He's 5"10 and 365 lbs. I live with him, so I can keep track of what he eats. He's been obese since he was a toddler. He doesn't have a thyroid problem, and all his blood tests are normal. Health wise he is perfectly healthy and doesn't have any health issues related to his weight. His blood pressure, sugar and cholesterol are normal. He has three brothers who eat more than him and are shorter and they are very skinny. He doesn't eat breakfast most of the time. I checked the calorie count of the stuff he eats throughout the day and he's eating around 1,700-1800 calories a day. According to an online TDEE calculator his basal metabolic rate should be above 3,000 for his weight.
Sorry you’re a gay and I don’t help gays
Frick off with your feeder fetish
He has sugma
what is sugma?
Sugma balls
I wish I was that big
>my boyfriend is so fat he surpassed the laws of thermodynamics
breasts or gtfo
why are you asking a man for his breasts
Do you also track what he drinks? For example 2 litres of coca-cola has 840kcal. Do you track stuff like oil and butter that's used in cooking? Are you together 24/7 and you 100% know he isn't eating above this number?
While there might be a rare disease making him gain weight, it's more common that the tracking is done incorectly or the person straight up lies what he eats, in case of binging disorders, that might be because of shame.
This. My cousin was obese for most of her life. She was tracking her calories daily, even worked out 1-2 times per week but would not lose weight. She was so desperate and frustrated. Then she lived with us for one month, because she didn't find an apartment and it became very clear why she didn't lose weight. She estimated the weight of many of the things she ate, she often forgot to add the calories of oil to the calorie counting app, she often forgot to add drinks and smaller snacks. She highly underestimated the calories of many food items, especially fatty and sugary things. She thought she consumed about 1800 kcal/day, but we figured out it was on average 2900 kcal/day. That's such a crazy difference.
many such cases, sad
While this is certainly true for some people, I haven't been able to lose fat, nor weight in general, while eating ~2140 calories per day (everything weighed, not estimated) at 6'6, 285 lbs.
My daily macros at 2140 calories are:
184.45g protein
168.25g carbs
96.65g fat
I've eaten this consistently for about a year - before that I ate even less. For the past couple of weeks I've added an additional meal of scrambled eggs, and I've neither gained nor lost any weight in that time.
I guarantee that if someone else took total control of your diet, the pounds would fall off.
> doesn't know you actually have to exercise on a cut
I exercise daily, resistance or cardio, and am also hypothyroid. I have a hard time stomaching more than I eat now.
I don't think so. What do you imagine is the flaw in my diet that they would correct?
No one outside of professional bodybuilders are as accurate as overweight people claim they are. You are deluding yourself if you think you have a good handle on your diet.
So your only response is, "You must not be measuring accurately." With how much b***hing and moaning there is over eating chicken and rice, I can guarantee that I eat cleaner than 95% of IST.
If you're talking to me, I was diagnosed hypothyroid around three years ago. I later lost my health insurance and have not seen a doctor in about two years.
>instead of lowering the amount you eat demonstrates that
In a previous message I mentioned that I ate fewer calories in the past - that's when I was diagnosed hypothyroid. When I increased my caloric intake to ~2140, I did not gain any weight, but had more energy to work and exercise.
Have not heard of this - will look into it.
>I eat cleaner than 95% of IST
There's no helping you. You simply don't understand.
I think you're the one who doesn't understand that the body can modulate its metabolism to easily outpace any potential caloric deficit caused by diet or exercise.
fatty
When you get older and your metabolism slows down, just remember this conversation.
I'm 54 and cut an inch off my waist in the last 4 weeks.
Then it sounds like you were overeating! Let me know when you're eating Auschwitz portions and not losing any weight.
Yes, my waist was approaching 32" while I was bulking. I put on 10 pounds and added an inch to my waist. I cut my waist back to the starting point and only needed to lose 2 lbs to do it. How are you doing?
It's down to 31" btw
You're right. I don't understand delusion.
This is literal HAES talking points, we are being trolled.
>If you're talking to me, I was diagnosed hypothyroid around three years ago. I later lost my health insurance and have not seen a doctor in about two years.
you can't go to a free clinic?
