I had to make a makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin and I feel so fricking good and productive. All my problems are just melting away.
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Cuz it's similar to meth and there's high potential for abuse
It's not addictive. I had it prescribed to me. All it did was make me hyper aware, give me worse insomnia, and make my body feel like it was dying. I quit after a couple months. I didn't care for the bad side effects. I did not have withdrawel symptoms at all.
a lot of people took opiates for surgery and didn't get addicted too. Just because you didn't doesn't mean others won't too, stupid frick.
The opiate epidemic wasn't caused by the average person getting on painkillers for surgery. The drug companies paid doctors to actively seek out individuals who could become addicts and encourage them to become addicted to their opioid products. They then did everything they could to suck as much money as they could out of the addicts.
Back in the 90s and early 00s you could get opiate Popsicles from the doctor. You would see strippers with lollipops filled with oxycodone direct from the manufacturer. Remember that the boomers had an almost limitless supply of cociane, meth and opiates during their teenage and adulthood.
ok but the fact remains that if you make it widely accessible then people will get addicted. You idiots are saying "well I took adderall and had no problems so nobody else will too". Stimulants are addictive. Just look at cigarettes, which are a weaker form of a stimulant.
That's what I'm saying.
It's stupid that people will try and justify their addiction. Also theajority of the people saying they take it and aren't addicted are lying. Try and tell them that they're an addict and they get violent.
>"but, I'm not an addict. I just need it to function. If you don't give it to me... ect. Ect. Ect."
I'll stop taking it once the project's finished.
Simple as
I used to smoke. I quit that cold turkey as well.
The worst symptom I got was a headache that wouldn't go away for a week. Most smokers are just weak willed homosexuals making excuses.
Next thing you'll tell me you suck wiener but thay doesn't make you gay because you gey paid in meth.
>ducked sock
Sorry. I don't share your moronic sexual fantasies.
Maybe try not thinking about dicks all day?
I took opiates too Black person gorilla. I had back surgery in 2009, spinal fusion and I take no opiates now. I quit cold turkey bro. I’m a real man not some junkie homosexual
>Says a drug isn't addictive so it should be widely available
>I'm a real man so I didn't get addicted
>if people got addicted then they weren't real men like me!
People who can get addicted to a nonaddictive substance have a defect in their brain. The real problem is that defect, not the substances they consume.
Addicts are the same mental defectives that eat themselves into being fat. They're the problem. Not the food. Very few substances are actually physically addictive. The ones that are can potentially kill you when you do quit cold turkey.
Adderall is definitely not one of those substances.
adderall can lead to stronger stuff like Meth. You're telling me methheads a safe and rational people that do no harm to society?
>muh gateway drug
Couple things…
A. What’s stronger stuff?
>inb4 meth
Frick off theyre the same
Anything that makes you feel good is addictive
Not if the negative side effects are stronger. With opiates I get a itchy nose and a strange ache so that counteracts the addiction. I can have small doses every now and again and never get addicted.
you sounds like the kind of person that will end up addicted to it. it's always people that assume they can't get addicted that do.
You can't get addicted to amphetamine. You literally just STOP taking it.
>but then I feel bad!
You'll get over it. Eat healthy, get some sleep, take zinc and magnesium, and take some DXM(say 140-180mg or so), and shake it off.
Basic simple willpower. Just because you're a weak-ass frick doesn't mean amphetamine is addictive.
This goes for ALL "addictions" too. Porn, weed, cigarettes, gambling.
The only truly addictive things on earth are opioid analgesics and GABAergics(alcohol, benzos, GHB/GBL, phenibut, Ambien, etc).
Opioid withdrawal will make you feel like you are in a living hell.
And alcohol/benzo withdrawal will make you feel as bad as an opioid withdrawal does, except possibly for years, and it might even kill you.
Stimulants can be easily kicked. Anyone saying otherwise is making bullshit excuses.
all this meth talk makes me hard
litteraly this
checked
hard....with meth? i have zero interest in sex when im on addys, rit, etc, and dk if i could even get hard on it. opiates on the other hand...
>It's not addictive.
Meth isn't addictive either, I've smoked ice several times over the past 20 years, each time just once and never felt addicted. I talking smoking it one time at a party and never doing it again for a few years, then doing it again another random time, then not doing again for another couple of years. Last time I smoked ice was maybe two or three years ago on new years eve. I can't even remember exactly it was so long ago.
>high potential for abuse
Unfortunately it’s not addictive though. I’ve been on and off of various versions of them and they’re definitely not addictive. I have zero withdrawal symptoms
see
did you then offset it with Caffiene?
>yes i did
Every day
Adderall IS meth. It just lacks an extra CH3.
It's just a shorter wiener but it's still a wiener that fricks your brain.
>Lead IS gold, it just lacks an extra proton
moron
That analogy doesn't work as you are talking about discrete elements whereas these are molecules. Adding a methyl group to amphetamine only slightly alters its biological function in humans. It's basic function of releasing dopamine is identical and uses the exact same mechanisms in the brain to achieve that. Methamphetamine is almost indistinguishable from amphetamine in blind studies when equipotent doses are given by the same route of administration (eg oral tablets).
Recreational users of methamphetamine tend to take much higher doses via different routes (smoking, injecting) than prescription users of amphetamines (low dose tablets). This causes wildly different results which confuses the midwit.
This 5mg tablet of methamphetamine is equivalent in potency to a 10 mg tablet of instant release amphetamine. Patients taking either one of these tablets in a blind test will have a tough time distinguishing the qualitive differences between them, some might prefer the effects of amphetamine and others methamphetamine due to unique brain chemistry.
However, if they were to smoke the methamphetamine, they would absolutely prefer the meth due to its very rapid onset of action (seconds) and very high peak blood levels occurring due to rapid transfer of the drug from the lungs to the blood stream, vs the very slow absorption of the tablet (30 minutes to an hour) in the digestive system which blunts its effect by dramatically reducing peak blood levels and reducing the area under the curve.
This is the reason crack cocaine is way more intense than snorting cocaine even though it's the same drug.
you can smoke amphetamine too. there's no difference between meth and amphetamine. meth is just stronger.
