>license >season
Jokes aside if anyone wants to get into this you better not be a puss because shooting an animal with traditional archery is about the most brutal thing you can do to it, and with anything bigger than a turkey the odds are you will just wound it.
Start with rabbits they are about the size of the kill zone on bigger animals.
The most brutal thing you can do to a deer is let it die its natural life. Deer only live as long as they can fend off and outrun predators. It's not like they are dying peacefully surrounded by loved ones.
sticking a broadhead into the side of a deer and realizing you missed its lung/heart by a tiny bit only to watch it run off and bed down to either bleed out or recover painfully is a far worse crime
You're a psychopath if you think making an animal suffer is a good thing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Killing animals isn't a crime you puss puss.
Guys, don't worry. You're both gigantic homosexuals for arguing past each other and addressing nothing that was actually said.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Confirmed for sheltered little city b***h who has zero understanding of how brutal nature really is. Dying at the hands of a hunter is a thousand times better than the alternative. Being slowly eaten alive by predators over a period of hours, starting with its legs, is not a fun way to go, but that's what usually happens. Or when they break a leg and can't move away from the insects, and end up being slowly devoured by nasty little insects over a period of several days. You clearly don't understand how brutal nature is when you whine about the possibility of a hunter missing an internal organ and the animal bleeding out in a relatively short period of time
10 months ago
Anonymous
You completely missed the point moron. Congrats, you likely have autism. There is a difference between killing an animal quickly with a gunshot and making an animal suffer and bleed out with a shitty larp bow.
10 months ago
Anonymous
A proper recurve bow can kill an animal just as fast as a rifle. A hunter not being proficient with a bow and missing the shot is not an argument since the exact same thing can be applied to rifle hunters who don't practice
10 months ago
Anonymous
Look a recurve bow is inherently lower percentage compared to a rifle from an accuracy standpoint. With a rifle you can basically guarantee you are going to hit a fist sized zone. With a recurve bow no matter how much experience you have there is just a higher chance you will be off. And I say that as someone with experience shooting animals with recurve and long bows.
Aside from the extreme accuracy- a rifle is designed for massive shock and opening a fairly large wound channel. A broadhead just sort of slices through and depends on cutting a good artery etc. which is inherently lower percentage.
I disagree vehemently that a bow is comparable to a rifle in terms of having a quick kill. Even in perfect conditions with a perfectly accurate shot... the arrow just doesn't do the trauma that a rifle does.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I agree it isn't a crime but you do sort of feel like shit doing that and for what? for sport? Anyways I'd say you want to feel comfortable that you have at least a 75% chance of hitting the kill zone before you even think about shooting something like a deer. The problem is people can't be honest with themselves and think they are fricking Howard Hill because they hit a bullseye on a target a few times. That's why I say start with rabbits. If you can hit a rabbit reliably you are probably good enough.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>puss puss
you can say homosexual here, anon
10 months ago
Anonymous
depends on the animal
if you kill my animals I am eating your entire family
10 months ago
Anonymous
>your entire family
you're no better than the chinese with their punishments of up to seven degrees of relation with the criminal
10 months ago
Anonymous
>values animal life over humans
Morally bankrupt position to have.
This is like saying you'll cannibalize someone's family for totalling your car.
It all depends though I'm sure some just drop dead more peacefully than others- you know some probably just like expire. The bigger concern is not that it takes an hour+ for the deer to bleed out... the bigger concern is that you injure it and it doesn't die at all.
Anyways, the point is that killing a deer with traditional archery is way harder on the animal than just shooting it and people often don't realize this until the first time they shoot an animal with trad archery. Even compared to a compound bow or crossbow it is way worse. The first time I shot a rabbit was with like a bodkin/game point (it was a serious point but not a broadhead). The point did its job and just skewered the rabbit but didn't pass all the way through and it was just standing there, skewered, for a considerable amount of time which I did not expect and I eventually just ended up breaking its neck. Anyways it doesn't bother me too much but it is not for the faint of heart.
>The most brutal thing you can do to a deer is let it die its natural life. Deer only live as long as they can fend off and outrun predators. It's not like they are dying peacefully surrounded by loved ones.
I am 10,000% sure the most brutal thing you can do to a deer is to persistence hunt it, just a man (or men) barefoot carrying only sticks sharpened in fire chasing down an animal until it is too exhausted to get away, when you finally reach it and stab it, letting its lifeblood drain away as you prepare a fire to roast your catch.
Getting exhausted and dying of a spear to the heart doesn't sound quite as bad as being slowly eaten alive by predators over a period of 5-10 hours, starting with the legs, or being slowly eaten alive by insects over a period of 24-48 hours, starting with the eyes. You fricking moron
>shooting an animal with traditional archery is about the most brutal thing you can do to it
Lol as if, modern recurve bows and even longbows can get so quiet and broadheads are so razor sharp that half the time deer will just trot off like they barely realize they’ve been hit. Compounds, crossbows, and rifles are all way louder and spook the deer into running off but as long as you hit it in the heart/lungs it’s going to be dead within 100 yards or so, which is a FAST fricking death when you see how quick a deer can really move.
