powershitters get scared when asked to do a single pullup
in reality anyone on IST should be strong and lean enough to do both but both extremes (140lb kids and 340lb fatties) throw shit at eachother 24/7 here
This. Powerlifters are insecure about their ugly bodies, so they cling desperately to the fact that they can lift more weight due to their enormous foundation.
I'd sat for every 1 "calisthenics are gay" threads, there are 10 "why does everyone hate calisthenics"
It's almost like the same soiboi libshit homosexuals (actual homosexuals) who do calisthenics are the same soiboi libshit homosexuals who have a deep desire to be oppressed
I'd sat for every 1 "calisthenics are gay" threads, there are 10 "why does everyone hate calisthenics"
It's almost like the same soiboi libshit homosexuals (actual homosexuals) who do calisthenics are the same soiboi libshit homosexuals who have a deep desire to be oppressed
Calisthenics is the freemium version of lifting. It works but not well and it taps out really fast
Weighted dips/chin-ups and ab exercises like hanging leg raises are good but if you want to be more muscular than otter mode you need to do more
A non insignificant, and very vocal part of fit are fat fricks who only believed that you "gotta eat big to get big", being proud of their laziness and gluttony and keep insisting they "mog" people with visible abs.
Nevermind climbing two flights of stairs would give them cardiac arrest.
The only physical exercise they can do is lift weights, unlike the balanced man who can lift, run, jump, swim, and carry onself among other things.
They like to be called "bloat lords", but I just call them "fat fricks"
I don't understand it either. You guys made fun of me for being able to do a moonsault and knowing how to take a fall without sending my weekly paycheck to the chiropractor. Are you an amatuer stunt man too?
>free >can do it anywhere >mog gymcels with your pull ups and muscle ups >gym les always seething at your otter mode fiziq
I’m think calisthenics are based
its not that efficent for growth, and people who post on fitness board arent gonna be very casual about muscle mass etc if not over the top. its probably healthiest of them all tho. very good if you are casual and workout every once in a while and dont bother too much, you will stay lean and ripped
t. ,,casual''
After years of doing calisthenics I can finally say... It doesn't work.
It gets you to a basic fitness level but you will never get stronger or more muscular than with weights. And even then, you could just get some adjustable dumbbells or kettlebells and get better results than with calisthenics while having the same advantages of doing them at home.
Calisthenics only works if you already have a strength and muscle foundation and train the "tricks" and movements to impress people at the beach or something.
TL;DR just train weights, you'll get better results, easier and faster than with memesthenics. After you get strong then train the cali movements
I tried it for a few months with decent results but it's definitely inferior to lifting if your goal is muscle mass. Still do dips and pulls up though. Pushups are underrated imo.
Why would I ever want to be bigger than pic related? To attract gay men?
And irl you will never pick something heavier than 100kg, so "getting stronger" which I assume means "getting strong squats benches and deadlifts" is kinda pointless.
See, you look at this picture and think >wow, he's huge and shredded
nut the harsh truth is he is 5'9, 175lbs, and you cant tell he works out in a medium tshirt.
There is a reason every calisthenic personality takes every image without a shirt on or any reference pount to a standard sized object.
Why the frick would I want to look like I "lift in a shirt"? Why would I want to keep adding lbs and more lbs and more lbs to my body? To have a stroke a 45?
Also nice disingenuous video you posted. I remember some gymbro roided gorilla attempting this and barely being able to lift it a few cm
>blah blah blah i have shit genetics and can't build muscle with calisthenics so I need to lift heavy pieces of metal to trick my puny ectomorph muscles to grow
Calisthenics alone is good for the first 3-6 months of EVER working out but eventually you'll need to start adding weight, which I guess isn't calisthenics anymore but it's still cheaper and easier than going to a gym.
I'm poor and it basically helped me get strong for free. It does annoy me though that I'd probably be way stronger if I was weightlifting in that same time period but whatever, being able to work out at home with just a pull up bar and some rings is so good
I don't know but yesterday a fit female friend was surprised I never set a foot in any gym and don't own weights. My physiotherapist basically told me I didn't eat enough protein to recover this slow. Works on my machine. 40cm biceps, 107cm chest, 4 visible abs despite 25%+bf. Works on my machine.