>fricks your brain.
another reason I don't prefer these. staying up on a dopamine flood for days on end takes too long to recover from
That’s not the real reason. israelites want you unproductive, despressed and lazy so they can milk you and loot your country. It was a different story in the 90s when they wanted American workers productive. Now they don’t want us to even exist hence the mass immigration.
i prefer percs/oxy, I can focus and I'm not on an addy bender trying to do 500 things at a time. but whats this recipe?
yeah, but if you sell everything OTC the people that don't know their limits will weed themselves out and OD. the war on drugs is obviously a losing battle
based
whats your point?
LOL. Like the drug companies and doctors care if you get addicted.
People who say adderall is the same as meth obviously haven’t done meth. I have an adderall rx and it’s nowhere near the level of meth which i have used many times.
meth is just stronger. if you compared 3mg meth to 15mg adderal, taken orally, it'd be the same. there is no qualitative difference in the experience between them.
Everything should be otc. Including opium and cocaine.
Also taking oxycodone.
So good
Based and drugpilled
Humans should be taking whatever helps them improve.
Just make it only available to certain income brackets
How old are you?
>im also taking opioids!
Fricking homosexual.
Just trolling you to get a reaction out of you. Glad to see it worked. Stay mad homosexual. Opioids are useless
They want everyone smoking weed and drinking alcohol and watching porn. They HATE when people take opiates and stimulants for some reason. Media says these are bad! It really makes you think.
>They HATE when people take opiates and stimulants for some reason
im sure the big pharma companies that profit immensely off of addicted opiate crisis boomers JUST DESPISE raking in all of that cash you fricking israelite
Weed can act as a stimulant replacement, especially in combination of a 100% sativa straind and heavy adhd symptoms
when it comes to kick the percs look into kratom which is over the counter, it'll delete with withdrawal symptoms and suppress the cravings for opioids
yes and no. it does stop the DT symptoms, but ive been eating kratom for a long time and im sitting here with 120mg of perc in me right now
that's because you're a hardcore addict who doesn't want to quit
Ivermectin.
based
i don’t think I would sniff coke but I would chew coca leaves
And become like California!
Ephedrine is not terribly good for your heart, there has been some indication of Ephedra being directly related to heart valve issues and dysrhythmias in patients with long term usage of it.
Lmao ever read the warnings on Cubans or adderall? Shit is fricking terrible for your heart
“May cause sudden death” is not something that should be otc
It's only terrible if you are an unfit person. If you are physically fit, your heart can handle the increased heart rate. No different from high doses of caffeine in that regard.
Why?
Without resorting to emotional pleas, why?
Why shouldn't I be able to buy a dangerous product?
Why should you?
The real answer is thay society is weighted in the favor of the wealthy. And the wealthy love to use their wealth to prevent the impoverished from acquiring self sufficiency. This leaves a large part of the population completely dependent on the rich for survival. If you give the population stimulants they will abuse them. Addicts make less efficient slaves. Why give them the carrot when the stick is free.
Because youre a fricking junk who cant even function without it (pathetic)
oh mr viceless here. kys moron.
Who? Go steal another car stereo you monkey.
This guy gets it. Meth heads are scum just like any other junkie. People trying to down play things like adderal aren't changing my mind.
No one cares you boomer israelite worshipping homosexual. Go back to fellating israel or ukraine.
You have anything to back that up or are you just looking for your next fix junkie.
Because, I, a bussiness owner, need the widest pool of non junkified white applicants I can get to keep wages down but product shipped on time.
Y’all already fricked up millenials hardcore enough and the zoomer crop ain’t much better. Junkies as far as they eye can see.
Frickers are ruining our society with their drug addict kids.
Multiply by however millions of businesses there are in the US and you have a functioning society. Unfortunately we are entering a repeat of chi as century of humiliation and do t have enough balls or bullets to fend off the evil chinks anymore, and they want vengeance. Everybody is too doped up to care. So I won’t care. Go have your fricking fent meth fest
Yup, people on amphetamine are historically known as terrible workers. That's why military pilots take amphetamine on long sorties. Because amphetamine makes you a lazy junkie.
Methheads are mostly scum, yes.
Amphetamine users are nothing like methheads. Every university engineering department on earth has speed on tap.
Why do you think the technology and engineering fields exploded in advancement during and after WW2?
Speed. And a little LSD too.
>Why do you think the technology and engineering fields exploded in advancement during and after WW2?
>Speed. And a little LSD too.
This is junkie logic.
You sound like a junkie.
And you sound like a homosexual. Maybe try some meth. homosexuals LOVE meth.
This is poor fat logic, you sound like a fat and a poor
You're making the druggies angry and that's a good thing.
>Why do you think the technology and engineering fields exploded in advancement during and after WW2?
>Speed. And a little LSD too.
Such a fricking cope. In your druggie mind, meth users existed in top positions in those fields.
LMAO This is the meth equivalent of Black folk thinking they ruled egypt, deisgned and built pyramids.
Instead, 99% chance you don't even know the names of two people in "technology" fields or engineering fields in that era that made noteworthy or historical advancements in the fields. Just smells like pure rationalization, speculation, and distortion of different historical facts to help you cope at night.
Most engineers or inventors after WWII built off of other engineers' ideas, the culture was like nerds raving over and creating gold SCP fiction or shut-ins from /x/ convening to make creepypastas in a hang out room everyday.
They didn't use meth like morons, certainly the greats didn't.
Most great inventors, and their inventions therefore, reigned before WWII. Nikola Tesla for one. Although, I'll say this, he liked admittedly liked caffeine and promoted its use but hated vices in general and couple of his own. Very disciplined and bright man who could visualize his prototypes in operation before even putting their components together. It was a different time, your drugs are just a compensation for the mentality that was lost or hidden in wealthy trad families decades ago.
>In your druggie mind, meth users
Hey frickhead. Yeah, YOU.
Reread my posts ITT, and sort your dumbass out.
Shut the frick up moron, I don't need to read your posts in this sad little druggie thread. have a nice day for even thinking what you said would be important to me.
Whatever dude. You're the one that looks like a wienersmoker in this thread, not me.
I come bearing pharmacological facts, you come talking shit.
>did lsd once and freaked out like a npc homosexual
LSD doesn't make you smarter or better it just fricks with your brain by blocking random synapses - sometimes permanently because the molecule literally gets stuck in the receptor and can't be dislodged which leads to things like HPPD.
