Sheesh the angle fraudijg up top is so sad. You can still see the masculine frame too. Don’t do it fellas
Unless you’re like 5’4” and have extremely feminine proportions, everyone, and I mean everyone, is gonna clock you as just a chubby cross dressing fetishist immediately.
a better question, is it ever beneficial to take female hormones as a male? Peat suggests taking progesterone, our 18 yo boy suggests taking estrogen, whats your take on the subject? I dont wanna become a woman, just extend my lifespan
my blood test result claims my estradiol is a bit below reference range for a man.
I feel no negative effects. my face just looks sharp and aggressive and I'm a sociopath
we already have a bunch of chemicals inside us that mimic estrogen
its easier for men to get estrogen ironically, because we live in an upside down israeli hellscape
you go to a doctor and say youre "trans" theyll give you estrogen no questions asked
you say you want to "boost your t", unless youre some 50 year old with a dead dick they'll say no and you have to buy it on the black market
>waiting list
Looks like they got approved, and the line is either too long or the infrastructure is too shit. So the other anon was right about the hellscape, except it's even hellscapier.
Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
Also if i already have high T from consistently working out, if I introduce estrogen for a cycle and my body kind of adjusts and tries to counter it with more T production - after i hop off E, would my nagural T skyrocket?
>Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
E increases dick size according to Bailey Jay and many of those trannies are packing double digits. Come to your own conclusions.
No, and if you will start pinning E on high levels, it can suppress your T production.
>Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
E increases dick size according to Bailey Jay and many of those trannies are packing double digits. Come to your own conclusions.
E indirectly decreases dick size (it decreases erection which can lead to muscle atrophy)
>Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
Kek it’s the exact opposite. T naturally aromatizes into E, which inhibits your balls. You want to take enclomaphine, which directly inhibits Estrogen’s ball shrinking effects
Women are unironically a privileged class in society. The very top is still men and always will be but daily American life favors women. Subconsciously they think it’s better to be a woman than an outcast male. It’s nonsense but that’s legitimately the reason on some level. Any woman becoming a man is giving up the privileges of being a woman just to enter the ruthless competition of being a man with massive handicaps. She’ll never have a man’s size strength or temperament. So it’s going to be a lot less attractive of an option. Even though the guy will inevitably look like a freak there are a lot of protections in place to force people to accept him.
Also this
Norah Vincent was not a transgender though. I've read her book, she outright denies being one or wanting to be one. You'd actually probably like the book because she ends up supporting traditional masculinity by the end of her experiment and did up until her death.
I disagree. It only works if you are above a 6 as a woman. Most women are very ugly and short. Other than getting laid very easily men have far more advantages. If you are a hot woman, then life is easy mode. I would just start an onlyfans and make 10k per month.
>Any woman becoming a man is giving up the privileges of being a woman just to enter the ruthless competition of being a man with massive handicaps. She’ll never have a man’s size strength or temperament. So it’s going to be a lot less attractive of an option
This is the cruel irony of women who become men, they get to see just how harsh women are when judging men first hand...
In 2024 that picture is outdated, my best friend's girlfriend is a self-described "ex-tinder bawd", she's atrocious and fat, and she got drunk once and started telling us how she used to just get railed by multiple random guys every week, so "Don't be a landwhale" -> "Just exist".
>best friend >letting him suffer and humiliate himself like that
I don't think you know what best friend means
when mine was in love with a succubus who was just pulling his strings and leading him on I followed her from university at night and caught her in an alley with a bat, I bent a pipe and told her if she speaks to him again I would break her legs, and made it clear that I don't care about the consequences
she pissed herself on the spot too, I had an alibi prepared and it was just us
first he was pissed at me for a while but then we saw the fate of her next victim and he's now thankful
Simpleton speak. While the effect you’re talking about is likely one factor only a fool would claim to understand the psychology of an entire demographic in such a boiled down way. There are plenty of male outcasts, only a tiny percentage of them wind up taking hormones and changing gender.