With archery the biggest issue is not the muscle memory technique/form of drawing and releasing the arrow on target.. don't get me wrong that is step number one.
The hardest part of the learning curve with traditional archery hunting is having to guage the distance of the target in the woods. The amount of arrow drop is significant. For me the focal point and target point align at about 35-30 yards.. but being able to see a target in the woods with terrain and knowing how far away it is, is sort of a learned skill or feel that you can never get on a practice target from a set distance with no terrain.
i notice that my friends who're into archery have massive forearms despite not lifting much, pretty embarrassed tbh, might pick it up soon because it looks cool
If it was about literally putting food on the table you'd not give a frick about those DNR dates kek. Or you'd just get some hogs chickens or goats. No you wanted a velvet trophy I bet... or to beat the neighbor to that big buck most likely.
Around the fall time the heat bill got higher, it ate into our income and we were pretty poor, plus I knew conservation officers and really didn't want to get caught poaching.
We actually had cattle, but those were our income and we only butchered one if it had to be put down anyway. I wish we had chickens, loved birds when I was younger.
I don't care for trophy hunting, taking a life sucks even when there's a reason for it but if you do it.
All I'm saying is that for the trouble and effort to buy a compound bow, learning to use it, and going and sitting in the woods just so you could get a three week head start on deer season... just does not seem sensible for someone who is hard-up you know I mean like maybe that time and money could be spent better. And I'm not trying to be a dick but it just seems like wasted time effort and money I mean hell you'd probably have more luck just cruising around and looking for roadkill kek.
>All I'm saying is that for the trouble and effort to buy a compound bow, learning to use it, and going and sitting in the woods just so you could get a three week head start on deer season...
I grew up shooting guns and bows so learning wasn't the hard part; we already had the biw from before we fell on harder times and I enjoyed my time in the woods, I lived in the middle of nowhere and was used to it.
>just does not seem sensible for someone who is hard-up you know I mean like maybe that time and money could be spent better.
I would leave the house at the crack of dawn, be set up by sunrise and wait for a couple of hours. Didn't have to go far, maybe a 20 minute trek down the bush trails to get to my stand. Never had to buy anything except for a good skinning knife.
>And I'm not trying to be a dick but it just seems like wasted time effort and money I mean hell you'd probably have more luck just cruising around and looking for roadkill kek.
Given the circumstances I was in it was a pretty good move, I wouldn't consider it wasted time because I did it before the day started or on leisure days if I had the opportunity.
Roadkill is also super unsafe to eat unless it's FRESH fresh; shattered bones and organs can really frick up the meat. I personally would not be above it if the situation arose but I have little siblings and a mother that I didn't want getting sick lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
If I was on hard times I'd grow a bit of corn every year to put in a bin for grinding feed and I'd pen up some hogs and make a chicken coup. It just seems nigh on criminal to have hungry mouths depending on someone bow hunting is all I'm saying.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oh we always had a garden and that shit was out of a ghibli movie, it was my moms pride and joy. We managed to avoid going hungry, I just wanted to make sure we weren't just eating but eating *well*.
Keeping hogs is horrible, the smell is vile and they're mean little frickers so I never considered having my own. Some farmers we knew had pigs and didn't enjoy it one bit. My cousins did lamb for a few years and they were fun.
I still wish we had chickens though, my older sister keeps some with her husband now.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think hogs are one of the best animals to deal with personally you don't have to put the pen right by your house either old timers used to have pens all over the place near any little puddle that held water.
Old compounds have lasted decades. If you paid 600 for compound in the 90s. Have gone hunting ten years and we're successful 5 of them, it more than patios for itself. With the meat prices increasing, if you spend 2k on a bow now and then hunt for the next two years, or will have nearly paid for itself, if you're hunting more than just deer
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Paid for itself
Kek what the frick are you talking about? The meat is basically worthless except for the backstrap how does it pay for itself? I mean the other guy might have fallen into a weird position where after substantial mental gymnastics he could justify the whole song-and-dance about being hard-up and the extra three weeks of deer season being important (kek which I still find dubious considering he would max out his limit anyways and he was law abiding despite having a hungry belly etc.)
Anyways let's not pretend for 99% of people it is not just for sport okay? I just don't see the sport OR utility justifying the compound bow I mean it is like you took a bow and tried to turn it into a shitty gun or crossbow kek it isn't a money issue even though if I was actually hard up I could think of 100 things better to spend $600 dollars on than a compound bow and $20 arrows etc.
>shooting an animal with traditional archery is about the most brutal thing you can do to it
Lol as if, modern recurve bows and even longbows can get so quiet and broadheads are so razor sharp that half the time deer will just trot off like they barely realize they’ve been hit. Compounds, crossbows, and rifles are all way louder and spook the deer into running off but as long as you hit it in the heart/lungs it’s going to be dead within 100 yards or so, which is a FAST fricking death when you see how quick a deer can really move.
