Because it's mainly compound movements which use stabilizers.
And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics, unlike fatasfatass powershitter who can't do a single pullup.
It's not calisthenics when you add weight. You're just doing weight training.
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moron of the day award
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Do you consider back squats calisthenics or weight training? Lol
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The squat is a bodyweight movement. It doesn't matter if you add 50 or 500 pounds, or none at all. It's still calisthenics. People that are strong with squats are strong with everything else for this reason. Same goes for pullups and dips.
They're still bodyweight exercises. The body is moving through space and the core is being worked with every stabilizer muscle. That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup. The pullup is objectively superior. Weight lifters ironically claim the squat is the best thing to improve ALL lifts and they're right. It's a bodyweight movement with added weight. Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.
>They're still bodyweight exercises.
No. They're loaded movements. >That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup.
No. They're still different movements, but they're both loaded. >It's a bodyweight movement with added weight
It's not a bodyweight movement when you add weight. >Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.
Now it's clear that you have an emotional bias against being labeled as a lifter.
No, its called gymnastics training. Even bodybuilding classical ones used to train with calisthenics a lot when those were the best options. Only morons that took into the sports in the 90s thought calisthenics was useless for building muscles.
Firstly, I am a firm believer that calisthenics is fantastic for building muscle. I include pure bodyweight movements as a staple of my training. Gymnastics training =/= pure calisthenics if it involves weights, but that's not a bad thing. Loaded resistance (weight) training and calisthenics are complimentary.
moron of the day award
The squat is a bodyweight movement. It doesn't matter if you add 50 or 500 pounds, or none at all. It's still calisthenics. People that are strong with squats are strong with everything else for this reason. Same goes for pullups and dips.
Does the barbell become part of your body? No its an external load.
>weighted upper body calisthenics
some of the most godly lifts >weighted lower body calisthenics
extremely cringe. NOBODY has strong legs from calisthenics
you cant ever stroke your micropenis for 1 minute without getting a heart attack lardass
And you'd die under my superior form after I'm done using you, because you wouldn't have the strength to push my corpse off of yourself.
You'd die of dehydration with my wiener in your ass unless someone found you.
manlets that weight 160-180 deadlift 4plate. These threads have always been dyel cope > uh uh I can see my abs therefore im calisthetics and not a powerlifter! HUH b***h 1 plate thats too much
Go watch goatis more to cope being lazy spergs
Only guys who can do holds like op pic, have to be both lean AND strong enough to do it, they couldnt even do it in case they arent
There are strength athletes with same kind of aesthetics, but there are also many fat guys, because anybody can lay on bench and lift some weight, its even easier if you are fat
Because calisthenics require you to be lean. Any fatass can permabulk and deadlift 500lbs in a year. It takes actual skill to be able to move your own bodyweight.
high levels of lactate have been shown to induce endogenous hormounes such as testosterone and gh. you cant get that with low volume high intensity training
you are wrong none of that does anything to improve body composition
there have been studies where subjects were injected with lactate and 0 body composition changes took place, which makes sense if you understand what causes muscle growth and fat loss
i would go as far as to say that makes no sense according to the literature
if you increase your gh levels, i.e., literally growth hormone, that is going to stimulate muscle mass growth. not only that but gh mediates insuline like growth factors, the most anabolic of hormones
now clearly if youre not causing myofilamental damage enough the growth is going to be minimal
Because it's mainly compound movements which use stabilizers.
And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics, unlike fatasfatass powershitter who can't do a single pullup.
None
Calisthenics barely develop any muscle at all
Powerfatters aren't people
>And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics, unlike fatasfatass powershitter who can't do a single pullup.
This.
so the best way to develop muscles is instead of doing exercises with free weights just using machines?
Weighted calisthenics.
>Weighted calisthenics.
That's just weight training.
No, it's basic calisthenics with added weight.
It's not calisthenics when you add weight. You're just doing weight training.
moron of the day award
Do you consider back squats calisthenics or weight training? Lol
The squat is a bodyweight movement. It doesn't matter if you add 50 or 500 pounds, or none at all. It's still calisthenics. People that are strong with squats are strong with everything else for this reason. Same goes for pullups and dips.
They're still bodyweight exercises. The body is moving through space and the core is being worked with every stabilizer muscle. That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup. The pullup is objectively superior. Weight lifters ironically claim the squat is the best thing to improve ALL lifts and they're right. It's a bodyweight movement with added weight. Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.
You kind of sound small and weak
you sound fat and weak
Concession accepted.
>Weight lifters ironically claim the squat is the best thing to improve ALL lifts and they're right
kek cause it’s true
>They're still bodyweight exercises.
No. They're loaded movements.
>That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup.
No. They're still different movements, but they're both loaded.
>It's a bodyweight movement with added weight
It's not a bodyweight movement when you add weight.
>Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.
Now it's clear that you have an emotional bias against being labeled as a lifter.
No, its called gymnastics training. Even bodybuilding classical ones used to train with calisthenics a lot when those were the best options. Only morons that took into the sports in the 90s thought calisthenics was useless for building muscles.