What causes one to become trans isn’t something we know. The human psyche is far too complex. People who feel the need to try and simplify the world in this way are either too stupid or too afraid to admit how complicated and nuanced things really are, presumably because your entire worldview is just a house of cards when you think like this and will entirely crumble the second you adopt healthy skepticism
I think streaming is emblematic of this. A woman has a much easier time getting her first 100 viewers, but a man has a 1000x easier time getting his 1001st viewer. A bunch of women break the ceiling via association with men. The culture might have an opening for 1 or 2 exceptionally cute women, but complacency means being replaced by a younger, cuter woman with another gimmick (e.g. Eloise and Hachubby)
If I know anything about society, breaking through to success means everything
>why is it nowadays more common for boys to take girl hormones rather than boy hormones?
Because we live in a society which glorifies the feminine as being both superior and more fun. Being a women is great for all but the bottom 20%, especially in their younger years. Meanwhile being a man typically kinda sucks for all but the top 20%
blasting estrogen keeps away male pattern baldness by preventing the production of DHT (fin and min do this without transitioning), this also has the added benefit of giving you clear soft glowing skin and no gross body odor, the ability to let yourself cry during movies and reportedly it increases your dick size.
Its not. Any commercial gym you go to, you will find dudes taking roids. Lots of guys take steroids, it's not super common but it's not uncommon. It's probably more than you think, at least for me it was. On the other hand, I can count the number of trannies I've seen out in public on one hand, and I highly doubt all of them, if any, were taking female hormones. They all just looked like dudes with long hair wearing an ugly dress. Don't forget that the powers that be are deliberately force feeding you lies across the internet to distort your sense of reality. Don't automatically trust what you see online. Compare it to real life experience and see if it makes any sense in that context first.
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WHEN THE FRICK WILL ERTMAXXXING BECOME MAINSTREAM? HOLY FRICK, FRICK TRT AND THICK RED LEATHERY SKIN, ITS ALL ABOUT ESTROGEN REPLACEMENT THERAPY NOW JESUS CHRIST THIS IS BIG
well could be idk, im too dumb to know the science but wouldnt imagine it works 1:1 for both sex. i dont know why women age specifically, but maybe estrogen keeps men young. it absolutely helps your skin stay moist and supple thats for sure
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T H I R T Y
WHEN THE FRICK WILL ERTMAXXXING BECOME MAINSTREAM? HOLY FRICK, FRICK TRT AND THICK RED LEATHERY SKIN, ITS ALL ABOUT ESTROGEN REPLACEMENT THERAPY NOW JESUS CHRIST THIS IS BIG
A lot of the transition before and after pics on her twitter are just massive weight loss and taking care of your skin and hair, the estrogen is almost incidental, it might make your skin softer but it won't make you attractive on its own.
autogynephelia
Upper right is a dude??
She is a woman, regardless of what she was assigned at birth.
I don't know what the bottom two are without asking them first, as all polite conversations should begin.
You should have a nice day
>She is a woman, regardless of what she was assigned at birth
Nope, HE is a mutant now.
Eunuch is the correct term.
Ok israelite
dude... your opinion will age just as well as all these chrstian/atheist youtube channels from 2007/2008...
have fun being left behind
need sauce on upper right please
@michellexotter
Sheesh the angle fraudijg up top is so sad. You can still see the masculine frame too. Don’t do it fellas
Unless you’re like 5’4” and have extremely feminine proportions, everyone, and I mean everyone, is gonna clock you as just a chubby cross dressing fetishist immediately.
This but also I'm sure some israeli or korean plastic surgeon has a way of narrowing a man's shoulders/back/waist and widening the hips, or will soon.
The market for that would be quite large so it's a matter of time really.
>The market for that would be quite large so it's a matter of time really.
This already exists. It involves crushing the rips.
a better question, is it ever beneficial to take female hormones as a male? Peat suggests taking progesterone, our 18 yo boy suggests taking estrogen, whats your take on the subject? I dont wanna become a woman, just extend my lifespan
I've never seen any scientific study state that it was beneficial in any way (for what I've looked through)
my blood test result claims my estradiol is a bit below reference range for a man.