>Instead, 99% chance you don't even know the names of two people in "technology" fields or engineering fields in that era that made noteworthy or historical advancements in the fields.
Not exactly WW2, but Paul Erdos published the most math papers out of anyone and he did his work on amphetamines. A friend even bet him if he could stay sober for some period of time and Erdos won the bet, but remarked that he couldn't get much math done in that period of time.
Thomas Edison and Freud did cocaine.
A pilot taking 30 mgs of amphetamine salts is not the same thing as a tweaker who injects a gram or two of methamphetamine a day up his arm.
Go through the thread and read my posts.
Comparing amphetamine to meth is fricking moronic.
They are technically the same class of drugs(norepinephrine-dopamine releasing agent). But meth is a wildly different animal to amphetamine.
You will never see someone zonked out of his mind selling his mouth and ass on the streets for amphetamine. It doesn't happen.
Every time we have an Adderall/amphetamine thread, homosexuals pour in and call everyone that uses amphetamine "tweakers" or "methheads".
You can't tweak on amphetamine. And if you think you can I implore you to try meth or a-PVP and learn WTF "tweaking" really is.
Amphetamine is to methamphetamine what codeine is to heroin.
Jews literally stuffed fentanyl down Americans throats and then controlled their puppets in Congress from cracking down on it. Fentanyl has zero medical value. Scheduling in this country is all backwards and comes from promoting israeli profits and not safety of Americans.
Then ban alcohol too while you're at it.
anything can cause sudden death, you dumb fricking Black person cattle. everything should be over the counter, including things that always cause instant death.
>dysrhythmias
I like how you are implying that long term adderall usage doesn't cause the same damn problem.
Because it's meth and Dr's shouldn't be prescribing it to anyone not even adults.
Your a degenerate frick if you need these.
I studied for 8 hours straight when I tried ritalin. Adderall is even stronger. Imo they should only be used by people with good knowledge on drugs. I used it for the stimulating effects but most abusers use it for the dopamine pleasure effect.
I wanna try meth one day as a pre-workout but don't know where I can get some.
who are you to tell people what they should use it for Abdul?
It’s not meth. It’s an amphetamine but not meth, that the extremely based SS units also used. Adderall is the white mans drug
Come suck my tiny meth dick
Doing meth and having a shriveled baby dick is a glimpse into what its like being Asian.
your dick isn't that much smaller on meth. like 10% maybe. but your entire body is 10% smaller due to the blood vessels everywhere tightening up.
dr's shouldn't even exist, let alone have any power over who does what drugs.
you can add paracetamol in the mix as well
Dank
Pic related
Good to know, thanks, I only take it on weekends so I can get the motivation to code. I take the max dose of 150mg though
I was on Concerta XL
>My problems are just melting away
Get ready for new ones
Ritalin is just slightly stronger than caffeine
explain
currently on concerta as well
I dont' really like it. There's no happy feelings on it, just a sense of feeling inadequate when it wears off
>Why isn't Adderall OTC?
Well anon, it's like this.
In the late-40s and early-50s, women would buy "dexedrine" or "dexxies" and use amphetamine while husband was at work. In the heightened state of arousal these housewives would frick milkmen all across the country.
Politicians and lawyers in government hated their women getting spun on amphetamine and fricking the milkman, so they banned the shit.
Literally that's what happened. Women fricking door-to-door salesmen and milkmen while zooted on speed.
Amphetamine is kind of a harmless drug like nicotine, caffeine, and low-dose alcohol.
It's nothing like meth because it wears off and you can sleep after a half day or so, whereas meth lasts a day and has much much faster come-up. Meth can also be easily smoked whereas speed cannot, as it burns in the pipe.
If you want another amphetamine-type drug to try, try Benzedrex. You'll end up HATING lavender and menthol though if you don't properly use the inhalers.
We have cameras now, shit should change
That sounds cool
lol crazy amphetamine lore
It's true though. Meth was a whole-nother animal entirely. There's a reason meth is more closely associated with crime and societal decay than any other stimulants except for the pyrovalerones(my personal favorite drugs).
Comparing meth to amp is like comparing everclear to wine or Guinness.
Amphetamine is like codeine, to methamphetamine's heroin.
Here, watch this fascinating explanation of the nasty side of meth in Japan-
The japs invented meth BTW, so really meth is IST's drug of choice.
>Meth can also be easily smoked whereas speed cannot, as it burns in the pipe
Idiot
He's right though
That extra methyl lowers the enthalpy of vapourization. Amphetamines degrade before they vapourize, methamphetamines don't.
t. chemist
It is good for fatties and depression, too.
Oh HELL no it's TERRIBLE for depression.
You wanna make your depression worse, do dopaminergic stimulants.
If you wanna help your depression(including the depression after crashing out from amphetamine and other stims), take magnesium supplements, zinc supps, l-tyrosine, and maybe do ONE run on ketamine, DXM(no more than second plateau), or related NMDA antagonists. These supplements and drugs act to reverse dopamine receptor downregulation, one of the primary causes of depression.
>try Benzedrex. You'll end up HATING lavender
holy shit that takes me back. like 14 years ago I soaked the cloth inside one of those inhalers in vodka and drank it. I was full blown fricking zooted. I don't even know what zooted means but I was zooted. I did differential equations homework for 8 hours straight while listening to the same song on a loop. heres the song
Propylhexedrine is equal to d-amphetamine in mental effects. Physically it can be hard as it has some pretty steep peripheral effects. Try IV'ing it and you'll either have a heart attack, or possibly lose a finger or some toes.
But swallow 200mg or so and it passes through the liver gently and comes on good and without hurting your organs and hands/feet.
what are your thoughts on low doses of oral meth? I think most kids who think they're doing adderall but are buying it from dealers are actually doing meth "pressed" pills that look like adderall.
I don't think anyone should use meth unless they have a strong will. It's fantastic stuff, but holy shit it has a double edge to it.
It's not a joke because of its duration in the body. And street meth is particularly bad because it's made via phenylacetone, and when meth is made via P2P you always get a racemic mixture of L-meth and D-meth. D-meth is the only fun kind. L-meth really amps up the tweaking effects because it has an almost exclusive norepinephrine releasing potential. Norepinephrine is the stuff that makes people irrational, aggressive, and sleepless, and that can make people much more unstable.
