Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals?
I keep being told it's due to dysgenics.
Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals? I keep being told it's due to dysgenics.
Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals?
I keep being told it's due to dysgenics.
We aren't really meant to. Our bodies have the ability to gain mass but it's not normal for us. We're meant to use tools and tactics for hunting and fighting. You may as well ask why we don't have fangs and claws.
>why we don't have fangs and claws.
well?
>We're meant to use tools and tactics for hunting and fighting
Define meant
>we send giant rods into space to have them explode on the other side of the world with gadget EMP effects
We do, they're called knives and daggers and spears
Then we also have magic claws that we can separate from our bodies, called javelins and arrows and bolts and bullets
>mammals exist
>mammals differ by mutation and selection
>some mammals mutate natural weapons
>humans mutate big brains
>humans manage to survive long enough to mutate big enough brains to cement a winning advantage over nature
>big brain = (a) social ability to organise and form groups (b) puzzlesolving ability to recognise incentives and cause/effect strategy (c) invention to create, use & improve tools (d) understanding of physics to compute trajectories and throw objects
>humans win
Basically picrel
None of this explains why you shouldn't have claws or weaponry as part of your body too
Maybe you should but you don't. Evolution doesn't just magically give you every possible tool you may need. It's doubtful, but maybe we would develop claws if we didn't develop technology (tools, agriculture, etc.) fast enough but we did and now we haven't needed claws for thousands of years.
Would be a waste of energy to maintain compared to the advantage it would give. Over millenia anything an animal doesn't constantly use it loses
does this explain why men are losing their peepees
Claws and big teeth is a niche that was already filled by predators better than us in that specific aspect. Humans throwing a rock to kill prey had significantly less energy expenditure than a predator running full force to catch fast prey. Making a long sharp stick to defend yourself against one of those large animals with said teeth and claws gave you the advantage to damage it at a distance with a higher chance of not getting hurt yourself. Compare that to just about every other predator vs predator who has to get up close and personal to go for the neck every single time, neither one of them is leaving unscathed unless there was a major size difference. Poke big cat with a large stick and it will back off. Some smart Grug decided to combine throw rock and sharp stick together, now they can get in a group and throw a bunch of spears at a big cat and take it down.
See pic related? This is what fricking won the evolutionary arms race, no pun intended. This is what made humans be able to use tools and leverage the physical more than ever seen before on this scale. A human finding a big sturdy stick and swinging that has more power than a punch and can do a lot of damage with hardly any energy used. The chuck of a spear, the pull of a bow string, the swing of a sword, the pull of a trigger, and the push of a button. Imagine any predator on Earth being able to kill its prey simply by looking at it, that is the scale of how efficient weve become at killing things, even past our own need for sustainability. At some point in time, there was a switch that was turned one where we no longer needed to adapt to the planet, we needed the planet to adapt to our needs and wants.
Claws can only manage to destroy in nature while hands gave us the able to create, destroy, and create TO destroy. These stubby appendages made us win. More importantly, claws havent adapted to allow me to call you a homosexual from a different part of our planet.
nice essay you've got a poin-ACK
Keep coping, furgay.
since our ancestor adopted dwelling on the trees we don't have claws as claws were selected out
we could have grow big fangs like gibbons, but then we wouldn't have big brain (no space in the head) and internet and all this shit
>humans excel at tools to such a degree that we've thrown garbage so hard that it has left the solar system
>"yeah but if i had claws i could be like anime"
bro we're so OP we're able to annihilate the planet and we're made of jelly and fat.
jews
>You may as well ask why we don't have fangs and claws.
we do, it's they kept regressing from not being used until they've reached their weak modern forms
you do have canines
I don't even have any teeth at all
I actually know this one, we do it's just that we sit on toilets and eat shit diets. Clean your diet up and squat to shit on the floor and you'll see clean TP every time. Also dogs have the pleasure of being able to lick their own buttholes to clean up
Shut up, pajeet
Wrong its because we dont have anal glands like they do
YOU don't have anal glands?
so basically you're saying... the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race?
No, it means that deciding to eat a hamburger no longer carries a significant risk of death by goring.
He's trying to say the opposite because he's moronic and doesn't understand what he's actually saying.
Our greatest asset is the human brain
...or at least it used to be...
