders
never been better bot 😀 once i stopped all the shit u're shilling here (bench deadlifts ohp barbell rows etc.) and developed my own list of actually working movements and static holds - shoulders just keep getting bigger and healthier
>I don't read your incoherent
u fricking read that supposedly bot?
>your own skeleton is preventing muscle from contracting by rubbing/poking the muscle during movement
because i repeated what i wrote here:
right? so now u know why lat raises do nothing - they fricking suck that's all
Small man problems
>boto give up
good, i guess xD
Why are you still on this board ESL Black person?
Because lat raises are the one of the only exercises that really matters.
Here I'll give you a IST approved program:
3x10 lateral raise
3x10 dumbbell curl
3x10 cable crunch
3x10 dumbbell incline press
6 days a week minimum, better 7.
Notes:
Must be EXACTLY ten reps, otherwise you will not gain muscle. If you do less than 10 reps you will instantly turn into a powershitter.
It's also EXTREMELY important that you feel the muscles working during lateral raises at all times. If that means you have to use 1 pound weights so be it. But also you can't do more than 10 reps or it will be cardio.
Also it MUST be dumbbell incline bench. If you use a barbell you will not gain muscle. And if you do it on a flat bench you will get powershitter breasts.
You also need to make sure you aren't doing any sort of leg training, because again that is for powershitters and women don't care about legs. Better to put your legs in a caste to make them atrophy so you have more energy to do lateral raises.