The only thing i dont like from calisthenics is the fact that you cant train legs in an effective manner unless your balance is the one of a monk and you can do stuff like single leg pistol squats to failure, and even then there is not enough load for a proper leg develomepent.
All the pull ups, dips and core stuff is pretty based and great id you dont have access to a gym when going on a trip or for maintain muscle
So, basically putting a 50kg backpack that messes up the center of mass and the force curve. Might aswell do barbell squats at that point, which is outside of what you can call calisthenics
>which is outside of what you can call calisthenics
So? I don't see how a weight belt, backpack and a barbell differ. All 3 are just a tool to put weight on.
It seems like calisthenics gays are into it way more for vanity than even your average gymbro. >have to go outside shirtless to do it, won't even build enough muscle to look decent in a shirt >if they do add weights, they're never impressive amounts and most people ego lift with shit form to do them >think they're the only people incapable of being fat >video tape themselves way more than gymbros
Plus they're just fricking annoying on this website.
They paid into the $3000 barbell setup just to get chunky to keep their numbers moving. A lightbulb flicked on when I was watching some bodybuilder shit on chin-ups as being bad for lats because "what if you can't do a chin-up?" These guys are just roided obese people. They have the same limitations as fat people.
Because calisthenics gays overexaggerate the results. They actually believe you get results just as quick as if you were doing weight resistance training.
>Such as wanting to run fast >You can only do this doing calisthenics
You have to not only practicing sprinting but also any lift or exercise that increases power. What kind of calisthenics exercise is going to work your legs more than resistance training?
Have you seen sprinter's legs? You seriously believe they don't spend time in the gym? They aren't doing pullups and dips dude
10 months ago
Anonymous
Again, bonehead. They may do those lifts, but they are on a totally different program than someone wanting a body builder physique. You morons try to apply your one size fits all moronation to everyone else’s exercises and say how dumb they are. It is why you are all lonely and balding even when you achieve your desired look.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If you squat, you are a body builder >You bonehead
I don't think you understand there are other disciplines than body building when it comes to the weight room. You're an absolute dyel that doesn't know how to train for any fitness goal
10 months ago
Anonymous
I never said if you squat you are a body builder. It feels like I’m talking to a redditor. You are intentionally being difficult and missing the point.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You are intentionally being difficult and missing the point
Im literally saying sprinters spend time in the gym and you keep referring to bodybuilding. You're the only one here who keeps thinking sprinters somehow only do calisthenics, which sprinting is not.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Kys, how's that for an argument
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is why people hate calisthenics morons, you think you're special snowflakes where you can do the only activity that wouldn't benefit from weightlifting even though 99% of them do. You obviously aren't doing it to gain muscle, you aren't doing it as a skill or anything, it isn't going to be a career, so why the frick do you morons even do only it?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You morons try to apply your one size fits all moronation >Keeps referring to bodybuilding
jesus you are stupid as frick. even calisthenics people do barbell lifts you moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
You do realize literally every professional athlete out there in the world spends time in the gym, right??? Maybe not endurance athletes though
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. I have been making the same point over and over that different functions take different workouts, different volume, etc. You all get pissed at calisthenics gays because they are approaching fitness differently than you are. Stay mad that you can’t do a chinup.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Stay mad that you can’t do a chinup
We all do weighted calisthenics you moron. I don't know why you think if we do barbell lifts we also aren't doing pullups, chinups, dips, etc.
10 months ago
Anonymous
They literally think everyone that lifts weights is fat.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I have to assume these are a bunch of dyel posters that only know about pushups and pullups. Its very strange to think people are strictly only powerlifting or bodybuilding
to me: >deal with zoomers, annoying titktok hoes, elderly sleeping at the machines, waiting in general
vs >taking my dog for a walk and working out at the park, getting some sun and playing fetch between sets
It's hard enough to get good results by weightlifting natty, much less by doing calisthenics. It's just inefficient as frick, like trying to put out a fire with a cup of water.