Lol literally fricking moronic 95% of the time you are going to be tracking and waiting a considerable period for a deer to bleed with archery. Way longer than with a gun it is actually so fricking insane to even suggest archery is somehow MORE humane than a rifle it is laughable kek. Also a deer almost always realizes its been hit and immediately runs (provably towards water for some reason) anyways I've seen deer drop from a gun shot never seen or even heard of a deer that didn't take tracking after a shot with a bow.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I spent more on my bow than you did on your car. U mad?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Do you want a reward for being moronic or were you just pretending as usual?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>mindbroken zoomie having a nuclear meltdown over bowhunting
kek
10 months ago
Anonymous
Something being less humane is not a big issue for me just don't be delusional and say it is kek when it obviously is.
I spent more on my bow than you did on your car. U mad?
Even if it were true it wouldn't make me mad I'm happy with the things I have. I just wish people would own up to the fact that it is a sport gadget not utilitarian etc.
How much land do you have to hunt on?
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're moronic. It doesn't matter if you use a bow or a rifle, if you have decent aim it will drop a deer just the same
t. Hunts with funs and bows.
10 months ago
Anonymous
A bow is inherently lower percentage. With a rifle, at any hunting range you will have almost zero drop to even consider.
With a recurve bow etc., in order to have high accuracy, you have to be able to perfectly judge the distance almost intuitively which can be difficult on terrain. A heavy enough bow to hunt with allows for very little aiming other than a brief aim point down the shaft. Furthermore a great deal of fine accuracy on a bow (the difference between hitting a basketball sized target and a squirrel sized target) often comes down to the arrow itself as well. Anything even slightly stiffer can put you off a few inches. And if you are using actually going full traditional with wooden arrows, this is even more pronounced. Not to mentions small various in reflected arrows etc etc.
With your best arrows on flat terrain there are enough factors that competent hunters cannot expect anywhere near the accuracy and high percentage shooting as with a rifle unless you are fricking Howard Hill or Byron Ferguson etc. kek. So even if I can reliably hit a rabbit from about 25 yards that doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to have a clean kill shot on a deer.
Seems fun. It's something humans did for the entirety of human history up until like 200 years. There might be some cool unknown esoteric benefits from practicing it that modern man has lost.
> Belongingness is the human emotional need to be an accepted member of a group. Whether it is family, friends, co-workers, a religion, or something else, some people tend to have an 'inherent' desire to belong and be an important part of something greater than themselves.
By calling others redditor, he is strenghtening the idea that is is a part of the IST user group, making him feel like he belongs. It is a very natural but sometimes damaging desire to be a part of an exclusive group.
>an exclusive group
IST isn't exclusive though. It's a public anonymous website. The 2016 election alone drew like tens of thousands to the website due to /misc/.
Yeah we know. You use a compound bow because you're too weak to draw a normal recurve. Many such cases with people who don't have proper back muscles developed.
Why not just use a gun though kek I mean with a compound bow you have sights, a valley to hold it in, a trigger release... I mean what's the point its like you're trying to turn the bow into a gun. It's basically a crossbow at the very least there is very little skill involved.
You get about a month more in deer season in my state- and the only other advantage is if you want something in velvet or if you hunt over persimmons (that are played out by the time regular season starts).
Anyways I don't care about having a velvet trophy and I'd hunt on archery even during the regular season so it just seems silly to use a compound bow contraption. There's just no sport. Do you want the extra month that bad? It's just a date on a calendar anyways kek
Not him but,
mostly the ethics of a cleanest kill possible. Turkey hunting it doesn't matter as much and I'd be fine with a long bow. But I don't want potentially hit a shoulderblade because I wanted to larp.
Yeah I mean you aren't wrong but I would just remind you that you can wound a turkey too.
Anyways I'm not a bleeding heart. I have no overt desire to wound an animal either though. If I feel I have a good shot with a high chance of mortality... let's say over 50%? Then I feel I've done all that is required of me as far as a deer is concerned even if it turned out the other way. There is just zero sport in shooting a deer with a rifle and all this larp shit about eating deer meat is bullshit it is inferior meat and the real reason for any of this for 99% of people is sport anyways let's just be real.
>If I feel I have a good shot with a high chance of mortality... let's say over 50%
That seems like a low bar especially for the early season. I have be almost certain or at very least surprised if goes awry. Let's say about 90% despite how videogamey it sounds. Only time I take risks is with distances when I can't get within 20 yards but have a level shot, in low wind with the deer standing almost perpendicular to me. I'd probably just let em go or risk getting closer otherwise. There's enough deer here it's not like it will be more than 6 hours before I find another oppertunity. Hell I'll even opt not to take a shot if a deer looks like it would be too much of a chore to drag back to the truck.
