Why is it so difficult for Normies to lose weight?

Literally, most of them will struggle with the most ridiculous diets, in some cases for literally YEARS and get no results

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically it takes a schizotypal mind required to distrust the deliberate misinformation the government has put out since the 1950s.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The alternative is bandwagoning ("keto" where normies eat keto marketed chocolate bars every 3 hours) or vegaynism

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.reddit.com/r/veganketo/

        u can be vegan and keto. veganism is just not using/buying animal products because you believe animals shouldn't suffer by the hands of humans.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take your religion somewhere else nobody cares

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be pig living life on a farm in a symbiotic relationship with humans
        >vegoons try to genocide you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vegaynism

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The alternative is bandwagoning
        I often listen to my podcasts and enjoy the fact that they talk schizo level about COVID-19. If you know that scientist were bought to say cholesterol is causing heart decease, the guy who said sugar is the culprit got his career ruined etc of course you look at everything the government does with distrust. But not if you're just on the bandwagon then you order a box of fasting bars so you can fast while eating.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because all the mainstream advice is wrong and half the guidelines are based on a whole lot of nothing.

      I was relatively normal in this regard until I got a nutrition degree, then I dug deeper than my coursework and saw how rotten the foundation of the entire discipline is. Turns out most of science is like that to varying degrees. Much like representative government, the scientific system has been hijacked by a duopoly of corruption and pseudo-religious loonies and the whole enterprise is so compromised that it begs the question if the entire venture was flawed from the start.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me more. I'd like to hear some examples of the rotten foundation

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Late reply, but something like a third of RDAs are literally Texas sharpshooter fallacy. They surveyed the public, estimated what the average intake was, and made that the RDA. No exaggeration. Almost all RDAs are also based off epidemiology, there are only a few based off randomized controlled trials.
          While we're at it, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics was founded by vegetarians, and to this day there are more veg*ns on the highest board proportionally than there are garden gnomes in the Senate. Seventh Day Adventists are a prime mover on nutrition committees, just look it up, their names and affiliations (and addresses?) are public record. The whole thing was honked from the start. I had to deny patients with chronic kidney failure foods with protein, phosphorus, and potassium despite there being no hard evidence it harms the kidneys. I had to allow diabetic patients with sky high blood sugar up to 280g of carbohydrates (including all sneaky extras, which regulars knew about) because it was part of the carb control diet. Being a clinical dietitian is shite.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Unironically it takes a schizotypal mind required to distrust the deliberate misinformation the government has put out since the 1950s.
      Did you just equate "schizotypical" (ie. "normal") with "schizophrenic"?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He wrote schizotypal not schizotypical
        Doesn’t matter anyway because they’re both low quality pseudowords

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally this. you have to actively assume you are being poisoned on a colossal level, literally flooded by artificial estrogenic substances, and that the hormonal balance of the "normal" person is fucked. too much for a normie to take.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Peat is a wandering corpse, it should make you suHispanicious of his diet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not wrong in a way. 70's fat scare caused obesity epidemic. Diet/food pyramid became political. Low fat meant corps added sugar and sweetener to everything. Republicunts subsidies for high fructose corn syrup made shitty food cheaper than healthy food. Combine that with the insane rise of fast food and junk food popularity and here we are.
      If you even suggest regulation fatties and their apologists will screech about muh freedumbs. Even on IST these types show up defending junk food and posting about soda.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not wrong in a way. 70's fat scare caused obesity epidemic. Diet/food pyramid became political.

        Yup this is exactly right. The sugar industry paid Harvard scientists in the 1960s to play down risks of sugar and instead emphasize the danger of fat.
        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180215141755.htm

        Food companies love to pay for research.
        https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid-research-heart-disease-jama-report

        People are fat as fuck because the bros that are supposed to protecting them would rather get paid.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >70's fat scare caused obesity epidemic.
        always shifting the blame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kind of this, I don't think "schizotypical" is the right word but nutrition education in the USA is fucking horrible. I grew up thinking this shitty ass pyramid that encourages you to get fat as hell off of refined carbs was accurate. I have a good feeling Kellog's paid heavily to get this food pyramid to claim cereal of all things is part of a balanced diet. USA gym class was also horrible and didn't help people learn nutrition, it basically served as a way for the people who were already in shape to flex on everyone else. Whoever invented standardized fitness tests should be shot, expecting all kids to do a certain amount of pushups when half the country is too fat to do a single pushup is nonsense and isn't helping anyone.

      The unfortunate reality also is that your health when you're younger is nearly entirely determined by your parents since they decide your food intake growing up. Fit parents raise kids with healthy habits and fat parents raise kids with unhealthy habits. Once you have unhealthy habits they're very difficult to break, especially when you have no basis for what healthy habits look like in the first place.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The unfortunate reality also is that your health when you're younger is nearly entirely determined by your parents since they decide your food intake growing up.
        The public schools make that decision too. I work at a middle school and am disgusted by what the students are given to eat. Cardboard-like frozen pizza, burgers that look like they were scraped from the bottom of a trash can, and every Friday they give out pop tarts for breakfast -- no joke. I don't know how they can do this in good conscience. Most of the kids are fat of course. Another reason to never send your children to public school.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        underrated post

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My retarded fat mother unironically believed that you could eat unlimited amounts of rice and pasta as long as you used a low fat sauce on it.

        As little kids in my family we were stuffed with carbs and given coke and donuts to keep us occupied so we stood no chance

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or good pattern recognition skills and a distrust of “authority”

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Insanely based fpbp
      Eat as natural as possible, the more your ancestors ate it the better. Food today is industrial garbage tier.
      If the recipe is younger than 100 years there is no reason for it to be on your plate.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because having the autism to overcome animal instincts is a rare trait.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The truth is that the inmense majority of people have NO CLUE what a caloric deficit or a caloric surplus are, and they don't know how to count calories

    Once you know those three easy things, with a little bit of DISCIPLINE you can achieve your goals extremely fast

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

      Back to r/loseit, midwit. IST is a FASTCHAD board now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actually I'm a FAST-cunt as well, but for some reasons most normies are afraid of fasting. They think they will starve to death or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment
        > Semi-Starvation Period (24 weeks until July 28, 1945): During the 6-month semi-starvation period, each subject's dietary intake was immediately cut in half to about 1,560 calories per day.
        > 1560 calories per day
        > """starving"""

        what the fuck. i'm eating 1300 calories a day on my cut and that's with burning 400 every morning while running. i'm sure as fuck not "starving"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The problem with that experiment is they were basically cut down to eating just carbs, if you only eat ~1,500 calories of potatoes bread and macaroni for weeks on end, yeah you're going to be fucked up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The first rehabilitative stage was restricted by eating 2,000-3,000 calories a day
          What the fuck? You occasionally get people on IST asking for help on how they could even eat that much. 3k is bulking level for 99% of people. Did they use different caloric content measures back then or something?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is from 1944, a time where most people had extremely active lives. They were assigned exercise and "work" which almost certainly meant physical labor, not sitting on their asses typing on a computer.