Because you'd have to either be a neet or on peds to make a decent physique with it. 10 to 15 hours a week hours a week seems like a lot of time to do something that's most likely for vanity.
I’ve always liked calisthenics. It’s how I started my fitness journey. Even now I try to include them in my workouts. Every couple months I’ll take a few weeks off of free weights and do strict calisthenics (a few exercises I do with dumbells or cables to round out, but 90% of the workout is calisthenic). I like lifting and being big and strong, but I also want to maintain a level of mobility and athleticism. Don’t want to just be a blob that can move weight but can’t run a mile or do a pull up.
>grab my rings >walk around the block to the park >put them on one of the posts >get a top tier upper body workout >HIIT my lower body and cardio endurance >go home
No tripods, no waiting, no cracked discs, no surgeries... it's great.
I've done both for a while. Most people who lift stop in their mid 30s at the latest and reminisce on their glory days while complaining about bad knees and injured backs.
The calisthenics folk are dyel but at least they're physically active into older ages and transition into doing dyel sports like climbing, swimming, running, biking, etc
I hate the homosexuals that say you've got to lose fat if you want to make them easier
the only reason you're doing calisthenics' because you dont have accest to a a gym (if that's not the reason you're a dumb fricking moron have a nice day), so what kind of moron would eliminate resistance of resistance training?
what are you training then? homosexual?
>Can easily do 30 jack knife pull ups >Can not do a single real pull up >Can easily do 50 knee push ups >Can not do a single real push up
It's like my body simply refuse to coorperate as soon as I try the real deal.
People who exclusively do calisthenics are either too poor or too cowardly to go to an actual gym and actually lift. To cope, they invent reasons why calisthenics is superior. All of these reasons are bullshit, so calisthenicsgays cope further by strawmanning about fat powerlifters or functional strength or something. In reality both are similar tools, but lifting is a broader/more versatile one.
It's two problems: >calisthenicsgays making shit up to feel oppressed because their shit isn't popular >powershitters making shit up to feel superior because they got strong without getting aesthetic
Calisthenics and weights are both highly effective for different reasons and anyone who says otherwise is moronic or dyel.
It's not hate, but it's simpler to progress with weight training where you can increase the weight or increase reps. Calisthenics is where we get all these gay 1000 push-ups/day programs because it's too complicated to increase the resistance.
i love all the homosexual zoomers who defend this manlet kek they get so bent outta shape when you mention he's in gym lighting with a pump and 14 inch arms
>pullups, chinups, dips
Don't care about anything else. Even at my fattest (220lbs 5'10) I could still do 8 perfect pullups or chinups, and dips with +90lbs. Most other cali exercises just look like memes or inferior barbell movements for poor people. That or they're just bad for training. Like being able to do free handstand pushups or muscle ups is cool as frick, but I'd never consider them in a routine.
Cause fit thinks that fitness is lifting and fit is full of braindead meatheads. They base everything on metrics like weight lifted, physically going to a gym and endlessly gaining weight.
So calisthenics, a discipline that can be very similar but is decidedly NOT that, irks them. Calisthenics works for people who prefer to train outdoors (Inb4 hiking, I said train), people who find others obnoxious and don't want interaction like in a gym, people who want to be able to train anywhere (not hauling weights), etc. There are more reasons than just getting jacked to train. You don't see people b***hing that training for football (not american) doesn't get you buff.
Also lifting has the most pathetic masculinity superiority complex that I never understood. Lifting is not manly, it doesn't make you tough. Short of real combat and killing someone in a war or self defense, combat sports are the manliest thing you can do. Actually testing your physical toughness against another man even during training. The training for modern MMA is leagues tougher than whatever your garden variety roidtroony is doing.
Source: Have done it all, except homicide. Focusing on Calisthenics and MMA atm.
You know it's made for horribly out of shape DYELs who are afraid of the gym when being able to do 6 normal push ups is level 5. That's just embarrassing. I don't even know what half of the higher levels mean. >close push up
You mean like a diamond push up but even easier? >uneven push up >1/2 one arm push up
What the frick?