Firstly, I am a firm believer that calisthenics is fantastic for building muscle. I include pure bodyweight movements as a staple of my training. Gymnastics training =/= pure calisthenics if it involves weights, but that's not a bad thing. Loaded resistance (weight) training and calisthenics are complimentary.
Does the barbell become part of your body? No its an external load.
>rings
inferior to regular bars
t. never used rings
And free weights are inferior to (smith) machines, right.
>weighted upper body calisthenics
some of the most godly lifts
>weighted lower body calisthenics
extremely cringe. NOBODY has strong legs from calisthenics
read the fine print
Why do you think machines were invented in teh first place?
>muh aesthetic
What is this cope lmao
All this to self-justify why a powerlifter chad could rape you unopposed if he so desired
You won't do shit lmfao
Not unless you post some pics for me, pretty boy
And you'd die under my superior form after I'm done using you, because you wouldn't have the strength to push my corpse off of yourself.
You'd die of dehydration with my wiener in your ass unless someone found you.
I'm getting a erection
Stop that. I'm at work
Aesthetics will always triumph of blobs of fat
Saying that bodybuilding>calisthenics
you cant ever stroke your micropenis for 1 minute without getting a heart attack lardass
A guy with a six pack doing 10 pullups will mog a 20%+ BF powershitter DLing 4+ pl8 100% of the time.
manlets that weight 160-180 deadlift 4plate. These threads have always been dyel cope
> uh uh I can see my abs therefore im calisthetics and not a powerlifter! HUH b***h 1 plate thats too much
Go watch goatis more to cope being lazy spergs
Being obese is never okay tho
>enters aesthetics thread
>complains people are talking about aesthetics
>a powerlifter chad could rape you unopposed
He'd gass out after 2 pumps. Also, can't rape what you can't outrun fatass.
>OINK OINK OINK!
Didn't ask
There goes IST making things gay out of nowhere again
>And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics
skill issue. use bulking to progressive overload the basic moves
>zero
>zero
>zero
>zero
jesus
So this... is the power of the world's strongest man.
Is problem isn't strength. His core strength might be weak, but like all weight lifters he's probably just overweight.
>can't do single pull up
Apologize
this idiot thought the bar was the point and not the handle height.
0 reps + kipping lmao.
chicken
legs
chicken legs
they're more aesthetic because they are all very lean
Two major reasons:
1. You're forced to stay lean if you want to do anything past beginner movements
2. A lot of the major skills recruit muscles in your core that lifters usually miss.
Only guys who can do holds like op pic, have to be both lean AND strong enough to do it, they couldnt even do it in case they arent
There are strength athletes with same kind of aesthetics, but there are also many fat guys, because anybody can lay on bench and lift some weight, its even easier if you are fat
Also, there's nothing impressive about a fat strong guy.
That's wrong though.
closed chain movements require much more stabilization, so you end up working many more muscles doing calisthenics than weight lifting.
You have to go out of your way and do 'functional' lifting to develop a body like those that are developed with calisthenics.
Because calisthenics require you to be lean. Any fatass can permabulk and deadlift 500lbs in a year. It takes actual skill to be able to move your own bodyweight.
i see theres a bunch of broscientists in this thread
They aren't. They're just leaner then most weight loss since fat makes the exercise harder.
They are not, muscles are muscles. The thing that determines how aesthetic you look is body fat level and muscle insertions.
You should be doing both
What’s going on big guy?
extra weight makes calisthenics harder
Leanness + compound movements which build more msucles than curl bros.
Because they are more efficient
Peak male performance is also peak aesthetics
I don't have a fancy floor to drag my feet on during an exercise.
>black people when cops tell them to get on the floor
high volume = more lactic acid = more muscle definition
Is the lactic acid what carves the muscle striations like an irrigation channel?
You don't even know what lactic acid is.
Hint: it's actually called lactate and doesn't do what you think it does.
yes it does
high levels of lactate have been shown to induce endogenous hormounes such as testosterone and gh. you cant get that with low volume high intensity training
you are wrong none of that does anything to improve body composition
there have been studies where subjects were injected with lactate and 0 body composition changes took place, which makes sense if you understand what causes muscle growth and fat loss
i would go as far as to say that makes no sense according to the literature
if you increase your gh levels, i.e., literally growth hormone, that is going to stimulate muscle mass growth. not only that but gh mediates insuline like growth factors, the most anabolic of hormones
now clearly if youre not causing myofilamental damage enough the growth is going to be minimal
Didn't read the thread, but I hope nobody is implying that this guy is natty.
Because there's more to the human body than muscles and holding a pose for 5 minutes isn't going to hit everything.
Its just some 50kg manlet with a pump. If you saw him irl you wouldnt know he worked out or did calisthenics
im under the impression most IST posters are fat and jealous
Human flag isn't that hard if you're not fat or tall. I got there months before my first full front lever. You just need
>practice a couple months
>not be fat
>not be tall
You actually need long-ish limbs for it which are strong enough to hold your bodyweight without snapping, genetics.
This homie not natty. Look at his shoulders and bicep veins