If I've got over a 50/50 shot (I'm shooting trad archery without even a shelf on the bow) then I'd take it. Like I said that's my standard on what I "owe" the animal. And I'm not spending all day out in the woods just to kill a deer you know what I normally do is just take the bow with me when I'm out looking at plants or looking for snakes and piddling around or whatever and if I see an opportunity I'll take it and my bar is pretty low I guess.
Because lifting working and jiuitsu take all my time and they are all infinitely more applicable to real life than archery. If I wanted to hunt caveman style i'd cultivate the local population of worms snails and ants for use in emergencies, but mainly to use their guts to sprinkle into bodies of water while I stand in the shallows and spearfish.
>Venison has more protein per lb than beef
I have to get into hunting asap. Kill a few deer, then stockpile a bunch of cuts in a deep freezer.
Need to learn how to shoot accurately though (archery & rifle)
I'm going back to college this year to do my master's and am probably gonna take up both archery and fencing for the fun of it, seems like the only place that you can really get into that stuff as an adult
>I'm going back to college this year to do my master's and am probably gonna take up both archery and fencing for the fun of it, seems like the only place that you can really get into that stuff as an adult
That's based AF
Maybe look for historical profs engaged in fencing, some interesting guys there (lindybeige is one on youtube)
>try out archery >shoot arrows for an hour >fun.jpeg >lose all feeling in the fingers that were pulling the chord >took 6 months to come back
never again, I know you can use gloves but it looks homosexual
>try out power tools >work for an hour >productive.jpeg >lose all hearing in the ears that were hearing the tools >took forever months to come back
never again, I know you can use hearing protection but it looks homosexual
>Max out your fit potential by paring archery with pole dancing.
If you had just posted 'tree climbing' instead of pole dancing this would be Robin Hood as frick, but then you made it some kinda Merry homosexualry Men
I had a friend in high school who was really into archery (self taught) and he made his own bows and arrows.
The whole hobby was really cool but he did get really jacked on one side of his torso, kinda like a beat off arm but it was his whole body lmao
Place near me still requires masks as of July 2023 and the website has a vibe of "transwomen are women, chud". I'm not willing to pay $50 an hour to hang around with dungeons and dragons dungeon masters and fat women with chapped lips
Archery sounds fun but I dont live in a rural area where you can go innawoods and enjoy nature, and I dont wanna go to homosexual clubs and ranges and other reddit shit
I like archery. Used to shoot as a kid. Went on to make my first bow - had stave ready, seasoned and everything. Moved involuntarily, but still went on to shape stave - 10 hours of whittling, sunrise to sunset, to make that maple sapling a nice smooth D-back bow. And then a dog chewed it to bits while it was in a storage closet.
More dangerous than guns for the user
More maintenance required that I don't trust myself to do well enough not to have something break and make me go permablind
See maintenence isn't so bad- less than a gun. I mean you basically just wax a string that's about it. Now unlike firearms the arrows are an entire ordeal but a worn out arrow is probably just going to be an accuracy problem not an actual danger. The most dangerous thing about a bow is if you overdraw the arrow or you have one glance back at you.
Now a bow fishing rig can be downright dangerous though.
Imagine bleeding out on the sidewalk and dying because some autistic schizo decided to shoot an arrow from a rooftop
this never happens
I will make it happen
didn't a norwegian guy go on a spree with a bow and arrow a few years back?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/europe/norway-bow-and-arrow-attack-suspect-intl/index.html
deboooooooonked your b***h ass
it does happen
>five people killed
what painful deaths that must have been. I wonder if he was using barbed arrows too
If you read into it he he shot them with the arrows and then they went down he finished them off with a knife so it was pretty brutal
"The hypothesis around jihad has not been strengthened in the same way as the health hypothesis.”
HAHAAH EVERY SINGLE TIME
what else is there to say?
our best scientists and policy experts are baffled
research and discussion around this issue shall continue
>I'm a cop in a larger city
We had a dude wander into the woods and get an arrow to the chest from a autist schizo in a homeless camp
crackhead legolas
they said he didn't exist...
9 months ago in Italy of all places. You should talk less because you have no idea what you're talking about.
https://nypost.com/2022/11/04/man-celebrating-sons-birth-fatally-shot-with-arrow-in-italy/
ban bows when?
How many more serial archeries are we going to have to deal with befors the king finally does something?
>leaving the house without your plate armor
Imagine exactly that but with a gun
And it happens all the time
I used to do it but then moved away from my mentor.
>take archery
>”it’s fun!”
>*hit bullseye*
>”now what?”
>…
Do it again b***h.
>>”now what?”
Now go get your hunting license for bow season
>license
>season
Jokes aside if anyone wants to get into this you better not be a puss because shooting an animal with traditional archery is about the most brutal thing you can do to it, and with anything bigger than a turkey the odds are you will just wound it.
Start with rabbits they are about the size of the kill zone on bigger animals.