And for bodyweight exercises with no added weight, that's really shit volume.
>Close Push-up (Level 6) >Same as level 5 but with hands placed under chest and thumbs touching.
>Uneven Push-up (Level 7) >First single arm exercise. Dominant hand was placed on top of a 3.63-kg medicine ball. >Movement phase began with subjects focusing on a single side of the body.
>1/2 One-Arm Push-up (Level 8) >A 3.63-kg medicine ball was placed under each subject's hips. After body was in proper >alignment, subjects lifted 1 arm off the floor and placed it palm up on their lower back.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29466268/
I'm not saying that calisthenics are senseless. Your specific program is. And I say that as someone who can do about 9 good form (feet together) one-armed pushups.
The ways to increase strength is to increase weight lifted and total volume. Calis already suck for the first where most of the time all they can do it make the leverages harder, as your "progression" routine tries to do. The routine you posted has very very low volume, 3x6 is just so pointless for any kind of push ups if you want to get stronger.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>12 workouts in 4 weeks increased avg level from 5.75->8.5 >b-but you can't gain strength by doing that
A lot of the negative wrap that Cali gets come from influencers, particularly the younger ones. Most of them churn out the same old info yet unlike the older guys aren't able to add any new insight on technique, progression etc.
It doesn't help that most of them are the text book definition of Dyel so when they talk, it seems wrong for them to advice anyone... Because it is wrong. It doesn't help that I've been seeing a rise in Cali bro's shitting on Bodybuilding for basically no reason.
As an alternative for bodybuilding, it is objectively inferior at building muscle and yet you'll find enough Cali-zoomers claim otherwise to make you want to rip your hair out.
Fundamentally, the problem isn't Calisthenics itself, its the people who can't stay in their own lane.
It doesn't work
OHPs and bench are the only ways to burn fat
What about deadlifts?
powershitters get scared when asked to do a single pullup
in reality anyone on IST should be strong and lean enough to do both but both extremes (140lb kids and 340lb fatties) throw shit at eachother 24/7 here
This. Powerlifters are insecure about their ugly bodies, so they cling desperately to the fact that they can lift more weight due to their enormous foundation.
I don’t.
I’m a stocky Manlet and know I’ll only look remotely aesthetic if I just do calisthenics
I don't
What the frick are you talking about? Rings are shilled here all the time
See
Making up shit to hate calisthenics
I'd sat for every 1 "calisthenics are gay" threads, there are 10 "why does everyone hate calisthenics"
It's almost like the same soiboi libshit homosexuals (actual homosexuals) who do calisthenics are the same soiboi libshit homosexuals who have a deep desire to be oppressed
yeah i see rings getting shilled here by dyels all the tine then rthey refuse to post body
Absolutely this
Kys
Calisthenics is the freemium version of lifting. It works but not well and it taps out really fast
Weighted dips/chin-ups and ab exercises like hanging leg raises are good but if you want to be more muscular than otter mode you need to do more
A backpack full of water jugs, books, bullets, whatever you have lying around spices up bodyweight like pushups, dips, pull-ups really well
what if I only have a full suit of heavy plate armor from the Third Crusade to the Holy Lands?
Even better.
Also chase Arabs for cardio gains.
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A non insignificant, and very vocal part of fit are fat fricks who only believed that you "gotta eat big to get big", being proud of their laziness and gluttony and keep insisting they "mog" people with visible abs.
Nevermind climbing two flights of stairs would give them cardiac arrest.
The only physical exercise they can do is lift weights, unlike the balanced man who can lift, run, jump, swim, and carry onself among other things.
They like to be called "bloat lords", but I just call them "fat fricks"
Post legs
Don’t forget that the same fat fricks shill keto as well
I can't really explain it it's not the exercises it's the vibe of the people who do calisthenics. They always seem kinda stupid and poor and annoying.