            >The 12-month clinical study was performed at the University of Minnesota[where?] between November 19, 1944 and December 20, 1945. Throughout the duration of the study each man was assigned specific work tasks, was expected to walk 22 miles (35 km) each week and required to keep a personal diary. You can eat 3,000 calories if you're doing a physical labor job and walking 3 miles per day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah. I’m 210 and work construction. With fucking Mexicans. My maintenance is around 2400.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dude, like fucking no way bro

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t.drives to his construction and then operates machinery and hand tools
                No fucking way anon. "working construction" doesn't guarantee you're burning enough calories.
                I sit still at work and I'm under 12%BF whilst eating 2800-3300 kcals a day. Besides the gym I cycle to work and walk the dog. Not exactly an excruciating amount of activity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one subject, Sam Legg, amputated three fingers of his hand with an axe, though the subject was unsure if he had done so intentionally or accidentally
        Do deficitfags really

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people have no fucking clue how many calories they should be consuming daily. You got 5'2 women eating 3000 calories a day and wondering why they look like balloons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is also true, I didn't understand nutrition at all even halfway into my 20s, it's just not something people are taught, you have to go out of your way to figure it out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when I was in High School, we had a class in our natural sciences (basically biology, chemistry) where our teacher logged us onto a calorie counting, meal planning program and asked us to input our day of eating.
        She went through it with us, and then looked at our results. I did actually pretty good, she seemed impressed, asked if that was really what I ate.
        But maybe it was because I went to a catholic private school that actually cared about its students. They still planned a class trip to Auschwitz so they might have been infiltrated too. I don't know. Still we had a class about nutrition, which means some of them tried.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >which means some of them tried
          there should be hard limit on bmi for md's and nutritionists and if one fails generous weigh in every month one looses loicense

          if i were an king there would be no discussion about it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            truth is most people think of food as something private and intimate and emotional - they hear caloric and they think direct insult on their person

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lower-case letter at the start of the sentence
            >No "a" before "hard limit"
            >"bmi" instead of "BMI"
            >"md's" instead of "MDs"
            >No comma after "fails"
            >No "a" before "weigh in"
            >No hyphen in "weigh in"
            >No comma after "month"
            >"Looses" instead of "loses"
            >Lower-case letter at the start of the sentence
            Even if these things were fixed, the first sentence would be too long

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It got to him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The average IQ is 100(or so ~~*they*~~ say), that means that 50% of the people you see are functionally retarded unironically.
      and in

      They underestimate how many calories they consume. Like they might skip their 200 calorie coffee drink, 200 calorie snacks etc. so they end up with 500-1000 calories above that what they think they ate. It's also very common nowadays to order food home or from drive-thru so it's difficult to know how many calories you get from that. Even a small meal (burger, fries and soda) will be ~1000 calories because it's drenched in vegetables oils.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can't stop lying

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People eating 3 meals a day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fat
      >muh genetics
      >The "muh thermodynamics" crowd is retarded.
      kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fucking cancer phone, meant to reply to

        https://i.imgur.com/CvzCpOa.png

        as somebody who was a fat cunt in highschool there is definately something to genetics and or some people not losing fat the same way other people do. The "muh thermodynamics" crowd is retarded. A guy who is skinny and starts the gym is going to have astronomically more success in the gym than a fat person. So their stories of success mean absolutely nothing.

        I counted calories , went 5 days a week ect. And managed to lose like 60lbs in the course of like 9 months

        I still looked like shit at 150lbs and it was completely demoralizing and i stopped

        I can imagine for some people , just getting the scale to move is hard like it was for me , but to reach the relative end to your journey (weight wise) and still look nowhere near sexually attractive is a gut punch most cant recover from

        im now 32 and hovering near where i was in highschool.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as somebody who was a fat cunt in highschool there is definately something to genetics and or some people not losing fat the same way other people do. The "muh thermodynamics" crowd is retarded. A guy who is skinny and starts the gym is going to have astronomically more success in the gym than a fat person. So their stories of success mean absolutely nothing.

    I counted calories , went 5 days a week ect. And managed to lose like 60lbs in the course of like 9 months

    I still looked like shit at 150lbs and it was completely demoralizing and i stopped

    I can imagine for some people , just getting the scale to move is hard like it was for me , but to reach the relative end to your journey (weight wise) and still look nowhere near sexually attractive is a gut punch most cant recover from

    im now 32 and hovering near where i was in highschool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck you. I was thin as a rail my whole life (6', 120 lbs when I graduated high school). I had to work my ass off in the gym for a decade just to gain 40 lbs of muscle to be where I am now and I'm still relatively thin.

      It's infinitely easier for a fat person to lose weight than for a skinny person to gain weight, fat people struggle because they refuse to change their lifestyle and quit when things get tough.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        skinny gays talking about working hard lol I spit in your fucking face you gay loser

        >diet is eat something
        >workout program is literally just go

        vs

        >dont eat too much or your will get fat
        >dont eat too little or you will lose muscle mass
        >make sure you get enough protein to offset your deficit
        >Make sure you update your calorie profile as you lose weight or you will stall

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gain weight: eat tons of food when you're not hungry, make your stomach feel like shit, always constantly have to remind yourself that you need to squeeze in an extra meal, having to find specific recipes that are extremely high calorie that will be easy for you to eat.
          >Lose weight: literally just stop eating
          One of these requires more effort, and it's pretty obvious which one.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just stop eating
            >metabolism stalls and it doesnt work
            >muscle is cannibalized instead of fat

            lol
            lmao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              muscle is cannibalized at a slower rate than fat is. that's why cut cycles work anon.
              also you could just eat at maintenance forever.
              you won't look super cut, but you won't be fat by any means.
              the more you know newfag.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >slower rate

                It doesnt matter if you have barely any muscle in the first place and tons of fat

                What do you think skinnyfat is and why there are so few people walking around cut up?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >workout
                >eat at maintenance
                >not skinny fat
                >not fat
                >just not incredibly low body fat
                wow it's almost like it's that easy, been doing it for fucking 15 years dumbass.
                there is zero reason to ever bulk or cut.
                literally adjust calories to match tdee.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your fault for getting fat in the first place. No self control. Sorry you don't get the body type you wanted at the end of your weight loss. That's a whole second step. But at the end of the day, eating is more effort than not eating. Simple as.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >its your fault for getting fat
                Really great emotional support system when your shit gets refuted lololol

                >no self control
                I self controlled myself from 220 to 150lbs and all i got was disgusting slob in the mirror

                >eating is more effort than not eating
                hilarious fucking lie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I self controlled myself from 220 to 150lbs and all i got was disgusting slob in the mirror
                Literally ignored the most important part of what I said. Getting the body type you want comes after losing weight. It's not a part of losing weight.
                >hilarious fucking lie
                Yeah okay buddy. Gathering materials, cooking, cleaning up after yourself, then eating. That's what It takes to eat a meal. Here's what it takes to not eat a meal:

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol you fatties expect to come out of your weightloss fucking shredded, good luck with that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "You expect to get shredded"

                Not really , even back then i knew how much work it would take to look like that

                I just thought just maybe after working my ass off for a year and raping myself daily in the gym and putting in maximum effort i could MAYBE see my abdominal muscles once in my life

                Turns out that isnt the case and on top of the crushing hard work and non stop tracking of your food you also have to make sure you are getting a metric fuckton of protein so your body doesnt eat itself alive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1 pound of lean chicken breast has 144 grams of protein, which if you’re at 150 lbs is almost your total protein goal of the day. Totally doable if you spread it out

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          LITERALLY STOP FUCKING EATING YOU FAT FUCKING gay HOLY SHIT HOW HARD IS THAT

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's actually hard to overeat when your brain is not being boiled from the inside out by goyslop
          try feeding a satiated man a second serving of risotto or ossobuco and they will fucking throw up

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Instead of updating my calorie profile I just ate at maintenance of my goal weight, was hard at first but worked like a charm.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >
          It's a shame his metabolism didn't stop like yours during this famine you fat fuck. Thermodynamics is real retard.

          Do you think if you were stuck on a desert island with no food you would stay the same size?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think his body, at that point of starvatio n would consume the same amount of calories as when he was healthy? I reckon his normal caloric intake at that age would be just under 2000, while he is probably burning less than half that in pic related. That should be obvious right? When the body is consuming itself it slows down all function in order to delay death. I've had a bmr of 2000calories at 200lbs, and also of 4000 calories at the same weight. Whether someone who eats 3000 calories a day will be fat or not is primarily a metabolic issue. CICO often cause fatties to slow their metabolism to a crawl, where they are losing weight very slowly, and are also depressed and sluggish.
            Not anon btw.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's infinitely easier for a fat person to lose weight than for a skinny person to gain weight
        lol no it's fucking not. It's indefinitely harder to lose weight, hunger on my mind all day, and then you have loose skin as a former fat, just a sloppy mess at the end. All you have to do is eat more which is a joke, drink a carton of cream dumb fuck lmao?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          genocide all hard gainers

          I literally will rape a hard gainer skinnyfag and force feed them doritos

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fucking hate skinny twigs with the bottom of my being.. y'all will never know the pain of being fat. Fuck you bitch

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's infinitely easier for a fat person to lose weight than for a skinny person to gain weight

        "Eating is soooooo hard, i just can't get enough calories guuuuys"

        Bitch please. How much do you suck in life that you can't gain weight?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and how much do you suck in life that you literally cant just stop eating so fucking much if youre a fatass?
          "eating less is soo hard guys i just miss the taste of all that food guuuuys." moron i have infinitely more respect for a skelly that learns how to cook and shop for good food, and how to sit down and go from eating like a small child to 3000+ calories a day for months to get their weight up in a clean manner. all fatties need to do is just need to slow their roll but somehow theyd have you think thats more difficult kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The "muh thermodynamics" crowd is retarded
      t. retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you EAT MORE than you can BURN you will get FAT. Why is it so difficult to understand?

