I don't understand why you guys are so mad about it. I started it for the first time since two weeks and a half ago and I'm already down 4kg (roughly 9lbs) and feel incredible (my bicep veins are significantly more pronounced, which is proof it's not only water weight).
On top of that I'm incredible sharper mentally (to the point I no longer need adhd meth) and much less anxious or ruminating.
So what's so wrong about it ? I understand people get angry about the cultist aspect of it but I don't think there's anything wrong about cutting sugar and grains.
I mostly eat lean meats, green beans, broccoli and eggs, olive oil and butter,coke zero or monster zero once in a while. I shit much less than I used to do and am not as bloated.
I don't count macros or calories, I just eat until satiated and thats it. With a rough estimate I just know I'm under 50g of carbs a day.
Why you guys so angry about it. If it works it work
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Keto is a redditor faddiet and their cultists are insufferable, fat, soccer mom's who don't lift. Keto causes rapid hairloss, kidney disease, and your body only uses it as a mechanism to stay alive in starvation. The apologists are literally cultists.
There's a moronic veganschizo indian redditor called moxyte and he preaches his poo in loo diet on IST in hopes that the rest of IST would follow his shitty Michael Greger DYEL diet.
>Ketoschizo
Hello saar!!! Kindly redeem the veganschizo and frick your sis benchod
India has a lot of vegetarianism and huge rates of childhood stunting. very interesting...
yeah they're literally devolving. I remember seeing something at one point that they have bigger intestines to try to digest all the plant slop they eat.
Also highest diabetes rates in the world.
I'm Indian now preaching what now and a vegan too? Last time I dropped by you little shit called me Mexican. Yes you, you are a redditor named SneedsAndDesires69, of which the ban modnote reads:
>9 months ago
>This is the infamous ketoschizo from IST. Fabricates slander and writes rape fantasies & death threats there. Obsessed mentally ill cyberstalker. Do not unban, keep blocked, do not respond to modmail.
You're still going on in every fricking thread about me here day in day out. Unbelievable.
ketotroony is seething because his reddit diet is a israeli scam and he is unable to follow a balanced diet due to his inferior genetics
>Keto causes kidney disease
why are you lying?
>In our own LCD cohort of 143 patients with normal renal function or only mild CKD, over an average of 30 months the serum creatinine improved by a significant mean of 4.7 (14.9) μmol/L.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34468402/
Leftists always lie. That's what they do.
He's not lying. High salt, high saturated fat and high protein consumption are the only three things causal to kidney damage. All three are things which keto scammers encourage people to eat more of.
>serum creatinine improved
What in the frick that has to do with kidney health? You compulsively lying fricks throw just about any shit on the wall as a talking point and hope it sticks.
creatinine improved
>What in the frick that has to do with kidney health?
this is a joke right? if you read the paper eGFR improved as well disproving your nonsense
Here's the full text. They didn't measure protein, salt and saturated fat consumption at all.
https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/fulltext/2021/10000/renal_function_in_patients_following_a_low.8.aspx
Pic related is the diet advice sheet given and I'm okay with it:
>unlimited greens and veggies
>fat in moderation
>limit on eggs
>avoid cheese
if you're not eating grains and sugar the calories have to come from somewhere. Either fat went up protein went up or both. By your logic kidneys should've gotten worse. They didnt
Judging by subjects weight loss a lot of calories never made it to their mouth. Subjects weren't instructed to eat a fixed amount of calories or keep diet records either.
It also says use coconut oil and use more salt. More things that should destroy kidneys somehow by your nonsensical "logic"
If used in excess, yes, and you're plain hallucinating about that "more salt" part. Nowhere in their instructions it says so, au contraire "un-salted nuts are OK".
Ketolards are so mentally ill holy shit.
>"some folk need more salt"
are you blind or dumb?
Statement, not instruction. Especially considering the actual instructions part which contradicts that. But let me guess, you will die on that hill that it was a direct instruction no matter what, and then further insists that they all ate more salt despite no measurements available to prove it. You're welcome to do so but I'm not wasting my time on that lunacy.
why are you just brushing past the creatinine topic like you didn't completely embarrass yourself? i think you're trying to mimic critical thinking you've seen in others, but you don't have the knowledge base or the self control to execute.