D-meth is unheard of on the streets now because beaners/russians/chinese prefer the P2P method as it's the most economical.
If you want D-meth you have to either make it yourself using the Birch reduction of ephedrine/pseudo, or get the meth from someone cooking it up like that.
Street meth is also stepped on. If you're lucky you might get 35-40% D-meth, the only good form of the drug. The rest is actual legit trash.
Me? I'm all for it!
Damn, for me I would be listening to this:
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It feels good nevertheless, got my workout in too
as someone who routinely consumes copious amphetamines, I’ve never heard this but it sounds like a completely possible narrative. Give me something to read?
It's a theory of mine.
If you look back in time about the complaints with "dexxies" and "diet pills", it seems to revolve exclusively around housewives taking bottles of the stuff and having "familial problems". Now, to me, knowing speed like I do, this sounds like "it made our wives into horny BPD bawds". Remember in the 50s the idea of loose crazy women was still very much a frowned-upon thing.
The stuff is otherwise such a lightweight drug, especially in pill form, that I can't imagine any other reason to tightly regulate it.
U will always have to lay back the good feelings with bad. The body will always seek balance
because stim abuse eventually fricks ur dopamine receptors next thing u know u are doing anything for dopamine hit
I only do it once a week so I can coode
What does one say to their Dr to get adderall prescription?
You need adhd diagnosis. Or you can convince people who have adderall prescription to sell it to you.
>You need adhd diagnosis. Or you can convince people who have adderall prescription to sell it to you.
got it wihtout a dianosis just lied and said i had started college and felt moronic because im flunking all my quiz because i cant concentrate first gv me bs concert, then adderall and then vyvanse, i much prefer vyvanse as the come down is better and i refuse to take any stim wihtout a 1mg of xanax in me to even things out, but my psy doc was a stupid 80 year old pajeet
Every single psychiatrist I have seen has been an old roastie who doesn't want me to improve.
this is why ive always bought from the street for anything, at least ik im getting what i want and not making appts and jumping through hoops for no reason
It's legitimately easier and safer to get amphetamine from the darknet markets that trying to bullshit a shrink.
Not only can you get as much speed as you want, you can get it as PURE dextro-amphetamine powder without that time-released homosexualry they put in Rx garbage now.
Also, if you get put on speed by a shrink, the government will know. Anytime someone is put onto psychiatric medications in the CSA, the US government is alerted.
The DEA keeps a close watch on this stuff.
Also, you may or may not lose your right to bear arms depending on how white you are and where you live.
This.
The dea is the governments drug dealer pimp. If you get on stimulants or pain killers you are effectively the governments slave from then on. Know that once you become a government slave you will forever be at the mercy of whatever paper pusher your file ends up crossing paths with. The vast majority of people are more profitable dead or stuck in a insane asylum then as a free individual.
Most of the Adderall for sale on the darknets are actually just fake pills pressed with Mexican amphetamine. Nothing like the high quality pharmacy grade Amphetamine I get for $25 from my pharmacy.
Only costs me $160 for a quick 15 minute appointment every 3 months to get refills.
that's pretty based I should start doing that but i don't really care about money sadly
You don't even have to see a doctor in person.
I use ADHD Online and I just had to fill out a questionnaire about my ADHD then had a 30 minute zoom meeting with a doctor about it and now for refills I just have a 15 minute zoom meeting every 3 months.
>Only costs me $160 for a quick 15 minute appointment every 3 months to get refills.
Damn you're lucky.
Correct. If something is found they send you a love letter. I got one when some Modafinil i ordered got flagged. I didn't panic. Just asked for a reship.
During COVID sites were literally throwing prescriptions out like candy. Too many homosexual plebbitors and big tech homos who don’t actually have ADHD abused it to get ahead at work.
anon it's literally amphetamine
>captcha : 00KAY
Nah, make lsd legal I like taking 5ug a day
>not using eph as a pc
What a waste.
>makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
I tried this years ago. Just didn't have the same kick as picrel before the ephedrine ban.
Never tried adderall, don't think I want to.
Ephedrine isn't banned in USA, it's just behind the counter at the pharmacy.
Yeah, broncaid or whatever. Back then I ordered straight ephedrine from Canada and did the ECA stack, just wasn't the same.
I love ephedrine. I buy 500 pills at a time. For me it's the ultimate bigger, faster, stronger substance. I'm surprised the israelites haven't banned it yet.
>I'm surprised the israelites haven't banned it yet.
They have here.
You can't even get 500 tablets of eph or pseudo.
When you try to buy either at the pharmacy, you get ID'd and run through a background check, and you have to sign paperwork. I buy 120mg "slow release" generic pseudo and crush them up in a mortar, then carefully dissolve in hot water. The pills are full of trash designed to stop people from easily extracting the alkaloid. Gums mostly.
I boof the pseudoephedrine water for a good kick in the ass to get work done.
All natural adderall is available OTC in Oriental countries like China. It is a herb known as Ma Huang. You can drink it like tea (delicious) or get it as a legal vape system from Dr San.
I've heard in thailand there's some chicken broth shit with speed, lol
>You can drink it like tea (delicious)
it's disgusting
or chinks sended weeds and fooled me
either way, I didn't really experience a lot of stimulation with ma huang tea, if any at all.
>legal vape system from Dr San.
How? I heard he died.
>makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
That's called Stacker energy and Adderall isn't prescribed to people like you that don't need it. Just cause you get high off it doesn't change that.
Without my Dexamphetamine Sulphate I find it really hard to function, I get overly anxious, fearful and have no energy and never leave the house.
I had to get diagnosed as an Adult and it has completely changed my life for the positive I feel normal for the first time in my life.
I used to be on Elvanse until it was really hard to get a hold of in the UK.
I'm about to go this route. Coworkers gave me adderall one time when I was younger so I could prove I wasn't a narc and were amazed that it had almost no effect on me after I tried it. They kinda implied maybe I actually needed it and only in adulthood have I realized mental health depression etc is real and I think they were right lol. I already tried basic ssri's and fricking hated them and every other treatment, holistic or otherwise.
It was like I drank a gallon of cold brew with no side effects and got a bunch of really good news. No intoxicated feeling.
Before my diagnosis I was spending Hundreds of pounds every year on Modafinil which was helping me but now I have Dexamphetamine I no longer need to buy Modafinil so it works out cheaper for me.