I don't understand it either. You guys made fun of me for being able to do a moonsault and knowing how to take a fall without sending my weekly paycheck to the chiropractor. Are you an amatuer stunt man too?
Only roidtrannies and powershitters hate calisthenics. they believe bigger = better.
more inconvenient/autistic if you have access to a gym, which all Americans do
(this is an American website for Americans)
>free
>can do it anywhere
>mog gymcels with your pull ups and muscle ups
>gym les always seething at your otter mode fiziq
I’m think calisthenics are based
tell me how you're doing pull ups anywhere and how you're training your legs anywhere that are used to carrying your body weight
IST is a Japanese website for Europeans.
Americans are a nuisance that people on here begrudgingly tolerate.
its not that efficent for growth, and people who post on fitness board arent gonna be very casual about muscle mass etc if not over the top. its probably healthiest of them all tho. very good if you are casual and workout every once in a while and dont bother too much, you will stay lean and ripped
t. ,,casual''
obviously people doing some kind of acrobatic shit is very impressive, and like ghetto gymnastics, good casual or hardcore
Because the majority here can't do a single pull up let alone 10 reps.
I can't do it either, so I'm doing a specific workout routine for it.
After years of doing calisthenics I can finally say... It doesn't work.
It gets you to a basic fitness level but you will never get stronger or more muscular than with weights. And even then, you could just get some adjustable dumbbells or kettlebells and get better results than with calisthenics while having the same advantages of doing them at home.
Calisthenics only works if you already have a strength and muscle foundation and train the "tricks" and movements to impress people at the beach or something.
TL;DR just train weights, you'll get better results, easier and faster than with memesthenics. After you get strong then train the cali movements
I tried it for a few months with decent results but it's definitely inferior to lifting if your goal is muscle mass. Still do dips and pulls up though. Pushups are underrated imo.
Why would I ever want to be bigger than pic related? To attract gay men?
And irl you will never pick something heavier than 100kg, so "getting stronger" which I assume means "getting strong squats benches and deadlifts" is kinda pointless.
didn't say you wanted to look like a roided powershitter. But even getting to your picrel is easier and faster with weights than with calisthenics.
you will never look like that
See, you look at this picture and think
>wow, he's huge and shredded
nut the harsh truth is he is 5'9, 175lbs, and you cant tell he works out in a medium tshirt.
There is a reason every calisthenic personality takes every image without a shirt on or any reference pount to a standard sized object.
Why the frick would I want to look like I "lift in a shirt"? Why would I want to keep adding lbs and more lbs and more lbs to my body? To have a stroke a 45?
Also nice disingenuous video you posted. I remember some gymbro roided gorilla attempting this and barely being able to lift it a few cm
>NOOOOOOOO I DON'T CARE!!! IM NOT SEETHING!!!!
jej
lift a 45lbs barbell. its ez, but not for them lmao
>strawman
concession accepted
Odd
Why are they so far away from it and gripping it to far up and not using their legs?
Then again why not just clean it?
Anon is it meant to a straight arm no legs
Only sholder powerlifters can't do it
Wtf are they trying to do?
fake video
>blah blah blah i have shit genetics and can't build muscle with calisthenics so I need to lift heavy pieces of metal to trick my puny ectomorph muscles to grow
Calisthenics alone is good for the first 3-6 months of EVER working out but eventually you'll need to start adding weight, which I guess isn't calisthenics anymore but it's still cheaper and easier than going to a gym.
I'm poor and it basically helped me get strong for free. It does annoy me though that I'd probably be way stronger if I was weightlifting in that same time period but whatever, being able to work out at home with just a pull up bar and some rings is so good
If you can't do 20 pull ups, you're not a man.
does that mean im a woman? thanks for validating my gender uwu
Only like 1 person in a million can do that
I don't know but yesterday a fit female friend was surprised I never set a foot in any gym and don't own weights. My physiotherapist basically told me I didn't eat enough protein to recover this slow. Works on my machine. 40cm biceps, 107cm chest, 4 visible abs despite 25%+bf. Works on my machine.
autistic people tend to hate things that aren't efficient
BecauseIST is too /fat/ to do pull ups.