The most brutal thing you can do to a deer is let it die its natural life. Deer only live as long as they can fend off and outrun predators. It's not like they are dying peacefully surrounded by loved ones.
sticking a broadhead into the side of a deer and realizing you missed its lung/heart by a tiny bit only to watch it run off and bed down to either bleed out or recover painfully is a far worse crime
Killing animals isn't a crime you puss puss.
You're a psychopath if you think making an animal suffer is a good thing.
Guys, don't worry. You're both gigantic homosexuals for arguing past each other and addressing nothing that was actually said.
Confirmed for sheltered little city b***h who has zero understanding of how brutal nature really is. Dying at the hands of a hunter is a thousand times better than the alternative. Being slowly eaten alive by predators over a period of hours, starting with its legs, is not a fun way to go, but that's what usually happens. Or when they break a leg and can't move away from the insects, and end up being slowly devoured by nasty little insects over a period of several days. You clearly don't understand how brutal nature is when you whine about the possibility of a hunter missing an internal organ and the animal bleeding out in a relatively short period of time
You completely missed the point moron. Congrats, you likely have autism. There is a difference between killing an animal quickly with a gunshot and making an animal suffer and bleed out with a shitty larp bow.
A proper recurve bow can kill an animal just as fast as a rifle. A hunter not being proficient with a bow and missing the shot is not an argument since the exact same thing can be applied to rifle hunters who don't practice
Look a recurve bow is inherently lower percentage compared to a rifle from an accuracy standpoint. With a rifle you can basically guarantee you are going to hit a fist sized zone. With a recurve bow no matter how much experience you have there is just a higher chance you will be off. And I say that as someone with experience shooting animals with recurve and long bows.
Aside from the extreme accuracy- a rifle is designed for massive shock and opening a fairly large wound channel. A broadhead just sort of slices through and depends on cutting a good artery etc. which is inherently lower percentage.
I disagree vehemently that a bow is comparable to a rifle in terms of having a quick kill. Even in perfect conditions with a perfectly accurate shot... the arrow just doesn't do the trauma that a rifle does.
I agree it isn't a crime but you do sort of feel like shit doing that and for what? for sport? Anyways I'd say you want to feel comfortable that you have at least a 75% chance of hitting the kill zone before you even think about shooting something like a deer. The problem is people can't be honest with themselves and think they are fricking Howard Hill because they hit a bullseye on a target a few times. That's why I say start with rabbits. If you can hit a rabbit reliably you are probably good enough.
>puss puss
you can say homosexual here, anon
depends on the animal
if you kill my animals I am eating your entire family
>your entire family
you're no better than the chinese with their punishments of up to seven degrees of relation with the criminal
>values animal life over humans
Morally bankrupt position to have.
This is like saying you'll cannibalize someone's family for totalling your car.
It all depends though I'm sure some just drop dead more peacefully than others- you know some probably just like expire. The bigger concern is not that it takes an hour+ for the deer to bleed out... the bigger concern is that you injure it and it doesn't die at all.
Anyways, the point is that killing a deer with traditional archery is way harder on the animal than just shooting it and people often don't realize this until the first time they shoot an animal with trad archery. Even compared to a compound bow or crossbow it is way worse. The first time I shot a rabbit was with like a bodkin/game point (it was a serious point but not a broadhead). The point did its job and just skewered the rabbit but didn't pass all the way through and it was just standing there, skewered, for a considerable amount of time which I did not expect and I eventually just ended up breaking its neck. Anyways it doesn't bother me too much but it is not for the faint of heart.
>The most brutal thing you can do to a deer is let it die its natural life. Deer only live as long as they can fend off and outrun predators. It's not like they are dying peacefully surrounded by loved ones.
I am 10,000% sure the most brutal thing you can do to a deer is to persistence hunt it, just a man (or men) barefoot carrying only sticks sharpened in fire chasing down an animal until it is too exhausted to get away, when you finally reach it and stab it, letting its lifeblood drain away as you prepare a fire to roast your catch.
Getting exhausted and dying of a spear to the heart doesn't sound quite as bad as being slowly eaten alive by predators over a period of 5-10 hours, starting with the legs, or being slowly eaten alive by insects over a period of 24-48 hours, starting with the eyes. You fricking moron
Well that's strictly academic considering persistence hunting is- for all intents and purposes- a rooners fantasy and myth.
>shooting an animal with traditional archery is about the most brutal thing you can do to it
Lol as if, modern recurve bows and even longbows can get so quiet and broadheads are so razor sharp that half the time deer will just trot off like they barely realize they’ve been hit. Compounds, crossbows, and rifles are all way louder and spook the deer into running off but as long as you hit it in the heart/lungs it’s going to be dead within 100 yards or so, which is a FAST fricking death when you see how quick a deer can really move.
With archery the biggest issue is not the muscle memory technique/form of drawing and releasing the arrow on target.. don't get me wrong that is step number one.