      The less you eat the faster you burn fat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only works if youre avoiding obesigenic foods other wise you tank your TDEE and decrease muscle protein synthesis

        carbs are usually way too high in cutting diets

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, there are people who are naturally thin. But no, there aren't people who are naturally fat and can't easily lose weight. Why? Because the human body is a thermodynamic process, like a gas engine. It's possible to make a thermodynamic process infinitely inefficient. I could easily make an engine that is only 1% fuel efficient and wastes everything else as heat. But it's not possible to make an infinitely efficient engine - anything above 30% fuel efficiency is pretty much impossible for a gas engine.
      Same applies to people. There are people who have genes that make them burn much more calories than the average person because that's just making them less efficient. But there are no genes that make someone burn less than ~80% of the calories of the average person of the same height, weight etc., because it's impossible to maintain vital functions at this point, even when optimizing to the best possible efficiency.

      So everybody can effectively lose weight by counting calories. It's just physics. If you don't believe that, you just have to look at photos from a mere 50 years ago, when the vast majority of people was thin by modern standards.

      What does vary a lot due to genetics is appetite, but that is entirely a matter of self discipline. Nobody forces you to stuff yourself with food, fatty.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >matter of self discapline
        >most primal instinct that exists and essential for survival

        lol "just go to bed with your body telling you its starving lol just about discapline"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is you over-exaggerating or having a weak fucking mind.

          Seriously fucking try to do what you are told. Want to know why? Because THE FUCKING MCDONALDS YOU HAD FOR LUNCH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH THAT YOU WILL NOT DIE IN YOUR SLEEP FOR SKIPPING DINNER.

          It really is that fucking easy. You will not magically starve and die in your sleep. The fact that you describe it as such - only shows how weak you are in the head.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >its really that fucking easy

            actually no , when your body says its dying and needs to be fed its quite a bit more than "self discapline" to plow through that and go to fucking sleep

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              When your body is telling you “it is dying” that is your realizing how fucking addicted you are to eating. Do you not understand this?

              When the crackhead describes himself as “dying” when you take away his drugs. Is he actually dying? Or the weakness of his dependent mind makes him feel agony?

              Fucking just TRY. My guy. You eat lunch EVERY. DAY. At fucking 12 right?

              Just TRY not eating lunch. Eat around 2pm or 3pm. And notice you were never fucking dying. You are an animal of habit - and your bad habits that you are addicted to control what you do every day. Like a weak crack addict

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                me understanding something isnt related in any way to what my body is saying

                Going to bed hungry isnt just hard , for some people its impossible

                >just dont eat lunch

                I really only eat one meal a day and sometimes breakfast

                it doesnt really matter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Weak

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > its quite a bit more than "self discapline"
              like what exactly?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It’s really not. Not even him, but I literally used to starve myself to make weight for boxing for around 2 weeks every time because I would rather not eat if I couldn’t eat delicious processed garbage. No, not a a calorie deficit. Literally starving. Water exclusively and zero supplements because I was young and dumb. Not only did I keep up the same training, I also added at least 5 miles every day to it. The longest recorded water fast is over a year long. It’s just hunger. Stop making it seem like some supernatural compelling force just because of your own personal failings. You simply didn’t want it bad enough.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wow 2 weeks

                is that a long time for this "self discipline" i have been hearing about?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you the lardass complaining about how you can't go a day without eating?
                Why are you being such a condescending prick when his 2 weeks proves that your inability to not stuff your maw for a DAY is you being a moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because 2 weeks is not comparable to the time needed to actually lose bodyfat

                Some athlete talking about dropping weight for a fight is fucking offensive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok dude, then just be a tub of shit forever
                This is like a group of friends arguing with their alcoholic buddy from high school about how he doesn't need to drink a pint of vodka a day.
                You clearly don't want a constructive answer because you've already decided that it's impossible for you, so any advice you get has to be smugly shot down
                Go fuck yourself, you fatalistic mayo golem

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                stop worrying about all the muscle you allegedly have underneath that fat, and just lose the fat. You sound like a fat person making excuses right now. This thread is filled with people who have lost weight, and told you that what you're saying is horseshit, but you dig your heels in and ignore them as if you have a better idea of what's going on.
                also
                >so much reddit spacing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stop worrying about all that muscle underneath the fat

                bro can you not comprehend what 5 days in the gym for 9 months only to hit 150lbs and not have any definition in your chest or stomach

                none?
                why cant you comprehend that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Step 1 lose weight.
                Step 2 build muscle. Been trying to get you to comprehend that for a while but you can't seem to figure it out. Since you've lost the weight, start gaining the muscle not bitching about how you couldn't do both at the same time. Jesus christ man, I'm done. You won't listen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're telling us you're a moron.
                You didn't readjust your macros, you did not readjust your calorie intake.
                You did not readjust your program and you wonder why you spent 9 months in a gym to hit 150 and look like shit.

                Eat at your fucking TDEE.
                Therefore you are always skinny.
                You want more muscle, increase TDEE slightly.
                If you want to lose weight eat slightly below TDEE.
                fucking dumbass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lift harder or cut harder, but avoid carbs while u cut and eat simple safe carbs while u bulk

                sinple as

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Step 1 lose weight.
                Step 2 build muscle. Been trying to get you to comprehend that for a while but you can't seem to figure it out. Since you've lost the weight, start gaining the muscle not bitching about how you couldn't do both at the same time. Jesus christ man, I'm done. You won't listen.

                >abs are made in the kitchen
                Is a misconception furthered by people who've struggled with overeating and being overweight. Scrawny men, or men who have been unathletic their entire lives, need to build muscle to have fully visible abs even if they get really lean. It's the same reason a lot of skeletors have no abs, they never ate enough food & did enough physical activity to build them in the first place.
                >t. doing weighted planks to build abdominal muscles now after a life of inactivity & malnourishment

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Some athlete talking about dropping weight for a fight is fucking offensive
                It's fucking offensive because a fighter has to starve himself *while* getting off his ass and training cardio for a minimum of several hours a week.
                Do you know how tired and dead you look doing that? Everyone at my gym constantly asked me why I looked like I was half asleep.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You have to go back

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's offensive because it takes SEVERAL MONTHS of a 1000 deficit to lose a decent amount of weight.
                You mus not realize how little 1000 calories of food is, much less keeping it up for months at a time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It takes just as long to lose the weight as it took to gain it. Or actually that's not true, our bodies don't utilize calories to energy with a 1:1 efficiency. If you are on a mathematical 1000 calorie surplus it may only be like 700 calorie surplus in reality. But a 1000 calorie deficit is 1000 calorie deficit.

                So it's actually easier to lose weight than to gain it. The thing that you retards are missing is that to get into your current situation you have been eating FFA for probably a decade if not more and then you want to undo it in couple of months.