There are no free clinics in my area unless you are literally federal poverty level - less than you would make at a minimum wage job in this part of the US.
What an amazing country.
>I can guarantee that I eat cleaner than 95% of IST.
Obviously not, otherwise you wouldn't be such a fatty boomba.
>What do you imagine is the flaw in my diet that they would correct?
The amount of calories.
If you want to lose weight then just fricking rest less. You say you ate less before and didn't lose weight, so eat less than that.
>but I'm worried about starving myself
You're obviously not starving yourself because you weigh 285 lbs. If your weight is stable then you're clearly getting more than enough calories, keep dropping calories until you begin dropping weight.
I consumed fewer than 2000 calories per day, long term, which led to me going from 230 to 285 lbs. In that same period, I developed gyno, edema, and diffuse balding (not androgenic alopecia). My weight stabilized when I began consuming more calories - not fewer. I predict that I will lose weight as I increase my caloric intake, plateauing at some point at which I'll actually be able to manage a caloric deficit/caloric excess as needed.
>I consumed fewer than 2000 calories per day, long term, which led to me going from 230 to 285 lbs
>I predict that I will lose weight as I increase my caloric intake
LMAO
if you really are weighing your food and actually counting everything including oils, sauces, and even seasonings like garlic and onion powder, as well as developing even more potential symptoms, then you really should just go see a doctor and get all the relevant bloodwork done and go from there. could be something as simple as low t or any number of metabolic diseases.
Here are some facts:
- You are lying about how many calories you ate
- You're fat
- lol
Recalibrate your food scale and double check the caloric content of everything you're putting in your mouth. If you're still gaining weight on smaller portions and losing on larger ones (same meal composition otherwise), give some thought to who has motive and opportunity to tamper with your food.
This guy asked for food advice and someone told him eat better and he read it as eat butter.
real schizo pig hours
The flaw is (YOU) homie. If I stuck your ass in my fat camp two things would happen. Your desire to escape would increase heavily. I would smoke a cigarettes for the test boost. Then you would realize that with only drinking water and a stairmaster at your disposal the only option is to lose weight to escape. Though for you I might put copious amount of sucrose in the drinking pond so you could never escape just because you are a massive homosexual.
I'm a 170cm 60kg midget with hypothyroidism and I eat more calories than you. Are you completely sedentary or something?
He's kidding himself
See
>an energy intake substantially higher than reported
Unless the nutrition labels are wildly off, that's an impossibility. Like I said before, I weigh 100% of my food - I do not "estimate" anything - which is why my macros are listed down to two decimal places.
>an overestimation of physical activity
My theoretical BMR (i.e. the number of calories I should burn independent of any exercise) is higher than 2130 calories, so that's irrelevant. I could estimate that I am completely sedentary (which I'm not) and it would still contradict this.
>Unless the nutrition labels are wildly off, that's an impossibility.
You are married to numbers and expect accuracy and precision and it is not warranted. The fact that you made no changes in the the last year except maybe measuring even more, super-duper accurately instead of lowering the amount you eat demonstrates that.
Low metabolism
Sounds like bullshit
I'm 6'7 255 12-14%ish and need 5000 kcal to gain weight, cut comfortably in the 3000s which is what I'm doing right now to get down to 240
Are you 30% bodyfat or how come you don't expend energy?
Thats why i add 25g of Butter for cooking daily.
If this is the case, there is something wrong. I remember watching a tv show once about mystery illnesses and a woman had this problem. She had Cushing Disease. The doctors actually laughed at her when she told them about not eating and gaining weight because they did not believe her.
Get him to insist on a full physical.
This
He either is not actually eating only 1700 and the counting is wrong/he's eating behind your back.
Or has a serious medical problem.
You definitely need a medical opinion on this because 1700 is a deficit for even an average weight. At his size and at that calorie count he should be losing a lot. I would argue that is too great a deficit.
Maybe you (sorry, your boyfriend) are not in fact eating 1700 calories a day and you are lying. Can you elaborate on what these 1700 calories look like on the plate?
If it's not a LARP take him to a good endocrinologist.
Please quote the full article, because it says EVERYONE misreports. Skinny, fat, normal, everyone.