I am on Venlafaxine XR which is an SNRI, maybe try one of them as well if you are still having problems.
you stupid bastard, you just described the experience that explains why people do these substances. What is commonly referred to as a euphoric/stimulated/up feeling, the ‘YEAH’ feeling. It just turned out you actually were a narc (on the inside)
>I realized mental health depression etc is real
no it isn't you dumb motherfricker.
Our understanding of the mind is still in its infancy. Diagnoses of disorders like ADD are likely being made in error. You're probably more or less normal, well within the range of normal variation, but because psychology is pseudo-science and these diagnoses are not made on a scientific basis, your lemming normalgay dr decided that question-and-answer is a sound enough method of collecting data to prescribe you speed. If you're taking Adderall because you like it, knock yourself out, but don't pretend this shit is scientific or medically sound.
The thing is, Western food is basically poison. All the anti-bacterial shit they spray on crops kills all our good gut bacteria as well.
Carnivore diet is an extreme change, but I can tell you from experience, you will see noticeable changes.
Our guts and minds are linked and food plays a massive part in how we feel and act.
>from www.medline.com
>Interestingly, your gut contains 500 million neurons, which are connected to your brain through nerves in your nervous system ( 5 ). The vagus nerve is one of the biggest nerves connecting your gut and brain. It sends signals in both directions ( 6 , 7 ).Jul 31, 2023
Where does the saying "gut instinct" originate? -im asking, because idk.
Also, you could have parasites (no bullshit).
>Wikipedia
>Some parasites alter host behavior by infecting neurons in the host's central nervous system. The host's central nervous system responds to the parasite as it would to any other infection. The hallmarks of such response include local inflammation and the release of chemicals such as cytokines.
>All the anti-bacterial shit they spray on crops kills all our good gut bacteria as well.
It has little to do with this. If it did then a carnivore diet would be even worse because all those poisons accumulate in higher steps of the food chain and meat animals are a higher step.
The difference is that a carnivore diet is primarily about fat and protein while the regular western diet is all about carbs.
I will definitely acknowledge that I don't know why the carnivore diet works, it just does. You're right though, once ~~*they*~~ introduced the food pyramid, being carb-centric, America turned fat as frick.
Also seed oils are terrible and, big surprise, ~~*they*~~ are responsible for that as well.
From www.verywellhealth.com
>Hypercytokinemia is the medical term for cytokine storm. It refers to the overproduction of cytokines, certain proteins that send messages between cells. When the body loses control of cytokine production, their excessive numbers cause an internal response that resembles many infectious and non-infectious diseases.Jun 6, 2023
This formula worked great for me
Yohimbine:hordenine:synephrine:phenthylamine
1:2:4:8
Test
because morons like you abuse it.
>tfw just had 150mg of modafinil and a monster
Let's go boys.
israeli doctors gatekeeping drugs
Because moralgays are brainwashed by anti-drug propaganda. They think every drug will instantly destroy your life.
That’s why they banned ephedra in the early 2000s just before adderall Was released on the market as new adhd medication. They have very similar chemistry but pharmaceutical companies can’t patent a plant.
ECA stack is good for working out, its no substitute for adderall. Adderall is a CNS stimulant. Ephedrine is a PNS stimulant with little CNS activity. So it's benefits are more physical than mental.
bump
Go to any bar or club where med or law school students hang about.
i just started taking this shit at 35 years old. i stopped taking it for a week because I have deep shame and thought I was just lazy. no, I have this shit and I think its brain damage from trauma.
maybe also need better diet like cut out seed oils 100%
I did. I did everything possible. This was my last resort.
Adderall. Mental trauma causes physical trauma. Trauma messes up your frontal lobe (executive function) which is one way to get ADHD. We live in a trauma-based liked society that uses mental, emotional, and physical trauma against the people for profit and control.
I'm in the same boat as you. Was dangling off a cliff at 3 years old and some other stuff kek
thats a very aussie thing to do. my dad is Australian and a gambler and would come to my room as a child telling me we'll be homeless every other time he went to the horse track kek..
Well that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
I got rammed by a ram when I was like 3, lol. I do have ADHD symptoms. Now I gotta wonder.
Idk bro. I’ve had ADD since I can remember and I had no past head trauma.
This trauma shit is just bullshit. It's some made up garbage so that people can feel good about themselves for being fragile. Lots of people with no trauma have ADHD.
>this shit?
What shit?
>trauma
WTF does trauma have to do with Adderall moron?
>just lazy
That's a freeze response
You don't want to get hurt again
You may benefit from studying psychology and philosophy, fren. That's how I moved past my trauma
it is a freeze response. i am looking into that as well as deep-rooted shame.
its not addictive. i would know. maybe addictive to people who have a properly working frontal lobe.
fricking web browser auto-correct israelited without my permission.
You're not lazy or brain damaged. Addictive chemicals are addictive for a reason. If I took steroids I would be stronger. Does that make me an athlete?
>If I took steroids I would be stronger. Does that make me an athlete?
yes
Yes.
those all muscle repair peptides? I know the bpc-157 and tb-500, what are the rest?
Ipamorelin/CJC1250, it's an HGH booster peptide
you notice a difference?
Yeah definitely, I also take Regains HGH support and Alpha Test supplements.
After I'm finished roiding I will only use Ipamorelin/CJC-1295 to keep my muscle mass
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You seem like you would know this. I just started test cyp from a quack dr. What's best injection method? I've been using center thigh
I actually use pins so I've been injecting in the shoulder and arms.
Not supposed to use pins but I do anyway, it's safer
Good to know
Frick that shit. Pure nicotine is what you need.
because subhumans and Black folk will use it to get high
it used to be OTC before clown world, when we had high trust society and people could be reasonably trusted not to misuse or abuse it
>it used to be OTC before clown world, when we had high trust society and people could be reasonably trusted not to misuse or abuse it
irresponsible children society & appeal to authority fallacy
Clowned out
Where you getting ephedrine in the us?
any pharmacy behind the counter
https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-asthma-relief-tablets-24-ct-prodid-824229
NOPE-
The US government will never let you have ephedrine unless you show ID for it or buy it on the black market, or grow ephedra and extract it yourself from the plants.
yeah you have to show ID for it.... what's your point? any adult can buy it at any pharmacy
You have to sign paperwork and you go onto a government watchlist. All List-1 chemicals are like this. It's why you can't buy methylamine or safrole from the internet in the US unless you're a DEA-registered company/institution.