                You are just a retard that cannot diet, simple as. Eat REAL FOOD, EAT FUCKING LOTS OF RED MEAT, CHICKEN, FISH, EGGS. Get ~150g of protein from meat and you will feel so fucking full and satiated all the time. I actually had trouble to stop my 6 month diet because it was so fucking easy, simple, comfy and cheap.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you miss the part where one guy did it for a year? I only did two weeks because that’s what I needed to make weight. If it was a month, I could easily still do it. The time is mostly irrelevant. The point was I was ACTUALLY fucking starving and had zero thought ever about giving up. You had a little deficit and you cry like a bitch about not being able to sleep? You act like you’re the only one who’s ever been hungry and we couldn’t possibly understand. I’ve been even more hungry and it was nothing. So yes, that IS the discipline you keep being told about. The will to reach your goal without letting some small discomforts stop you. Stop blaming your body. You’re a weak minded gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You simply didn’t want it bad enough.
                Exactly. A lot of the shit comes down to will power. Every time a see a delicious free donut in the workplace lunchroom glistening and dripping with chocolate and powder, I ask myself, "do I want to eat this donut or do I want women leering at me?"

                The answer is fucking obvious.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you miss the part where one guy did it for a year? I only did two weeks because that’s what I needed to make weight. If it was a month, I could easily still do it. The time is mostly irrelevant. The point was I was ACTUALLY fucking starving and had zero thought ever about giving up. You had a little deficit and you cry like a bitch about not being able to sleep? You act like you’re the only one who’s ever been hungry and we couldn’t possibly understand. I’ve been even more hungry and it was nothing. So yes, that IS the discipline you keep being told about. The will to reach your goal without letting some small discomforts stop you. Stop blaming your body. You’re a weak minded gay

                damn anon I needed that. thanks and screencapped

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks being hungry is equivalent to starving
          jfc fatties are mentally ill

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be fat, hate it
      >learn how to lose weight
      >successfully lose 60 lbs
      >I'm now only 20 lbs away from having the attractive body I've desired my whole life
      >give up for no reason
      >throw away all the progress I worked for
      >stay obese for the remainder of my youth
      >complain complain complain

      I'm disappointed in you, anon, but it's not too late.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >20lbs away

        bro i was 150lbs and looked like certified dogshit. I had not been that light since middle school and i still barely looked any different from when i was in the 200s. My face looked slightly leaner but my body still was a pile of shit

        The reality is my dieting ate my muscle to the bone and the fat was not going away

        Its not fun busting your ass spinning 30 different dieting and training plates just to end up a 150lbs stillfat retard.

        The reality is the science of this stuff is so fucked you have to ask yourself why you are lifting

        Are you fat and lifting to lose weight on a scale? good the science works then

        Are you fat and lifting to look immensely more sexually attractive? Guess what? the science is not even remotely close to good enough for the average normalfag.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's the problem with only counting calories. The only way that's possible is if your macros were complete shit and you kept just cutting calories. Also were you weight training?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes i was busting my ass 5 days a week on a intermediate program i think it was calle phraks or something. I walked out of the gym drenched every day

            It was the macro's , something that was not explained to me in detail because i was too focused on not breaking my TDEE

            I caniballized all my muscle and was basically lifting for exactly 0 reason.

            I cant imagine how many people also do this same fuckup.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I see that makes sense you ran yourself into the ground and didn't consume the right macros. 3 days weight lifting 45min sessions low volume to failure with the right macros would produce different results. Especially combined with cardio on the off days. Steady state cardio to stimulate the metabolism. Slow calorie reduction with mostly protein medium fat and low carbs. Making small changes per week to avoid pleateus. Eg 50 cals less from carbs or fat. Or 5 minutes more of Cardio. Also avoiding saturated fats. That's a vague outline, but trust me it can be done check out this guy on YouTube if you want good information. Bios3training. I've used his material to learn a lot and I've had great results.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its not worth the time or effort. Which is why im shitting up this thread

                People who are fat are sometimes completely fucked hormonally like

                They fall for the habit meme and think paying for a gym so they can do some lightly straining exercises for an hour a week is a good investment and will fix years of sitting in a chair.

                Goyslop fucks up hormones.

                CICO is definitely true, but alot of available food is goyslop and in large quantities, and our bodies are heavily dependent on how our hormones are in the body. This is why people take various rouds and hormone effecting peds. Also why its harder when ur older

                Once ur hormones are fucked its harder to get back. But you need to get back to fix your hormones

                said

                I spent years counting calories and trying to get macros right. Its a balancing act that isnt fun or productive.

                Then you have to meet that effort in the gym and your time to results is going to be 6+ months before you know if you are fucking something up.

                Nutrition science is extremely outdated

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't have patience or drive and that's why nutrition science is outdated
                Ok turbofatty

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've yet to see a single human with low %bf and high muscle mass who looks bad. You can burn fat and keep most of your muscle by 1. weightlifting 2. maintaining a high protein diet and 3. not losing more than 1-2lbs/week. Afterwards you can build even more muscle. The fact is you made tremendous progress toward your goal and then gave up and you have no one to blame but yourself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i made tremendous progress

            no i didnt. I took pounds off a scale and nothing else. None of the work i did produced anything of value , i didnt get stronger and my self esteem was gutted. I didnt even hit 1 plate until i started training with a dude a few years later.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe you need antidepressants unironically. Losing 60lbs should boost your self esteem, you should have felt proud, you should have felt motivated to continue your journey. This is all under the umbrella of willpower though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >anti depressants
                they literally just proved that shit is a giant hoax

                >you should have been proud
                I was until a girl called me fat after losing 60lbs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have lost 250+ pounds and felt nothing because I have to lose 50 more....

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you see the bald ginger beard ripped manlet from reddit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dieting doesnt work. Fast.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I counted calories
      You counted wrong

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lost 60lbs
        >counted wrong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ripped dudes are always right when they spew broscience

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't you keep losing fat?

      You had literally nothing to lose

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re retarded. It’s a question of appetite, not physics. You have some sort of hormonal imbalance or psychological condition. Energy doesn’t choose to stick onto your disgusting fat body.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics

      You fat fucking retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I still looked like shit at 150lbs
      This is exactly what broke me everytime ,seeing such a low weight in the scale and still looking bad,when you are used to weighting a lot as a man weighting that little feels sad,weak,feminine, if I atleast had abs and rippling muscles I could cope but no, all that cardio,calorie restriction,effort to go from obese to a skinny-fat random ass dude with a gut and flabby body.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get 95% of the way there
        >doesn’t finish the last 5%
        >bitches and gives up instead
        How tall are you? Unless you are below 5’5” you have a healthy BMI at 150lbs. You might be skinny fat but 6-12 months of working out would fix that. I can’t understand how you can spend months losing weight then just give up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You seem somewhat low iq and lazy so its likely you had a poor diet and an ineffective exercise program that you never really tried that hard at. Fat people should just be exiled from society tbh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are the whiniest fucking gay I’ve had the displeasure of seeing on here, probably even worse than that moron with man tits. You dropped 60lbs and instead of continuing with what you were doing or even better, looking for ways to make it more effective, you gave up and cemented yourself as a fat fuck for life. Rope. Now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I counted calories , went 5 days a week ect. And managed to lose like 60lbs in the course of like 9 months
      So you dropped over a pound and half a week and somehow you think this is evidence of weight loss NOT being doable?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I counted calories , went 5 days a week ect. And managed to lose like 60lbs in the course of like 9 months
      >I still looked like shit at 150lbs and it was completely demoralizing and i stopped
      Stupid fatty fat fat fucking retard fatty.
      When you started going to the gym you were all fat and fuck all muscle. Whilst training at the gym and eating at a calorie deficit, you grew a little bit of muscle at the same time as losing fat. Because you were such a fat fatty fat fat, there was virtually no discernable change because all your muscle was under your disgusting swollen adipose layer. Because of this slight muscle growth though, your "weight" on the scales wasn't reflective of the true changes, wherein you lost over 90lbs of fat but added at least 10lb of muscle tissue.
      10lbs may not same like much but unless you're well over 6', but it's a solid start.
      You still looked like shit at 150lbs because guess what gay most former sedentary and/or fat people are going to look like shit after only 9 months of a few hours of gym a week vs a lifetime of not moving and using their body the way it has evolved to and eating a disgusting chronic excess. Some people who were terrifically active in their first 18 years of life can really bounce back really fast after ballooning up to 250-300lbs and over 30% bodyfat, but if you weren't in the top 50% of male fitness in your youth through inactivity or poor diet then you are starting with a massive lag in developing healthy lean metabolically powerful muscle tissue/tone in your body.
      You fucked up by getting demoralised because 9 months wasn't enough to turn an absolute disaster of a body and waste of life into something to be proud of. You were on the right track you fat fuck. Pic related now go for a fucking 2 hour nightly walk with an audio book you fat fuck it's time to sweat piggy.
      Drop kik or something if you want 1:1 training or diet ideas.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're a bitch, and I hate you.