Our greatest asset is big black ass and big black wiener
so why aren't you doing brain curls 5x5
This homie just lakes about in captivity all day eating meat and he has arms like that. Kill me it's ogre
just like convicts. I don't know bros I think it's time to CAGEMAXXX
Convicts are fraud homosexuals who smuggle steroids inside their gaping asses
Even tigers in captivity don’t have the same 1RM OHP capabilities as wild tigers due to microplastics in their foods.
Someone post that hairless captive chimp with the huge nuts
you rang?
*posts pic of self*
>The lowest born manlet with terrible genetics and zero reproductive
If men were as picky as women with choosing their partners everyone would be a chad.
human beings' predatory advantage is superior endurance. we can't outrun most prey but we continue chasing until eventually we catch them through attrition.
excess muscle mass only helps in short term running like sprints, and not even enough to justify too much of it, body builders aren't outrunning usain bolt.
plus your body has to feed this muscle tissue somehow and it negatively effects your ability to keep up a pace. even if you're pure muscle and extremely lean, it's still negatively affecting your endurance running to have too much. look at endurance runner's physiques, they can't afford to put on too much muscle. even david goggins, a notoriously muscled distance runner, is actually not very jacked, he's just very low bf%.
>claims peak human form is scrawny east African marathon runner
>posts a big muscular American Black person
are you illiterate? david goggins was posted specifically as the exception to the rule
*Coom for the umptieth time today*
STAY HARD MY BIGGER
>humans were le persistent hunters
deboonked millions of times, except for one african tribe, humans used tools and traps to hunt mostly
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/508695
not debunked, just debate.
Source?
https://www.popsci.com/persistence-hunting-myth/
It uses a modern horse race to justify it. The point is that the humans were smart enough to get a blow onto the animal and then be able to track it through blood or the fact that it's wounded and slow, the premise that it's a myth isn't very solid.
It's true we used our brains, but we do not have the body to take down these beasts, the smart thing would be to wound it because trapping it or herding it would likely back it into a corner and cost lives, the reasonable thing to do is figure out a weapon good enough to wound it and then track it as it ran, it makes much more sense than the theories against this persistence hunting.
They try to compare us to a lion or tiger picking off the oldest or youngest prey, but that doesn't matter when the prey is in its prime and its wounded.
Weren't herd animala hunted sometimes by getting them to stampede into traps?
Yes, more specifically they were often chased off cliffs. In America, these are known as "bison jumps" and were very common before the horse was reintroduced to the Great Plains by Europeans.
>it makes much more sense than the theories against this persistence hunting.
How about that there's only a tiny handful of populations known for persistence hunting and literally 99% of humanity throughout history hunted differently?
I addressed that in my post, if you would read it.
Their evidence that they didn't persistence hunt is that fact that the butchered animals were in their prime, not old or young animals. They then compared that to how predators like lions and tigers hunt. They then raise the issue of proper tracking. What they gloss over is the fact that the human mind and body is capable of fashioning and using weapons to wound animals in their prime and then they are slower and perhaps bleeding and thus easier to track.
It's insane how moronicly simple this is to debunk with even a modicum of reasoning and then you have morons like this
just reading the headline and not actually reading the article, or just reading the article and using their confirmation bias when the reasoning is very easily refuted.
Posting black men isn't fair though, everybody knows they're just physically superior to everyone else.
By what measure though, cuck?
Daily reminder it's the same 3" shill
Also we made traps and just slaughtered animals to our hearts' content
go back
No PLEASE
>human beings' predatory advantage is superior endurance. we can't outrun most prey but we continue chasing until eventually we catch them through attrition.
FRICK OFF.
>Chase prey
>End up chasing into into another predators territory
What then?
Kill and eat the predator, too.
because large muscles make you a worde persistence hunter and also take up too much energy which is needed for our abnormally large brain
any more moronic questions?
Difficult? The frick are you talking about? It is the easiest shit ever.
Most animals also move their bodies and use their muscles all day for their entire lives.
If you did the same you'd be ripped too.
So, the answer is, and has always been, consistency with periodic bouts of extreme muscular exertion.
High intensity training.
Infrequent intense exercise (sprints and wrestling buffalos or other big animals).
Followed by long rest periods until next attempt to kill buffalo, also napping most of the day or active rest days spent walking around with their 4-500 pound bodies, or play fighting with occasionally real fights against rival males or predators.
High protein intake followed by fasting keep them lean.
So you're telling me agrarian society and it's consequences have been a disaster for human gains?