I think a problem is that even if you are tracking everything rigorously there's measurement errors already built into the system. The nutritional facts about food aren't always precise and can be off by a certain amount. For example, we keep creating new breeds of fruits and vegetables which alters their macros. The variance between corn is fricking wild, but they just slap on the official USDA database value that was measured who the frick knows when and call it a day.
IIRC you're allowed some insane level of variance on your calories/macros on nutrition labels, like 20% in either direction. I've seen anons recommend that if you're trying to lose weight, add 20% to whatever the package says, and the opposite if you're trying to gain weight.
So what? If I underreport my calorie intake by 10% and underreport calorie expenditure by 10%, no harm. If I underreport intake by 20% and over report expenditure by 20%, I'll wind up a fatass if I ignore what I see in the mirror every morning.
sounds like you are the "boyfriend" in this situation and just don't want to be flamed for being fat and lazy as hell. you aren't immune to the laws of thermodynamics sorry, I know you wish you were.
What does his primary doctor or nutritionist say?
Surely his doctor/nutritionist is concerned especially there merit to what you're saying?
He has stenisesia it's where he is producing and digesting bacteria in his gut.
He needs a k.a.t. 4 test.
At that rate he won't procreate nobody wants to frick some fat weak dipshit now do they? Sounds like he's highly mentally ill that'll take him further than anything else.
He's sneaking food.
- Fatties love to eat when they aren't being watched
- Fatties love lying about how much they eat.
He's porking down a 2,000 calorie burger meal every time he gets in the car, I guarantee it.
Why would you even try to cut before you have heavy lifts are you moronic? Ever see how fast a weak person gets fat?
I'm not eating like a girl.
Three potential explanation.
1. Your boyfriend is lying and sneaking food
2. You and your boyfriend are morons that don't know how to count calories
3. Your boyfriends body defies the laws of nature and creates energy out of nothing (he should be studied in a lab to be used to create infinite energy for the human race)
You choose
My fat friend eats junk away from his family and very fast, so they don't notice.
Chowing down croissants and waffles is quite common from him when outside.
So not only is his regular food too little, but his junk intake becomes a big part of his diet.
It's a type of shame eating fat people do, when their family bullied them for eating bad food a lot.
Have him go on a carnivore diet to lose weight.
He has hypogonadism.
Testosterone medical treatment is needed
People don't understand that everyBODY is different!
I am 5 foot 5, 460 pounds, and I ONLY eat ONE single grain of rice every single day. I've eaten this exact same diet for 20 years and went from 120 pounds to 460 pounds.
When you get older you'll understand.
In fact, the only time I've ever lost weight was when I started mirroring professional strongman diets of over 6000 calories daily. I ate 6000+ calories daily for a year and went from 460 back down to 280, but then ran out of money and had to revert back to my GORAD diet and almost immediately ballooned back up to 460 pounds.
Remember this story next time you want to call someone fat, lazy, and stupid. It's not always our fault, we're just built different.
He eats some random number of calories, his weight doesn't change ...
He should be eating less. Then check again. Adjust. Check. Adjust.
>uhmm I expend more energy than I take in, how come im not losing weight
do fat people really believe they have broken the 1st law of thermodynamics?
Listen I’m not morbidly obese. I’m 5’9” and 225, which is obese.
I’m doing better at the moment, steadily losing weight, but..
I’ve stopped drive thrus, used cash, and then stopped at gas stations to throw wrappers away.
I’ve gone out to get pizza for my family and stopped and eaten fast food on the way, AND candy bars at the grocery store next door while waiting for the pizza to finish.
I’ve hidden boxes of Nutty Bars and Oatmeal Cream Pies in the garage where I knew my wife wouldn’t go.
I’ve gone in the house during family barbecues to “use the bathroom” and eaten cookies and chocolate before coming back out.
I’ve stopped and eaten 3 dollar menu burgers on the way to going to lunch with my boss because I didn’t think the burger I was going to get with him would fill me.
Your boyfriend most likely doesn’t have a magically slow metabolism. He likely has food addiction/ binge eating disorder.
maybe your boyfriend's skin filter feeds nutrients from the atmosphere
>my boyfriend
Dropped.
Or he eats when you're not with him