Buy from Europe.
#
It's legal in Europe?
I'm heading there then.
Also heading to Thailand for OTC steroids.
Frick the US
You can't get OTC steroids in Thailand idiot, it's not 1990
>Buy from Europe.
As an American it is illegal for our government to search our mail without probable cause and a warrant. If we order something from overseas it would be subject to search for any reason.
Yeah. That's why your vendor will pack it so that the feds can't find the shit unless they're already clued in.
I've been buying drugs from Asia and Europe since the Silk Road days.
I buy mine from a Scandinavian company online
Canadian government doesn't find shit. Maybe the American is tighter.
>www.kiwidrug.com
Who doesn't have ID?
6 tablets of Walgreens ephedrine, a Rockstar and 2 aspirin
I miss white crosses so much.
>had to make a makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin a
How?
There's a shady Exxon/head shop down the road from me that's owned by either Indians or Pakis (can't tell) that sells knock-off Adderall and Xanax. I've never tired it. They cost like $10/pill.
>I had to make a makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin and I feel so fricking good and productive.
I miss Stacker 2, but yes I do agree it should be OTC. My weight and productivity problems would cease to exist
>weight
Black person I take 30mg Adderall extended release plus 15 mg short acting pills, twice a day and I have lost 100 pounds
Damn! Imagine if we could get white girls to chomp these down!
Most I know do. I’m 43 though. Been taking them on and off for 25 years. I can’t keep a job without them though sadly.
>I can’t keep a job without them though sadly
i feel your pain. same age as you, been on stims on and off since i was like 12. i quit my job 6 months ago so i could detox and get healthy, but started to get low on $ so got another job.
called my doc for a refill but apparently there's a massive stims shortage? anyway, i lasted 4 days before i remembered how much i fricking hate people and just straight up walked out the door during a teams meeting. last job only paid $70k/year, this one paid $150k/year - fml
fml yeah i know that feeling "I dont have time for this shit I am out". i had 2 businesses i left because of that.
>quit
Must be nice brother, I’ve gotten fired from them all because I’m too moronic to function without them and due to the shortage I was a wreck. Adderall makes all the difference in the world to me though
Where do you buy ephedrine?
Anyone against this is a shill. Anyone that's concerned with the addiction problems of others is a coward. Imagine never procrastinating again and your life becoming in order overnight. Who would try and keep you from this?
It literally gives you mania and taxes liver/kidney's. You think your brain is operating at warp 10 but in reality your brain is just saying "yes" faster. Pharmaceuticals like adderall is what is driving progressive extremist politics
>You think your brain is operating at warp 10 but in reality your brain is just saying "yes" faster.
t. MD Ramirez
>ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
how did you mix it?
It's literally a stack that isn't unheard of IST.
I was on Adderall for years. Id start my morning with 80mgs and a cup of coffee. Id be jacked as hell. It really messed up your brain after a while. It makes you a coomer to the point youll be jacking off in a Walmart parking lot with binoculars. It burns out your dopamine so much you can't enjoy anything without it unless you're drinking. It'll make you an alcoholic too, and you'll get violent as hell out of nowhere.
I don't recommend it.
I keep filling my methylphenidate but I only take half of a pill and not everyday, I am stockpiling maybe i'll start a child soldier army and hop them up on pharmameth for maximum warlord score.
Damn i miss the days of railing worm after work and playing LoL.
Don't @ me walmart Black person
I'm just tryna be your fren.
You can come over but if anyone asks my mom made me hang out wiht you.
how can i get adderall or something similar in japan? i could use it sometimes . energy drinks are good too but not the same i miss adderall. vyvanse was peak but adderall was the best
best place to find adderral is colleges/universities just ask around, lots of students sell it at outrageous prices.
although it's easier and cheaper to find meth off the street, the high is 1000x better. You can just put 5-10mg in your water/coffee if you are too much of a pussy to smoke it.
i am in japan and i cant do that. i can buy it online basically
sorry can't help you then I live in vancouver, here our government literally gives us hard drugs for free its called "safe supply" lmao
but if you do buy it online you'll find a lot of them are scam sites on the dark web that just steal your btc so be aware.
They can open your packages, but not letters, in Japan. Am I correct? Also best place to get yasai? I kmow there are jp darknet chans but that's all I know.
they did open my packages from the states. i would want something from online, like a store. i might just take some supplements like ephedra if that is available.
i took adderall and stuff for about 10 years on and off, so i kind of already have rewired my brain to focus without it if that makes sense. my son can sit on my lap and try to grab all my stuff including pens and i can still work without it now. now i am moving assets to japan so i want to trade on binance and shit, i have to learn that. i already have algorithms and stuff trading in the usa, so i have to replicate that setup for forex, japan and cryptocurrency so i kind of want soemthing if possible.
if not i will get some more supplements if my wife will buy them for me from the store. she already took away my energy shots so i can only take them 1 at a time by request.
>i might just take some supplements like ephedra if that is available.
In the US they sell it without a prescription out of the pharmacy. You just have to show ID and promise you won't make meth out of it. Brand names are Bronkaid and Primatine.
this is why america rocks...you have a stim drug call BONKaid lol
you let your wife control your drug use? mine gets an few from mine when I get them, but she doesn't even know the amounts I get
I have 2 whole bottles of it that I haven't taken. Out of curiosity, what would you be willing to pay for them?
It's Over
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all neets should be given mandatory adderall so they realize they're being selfish and work for minimum wage for everyone's benefit
>WHY CANT I BE ZONKED OUT OF MY MIND 24/7 AND DESTROY MY BRAIN WITHOUT HAVING TO LIE TO A PSYCHIATRIST?!!?!?!
>Life is so UNFAAAAAAIR
I only use it once a week so I can code on the weekend. Otherwise the effect wouldn't be as potent.
I'm only using it to complete a project or two.
This, if the goyim had side businesses on the weekend they would all be financially successful, israelites want you miserable from lack of accomplishment and tired on your days off
Big Pharma
Viagra should be OTC.
Just get it cheap from India. Tadalafil is superior anyways. Just cut a 20MG pill in half and you're good to go.