      The same exact thing happened to me, down to the fucking weight, dropping from 210 to 150, and I was a skinnyfat DYEL after.

      But I didn't quit. I started lifting, went with SL because I was a noob who didn't know any better, and didn't see physical gains until much MUCH later, and it wasn't a whole lot. Switched to an upper/lower split, did it for two months before a deload week, and retooled my program after literal months of research.

      You're just a fucking pussy. A weak-willed gay who gave up before he even started.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they're lying about their diets, if they were actually committing to consistently eating less calories they would lose the weight. What you're dealing with is someone who binges and then tries to correct that behavior with sporadic periods of cutting down. You don't actually lose weight if you eat more salad for two days and then binge on McDonalds on day 3 all while claiming you're "on a diet". Fats are pathologically liars when it comes to their actions, you cannot trust a thing that they say.

    t. former fat who actually put a minimal amount of consistent effort in and lost the weight

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it so difficult for Normies to lose weight?
    eat 2much

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They underestimate how many calories they consume. Like they might skip their 200 calorie coffee drink, 200 calorie snacks etc. so they end up with 500-1000 calories above that what they think they ate. It's also very common nowadays to order food home or from drive-thru so it's difficult to know how many calories you get from that. Even a small meal (burger, fries and soda) will be ~1000 calories because it's drenched in vegetables oils.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *skip counting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's hard to even forget that nowadays, even at goyslop McDonalds they have calories in small text next to the menu items

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A job is the biggest gains goblin when it comes to fat loss
    >be me
    >911 disapatcher
    >coworker are fat women constantly bringing in boxes of donuts, pizza etc to share
    >lose my self control and eat half a pizza
    >I have my chicken, fat free cottage cheese etc to get me through the 12 hour shift then go for a run
    >get held over for 6 hours of overtime
    >no food but the pizzas and snack machine
    >eat garbage
    >too tired to exercise
    >dont have time or energy to prep healthy food for tomorrow
    >fire department brings us all the left over food from their potluck
    >fffuuuuuuuuu!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get a different job, man. I'm a firefighter and have visited you guys in dispatch. It is not a job I can imagine having and trying to make it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded normie mindset
      >Just don't eat a shitload of garbage
      There you go dumbass

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have a lunch/dinner break? My life changed when I skipped unhealthy lunches to do a 40 min lunch workout at gym EVERY day. Brought food/protein shake.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, same can be said for resident doctors lifestyle.
      >overtime
      >sometimes the only food is high carb high caffeine
      >no time to exercise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Checked, but it's literally better to fast. I don't know a single friend in residency who hasn't gained weight. Fat gut, fat head.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but it's literally better to fast
          I couldn't deal with the brain fog during fast.
          And doing surgery on empty stomach isn't a good idea.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because society says eating goyslop is okay. It's that simple, normies are herd animals so it's impossible for them to think about the overconsumption of HFCS and vegetable oils seriously. Tell them to buy the organic, high quality hot dogs that are lower calorie, better protein, etc, and they'll tell you the cheap hotdogs are cheaper.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Makes your Bulk/Cut extremely manageable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate this bloated piece of shit app

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MFP was god-tier back in the day. Then under armor bought them out, added all the bloat, and put most of the features behind a ridiculous paywall.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mogs MFP or Chronometer by miles

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Might try that. I know my phone is slowing down a bit but MFP takes forever to log shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this will always be the best diet/routine tracker.
        i don't even care that it's garden gnomegle

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          did this for literally a year, but recently switched to mfp. id say ive earned it doing the autistic data entry for so long

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i will give you a pass i suppose
            enjoy the ads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A notepad is even less work

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A notepad suggests you know the exact macros and calories on literally everything you eat, and that suggests you're probably someone who primarily eats shitty highly processed foods. Ngmi

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A notepad suggests you know the exact macros and calories on literally everything you eat
          Sure
          >and that suggests you're probably someone who primarily eats shitty highly processed foods.
          Not sure I'm following the logic here. What about recording calories via a notebook suggests someone eats primarily highly processed foods?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, I just keep a running total of calories in and protein in. I eat fatty meat 2 or 3 times a week, and otherwise eat lean meats, veggies, rice and potatoes.
          It's really not complex.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a pen and fancy bound notebook.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know it’s fun to laugh at fat people who have bad diets, but I was completely unable to lose body fat while eating at a caloric deficit. I maintained the same amount of body fat while my muscle volume decreased and my test levels tanked. It wasn’t until I upped my calorie intake that I started burning fat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's physically impossible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/9xrKYfU.jpg

        >I was completely unable to lose body fat while eating at a caloric deficit
        Call the press anon, your body is a perpetual motion machine and you've solved the limited energy problem that has been plaguing humanity, you can live like a king now after the scientists examine your body for the secret.

        >never move
        >zero muscle mass
        >guestimate calories without actually tracking
        >still eat snacks but don't count them
        >don't count orange juice it's healthy after all
        >I totally tried to lose weight guys
        Here's a fool proof plan for losing weight: don't eat unless you're hungry. You should be hungry at least 3 hours before you eat. Don't eat until you burst, eat slow until your appetite goes away.

        Three retards who aren’t aware that your muscle can be metabolized for energy just like your fat can, and your endocrine and thyroid function influence that. Look up Cushing’s syndrome/disease and you’ll see what this looks like at the extreme.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          most of the "muh thermodynamics" people have never been fat and had to diet down 50+ pounds

          they have no idea

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i have. i ate less, ate only healthy food and walked A LOT and lost 50lbs in 8 months. try another excuse

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fatasses have a million excuses why they're fat

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >obesity epidemic
            >"hurr why is everyone fat"
            >"i tried to lose weight and this is why it didnt work"
            >"uh actually thermodynamics"
            >"right but here is why it didnt work"
            >"thermodynamics

            and the obesity epidemic continues

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I ended up lowering my body fat % by increasing my caloric intake. There’s a reason that extremely overweight people generally don’t keep the weight off - if you can burn your body fat, it will be at the expense of your muscle as well. Look into what happened to participants of the show “The Biggest Loser,” who were deep in caloric deficits and also often on medications meant to encourage weight loss.

              ketofag please, stop strawmanning and pretending you're someone else, I know you're just one post away from infographics

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m phoneposting so I hope this uploads right, but diff guy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post body with timestamp
                I already know ketofag samefags and obviously he posts from as many computers and phones as possible.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m shilling carb intake in here so I’m obviously not ketofag

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I ended up lowering my body fat % by increasing my caloric intake. There’s a reason that extremely overweight people generally don’t keep the weight off - if you can burn your body fat, it will be at the expense of your muscle as well. Look into what happened to participants of the show “The Biggest Loser,” who were deep in caloric deficits and also often on medications meant to encourage weight loss.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I was unable to consistently lose weight without having a "cheat day" where i would have an entire pizza

              I had it on sunday and by monday i shat it out and lost another pound

              The "science" behind weight loss always looping around to "muh thermodynamics" is a crock of shit.

              yes ultimately your body cannot support itself thermodynamically

              that has almost nothing to do with fat vs muscle loss and thyroid function , hormones , and metabolism that can be shifting all over the place

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Three retards who aren’t aware that your muscle can be metabolized for energy just like your fat can,
          Never said it couldn't moron, you said "I was completely unable to lose body fat while eating at a caloric deficit" that is bullshit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Guess you can’t put two and two together - you can lose weight at a caloric deficit by exclusively metabolizing your muscle mass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would your body burn your muscle when you are FULL OF FUCKING LARD? IMBECILE

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because its what the body does

            look it up

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's some dumb shit. If you weight train your body won't burn muscle. The real issue is most fatass' over estimate how much lean mass they actually have.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you weight train you wont lose muscle