Roll for pull ups.
but yesterday was pullup day
Rollen.
The only thing i dont like from calisthenics is the fact that you cant train legs in an effective manner unless your balance is the one of a monk and you can do stuff like single leg pistol squats to failure, and even then there is not enough load for a proper leg develomepent.
All the pull ups, dips and core stuff is pretty based and great id you dont have access to a gym when going on a trip or for maintain muscle
Why would you not just squat?
Because i would have to do like 200 bw squats per set to get my legs tired. It just doesnt work for muscle growth.
Weighted squats...
So, basically putting a 50kg backpack that messes up the center of mass and the force curve. Might aswell do barbell squats at that point, which is outside of what you can call calisthenics
>which is outside of what you can call calisthenics
So? I don't see how a weight belt, backpack and a barbell differ. All 3 are just a tool to put weight on.
It seems like calisthenics gays are into it way more for vanity than even your average gymbro.
>have to go outside shirtless to do it, won't even build enough muscle to look decent in a shirt
>if they do add weights, they're never impressive amounts and most people ego lift with shit form to do them
>think they're the only people incapable of being fat
>video tape themselves way more than gymbros
Plus they're just fricking annoying on this website.
It’s frickin gay
Gym culture is the gayest in the world. Followed by Rust programmers.
They paid into the $3000 barbell setup just to get chunky to keep their numbers moving. A lightbulb flicked on when I was watching some bodybuilder shit on chin-ups as being bad for lats because "what if you can't do a chin-up?" These guys are just roided obese people. They have the same limitations as fat people.
>$3000 barbell setup
This is the most dyel i have ever heard. This is like a moron saying it takes you 12 years to graduate college
Post your home gym.
No but its not worth $3000. Not even close. More like ~$800.
So you don't have a homegym but you got the prices lined up? lol
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Because calisthenics gays overexaggerate the results. They actually believe you get results just as quick as if you were doing weight resistance training.
They hate everything, including themselves. They also can’t comprehend that people have different fitness goals.
>people have different fitness goals
Like what exactly? You can literally do anything and still hit the same fitness goals.
Such as wanting to run fast vs lift heavy.
>Such as wanting to run fast
>You can only do this doing calisthenics
You have to not only practicing sprinting but also any lift or exercise that increases power. What kind of calisthenics exercise is going to work your legs more than resistance training?
You are a great example of the boneheads here. Why aren’t the best runners built like a brick shithouse? The best runners become the best by running.
Lol you're a moron, sprinters are built and do lift weights.
Have you seen sprinter's legs? You seriously believe they don't spend time in the gym? They aren't doing pullups and dips dude
Again, bonehead. They may do those lifts, but they are on a totally different program than someone wanting a body builder physique. You morons try to apply your one size fits all moronation to everyone else’s exercises and say how dumb they are. It is why you are all lonely and balding even when you achieve your desired look.
>If you squat, you are a body builder
>You bonehead
I don't think you understand there are other disciplines than body building when it comes to the weight room. You're an absolute dyel that doesn't know how to train for any fitness goal
I never said if you squat you are a body builder. It feels like I’m talking to a redditor. You are intentionally being difficult and missing the point.
>You are intentionally being difficult and missing the point
Im literally saying sprinters spend time in the gym and you keep referring to bodybuilding. You're the only one here who keeps thinking sprinters somehow only do calisthenics, which sprinting is not.
Kys, how's that for an argument
This is why people hate calisthenics morons, you think you're special snowflakes where you can do the only activity that wouldn't benefit from weightlifting even though 99% of them do. You obviously aren't doing it to gain muscle, you aren't doing it as a skill or anything, it isn't going to be a career, so why the frick do you morons even do only it?
>You morons try to apply your one size fits all moronation
>Keeps referring to bodybuilding
jesus you are stupid as frick. even calisthenics people do barbell lifts you moron
You do realize literally every professional athlete out there in the world spends time in the gym, right??? Maybe not endurance athletes though
Yes. I have been making the same point over and over that different functions take different workouts, different volume, etc. You all get pissed at calisthenics gays because they are approaching fitness differently than you are. Stay mad that you can’t do a chinup.