Man, this lion is so fricking adorable in this pic holy shit. Oh god I love animals I love Plants I love this oh so beautiful world. I thank god everyday that he put us on this beautiful world full of plenty. I will now hug my dogs and give my parents a call.
tfw the shrooms hit
The only thing I'm high on is life, Black person
>hippy dippy shite
>muh masculine tradchad
pick a side nobody respects a fence sitter
Black person, what are you on about? I'm just glad I live in this beautiful world full if Sunshine and Meat. And I'm grateful for God's gift to us all. What's fence sitting about it?
Westoids are so mislead by ideology they actually think you need to be doing drugs to be spiritual, disregarding the fact that humans have been spiritual for all of history until, in their very specific geographic extent, and for only a part of their population, and only as of very recently, they turned to false idols, and as expected, convinced themselves they're righteous.
For the love of god, shut the frick up.
HE UNDERSTANDS!!
LIFE IS TROUBLE!
COMPASSION WILL SAVE THE WORLD!
>he
Black person I'm female
dial8
Coconut Head if he king.
I think it's due to our cursed being, while we are blessed with knowledge, we are at the same time cursed with weakness. Such is the price.
The smartest animals can at best match a teenager's mind, the human brain doesn't stop developing until at least 25 and can be improved throughout the majority of life until seniority and eventual decay.
It's also just a function that we are meant to grow, spiritually, intellectually, and therefore also in body, you must train body, mind and soul to become a worthy human being.
Unless you're a science homosexual, in which case go frick yourself.
>Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals?
Why is it so difficult for animals to gain brains compared to most humans?
its due to dysgenics
moron
nice fricking 2017 youtube comment format you little shitstain moron
Humans unironically are the one species that put almost all of their talent points into INT and a few into DEX
Hey, the strat worked.
>Nobody:
>Absolutely no one:
>The lowest born manlet with terrible genetics and zero reproductive valie:
>>if da israelites didn't invent microplastics I'd be gigachad
>
>Or maybe you're just genetically inferior.
GO BACK REDDIT homosexual
It is not difficult for Blacks to build muscle
Black training program: enter gym, look at weights, leave the gym for McDonald's, have sex all day, don't get fat until you're 30 and done banging every girl in highschool
Buckbreaker's Mandingo Breeding Program
>reddit spacing
The real answer is myostatin OP
muscle requires more calories
War amongst man is as old as time. War wipes out the strongest men. I believe that thousands of years ago we were vastly stronger and larger than the average human today but the evil forces of this world are constantly culling the cream of the crop throughout all of history.
no, the stupid bipedal ape started living mostly on grains and shit and shrunk down in size severely
The average Joe also worked backbreaking labor from childhood which made them have massive tendons
War would absolutely be an evolutionary pressure in the opposite way moron. Animals that fight each other constantly are not gigantic by mistake, look at elephant seals for example, the males are like 6 times bigger than the females because they fight their whole life for beach space.
We are optimized differently. Tigers are built for brief explosive exertions and short, solitary lives commanded by a short list of instincts. Humans are built for long endurance and long, cooperative lives with a long list of collected skills.
Inbred sand Black person israelite parasite detected. Fluoride and propaganda disprove the conflation of social darwinism with genetic worth. Creatures like you poison gigachad in the cradle and bombard him with messages about being feminine and submissive to authority. Pogroms again soon.
Our muscle was replaced with being able to grip a heavy ass club and using it to beat the shit outta things
It's because animal biology is not exactly the same as human biology. Lower levels of Myostatin and higher test levels = More muscle.
Anyone giving you a different answer is just wrong. Chimps swinging in trees all day or whatever certainly does make a difference but chimps also have testicles the size of tennis balls.
The actual reason is that strength and dexterity are opposite ends of a sliding scale, for all practical purposes. Physiologically, it takes a lot of energy to rein in musculature that can pop a man's head off his shoulders with a swipe, if you want it to also be able to build small tools and pick through stuff for foraging purposes. Cats are agile while moving their whole body, but clumsy when batting stuff around with their paws. You stay away from tigers because they can frick you up even while trying to be friendly with you.
Much of an animal's strength comes down to where muscles attach to bone. You either put it in one place and have massive leverage, or you put it in another and have fine control.