                HAHAHAHHAHAHA

                holy shit look at this guy. its 2022 and he doesnt know the body eats muscle

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your macros were off or you didn't train hard enough. Simple as. I've lost 60-70 lbs and gained muscle before. What macros did you consume?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is not true. Whether or not your body uses muscle as an energy source is dependent on your hormone profile, which can improve with LBM, but is not one-to-one pinned to it. For example, you can look at steroid users who develop quasi-Cushing’s syndrome and immediately metabolize all of their muscle in spite of their high LBM.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why you have to eat the correct macros with dense micronutrients content to manipulate the hormonal profile naturally through nutrition.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s true, and oftentimes people mistake that for just eating more protein. For me it meant increasing total caloric intake by raising all three macros, but with the jumps being in the order protein > fat > carb.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah exactly bro

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally everyone’s body will ramp up ketogenesis if sufficiently starved. I doubt there’s any even extremely rare disorder where this wasn’t true. The “muh thermodynamics” people are completely right. Losing fat is the “easiest” fitness goal because it’s entirely doable by fucking everyone. Nothing changes that, whereas people can just be genetically fucked when it comes to gaining weight or losing muscle. The only thing that changes is the amount of effort you have to put in. Some can do it with a calorie deficit and some have to be essentially starving. But failing is always a case of you didn’t try hard enough.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >people can hand underlying metabolic conditions like diabetes or fucking Pillow disease so what is true for otherwise healthy people may not be true for them
          Stop the fucking presses anon, this bold and staggering new insight must be shared with the masses.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/9xrKYfU.jpg

        >I was completely unable to lose body fat while eating at a caloric deficit
        Call the press anon, your body is a perpetual motion machine and you've solved the limited energy problem that has been plaguing humanity, you can live like a king now after the scientists examine your body for the secret.

        To be fair, he said he was loosing muscle. It takes like an entire week of full on starvation for your body to reach 90% of peak ketogenesis. If he was still eating nothing but carbs, hike probably would lose a lot of muscle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was completely unable to lose body fat while eating at a caloric deficit
      Call the press anon, your body is a perpetual motion machine and you've solved the limited energy problem that has been plaguing humanity, you can live like a king now after the scientists examine your body for the secret.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminds me of a recent experience of mine

        > big fat black fuck runs into random person's house screaming that he got shot around the corner
        > know this is BS because there were a bunch of people hanging out there all day and no one heard anything
        > pretty sure the retard shot himself
        > go visit fat fuck in the hospital
        > ER staff had to cut off his pants to access the wound that's high up on his thigh
        > i would say that this guy had the smallest dick I've ever seen, but i can't, because i couldn't see his dick at all
        > i shit you not, this dude had a normal sized ballsack with what looked like a bellybutton in the middle of it where his dick should have been
        > lol and then leave

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The thought of a pair of kraut doctors absolutely losing it and trying to pull it together and just stop laughing for long enough to go disengage and go back to work is so good. What a painting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >never move
      >zero muscle mass
      >guestimate calories without actually tracking
      >still eat snacks but don't count them
      >don't count orange juice it's healthy after all
      >I totally tried to lose weight guys
      Here's a fool proof plan for losing weight: don't eat unless you're hungry. You should be hungry at least 3 hours before you eat. Don't eat until you burst, eat slow until your appetite goes away.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's easy for normies to lose weight. They do the things they are supposed to do. It's the weirdos who "struggle with the most ridiculous diets."

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because of the ~~*three meals a day*~~ paradigm

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frequency of meals is irrelevant. You can gain weight on OMAD or lose weight on 6 meals a day, it all boils down to caloric balance.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as a former obese, the hunger is constant and hard to fight, if I'm hungry it will sit on my mind all day, it's kind of like needing to take a massive shit, can't focus on anything else.

    Lost most of the weight 10 years ago but still like 25-30% bf over the years, last few months I've been able to stick to a diet and lost alot of weight, think I'm like sub 20% now. Whats working for me is sticking to whole foods, bananas, half tub of greek yogurt, a big can of fish, chicken thighs, force feeding lean protein is the best way to stay satiated, I avoid junk because it's addicting, non satiating and fucks with your taste buds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also eating shit like this that was made to sell is so integral to the American diet, tv/marketing makes it socially acceptable, normal to eat crap like this. Some people can eat this shit and be skinny, but a majority of people can't.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Whats working for me is healthy
      wow, genius

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the difference is in the past I would try to make shit taste good, adding stuff to greek yogurt, but really it's about eating crap that doesn't taste good.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    insulin resistance

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it either. I was a skinnyfat fuck and lost 2lbs per week with a 50% caloric deficit and high protein. Lost my gut in like 3 months, then bulked reaaonably. Is it that hard?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They fall for the habit meme and think paying for a gym so they can do some lightly straining exercises for an hour a week is a good investment and will fix years of sitting in a chair.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Goyslop fucks up hormones.

    CICO is definitely true, but alot of available food is goyslop and in large quantities, and our bodies are heavily dependent on how our hormones are in the body. This is why people take various rouds and hormone effecting peds. Also why its harder when ur older

    Once ur hormones are fucked its harder to get back. But you need to get back to fix your hormones

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you seriously don't understand how little the average zoomer moves.
    they have a tdee of like 1400 calories and one of their fucking avocado toast and a starbucks coffe are like 1000 of those calories.
    so of course they are hungry later and eat over their tdee.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't exercise much/at all and don't count calories.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    theyre the type of people to ask "what should i eat to lose weight?" when literally the secret to weight loss is to simply eat less.
    normies are looking for comfort. losing weight is uncomfortable. if youre comfortable you arent losing weight. you need to be hungry around 10 am (after breakfast), 3 pm (after lunch), and 9 pm (after dinner to morning) every day to lose weight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don’t need to be hungry if you eat enough protein and veggies. The most uncomfortable thing about weight loss is shopping and cooking all the time.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being in a caloric deficit is uncomfortable and people don't like being uncomfortable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its only uncomfortable for carb heads, meat eating chads can just eat less food with little change

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't stop eating trash food

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >losing weight
    >wow I lost .02 lbs this week
    >it's only going to take me all year at this rate
    being not-overweight plus trying to keep muscle makes losing weight rough
    but I'm just making excuses

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because they don't know why or how diets help you lose weight. I was a fat kid growing up and thought the only way to lose weight is eating greens and salads while running a lot. Or getting burnt out on meme diets like keto and getting no results.
    Until I came across a post telling me if I'm struggling that fucking hard that I should calculate my TDEE ,weigh and measure everything I eat and count my damn calorie.

    I wish I knew about CICO growing up.. Calculating TDEE and calories management needs to be taught on the first day of PE and biology class in middle school.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess this guy pretty much answers the OP question of why is it so difficult for normies to lose weight.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    where's all the "sneed oil" gays who shit up these threads by saying the sole cause of obesity is the spoonful of Wesson you cook your chicken in?

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eat a diet of healthy while nutrient rich and protein dense foods at approximately your tdee
    >exercise
    Why is this so hard for fat shits to understand. Stop trying to lose 100lbs in a month by fasting or whatever and just eat like a human being. Change your damn diet and stick to one that’s healthy and sustainable long-term or you will fail, it’s that simple. You WILL see results if you just stick to eating maintenance and lift.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You WILL see results
      gay i dont want to have results in 10 years. I want them now. Or actually i want them asap. So kys with your "just eat healty" bullshit.
      I am on a deficit of 1000 cals and its the first time im actually seeing results, contrary to when i just "ate healthy" and excersised.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I fast if I over eat or fuck up by not counting.
      I also fast the day before my monthly cheat day

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    normies have a comically bad understanding of nutrition, it's not something taught in schools, unless you workout the average person is gonna have no idea what calories are. This is why its so easy for them to fall for meme diets and scams, like "drink this kale shake and burn 20 pounds and get toned and maybe your husband will one day manage to get an erection looking at you", or they become a vegamoron or a ketolard.

    tldr, addictive goyslop + bad understanding of nutrition

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People unironically dont know about calories and couldnt estimate the amount of calories in anything they eat
    So they learn about calories
    >You have to actively work against the world to lose weight since every corner has some shit food, the end of every isle in the supermarket has some shit good, people are always trying to get you to eat shit food
    So you take note of this and avoid what you can
    >After this people find it too easy to just eat out of boredom or emotions, the food they eat is cheap with lots of calories but doesnt fill you up leading you to overeat, not to mention whatever chemicals are added to their "food"
    Basically, junk food is pushed in your face constantly and these days most people do passive activities like doomscrolling or netflix watching which frees up their hands to misbehave

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we have an unlimited access to processed foods, vegetable oils, and HFC syrup. At every corner theres fast food, gas station, and grocery store.
    Normies have an attention span of a nat, and don't remember geopolitical events from yesterday, let alone that big mac meal they had.
    Staying fit takes discipline and patience. Something normies will never have. They want instant gratification.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have the opposite problem.