>Stay mad that you can’t do a chinup
We all do weighted calisthenics you moron. I don't know why you think if we do barbell lifts we also aren't doing pullups, chinups, dips, etc.
They literally think everyone that lifts weights is fat.
I have to assume these are a bunch of dyel posters that only know about pushups and pullups. Its very strange to think people are strictly only powerlifting or bodybuilding
bruh, people who do track & field also do squats. not the long distance runners tho
I only ever see jacked old guys do calisthenics. The old lifters are always fat and busted telling you how it's normal to have a herniated disc at 21.
because they cannot do any of the exercises and struggle with the realization that they are weak, so they mock.
to me:
>deal with zoomers, annoying titktok hoes, elderly sleeping at the machines, waiting in general
vs
>taking my dog for a walk and working out at the park, getting some sun and playing fetch between sets
It's hard enough to get good results by weightlifting natty, much less by doing calisthenics. It's just inefficient as frick, like trying to put out a fire with a cup of water.
Because you'd have to either be a neet or on peds to make a decent physique with it. 10 to 15 hours a week hours a week seems like a lot of time to do something that's most likely for vanity.
Honestly callisthenic is pretty good. I like to do both, because they both have their advantages.
I’ve always liked calisthenics. It’s how I started my fitness journey. Even now I try to include them in my workouts. Every couple months I’ll take a few weeks off of free weights and do strict calisthenics (a few exercises I do with dumbells or cables to round out, but 90% of the workout is calisthenic). I like lifting and being big and strong, but I also want to maintain a level of mobility and athleticism. Don’t want to just be a blob that can move weight but can’t run a mile or do a pull up.
>grab my rings
>walk around the block to the park
>put them on one of the posts
>get a top tier upper body workout
>HIIT my lower body and cardio endurance
>go home
No tripods, no waiting, no cracked discs, no surgeries... it's great.
Just a cracked sternum. Shoulders that are basically dust, abdominal hernias, and wrist tendonitis
I get injuries faster and more often doing calisthenics than I do using similar strength levels with weight training.
t. been lifting for 10+ years
I've done both for a while. Most people who lift stop in their mid 30s at the latest and reminisce on their glory days while complaining about bad knees and injured backs.
The calisthenics folk are dyel but at least they're physically active into older ages and transition into doing dyel sports like climbing, swimming, running, biking, etc
Power shitters
Because it's full of exercises power shitters can't do and reminds them that they are functionally (and mentally) weak
But I don't, I love doing pullups and dips and pushups even when I'm on vacation I'll find a park to do them
I can't even do a pullup. How do I train calisthenics?
>I can't even do a pullup
lose fat, use lower level variants of the exercise like jackknife pu's and/or do negative pu's
I don't.
The only anons that do are powershitters and roidtrannies lol
I hate the homosexuals that say you've got to lose fat if you want to make them easier
the only reason you're doing calisthenics' because you dont have accest to a a gym (if that's not the reason you're a dumb fricking moron have a nice day), so what kind of moron would eliminate resistance of resistance training?
what are you training then? homosexual?
>Can easily do 30 jack knife pull ups
>Can not do a single real pull up
>Can easily do 50 knee push ups
>Can not do a single real push up
It's like my body simply refuse to coorperate as soon as I try the real deal.
purely mental
just do one and don't quit
newbie here
does plank count
I fricking hate the plank, worst 90 seconds of my life, but the pain means it's working, right?
I love cali and core training
I want to get endurable fortified body instead of big body
People who exclusively do calisthenics are either too poor or too cowardly to go to an actual gym and actually lift. To cope, they invent reasons why calisthenics is superior. All of these reasons are bullshit, so calisthenicsgays cope further by strawmanning about fat powerlifters or functional strength or something. In reality both are similar tools, but lifting is a broader/more versatile one.