Correct answer
based neoboomer
wouldn't it make more sense to have them built in? A tiger that is as smart as a human is better than a human. Thankyou for disproving evolution for me
I was gonna write a srs response to this, but nah, ydy.
>A tiger that is as smart as a human is better than a human
A tiger that is as smart as a human has zero need for human intelligence. If humans could survive winter without clothes or tools or fire and could easily kill with our bare hands and teeth without teamwork we would probably have intelligence comparable to tigers.
Not really.
Because most humans do not listen to DEATH GRIPS
Most animals can't gain muscle, they grow up and they have a set amount of muscle that no amount of working out can change, humans are extraordinarily mutable.
Also we are decently strong for our size. Definitely stronger pound for pound then many similarly sized animals like wolves or deer.
if you want a real reason and not bait. It comes down to neuron motors in the muscles. They're very developed compared to other animals and the cost of it is bunches of muscle fibers tend to be a lot slimmer.
Why dont we gave self-cleaning buttholes like dogs do?
>Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals?
Because we don't live the way our ancestors did. They had no trouble gaining and maintaining muscle as long as food was plenty. All those things you do for "exercise" like lifting and moving heavy things, running, sprinting, etc were just daily parts of our ancestors' lives and not something they had to think about or make time to do. Live like that and you won't have trouble gaining and maintaining muscle, either.
you're moronic
Why?
Humans naturally are already quite strong, however in the wild humans will hunt using tools and just out smarting animals, Humans naturally are quite skinny, relatively lean, the focus is on the brain however.
Also, Orangutans exist, they have the burgerland build.
>relatively lean
We have more fat than chimps or gorillas
Tigers are so badass they could suck you dry and there's nothing you can do to stop them. Look at this beast. Unbelievable.
I could beat the shit out of a tiger
>rear naked choke
Nothing personnel, felid
Because it's essentially a waste of energy and too hard on the heart when compared to the brain. Being smart enough to develop language and having fine motor movement to build weapons is way more effective for survival than claws or any amount of muscle mass. There is also the fact that modern goyslop-based diet sucks, but even then, humans are generally not supposed to look like bodybuilders.
>Why is it so difficult for humans to gain muscle compared to most animals?
Humans excel in tool building and abstract thinking. We can be amazing athletes, but our athletic prowess pales in comparison to what we can build including religions, social contracts, societies, cities, civilizations, tools for war, tools for environmental manipulation, etc.
Just my two cents but you, in the general sense, should focus far more on being an excellent tool builder in whatever endeavor you pursue more than being physically fit.
Don't cringe but really think about it, you won't ever have the physical ability to fly, punch through people or run faster than a bullet, but you could potentially build tools that would allow you to do so.
tl;dr Humans sacrificed physical prowess for our absolutely ridiculous brain capacity which allowed us to mog every other living being on this planet. Consider focusing more on brain gains.
homosexual Neanderthalensis were tanky human builds that individually could outcompete modern humans in pretty much every Olympic sport. homosexual sapiens spec'd more into intelligence, endurance, and dex and their group tactics made them way more fit than the Neanderthals, fit in the Darwinian sense. Sapiens cost less calories, but they sacrifice the gains of the Neanderthals.
Imagine if Neanderthals survived long enough to unlock agriculture though.
>homosexual sapiens spec'd more into intelligence, endurance, and dex
absolutely baseless claim
how the frick would one even assess Neanderthal endurance
only thing we know for sure is that h.sapiens were able to procreate much faster than them and sapienses hand is a bit more suitable for operating with small tools
Looks like a Filipino or low grade mesoamerican mestizo
No one's tried strength training OR roiding a gorilla yet, as far as I'm aware.
Definitely something for the next generation of mad scientists funded by desperately competitive states
jfc could you imagine a roided chimp or gorilla. That's definitely mad scientist territory
What about a Liger? Use roided up ligers to flush out jungle guerilla types.
because humans are evolving with undesirable genetics thanks to the fact that humans can breed each other regardless of their ability to survive in an environment that requires good genetics.
being muscular from going to the gym doesn't change the genetics of your offspring either, so "womyn fricking hot guys" isn't going to do shit for future generations, unless we commit to selective breeding.
>unless we commit to selective breeding.
why? from here out we just need to churn out fat blobs that play with phones and do whatever their govt says, and we basically got that. People adjust to the environment, that's inevitable, and the environment is more comfortable than anything the earth has seen to date, so we're gonna see some cozy lookin humans.