I feel no negative effects. my face just looks sharp and aggressive and I'm a sociopath
we already have a bunch of chemicals inside us that mimic estrogen
its easier for men to get estrogen ironically, because we live in an upside down israeli hellscape
you go to a doctor and say youre "trans" theyll give you estrogen no questions asked
you say you want to "boost your t", unless youre some 50 year old with a dead dick they'll say no and you have to buy it on the black market
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Where is your rebuttal?
i shouldn't need to rebut the claim that doctors will give people estrogen 'no questions asked', but sure:
https://www.gendergp.com/nhs-waiting-lists-forcing-trans-people-to-leave-the-uk/
> UK is a shithole with useless healthcare
No shit. But we were talking about the civilized world (USA + Western Europe)
>waiting list
Looks like they got approved, and the line is either too long or the infrastructure is too shit. So the other anon was right about the hellscape, except it's even hellscapier.
Kill all trannies
Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
Also if i already have high T from consistently working out, if I introduce estrogen for a cycle and my body kind of adjusts and tries to counter it with more T production - after i hop off E, would my nagural T skyrocket?
Asking for a friend
>Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
E increases dick size according to Bailey Jay and many of those trannies are packing double digits. Come to your own conclusions.
No, and if you will start pinning E on high levels, it can suppress your T production.
E indirectly decreases dick size (it decreases erection which can lead to muscle atrophy)
>Hmm.. if testosterone reduces ball size.. would estrogen increase it?
Kek it’s the exact opposite. T naturally aromatizes into E, which inhibits your balls. You want to take enclomaphine, which directly inhibits Estrogen’s ball shrinking effects
It's pushed on them by schools and woke culture
Women are unironically a privileged class in society. The very top is still men and always will be but daily American life favors women. Subconsciously they think it’s better to be a woman than an outcast male. It’s nonsense but that’s legitimately the reason on some level. Any woman becoming a man is giving up the privileges of being a woman just to enter the ruthless competition of being a man with massive handicaps. She’ll never have a man’s size strength or temperament. So it’s going to be a lot less attractive of an option. Even though the guy will inevitably look like a freak there are a lot of protections in place to force people to accept him.
Also this
That's why FtM are miserable
Norah Vincent was not a transgender though. I've read her book, she outright denies being one or wanting to be one. You'd actually probably like the book because she ends up supporting traditional masculinity by the end of her experiment and did up until her death.
yeah because she realized what life is like as a manlet kek
I disagree. It only works if you are above a 6 as a woman. Most women are very ugly and short. Other than getting laid very easily men have far more advantages. If you are a hot woman, then life is easy mode. I would just start an onlyfans and make 10k per month.
>Any woman becoming a man is giving up the privileges of being a woman just to enter the ruthless competition of being a man with massive handicaps. She’ll never have a man’s size strength or temperament. So it’s going to be a lot less attractive of an option
This is the cruel irony of women who become men, they get to see just how harsh women are when judging men first hand...
In 2024 that picture is outdated, my best friend's girlfriend is a self-described "ex-tinder bawd", she's atrocious and fat, and she got drunk once and started telling us how she used to just get railed by multiple random guys every week, so "Don't be a landwhale" -> "Just exist".
>best friend
>letting him suffer and humiliate himself like that
I don't think you know what best friend means
when mine was in love with a succubus who was just pulling his strings and leading him on I followed her from university at night and caught her in an alley with a bat, I bent a pipe and told her if she speaks to him again I would break her legs, and made it clear that I don't care about the consequences
she pissed herself on the spot too, I had an alibi prepared and it was just us
first he was pissed at me for a while but then we saw the fate of her next victim and he's now thankful
>In 2024 that picture is outdated
Picrel is the other version i have that fits your critique perfectly
nah, here's the real pic
Simpleton speak. While the effect you’re talking about is likely one factor only a fool would claim to understand the psychology of an entire demographic in such a boiled down way. There are plenty of male outcasts, only a tiny percentage of them wind up taking hormones and changing gender.