I'm probably around your ma's age so it could get awkward.
methamphetamine and amphetamine are completely different!
meth gives high + stim
amp just gives stim
genuine street amp, and not meth, is same as adderall
adderall causes Black folk to commit murders
look it up
>causes
Black folk gonna nig
FTFY
Just smoke some green crack strains of cannabis, I like jack herer
There's a "right hand path" and a "left hand path" when it comes to increasing your performance. A left hand path would be to take Adderall etc. Yes it works. The right hand path takes years but finally you ascend. It involves meditating to improve your mind and soul, and living a perfectly healthy lifestyle to improve your body, which circularly also improves your mind. This path only works if your body is not already compromised beyond repair. It gives you a calm stress-free unceasing competence, that never crashes. Few can achieve it and will claim it is fake.
Some will say "yea but it doesn't hold a candle to adderall", but they didn't go far enough down the path (or can't due to compromised body), so they didn't "ascend", which is a buzzword in this case to describe naturally exceeding the level given by adderall.
You don’t even need to meditate. It’s called doing the work. Whatever it is just stop moaning and do it. All this shit about taking speed or meditating to be able to perform some task is moronic. Just perform the fricking task.
The meditating was to make me love my work instead of hating it. I meditated on all the reasons I should want to work instead of being lazy like before.
This is what literally everyone says when they first take stimulants.
See you in a couple of years when you’ll be a degenerate moron.
Drugs are cool because they're alternative and rebellious. Taking speed to study for a frickin university exam? What's the point, frick that
idk, i was high as shit all 4 years of college between oxys and addys, and i got straight As along with having a blast.
the shitty part was realizing after all that that uni is fricking worthless
>Taking speed to study for a frickin university exam? What's the point
To pass to get a respectable career.
that also depends on what you go for though. if you get a lib arts degree in lesbian dance study, you still arent getting a respectable career
I guess its who you know.
You gotta check the boxes, even if they don't visually apply to you what are they gonna do? Say you aren't black?!
>im sitting here with 120mg of perc in me right now
Holy shit! What you doing after you popped a bean?
checked
>who you know
true
>What you doing
editing videos, chilling with wifey, same old
>hardcore addict who doesn't want to quit
kek. a hardcore addict would have sold their kids toys and not gone grocery shopping or paid bills to support their habit. im none of those things. i enjoy opiates, but my kids arent going to suffer or not have a roof over their heads for it. i dont even do them enough to withdraw when im not doing them. try again homosexual
>to get a respectable career.
nonononono, those are reserved for diversity & inclusion
I'm doing it to build a website and make a game
Just feels cool that I can pop a blue pill and the next thing I know the technical aspect projects are finished and I can smoke weed and be creative with them. I'm more of a creative type and this stuff bores me and does not inspire me so the pill does wonders innit.
Or at least, I would if every single psychiatrist wasn't a roastie these days. Hell, maybe I'll keep trying
I live in a soulless shithole with no nature to inspire me and need something to get me through this depressing time
I'm going to Japan after my trip in Thailand where I finished roiding and will be cleaning up there, it's all part of a process and it makes life more enjoyable for me this way
>Taking speed to study for a frickin university exam? What's the point, frick that
Artificial solutions to artificial problems.
The "education" industry is a scam.
Be careful, anon. Just remember... It is by the amphetamines that thoughts acquire speed, the body acquires dependency, the dependency becomes a warning. It is by will alone that you set your mind in motion.
If you can’t live clean you will suffer in the end
no, you just need to know your limits, and not let your body become physically dependent
cope
checked
how is that cope? know your limits, dont sell your kids toys for a fricking taste, and dont let yourself NEED it
The last thing /misc/ users need is stimulants.
gotta be up all night to connect those pieces of the next israelite plot.
youre right though, and a lot of us can do it without the dr approved meth
just to to the psychiatrist with fake adhd symtoms
They're ALL uppity roasties
Not a single chill dude
Women pushed them out of the field
Where can I get ephedrine at? Isn't it illegal?
Where’d you get the ephedrine??
if you need to rely on a drug to accomplish things you have bigger problems
>NO FUN ALLOWED
It just boosts performance, chud. There's no "need"
It's just helpful
Unlike you
I can either be a person who needs to rely on drugs to get shit done, and do drugs and get shit done, or I can be that same person, without drugs, so nothing gets done.
how does one make ephedrine in minecraft? i've heard it's easy
That's what is known in the /fit world as a fat burner stack. It's been around for decades. Similar to Ripped Fuel.
Generation Kill Rioped Fuel
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I'd pay you big money to teach me as I don't have a prescription but need to level up at work
why cant you do it on your own willpower?
>I had to make a makeshift version with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
what the frick. ive been trying to get adderall for years but homosexual doctors keep refusing me, is it really just as easy as combining 3 ingredients?
It isn't the same thing. Adderall will give you a stronger effect and you probably can't buy ephedrine anymore. Jim not sure if pseudoephedrine works.
I took it for several years
Yeah it feels great, but i'm wary of what chronically overclocking dopamine, vasoconstriction, and heart strain will do
There's no free lunch, be careful with drugs
because it's straight up amphetamine speed
Oh man, Did you try it. Weren't we talking about this a few weeks ago?
Yeah, it's epic. Thanks for the advice, so good. The accomplishment from coding and lifted plus the effect was a legit high
the problem is it quickly stops working. and then there's days or weeks depending on how long and hard you used it where you're much worse.
it's not free energy, it's just a loan.
Good to hear fren, glad it helped.
>ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin
I'll try that.
OG work out trick anon.
stimulants are feel more or less the same it just depends on the dosage
no, amphetamine is nothing like phenidates or fluorinated/halogenated amines.
they are very different.
i can't imagine any reason to regulate anything.
adderall is not prescribed in germany only ritalin
shame really but better then nothing i guess
ritalin is nothing like amphetamine. amphetamine is pretty much harmless in reasonable doses, or reasonable intervals between unreasonable doses, in a healthy person.
there is no safe dosage of ritalin. it is completely neurotoxic and will create cumalitive brain damage every single time it is taken.
im pretty sure it was the other way around no?
Regular amphetamine isn’t neurotoxic. It’s METHamphetamine that is because it crosses the blood brain barrier more easily.
ritalin really that bad?