It's two problems:
>calisthenicsgays making shit up to feel oppressed because their shit isn't popular
>powershitters making shit up to feel superior because they got strong without getting aesthetic
Calisthenics and weights are both highly effective for different reasons and anyone who says otherwise is moronic or dyel.
Can't train legs, in actual fact not training legs makes calisthenics easier.
It's not hate, but it's simpler to progress with weight training where you can increase the weight or increase reps. Calisthenics is where we get all these gay 1000 push-ups/day programs because it's too complicated to increase the resistance.
You tell me
i love all the homosexual zoomers who defend this manlet kek they get so bent outta shape when you mention he's in gym lighting with a pump and 14 inch arms
>pullups, chinups, dips
Don't care about anything else. Even at my fattest (220lbs 5'10) I could still do 8 perfect pullups or chinups, and dips with +90lbs. Most other cali exercises just look like memes or inferior barbell movements for poor people. That or they're just bad for training. Like being able to do free handstand pushups or muscle ups is cool as frick, but I'd never consider them in a routine.
Cause fit thinks that fitness is lifting and fit is full of braindead meatheads. They base everything on metrics like weight lifted, physically going to a gym and endlessly gaining weight.
So calisthenics, a discipline that can be very similar but is decidedly NOT that, irks them. Calisthenics works for people who prefer to train outdoors (Inb4 hiking, I said train), people who find others obnoxious and don't want interaction like in a gym, people who want to be able to train anywhere (not hauling weights), etc. There are more reasons than just getting jacked to train. You don't see people b***hing that training for football (not american) doesn't get you buff.
Also lifting has the most pathetic masculinity superiority complex that I never understood. Lifting is not manly, it doesn't make you tough. Short of real combat and killing someone in a war or self defense, combat sports are the manliest thing you can do. Actually testing your physical toughness against another man even during training. The training for modern MMA is leagues tougher than whatever your garden variety roidtroony is doing.
Source: Have done it all, except homicide. Focusing on Calisthenics and MMA atm.
Is this good progression?
You know it's made for horribly out of shape DYELs who are afraid of the gym when being able to do 6 normal push ups is level 5. That's just embarrassing. I don't even know what half of the higher levels mean.
>close push up
You mean like a diamond push up but even easier?
>uneven push up
>1/2 one arm push up
What the frick?
And for bodyweight exercises with no added weight, that's really shit volume.
>Close Push-up (Level 6)
>Same as level 5 but with hands placed under chest and thumbs touching.
>Uneven Push-up (Level 7)
>First single arm exercise. Dominant hand was placed on top of a 3.63-kg medicine ball. >Movement phase began with subjects focusing on a single side of the body.
>1/2 One-Arm Push-up (Level 8)
>A 3.63-kg medicine ball was placed under each subject's hips. After body was in proper >alignment, subjects lifted 1 arm off the floor and placed it palm up on their lower back.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29466268/
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29466268/
I'm not saying that calisthenics are senseless. Your specific program is. And I say that as someone who can do about 9 good form (feet together) one-armed pushups.
>Your
It's just what they used in that study. Also senseless in what way?
The ways to increase strength is to increase weight lifted and total volume. Calis already suck for the first where most of the time all they can do it make the leverages harder, as your "progression" routine tries to do. The routine you posted has very very low volume, 3x6 is just so pointless for any kind of push ups if you want to get stronger.
>12 workouts in 4 weeks increased avg level from 5.75->8.5
>b-but you can't gain strength by doing that
It's senseless.
A lot of the negative wrap that Cali gets come from influencers, particularly the younger ones. Most of them churn out the same old info yet unlike the older guys aren't able to add any new insight on technique, progression etc.
It doesn't help that most of them are the text book definition of Dyel so when they talk, it seems wrong for them to advice anyone... Because it is wrong. It doesn't help that I've been seeing a rise in Cali bro's shitting on Bodybuilding for basically no reason.
As an alternative for bodybuilding, it is objectively inferior at building muscle and yet you'll find enough Cali-zoomers claim otherwise to make you want to rip your hair out.
Fundamentally, the problem isn't Calisthenics itself, its the people who can't stay in their own lane.