The hardest part of the learning curve with traditional archery hunting is having to guage the distance of the target in the woods. The amount of arrow drop is significant. For me the focal point and target point align at about 35-30 yards.. but being able to see a target in the woods with terrain and knowing how far away it is, is sort of a learned skill or feel that you can never get on a practice target from a set distance with no terrain.
now step further back and do it again
zoom zoom
Thats literally everything
>Do it again
>Make it harder
If you aren't enjoying the process you're doing it wrong
take a few steps back?
bullsheart
You have to make groups. Tighter the better. Hitting the bullseye once doesn't mean much.
I mean, you don't HAVE to group. But it's what most of us do.
i notice that my friends who're into archery have massive forearms despite not lifting much, pretty embarrassed tbh, might pick it up soon because it looks cool
they would have one big forearm, no? it's a fairly asymmetric sport
Anyone of these people ever actually kill anything on trad. archery?
I grew up bow hunting deer, bow season was always a few weeks earlier than rifle; had to put food on the table somehow.
If it was about literally putting food on the table you'd not give a frick about those DNR dates kek. Or you'd just get some hogs chickens or goats. No you wanted a velvet trophy I bet... or to beat the neighbor to that big buck most likely.
Around the fall time the heat bill got higher, it ate into our income and we were pretty poor, plus I knew conservation officers and really didn't want to get caught poaching.
We actually had cattle, but those were our income and we only butchered one if it had to be put down anyway. I wish we had chickens, loved birds when I was younger.
I don't care for trophy hunting, taking a life sucks even when there's a reason for it but if you do it.
All I'm saying is that for the trouble and effort to buy a compound bow, learning to use it, and going and sitting in the woods just so you could get a three week head start on deer season... just does not seem sensible for someone who is hard-up you know I mean like maybe that time and money could be spent better. And I'm not trying to be a dick but it just seems like wasted time effort and money I mean hell you'd probably have more luck just cruising around and looking for roadkill kek.
>All I'm saying is that for the trouble and effort to buy a compound bow, learning to use it, and going and sitting in the woods just so you could get a three week head start on deer season...
I grew up shooting guns and bows so learning wasn't the hard part; we already had the biw from before we fell on harder times and I enjoyed my time in the woods, I lived in the middle of nowhere and was used to it.
>just does not seem sensible for someone who is hard-up you know I mean like maybe that time and money could be spent better.
I would leave the house at the crack of dawn, be set up by sunrise and wait for a couple of hours. Didn't have to go far, maybe a 20 minute trek down the bush trails to get to my stand. Never had to buy anything except for a good skinning knife.
>And I'm not trying to be a dick but it just seems like wasted time effort and money I mean hell you'd probably have more luck just cruising around and looking for roadkill kek.
Given the circumstances I was in it was a pretty good move, I wouldn't consider it wasted time because I did it before the day started or on leisure days if I had the opportunity.
Roadkill is also super unsafe to eat unless it's FRESH fresh; shattered bones and organs can really frick up the meat. I personally would not be above it if the situation arose but I have little siblings and a mother that I didn't want getting sick lol
If I was on hard times I'd grow a bit of corn every year to put in a bin for grinding feed and I'd pen up some hogs and make a chicken coup. It just seems nigh on criminal to have hungry mouths depending on someone bow hunting is all I'm saying.
Oh we always had a garden and that shit was out of a ghibli movie, it was my moms pride and joy. We managed to avoid going hungry, I just wanted to make sure we weren't just eating but eating *well*.
Keeping hogs is horrible, the smell is vile and they're mean little frickers so I never considered having my own. Some farmers we knew had pigs and didn't enjoy it one bit. My cousins did lamb for a few years and they were fun.
I still wish we had chickens though, my older sister keeps some with her husband now.
I think hogs are one of the best animals to deal with personally you don't have to put the pen right by your house either old timers used to have pens all over the place near any little puddle that held water.
Old compounds have lasted decades. If you paid 600 for compound in the 90s. Have gone hunting ten years and we're successful 5 of them, it more than patios for itself. With the meat prices increasing, if you spend 2k on a bow now and then hunt for the next two years, or will have nearly paid for itself, if you're hunting more than just deer
>Paid for itself
Kek what the frick are you talking about? The meat is basically worthless except for the backstrap how does it pay for itself? I mean the other guy might have fallen into a weird position where after substantial mental gymnastics he could justify the whole song-and-dance about being hard-up and the extra three weeks of deer season being important (kek which I still find dubious considering he would max out his limit anyways and he was law abiding despite having a hungry belly etc.)
Anyways let's not pretend for 99% of people it is not just for sport okay? I just don't see the sport OR utility justifying the compound bow I mean it is like you took a bow and tried to turn it into a shitty gun or crossbow kek it isn't a money issue even though if I was actually hard up I could think of 100 things better to spend $600 dollars on than a compound bow and $20 arrows etc.