Human bodies are optimized for energy efficiency to support big brains, so any unused muscle shrinks rapidly.
Imagine needing to play down the severity of concerns with microplastics by strawmanning it with da joos.
Protein goes to brain, not to muscles. There's a reason they call it "moron strength".
Just eat like him, bro.
humans are naturally type 1 fiber dominant, we are made to use our brains to wound and then track our prey and out walk them.
We we're meant for large bursts of energy like an ambush predator like a tiger is. The tiger needs large type 2 fibers to hold onto and kill prey.
There's a reason humans tend to excel in endurance sports and most sports are endurance sports, it's only genetic freaks that do the large strength sports.
I'm not sure why, but that seem kinda moronic.
type 2 fibers have the most capacity for growth. Take that tiger for example, that shoulder is highly type 2 dominant, type 1 fibers do not have capacity for growth. It's very simple physiology.
We are much better at controlling our fatigue than a tiger is, a tiger has enough power for a short burst of energy and then it's spent. Humans and other type 1 dominant creatures, while they cannot hope to even come close to matching the raw power of a tiger, we have the ability to manage fatigue with our musculature and oxygen, rather than the quickly depleting glycogen which is used in short bursts of power
There is really no such thing as dysgenics or eugenics because every gene has a function. Saying strength is good genes is folly because there are negative aspects to allocating tons of resources for strength. We don't feel these negative sides to it in the modern world because we have tons of fresh, healthy foods and proteins at all times. If you had elite strength-building genes in the wild, you would be living a risky life.
Similarly for people who think height and frame mean "good genes", just look at monkeys, how successful they are, how nimble and agile they are. They are much more successful and not a lot of monkey species are at risk of extinction, unlike the apes which are a bigger than them, where every ape is at risk of inbreeding or extinction.
Humans are really obsessed with ranking and rating and putting down others every day. In fact a lot of the times another person or we could even bring it into a discussion on movies or games let's say - is just different, it's not different good or bad, it's just different. For SOME people at some point in their life, the movie might be just what they liked or what they needed. Same with genes. Fallacious to ever say better or worse genes, other than genes that cause horrific diseases or something, something has gone very wrong with those genes, not normal every day genes.
People love certain aesthetics which transfer value.
Human brain uses too much of our caloric intake, muscle doesn't really serve any real purpose as we have become more dependent on technology. Also lower muscle density as we evolved to use fine motor skills. Animals muscles fire at a much higher rate than humans since they use their body as their tool for their survival, whereas we don't. Even natives in the amazon are dependent on tools and don't live like animals
Some races still do…
being a ripped dog is the best way to get girls. they find u cute and hot at the same time
I'm just mad we never were able to develop some redundant organ systems. Im an EMT and from what I see having some kind of low grade secondary method of blood circulation would be the biggest improvement. I'm not talking another heart but a series of smaller vein beds and arteries throughout the body that are slightly beefier/have more smooth muscle in them to pump blood or even cut the flow to prevent bleed out. Kinda like a modified earthworm system with pseudo hearts. It would reduce the problems associated with heart failure and definitely improve athletic ability by keeping blood flow more constant.
It's not hard for us if we grow up that way. It is incredibly hard past puberty.
Myostatin. That's literally it.
We must destroy this "Myostatin" fella.
Imagine if every chick was built like THIS!
We don't need it.
Ancient humans relied on tools and long distance running until the prey gets exhausted. A tiger relies on ambush and quickly dispatching it's prey.
Humans are the best long distance runners compared to any animal even horses. Our feet and ability to sweat makes us be the best. Other animals can't sweat.
Being lean and muscular as nature intended for humans looks better anyways.
Tiger is my fren 🙂
Because animals dont jerk off, they do natural sexual abstinence still mating season
Did you know that masturbation hinder your gains and porn will frick your brain up? Plus sexual abstinence has some pretty unbeliveable benefits:
https://imgur.io/gallery/g4eGH
Here are some studies:
Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levelshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-beinghttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883
Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart diseasehttps://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/spermidine-rich-foods-may-prevent-liver-cancer-extend-lifespan/
Men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancerhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x
Masturbation decreases dopamine levelshttps://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/
Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortexhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addictionhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
Making sperm shortens lifespan of male wormshttps://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html
jerking off 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949
Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantlyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706
Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf
Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issueshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603/
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walk on your four whole life and you will also have big arms