    In a single workout I burn about 2200 calories.

    My weight is 200 lbs, 6'2'', I'm about 13% bf.

    I want to gain weight (pure muscle mass) and have to eat an absolute shitton to do so.

    What are most caloric dense foods that I could eat to get those calories up?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cream, milk and butter are good bets, also honey and/or maple syrup

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In a single workout I burn about 2200 calories.
      Are you running half marathons every day?
      >What are most caloric dense foods that I could eat to get those calories up?
      Peanut butter straight from the jar

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Are you running half marathons every day?
        No. I bought MyZone belt that I wrap around my chest when I go to gym.
        I have a quick walk to gym, then at least 1hr of physical exercise, then 30 minutes of intense cardio, then a walk home.
        All in all it takes about 3 hours.
        During that time I burn around 2000 calories minimum.
        I'm currently 90kgs and pretty muscular, but I was 95kg at one time when I stuffed my face like a pig, but I carried more fat. I want to get to 95kgs leangains style with tiny caloric surplus 200 cals+ or so. But its hard to even keep the current weight.

        I'm considering a Ligandrol cycle.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not that guy but it sounds like you're still overestimating. I do 5 BJJ classes weekly, amounting to about an hour of cardio daily. Doesn't make a big impact on my caloric needs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not that guy but it sounds like you're still overestimating.
            I'd think so, too, but it's data from that belt.
            Apparently my heart gets in high range quickly, so I burn a lot. Idk

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's only a little over 600 calories per hour. If he's the height, weight and lean Ness that he says he is then I believe it. It's easy to burn a shit ton of calories when you're high BMI and low body fat and you're being very active.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Myzone
          Fucking hate those things. Why don't they just have an on button and a normal charging point. Like seriously, I have the pro, and it's such a cunt to get turned on sometimes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is this bait?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, why?
            Why would it be bait?
            What about it is bait worthy?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      could you post body
      I'm same height and same weight but like 10 % mor fat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, here it is.

        By the way, just by looking at it, what would be your guys estimation of my bodyfat?

        I'm 90kg now and want to be 95kg but maintain this bodyfat. Need to figure out best way of leangaining my way into 95 without roids. I will use roids if absolutely necessary. This is non-roided of coures

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, here it is.

        By the way, just by looking at it, what would be your guys estimation of my bodyfat?

        I'm 90kg now and want to be 95kg but maintain this bodyfat. Need to figure out best way of leangaining my way into 95 without roids. I will use roids if absolutely necessary. This is non-roided of coures

        oops forgot pic
        so yeah, i know I need to train chest more, I had sort of an injury which prevented good chest, shoulder workouts

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you are 70kg

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit, you fucking retard. I was in the gym for 3 and a half hours the other day, 3 hours of lifting and half an hour of cardio and that only burned about 900 calories. You are a retarded retard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Make a protein shake with full cream Jersey milk. Add 1 scoop whey, 1/2 scoop hemp protein + 1/2 scoop spinach protein. Add 1tbsp extra virgin olive oil. Add 1 banana if desired. Add cornstarch if you need carbs, add more olive oil if you don't.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    obesity epidemic
    >majority of foods sold and consumed are processed
    >these foods don't provide satiety, but have a high amount of calories and are very palatable
    >majority of days are spent completely sedentary, even "working" days
    >alcohol, eating out, fast food incorporated into normies' social life schedules
    >addictive fattening beverages starbucks, coca cola, alcoholic drinks that are a combination of addictive substances (caffeine+alcohol+sugar)
    >a culture that doesn't shame/guilt those who are out of shape any more.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Plus, normies believe what ever the "experts" on TV spout off.

      I have friends that yo-yo diet. They basically cut and then go on vacation and gain it all back. This would be less of an issue if they exercised, but the most they do it walk. It keeps getting harder for them, because they lose a little muscle each time around and don't build it back up with any kind of resistance training. I keep trying to get them to resistance train, but all I get is:
      >There's two parts to the equation
      >We just eat less
      >People we follow on YouTube do this to great effect
      It's pretty tiresome. tbh. Especially, we all of my other friends are getting into lifting and/or crossfit and drastically changing their bodies for the better. Meanwhile, these people just eat less. They're disciplined, and they get it done but they're normies and won't lift because "experts" say it doesn't make a big difference for losing weight.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because they're not focused.

    I'm not talking about some dumb-ass philosophical eastern shit. I don't know how to explain it, either.

    It feels like normies and the type of people who complain about 'genetics' just aren't actually *doing* anything to make a change. Maybe it's the autism of understanding and manipulating systems and being able to leverage the rules you get from playing videogames, but normies just want to *talk* about things and not see what the result of their actions are.

    For instance, I am eating to lose 0,5% to 1% of bodyweight each week, and it seems to have been working. But if it hadn't, I would have had to change a variable to see if it did. So you then you keep going until you understand all the rules and mechanics so you can get what you wnat.

    But normies? They attempt to do something, and then when they don't get the result, they give up and come up with an excuse.

    I guess it's just perseverance, really. If you start doing anything at all.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because """"diets""" don't work. Calories in and calories out. Eat at a deficit and you will lose weight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so in other words go on a diet

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes and no.
        Normies have this idea that a "diet" is some temporary restrictive eating pattern that you use to become healthy, and then you can go back to stuffing your face.
        In reality, "diet" is just a collective term for everything you eat an drink. If you're an unhealthy fat ass, then you're already on a "diet", but it is a bad one.
        If you're 500lbs, then you don't "go on a diet", you CHANGE your diet to a healthier one, and you keep it there. You stick to it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Normies don't have a regular diet, they consume calories they are not really aware of. They snack, they have a "treat" every now and then and don't adjust their next meals accordingly, they eat out a lot, they get shitty food at work or during their breaks and have no idea how much they have eaten. Even if they do cook meals they "need" the variety, so they have meals that can vary a lot in calorie count. Personally, I literally never consume any calories I don't account for. I never snack unless it's planned, I never spontaneously eat out, I buy the same base ingredients for my meals in the same amounts, every lunch is the same serving size. If I do diverge and skip a meal like breakfast I know I can add in a snack or have a bigger portion of lunch, etc. I don't need to count calories for this, I can just eyeball it, because it is extremely easy to account for everything I have eaten.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they don't understand that for most people long term intermittent fasting is far superior to CICO crash diets. Normies want fast results, can't plan ahead and don't have staying power. Fatties who claim they are constantly dieting without results are in fact just crashing and restarting constantly. The "Health" industry is also happy with fatties being stuck in the unsustainable diet loop since it's a huge money making scheme.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Intermittent fasting is still CICO

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ofc. By "CICO crash diets" I only meant ones normies try that still involves eating carbs throughout the day. CICO will always be more sustainable with fasting.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Why is it so difficult for Normies to lose weight?

    because normies are cattle, literal automatons. not a single free thought bouncing about in their vacuous minds.

    t. lost 12kg by intermittent fasting, something which normoids said would literally kill me