What causes one to become trans isn’t something we know. The human psyche is far too complex. People who feel the need to try and simplify the world in this way are either too stupid or too afraid to admit how complicated and nuanced things really are, presumably because your entire worldview is just a house of cards when you think like this and will entirely crumble the second you adopt healthy skepticism
I think streaming is emblematic of this. A woman has a much easier time getting her first 100 viewers, but a man has a 1000x easier time getting his 1001st viewer. A bunch of women break the ceiling via association with men. The culture might have an opening for 1 or 2 exceptionally cute women, but complacency means being replaced by a younger, cuter woman with another gimmick (e.g. Eloise and Hachubby)
If I know anything about society, breaking through to success means everything
jesus christ i love feminine boys what the frick?
Your really under estimating how many dudes have taken roids.
For some reasons i get wild over natural puffy hormone breasts on fembois
Frick
Holy shit thats a male stance if i ever seen one. This homosexual should take acting lessons
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Weak b8 is weak
It's not whether you would or not. It's whether in the video you'd be a maskcuck or a shameless chad.
Would suckle.
Shame that a T this attractive has an ugly dick
Imagine giving a shit about the dick I would ravage that bussy
I never wear a mask and am on video fricking a few trannies how fricked is my future?
Depends on how hpt they were
damn her clit is huge
name please
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>why is it nowadays more common for boys to take girl hormones rather than boy hormones?
Because we live in a society which glorifies the feminine as being both superior and more fun. Being a women is great for all but the bottom 20%, especially in their younger years. Meanwhile being a man typically kinda sucks for all but the top 20%
I don't know. I produce hormones instead of consuming them.
Reject estrogen
Embrace Trenbolone
Being a girl is more profitable
who is israeliteing who bruh, is the question of our times
one is legal and encouraged, the other is verboten
What drives someone to take estrogen? I had a dumb long hair phase in school but I never felt the need to pass.
Mental illness.
blasting estrogen keeps away male pattern baldness by preventing the production of DHT (fin and min do this without transitioning), this also has the added benefit of giving you clear soft glowing skin and no gross body odor, the ability to let yourself cry during movies and reportedly it increases your dick size.
Girls are just cuter and more beautiful. Why would anyone want to look like a man?
Its not. Any commercial gym you go to, you will find dudes taking roids. Lots of guys take steroids, it's not super common but it's not uncommon. It's probably more than you think, at least for me it was. On the other hand, I can count the number of trannies I've seen out in public on one hand, and I highly doubt all of them, if any, were taking female hormones. They all just looked like dudes with long hair wearing an ugly dress. Don't forget that the powers that be are deliberately force feeding you lies across the internet to distort your sense of reality. Don't automatically trust what you see online. Compare it to real life experience and see if it makes any sense in that context first.
You have probably seen more trannies than you realize that actually passed really well. Just saying.
Mods deleted my threads picture but left this homosexual shit up. Frick you homosexual janny cuck pajeet b***h.
Why would I take something my body already makes on its own in perfectly acceptable quantities?
I look like the bottom but want to frick top
Ain't that the guy that abuses animals
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T H I R T Y
WHEN THE FRICK WILL ERTMAXXXING BECOME MAINSTREAM? HOLY FRICK, FRICK TRT AND THICK RED LEATHERY SKIN, ITS ALL ABOUT ESTROGEN REPLACEMENT THERAPY NOW JESUS CHRIST THIS IS BIG
Women age like milk though, it won't last.
well could be idk, im too dumb to know the science but wouldnt imagine it works 1:1 for both sex. i dont know why women age specifically, but maybe estrogen keeps men young. it absolutely helps your skin stay moist and supple thats for sure
A lot of the transition before and after pics on her twitter are just massive weight loss and taking care of your skin and hair, the estrogen is almost incidental, it might make your skin softer but it won't make you attractive on its own.
forgot my pic
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>b-b-but estrogen gives you wide childbearing hips!!
i'd blast so much cum in his bussy