Lol literally fricking moronic 95% of the time you are going to be tracking and waiting a considerable period for a deer to bleed with archery. Way longer than with a gun it is actually so fricking insane to even suggest archery is somehow MORE humane than a rifle it is laughable kek. Also a deer almost always realizes its been hit and immediately runs (provably towards water for some reason) anyways I've seen deer drop from a gun shot never seen or even heard of a deer that didn't take tracking after a shot with a bow.
I spent more on my bow than you did on your car. U mad?
Do you want a reward for being moronic or were you just pretending as usual?
>mindbroken zoomie having a nuclear meltdown over bowhunting
kek
Something being less humane is not a big issue for me just don't be delusional and say it is kek when it obviously is.
Even if it were true it wouldn't make me mad I'm happy with the things I have. I just wish people would own up to the fact that it is a sport gadget not utilitarian etc.
How much land do you have to hunt on?
You're moronic. It doesn't matter if you use a bow or a rifle, if you have decent aim it will drop a deer just the same
t. Hunts with funs and bows.
A bow is inherently lower percentage. With a rifle, at any hunting range you will have almost zero drop to even consider.
With a recurve bow etc., in order to have high accuracy, you have to be able to perfectly judge the distance almost intuitively which can be difficult on terrain. A heavy enough bow to hunt with allows for very little aiming other than a brief aim point down the shaft. Furthermore a great deal of fine accuracy on a bow (the difference between hitting a basketball sized target and a squirrel sized target) often comes down to the arrow itself as well. Anything even slightly stiffer can put you off a few inches. And if you are using actually going full traditional with wooden arrows, this is even more pronounced. Not to mentions small various in reflected arrows etc etc.
With your best arrows on flat terrain there are enough factors that competent hunters cannot expect anywhere near the accuracy and high percentage shooting as with a rifle unless you are fricking Howard Hill or Byron Ferguson etc. kek. So even if I can reliably hit a rabbit from about 25 yards that doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to have a clean kill shot on a deer.
*refletched
> had to put food on the table somehow.
Are you larping anon, you’re only lying to yourself
Seems fun. It's something humans did for the entirety of human history up until like 200 years. There might be some cool unknown esoteric benefits from practicing it that modern man has lost.
Like sinning (hamartia)?
I have. Its fun.
the only sport that is more reddit than climbing
Why are you so obsessed with reddit?
He will come up with any excuse to not exercise.
because it's my favourite website
archery is hardly exercising
> Belongingness is the human emotional need to be an accepted member of a group. Whether it is family, friends, co-workers, a religion, or something else, some people tend to have an 'inherent' desire to belong and be an important part of something greater than themselves.
By calling others redditor, he is strenghtening the idea that is is a part of the IST user group, making him feel like he belongs. It is a very natural but sometimes damaging desire to be a part of an exclusive group.
>an exclusive group
IST isn't exclusive though. It's a public anonymous website. The 2016 election alone drew like tens of thousands to the website due to /misc/.
i bowhunt not with a homosexual bow like that guy has
Yeah we know. You use a compound bow because you're too weak to draw a normal recurve. Many such cases with people who don't have proper back muscles developed.
post body i know you won't cause you are dyel
The difference with a recurve vs compound is the let off one the cams cycle past a certain threshold. Are you moronic?
Why not just use a gun though kek I mean with a compound bow you have sights, a valley to hold it in, a trigger release... I mean what's the point its like you're trying to turn the bow into a gun. It's basically a crossbow at the very least there is very little skill involved.
They’re are different seasons where you’re only allowed to use bows because of state laws or whatever
You get about a month more in deer season in my state- and the only other advantage is if you want something in velvet or if you hunt over persimmons (that are played out by the time regular season starts).
Anyways I don't care about having a velvet trophy and I'd hunt on archery even during the regular season so it just seems silly to use a compound bow contraption. There's just no sport. Do you want the extra month that bad? It's just a date on a calendar anyways kek
Not him but,
mostly the ethics of a cleanest kill possible. Turkey hunting it doesn't matter as much and I'd be fine with a long bow. But I don't want potentially hit a shoulderblade because I wanted to larp.
Yeah I mean you aren't wrong but I would just remind you that you can wound a turkey too.
Anyways I'm not a bleeding heart. I have no overt desire to wound an animal either though. If I feel I have a good shot with a high chance of mortality... let's say over 50%? Then I feel I've done all that is required of me as far as a deer is concerned even if it turned out the other way. There is just zero sport in shooting a deer with a rifle and all this larp shit about eating deer meat is bullshit it is inferior meat and the real reason for any of this for 99% of people is sport anyways let's just be real.
>If I feel I have a good shot with a high chance of mortality... let's say over 50%
That seems like a low bar especially for the early season. I have be almost certain or at very least surprised if goes awry. Let's say about 90% despite how videogamey it sounds. Only time I take risks is with distances when I can't get within 20 yards but have a level shot, in low wind with the deer standing almost perpendicular to me. I'd probably just let em go or risk getting closer otherwise. There's enough deer here it's not like it will be more than 6 hours before I find another oppertunity. Hell I'll even opt not to take a shot if a deer looks like it would be too much of a chore to drag back to the truck.