>Creatinine is a breakdown product of creatine phosphate in muscle, and is usually produced at a fairly constant rate by the body depending on muscle mass[2]. Creatinine is a commonly used as measure of kidney function.
Have you tried not being dehydrated?
Do what you like best, you're still losing fat due to a caloric deficit.
People here hate keto because there's a deranged schizo going around claiming stupid shit.
No one hates keto per se
It’s this. Every single diet or weight loss thread on this board gets shit up by ketards who act like it’s the only way to control weight. Naturally this pisses people off.
But the thing is on other CICO restrictive diets and I was always having cravings and feeling hungry most of the time, even worse when actively lifting heavy. On keto all the cravings are gone and I feel satiated for the whole day with two nice meals
Good for you, I already said do what you like best.
I don't feel hungry on a calorie deficit after two weeks, I felt starved and dizzy when I tried out keto a few years ago for 10 days.
Keto works better for you, it doesn't for me.
Post body.
I accept your concession.
Gotcha. It's nice to have a respectful conversation on 4chin for a change.
It also makes me think it's a nice way to discover grain/gluten intolerances since the mental benefits aren't felt by everybody
>It also makes me think it's a nice way to discover grain/gluten intolerances since the mental benefits aren't felt by everybody
True, fasting worked similarly for me, I had mild lactose intolerance and didn't realize it.
>I felt starved and dizzy when I tried out keto a few years ago for 10 days.
You needed more salt.
Brawndo has electrolytes. That’s what the plants crave. Because it has electrolytes. Everything is fixed with more electrolytes.
You fricks are Idiocracy live performances
It's because you're a huge hambeast with zero discipline
My diet is rich in carbs(unlike landwhales here in more interested in muscle and definition than losing weight properly) even in a caloric deficit and I feel zero hunger
Post body.
I hate both vegan and keto Black folk. Imagine being on this planet once, with a limited lifespan and you fricking restrict yourself like a slave lol.
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>dont be a slave
>but also be a slave to your senses
i think youre the slave, anon
>be carbs
>be the primary energy source for the brain
>Yeah bro I just ate zero carbs and now I have a moronic idea check it out
>I'm going to eat no energy for my brain and muscles
>also I have to eat low protein so my body can be in a state that was thought to cure children's seizures in the 80s
Ever heard about ketones bodies ?
Also I said I don't count macros. I'm not eating 80% of fat. I'd say it's mostly 60 - 40 % protein and fats and the rest being the carbs contained in the vegetables
its mechanism to keep u alive, nothing you really want for a longer period of time
also ur body gets dried out
>eVEr hEaRd AboUt kEtONEs boDIeS
People who follow keto suddenly cant eat all the shit anymore, that they stuffed in themselfs anymore. They attribute that success to keto, but its actually the fact they dont eat shitty carbs anymore.
With a proper diet, complex and good carbs, not snacks and other shit you could achiev the same. Keto itself isnt good or bad, its simply another diet.
It's just one guy (moxyte) and he hates keto because he is a vegan.
You've got brain worms buddy
>which is proof it's not only water weight
Except it isn't.
I achieved similar vein perspective on CICO cuts
CICO keto OMAD is the best cutting diet simply because you don't get hungry due to insulin spikes.
Keto is a good diet for maintenance if you want to stay lean and avoid carb bloat when at lower bodyfat %. If you want to look juicy, you just carb load and drink a shitload of water to get a huge pump.
Keto IS NOT good if you need to perform well in endurance sports (my performance when cycyling/swimming dropped by around 20% when carb-deprived).
For muscle building/bulking keto is NOT GOOD because you actually want carbs to push lifts.
>t. done keto to get to 12%
Carbs have zero benefit for weight lifting aside from placebo.
Get a trip Black personhomosexual
>having readily available energy (glycogen) in the muscle is not better than having it
Yeah, the study is shit.
Eating carbs depletes glycogen faster.
>muscle wants to use glycogen
>muscle consumes glycogen because host is not a ketard and knows more will come back to replace it
or.