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny thing is, you don’t even need to count calories to lose weight.
    >entire immediate family(parent’s and four sisters) are fatties
    >grew up skinny and got fit by 20s
    >people thought I was starved at home
    >used to try to help family, but they don’t wanna be helped, except for youngest sister
    >youngest sister was 19. Chubby but fat from the point of no return
    >she approaches me and wants to get fit
    >tell her it’s easy and I’ll show her the way
    >evaluate her diet, if she continues her dark ways she’ll end up like our mom
    >teach her how to cook a few things
    >tell her to eat 3 meals a day
    >no refined sugar, no seed/vegetable oils, no fast food, no eating out for the next 3 months, hit the gym 4-6 days a week
    >little sister does what I do and eats what I eat, no complaints
    >eventually she starts sleeping over since we hit the gym at 5am and I live closer than our parent’s house
    >now she basically moved into my place
    >she gets the hang of simple cooking
    >months go by
    >she drops from 210 @ 5’7 to 170lb(only weighed her at the very beginning)
    >she gets new clothes that fit better
    >she has more confidence in herself
    >other sisters get jelly
    >accuse me of starving her
    >mom says shit like she’ll gain the weight back because of genetics
    >dad is the only one that’s happy
    >offer to help him, but he says “Oh no, I like my pizza and beer lol”
    >dad had two heart attacks in the last 3 years

    Fatties just have no self control or discipline. If they really wanted to, they could lose the weight, but since they can’t do it in a week…fuck it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glad you were able to help your sister anon. That's the other thing I've noticed, other people will sabotage your progress if they can. My diabetic mother constantly brought high carb, high sugar food home and would become very upset if I didn't eat any. The pressure was intense and I gained a lot of weight. I also was too depressed to exercise. Once I got her out of my house I lost 40lbs in 5 months.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s always the youngest ones that are able to be saved. I think by the time someone is 21-24yo, they're already set in their dirty disgusting ways. Before they know it, they’re an obese 30yo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God bless you, good brother, you saved your sister's life and confidence

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tell her to eat 3 meals a day
      Is good or bad to eat less?

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had a relative stay with me for two months to help with our new baby. They are a lovely person, but they are terrible about food. If they reported their diet this is what they would list, and it would be accurate(ish).
    >Lots of coffee and tea with milk and no sugar
    >2 eggs and one slice of toast for breakfast with a little butter
    >Salad with home made vinaigrette, usually no meat added
    >Fruit for a snack, probably 2-3 servings per day
    >Meat, vegetables and rice or potatoes

    So why can't this person lose weight? They wanted to go eat out every week, sometimes twice a week. They also love pasta and oatmeal, would occasionally eat random sandwiches throughout the day, and never exercised. Typical activities include working on the PC all day and then playing PC games after work. The most exercise they got was holding a baby.

    Part of their problem is a lack of boundaries. If my scumbag cousins bring them unhealthy takeout they feel obligated to eat all of it. They grow up on a tight budget so when they are invited to dinner they still think of it as a treat so they order extravagant food. They also are extremely averse to wasting food, and will not throw away food that is given to them for free even if it is terrible for them, even if it will destroy their daily progress. They also don't like to weigh each week and instead do a weigh in every few months.

    This person prefers to eat healthy whole foods, and that is what makes up the majority of their diet. They don't even drink soda and have pretty big muscles under their fat.

    My goal when they visited was to help them lose 5lbs. I gained 10 instead because I have some of the same issues. It was very eye opening (already lost it again a month later though). I am hopeful that on their next visit maybe I can help them better.

    >TL:DR: Normies are beholden to social pressure around food combined with a lack of boundaries, live sedentary lifestyles and seriously underestimate how much they eat

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people have a similar willpower limit. Normies don't believe simply eating whatever you want just at a slightly lower calorie amount than your TDEE works because it doesn't sound complex enough, so they chose a fad diet. Fad diets go beyond that willpower limit so they relapse by the 3rd or 4th week.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine instead of a full second serving you only take a serving and a half...
      The horror and complexity of dieting, this is unsustainable!

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I yoyoed for years,I f I think about losing weight I lose weight,I dont get skinny but well under overweight,problem is when I stop thinking about eating less I start putting on the weight again.
    Currently 69kgs at 173 cms but this time Im more muscular,I will try to never lose focus again.
    I used to yoyo from 67 kgs to 87 kgs with barely any muscle.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its almost as if the butter golems are correct: there IS a diet industry (that works hand in glove w the gubimint) to keep you fat, gross and stupid. They may actually be on to something.

    The correct response is not to embrace the modern diet of pink "plant based" (i.e. seed oil, wheat and sugar) donuts, but to reject ALL modern foods and eat a traditional meat based, whole food diet.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they eat shit food with shit additives that make you addicted

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because normies are weak and stupid as fuck

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hunger. That is it. One of the most powerful drives no matter what I eat. I’m like a Labrador. Probably leptin ghrelin are fucked up. Feels bad, like torture

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it comes suddenly and painfully and can´t go away with just whatever you eat, it´s not hunger. that´s a craving. Try an electrolyte drink since your brain is looking for something specific

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What stuff you can do to lose weight while sitting?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      eat less food

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OK, what else?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that is literally it, sorry fatty

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that is literally it, sorry fatty

          actually you can vomit. forced vomiting can help lose weight

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because "Intuitive eating'' is the popular diet trend and people think counting calories doesn't work.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For some reason people can't even imagine the idea of skipping a meal or not eating and being hungry is apparently the worst thing in the universe for some reason.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ive been eating at a 500 calorie deficit, weighing my food to make sure im accurate, and trying to walk a decent amount of steps every day and my normie family who arent even fat think this is extreme bc they just eat whatever they want and dont care about body fat %. A basic deficit is extreme to regular people because they think losing weight comes down to walking in the treadmill for 30 minutes and doing some meme diet that theyll give up on because they dont know that you can eat whatever you want with the right portions. I stopped trying to explain it to them when my dad tried to shill me spot reduction exercise

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't listen to them anon. Just keep working hard and doing what is working. Same thing happened with my family except they actually started trying to sabotage my diet when I started looking decent. Don't let them do that ok.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause they're retarded and not sigmautistic like me

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No consistency is a big one. A buddy of mine will go on keto every other month, lose a handful or two of weight, then puts it all back on by eating a shitload of fried chicken or some other slop.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most ppl are legit subhuman, that's the only explanation

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poisoned enviroment and food. Meaningless existence creating learned helplesness. Those are the big two I think.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    FF

    It's a multi-faceted issue. The average diet is full of ingredients that keep people in an obese and unhealthy state, like seed oils or copious amounts of sugar. The dietary industry further complicates this with recommendations that are either based upon faulty science or are completely bought-out opinions. Parts of modern culture now push towards things like fat acceptance, which fuels complacency. What's considered normal, like three meals a day, are incredibly difficult mindsets to change because the average person is dogmatic in social standards. As another anon pointed out, you almost require some degree of an inherent proclivity towards questioning the status quo.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think all normies have some story stored away in their head that keeps them calm.
    Every stupid fuck in the world has lost a few lbs doing some form of diet and they all just think that if they really need to they'll whip that out.
    Maybe while they're at it they'll do a 6 week transformation to get a Hollywood physique like in that youtube video.
    Sure it'll be hard, but they'll just do it because they're built different.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they constantly cheat on the diets and eat sugary, fatty crap

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's hard to lose weight when you are under 5'9"

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    normies stuff their face 24/7.

    breakfast
    snack
    lunch
    snack
    dinner
    snack
    probably another mid night snack

    not to mention goyslop foods (basedbean oils, high fructose corn syrup, aritifical colors and flavors)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do this and I'm not even close to being fat

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to go onto 0 calories until im ripped. Expecting to go from 200lbs to 130-140lbs.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people didn’t have problems keeping the weight off in their teens and twenties, but kept the bad habits as they got older. I see it with my own friends, who get drunk and down Taco Bell every weekend and wonder what happened to their abs.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the stupid fucking instagram influencers all get surgeries, angles, steroids, body shaping or already don't eat, then go tell everybody they lost 60lbs by lifting weights only.

    Yeah people are really fucking stupid, but god forbid you tell the fucking truth about HEALTH AND FITNESS.

    For example: lifting for strength doesn't make your body look any different unless you do exercises for hypertrophy. There, I said it. Majority of people don't lift weights for strength, people who lift for strength only look like shit.

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