Its prescribed to a ton of people and the effects are good
I know a guy who got prescribed Ritalin and after 5 years on that he’s basically a drooling moron. Like hes literally in a wheelchair. I’m on 30mg of adderall a day for the same amount of time and I’m fine.
well i got put on the shit as a kid so if anything it did its damage back then.
you sadly cant get adderall in germany i actually need the stuff, altough I try to take as little as possible generally
So thats were im at currently, i dont like it but i need it
ritalin isn't an amphetamine you fricking paki
learn to read.
it is a stimulant thats simillar and the only you get in germany
ritalin isn't an amphetamine you fricking paki
seems like you're braindamaged by it
i never claimed it was you moronic Black person are you unable to read a single sentence?
so not only are you braindamaged but it's given you aggression issues, as well? sorry that your parents put you on that junk
Yep, Ritalin is the most documented and studied treatment of ADHD, and is considered to be of low toxicity.
Phenidates are the safest stimulants. They actually have neuroprotective properties as well.
I miss ethylphenidate as much as I miss MXE. Ethylphenidate is the best stimulant I ever used. Easy to use for 1-2 days and drop it, it's not really "horny" like meth and cathinones are, it doesn't cause overheating nearly as bad, and it was cheap.
>everyone has the right to buy dangerous drugs for cheap at any time they want.
I agree, however I'm also prepared to live in a world where that's possible.
Most people can't fathom such a situation and the challenges it would bring.
I believe every man, woman, and child over 8 should be required to carry loaded pistols. Stopping-power pistols too, not that 9mm bullshit.
>it's not really "horny" like meth and cathinones are
If I’m not jacking off for 18 hours straight then I’m not doing it. Simple as
Oh you can definitely do that on ethylphenidate, but unlike with meth or a-PVP, it won't force your mind to think about sexual things. You can take it, and get shit done for a couple days, sleep it off, and feel fine.
Size of the round isn't as important as its speed. Energy goes up with speed exponentially.
9mm is a lady caliber.
anyone that has an opinion about calibres like you do (lol 9mm caturday spork!) is automatically a basic b***h incel
the stuff is definetely addictive and probably not good for you
you're a moronic fricking homosexual talking about 'stopping power'. 9mm is huge. it's nearly twice the size of the deadliest cartridges in human history and nearly 30% larger than the second deadliest cartridges in human history. i've actually shot someone so shut up. there are 9mm cartridges that have taken down god damned cape buffalo.
phenidates cause brain damage - not maybe, not sometimes, not if you use too much, all phenidates cause brain damage at any dose. cathinones are even worse
I haven't seen proof of that, but then again I'm not some all-knowing homosexual.
I'll defer to your point out of caution. Because why not?
It's a lady caliber. Also, good night. Thread's dying.
'a lady calibre' <- incel talk by a little pussy who idolizes guns because they represent his circumcized masculinity
i've actually shot someone and the police never found out and I carry guns in places i'm not allowed to. guns don't mean shit to me, at least not the trivia that you fatherless cucks obsess over.
>Phenidates are the safest stimulants. They actually have neuroprotective properties as well.
Yeah, its the slow acting ones that are most commonly used, and safest.
Its not addictive either, and can easily just cut it off for a few days if your body gets tired, so overall 10/10 drug
no. phenidates are neurotoxic at any dose, for any duration. amphetamines are borderline harmless unless you use them a lot, for a long time.
everyone has the right to buy dangerous drugs for cheap at any time they want.
xanax is just another drug. drugs are all the same. it's nothing to me. you have a xanax problem. i've taken six footballs and drank half a bottle of booze and nothing happened. they're not addictive to me. they're harmless to me. i've had a couple dozen xanax in a bottle for three years now.
methamphetamine and amphetamine have no difference whatsoever as far as how they're metabolized. one just takes 4-5 more enzymes to be discharged.
ritalin is incredibly far more toxic than amphetamines or methamphetamine. any use at all causes brain damage. adhd doesn't even fricking exist and if it did ritalin wouldn't fricking treat it.
it might be fun but it's poison that will permenantly damage anyone who takes it. dr's have no fricking idea what they're doing. they are literally clueless at best.
the real question is is phenidate worse then alcohol.
Because I used to use alcohol in moderate doses for better focus and concentration and that shit isnt exactly good for you either
stop using drugs for things besides getting high or you will get fricked up.
>the real question is is phenidate worse then alcohol.
Almost no drugs are worse than alcohol, lol.
Its literally in the same tier as heroin in terms of damage potential, both for personal use and the environment around them.
Alcoholic withdrawal is also fricking terrifying
Some drugs are legitimately deangerous.
Benzodiazepines are far and away the worst class of drugs in the world.
NOTHING can destroy your life and the lives of people around you like fricking Xanax.
>extremely addictive
>no, really, this shit will destroy you
>makes you lose track of time, black out, do dumb shit by removing all anxiety and inhibition
REMEMBER some amount of anxiety is there for a reason, it's to stop you from acting like a moron.
>permanently damages neural pathways
>withdrawals can last YEARS
Jordan Peterson is a prime example of what happens when you take that shit. You go from wise to insufferable and moronic.
>take adderall 20mg xr and 10mg ir daily
>barely feel anything
i really am dead inside
OTC stims would probably destroy a country when you factor in how easy it is to access porn
this is fake moron shit that only a dumb motherfricking idiot would ever even read
No, you are just an idiot who have your views formed by "MUH WAR ON DRUGS" and braindead anti-vaxx propaganda.
you don't know shit about me, you're an NPC first of all for even believing all that shit, you're super gullible, a real crowd follower. you're really not very individual are you, you just believe frickin anything you get told, i bet you've never had sex.
>Harm to others
Boozechuds keep winning
Yeah, Alcohol is literally THE WORST drug.
Causes people to get aggressive, fall down fricking stairs, crash their cars, die from their vomit etc etc.
And its incredibly toxic, especally if consumed regularly in large quantities.
im chill as frick on alcohol
Yeah, but you probably know people who get alternate personalities and go full moron when they drink.
Either way, using almost any other drugs is better and less harmful for everyone.
>less harmful
you're such a fricking little b***h holy shit lol
Excuse me but there were no Black person milkmen and door-to-door salesmen in the 1950s.
It's funny that's the first thing you thought of though. Mutt's law indeed!