>muscle wants to use glycogen
>muscle decides not to use glycogen except in emergency because host is ketard that doesn't consume carbs to replace it
When you eat carbs it raises insulin. When your insulin is elevated your body can't use fat even though it wants to. This causes you to run out of glycogen and therefore energy much faster.
The best diet for endurance is zero carb. Your body can create all the glucose it needs and is able to freely use as much fatty acids and ketones as it wants.
Pic related.
words cannot express how pathetic you are.
just know that we are all laughing at you.
>fake consensus
>social shaming
I don't think that cattle herding technique works on IST.
if you stuff a lot of sugar and cheap carbs in your body, you eat more calories than you spend and get fat. Its not about muscle.
your meta-analysis doesn't even say what you think it does.
Thing is don’t you have to limit protein in order to make room for all those fat calories? Seems counter intuitive to be spending your calorie budget on fat when you’re trying to get rid of it. It’s been a long while since I did keto and I remember constantly craving bread and baked potatos. Maybe I’ll try it again I have some weight to lose.
cause keto is a psyop
Losing weight is easy
Again, this is fit. Not /weightloss/ or something
Look, if it gets you to lose fat, god bless you. There is a schizophrenic that has been posting here for years that denies calories are real and calls people vegans and that’s why people around here get so defensive.
>green beans, broccoli
the keto schizos on this board dont eat any vegetables
>I'm already down 4kg (roughly 9lbs
Wow you cut calories and list weight
>my bicep veins are significantly more pronounced, which is proof it's not only water weight)
Wow you list water weight so not your veins are more visible
>On top of that I'm incredible sharper mentally
Wow you stopped eating garbage and you feel better
>So what's so wrong about it ?
Because you people take absolutely mundane stuff like like this and act like its some miracle that it happens
No one gives a shit about keto. Do what you want. People are tired of the schizo homosexuals spamming their shit all day, which they have for years, saying it is the best and only option. Its objectively not true, but they are too deep into their cult to admit it. And if you don't agree with them, you must be a vegan.
1.Keto doesn’t work for everyone
2. People who are fat as frick will benefit from it
3. Don’t stay on it to long like 1 to 2 months cycles
4. If you have eating problems keto will not help that’s why a lot of people gain weight back
5. Don’t just eat cheese and steak. Fish, olive oil, avocados, animals fats to cook with, coconut oil/mct. Seed oils are fricked for the most part and shouldn’t be heated
6. Keto works for people who don’t lift but you should always lift on keto
keto is fine. The insistence that it's the only way to lose weight is fricking annoying and ketoschizo spams their shit everywhere like a hyper moron.
To this day I can't tell if when people say keto schizo they mean pro or anti keto gays.
I heard about moxy but i mean when someone calls others keto schizo, do they mean he is obsessively in favor or obsessively against it.
It's what moxyte calls anyone who disagrees with him.
Ketoschizos are the lunatic keto shills who spam the same lies and same memes all day every day. Doesn't matter if they get btfo'd over and over, they'll make a new thread with same pictures the next day as if nothing happened. It's quite pointless to spend time arguing with them.
I'm moxyte and every time I check this place they're screeching about me and accusing anyone even remotely shitting on keto of being me. They've been doing that for years. Hence: ketoschizo.
you are starving your brain of nutrients and developing mental moronation because you are a fat lardass who lacks self control
4kg in two and a half weeks including water weight is nothing to write home about, i cut more fat in less time with a normal balanced diet
They can't afford the meat but seething on the internet is free.
you lost weight because you're eating less calorically dense foods. you feel focused and energetic because you lost weight. you are feeling better because you are thinking about your new diet and how good it makes you feel. it's not the diet doing it(but not eating cheeseburgers 3 times per week certainly helps). you can get the same euphoria and weight loss by still eating pasta. just don't eat half the fricking box for dinner and continue to make the majority of your meals healthy meats and some fruits/vegetables. I'm not saying this to be a dick or anything but keto isn't some type of magic it's just an easy way for fatties to lose weight quickly because they don't have to ween themselves off of fats. I did the keto thing for ~3 years about 10 years ago and I gained the weight back quickly because diets are just that - they are temporary. especially all these bullshit fad ones. just shift towards healthier eating and eating slightly less it's much easier in the long term.