If I've got over a 50/50 shot (I'm shooting trad archery without even a shelf on the bow) then I'd take it. Like I said that's my standard on what I "owe" the animal. And I'm not spending all day out in the woods just to kill a deer you know what I normally do is just take the bow with me when I'm out looking at plants or looking for snakes and piddling around or whatever and if I see an opportunity I'll take it and my bar is pretty low I guess.
string keeps hitting my forearm and I can't aim for shit
I prefer fencing
it hurts my left shoulder to hold the bow still and makes me unable to do shoulder workouts on my left arm 🙁
Because lifting working and jiuitsu take all my time and they are all infinitely more applicable to real life than archery. If I wanted to hunt caveman style i'd cultivate the local population of worms snails and ants for use in emergencies, but mainly to use their guts to sprinkle into bodies of water while I stand in the shallows and spearfish.
>heh I’m sure to win because of my superior spee-AAAACk
>be me
>shoot archery
>get license
>kill deer
>process deer
>eat venison protein
Oy love yous got a loicense foh dat baow?
*fricks up your skeleton*
Again, it's your choice.
>Venison has more protein per lb than beef
I have to get into hunting asap. Kill a few deer, then stockpile a bunch of cuts in a deep freezer.
Need to learn how to shoot accurately though (archery & rifle)
I don't need pseudomasculine hobbies to appear masculine.
What are your hobbies?
knitting and piano
Flyfishing, gym, reading
I'm going back to college this year to do my master's and am probably gonna take up both archery and fencing for the fun of it, seems like the only place that you can really get into that stuff as an adult
>I'm going back to college this year to do my master's and am probably gonna take up both archery and fencing for the fun of it, seems like the only place that you can really get into that stuff as an adult
That's based AF
Maybe look for historical profs engaged in fencing, some interesting guys there (lindybeige is one on youtube)
>there's one (1) HEMA group in my city
>90 bucks / sesh
>mfw poorgay
>try out archery
>shoot arrows for an hour
>fun.jpeg
>lose all feeling in the fingers that were pulling the chord
>took 6 months to come back
never again, I know you can use gloves but it looks homosexual
>try out power tools
>work for an hour
>productive.jpeg
>lose all hearing in the ears that were hearing the tools
>took forever months to come back
never again, I know you can use hearing protection but it looks homosexual
I've never had trouble with the fingers at all- the bow arm shoulder can get sort of over worked though.
Did archery for a few years but moved and haven't picked it up since I think I'll look for a range near me thanks OP
I once shot a deer's leg off when i was young and new to hunting and we never found it in the end.
I need to make the bow first
Falconry takes up all my time
Can we see your falcon?
how did you get into that?
seems like top notch aristocratic hobby
Max out your fit potential by paring archery with pole dancing.
>Max out your fit potential by paring archery with pole dancing.
If you had just posted 'tree climbing' instead of pole dancing this would be Robin Hood as frick, but then you made it some kinda Merry homosexualry Men
lmao imagine your dyel taking up archery and you are really happy about it. And then the pole shows up and you are back to being disappointed
I had a friend in high school who was really into archery (self taught) and he made his own bows and arrows.
The whole hobby was really cool but he did get really jacked on one side of his torso, kinda like a beat off arm but it was his whole body lmao
Because I'm rich and can afford a crossbow.
can you meet prostitutes
Place near me still requires masks as of July 2023 and the website has a vibe of "transwomen are women, chud". I'm not willing to pay $50 an hour to hang around with dungeons and dragons dungeon masters and fat women with chapped lips
Archery sounds fun but I dont live in a rural area where you can go innawoods and enjoy nature, and I dont wanna go to homosexual clubs and ranges and other reddit shit
I wake up at 5AM and I run a 5K and shoot my bow 30x every morning unironically
I like archery. Used to shoot as a kid. Went on to make my first bow - had stave ready, seasoned and everything. Moved involuntarily, but still went on to shape stave - 10 hours of whittling, sunrise to sunset, to make that maple sapling a nice smooth D-back bow. And then a dog chewed it to bits while it was in a storage closet.
I haven't touched a bow since.
My arms are wobbly and I don't want people to see them ):
I shoot poorgay meme guns instead
I'm good
why not just get a sword instead of swinging some shitty pipe around
why not just use a rod instead of swinging some sword around
More dangerous than guns for the user
More maintenance required that I don't trust myself to do well enough not to have something break and make me go permablind
See maintenence isn't so bad- less than a gun. I mean you basically just wax a string that's about it. Now unlike firearms the arrows are an entire ordeal but a worn out arrow is probably just going to be an accuracy problem not an actual danger. The most dangerous thing about a bow is if you overdraw the arrow or you have one glance back at you.
Now a bow fishing rig can be downright dangerous though.
Because guns are cooler
I've always been intrigued by it but never actually found the time to pick up the hobby.
I have, unfortunately I do not currently have anywhere to practice.