why muscles developed in calisthenics are more aesthetic than in strenght training?

why muscles developed in calisthenics are more aesthetic than in strenght training?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's mainly compound movements which use stabilizers.
    And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics, unlike fatasfatass powershitter who can't do a single pullup.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      None
      Calisthenics barely develop any muscle at all

      Powerfatters aren't people

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics, unlike fatasfatass powershitter who can't do a single pullup.
      This.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      so the best way to develop muscles is instead of doing exercises with free weights just using machines?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weighted calisthenics.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Weighted calisthenics.
          That's just weight training.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's basic calisthenics with added weight.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's not calisthenics when you add weight. You're just doing weight training.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                moron of the day award

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you consider back squats calisthenics or weight training? Lol

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The squat is a bodyweight movement. It doesn't matter if you add 50 or 500 pounds, or none at all. It's still calisthenics. People that are strong with squats are strong with everything else for this reason. Same goes for pullups and dips.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            They're still bodyweight exercises. The body is moving through space and the core is being worked with every stabilizer muscle. That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup. The pullup is objectively superior. Weight lifters ironically claim the squat is the best thing to improve ALL lifts and they're right. It's a bodyweight movement with added weight. Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              You kind of sound small and weak

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                you sound fat and weak

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Concession accepted.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Weight lifters ironically claim the squat is the best thing to improve ALL lifts and they're right
              kek cause it’s true

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >They're still bodyweight exercises.
              No. They're loaded movements.
              >That's like saying lat (fat) pulldowns are the same as pullups just because you added weight to a pullup.
              No. They're still different movements, but they're both loaded.
              >It's a bodyweight movement with added weight
              It's not a bodyweight movement when you add weight.
              >Weight lifters are only strong at lifting weights and suck in actual fights or lifts. You care too much about mass when true strength comes from the nervous system and your genetics anyway. Any fatass can sit on a bench and move weight.
              Now it's clear that you have an emotional bias against being labeled as a lifter.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, its called gymnastics training. Even bodybuilding classical ones used to train with calisthenics a lot when those were the best options. Only morons that took into the sports in the 90s thought calisthenics was useless for building muscles.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Firstly, I am a firm believer that calisthenics is fantastic for building muscle. I include pure bodyweight movements as a staple of my training. Gymnastics training =/= pure calisthenics if it involves weights, but that's not a bad thing. Loaded resistance (weight) training and calisthenics are complimentary.

              moron of the day award

              The squat is a bodyweight movement. It doesn't matter if you add 50 or 500 pounds, or none at all. It's still calisthenics. People that are strong with squats are strong with everything else for this reason. Same goes for pullups and dips.

              Does the barbell become part of your body? No its an external load.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rings
          inferior to regular bars

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. never used rings

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            And free weights are inferior to (smith) machines, right.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >weighted upper body calisthenics
          some of the most godly lifts
          >weighted lower body calisthenics
          extremely cringe. NOBODY has strong legs from calisthenics

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            read the fine print

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think machines were invented in teh first place?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh aesthetic
      What is this cope lmao
      All this to self-justify why a powerlifter chad could rape you unopposed if he so desired

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You won't do shit lmfao

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not unless you post some pics for me, pretty boy

          you cant ever stroke your micropenis for 1 minute without getting a heart attack lardass

          And you'd die under my superior form after I'm done using you, because you wouldn't have the strength to push my corpse off of yourself.
          You'd die of dehydration with my wiener in your ass unless someone found you.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm getting a erection

            Stop that. I'm at work

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aesthetics will always triumph of blobs of fat

        Saying that bodybuilding>calisthenics

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you cant ever stroke your micropenis for 1 minute without getting a heart attack lardass

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A guy with a six pack doing 10 pullups will mog a 20%+ BF powershitter DLing 4+ pl8 100% of the time.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          manlets that weight 160-180 deadlift 4plate. These threads have always been dyel cope
          > uh uh I can see my abs therefore im calisthetics and not a powerlifter! HUH b***h 1 plate thats too much
          Go watch goatis more to cope being lazy spergs

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Being obese is never okay tho

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >enters aesthetics thread
        >complains people are talking about aesthetics

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a powerlifter chad could rape you unopposed
        He'd gass out after 2 pumps. Also, can't rape what you can't outrun fatass.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >OINK OINK OINK!
        Didn't ask

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There goes IST making things gay out of nowhere again

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And you also have to be lean to do calisthenics
      skill issue. use bulking to progressive overload the basic moves

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >zero
      >zero
      >zero
      >zero

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      jesus

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So this... is the power of the world's strongest man.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is problem isn't strength. His core strength might be weak, but like all weight lifters he's probably just overweight.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't do single pull up

      Apologize

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        this idiot thought the bar was the point and not the handle height.

        0 reps + kipping lmao.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    chicken
    legs
    chicken legs

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they're more aesthetic because they are all very lean

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two major reasons:

    1. You're forced to stay lean if you want to do anything past beginner movements

    2. A lot of the major skills recruit muscles in your core that lifters usually miss.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only guys who can do holds like op pic, have to be both lean AND strong enough to do it, they couldnt even do it in case they arent
    There are strength athletes with same kind of aesthetics, but there are also many fat guys, because anybody can lay on bench and lift some weight, its even easier if you are fat

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also, there's nothing impressive about a fat strong guy.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's wrong though.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    closed chain movements require much more stabilization, so you end up working many more muscles doing calisthenics than weight lifting.

    You have to go out of your way and do 'functional' lifting to develop a body like those that are developed with calisthenics.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because calisthenics require you to be lean. Any fatass can permabulk and deadlift 500lbs in a year. It takes actual skill to be able to move your own bodyweight.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i see theres a bunch of broscientists in this thread

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't. They're just leaner then most weight loss since fat makes the exercise harder.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are not, muscles are muscles. The thing that determines how aesthetic you look is body fat level and muscle insertions.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should be doing both

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What’s going on big guy?

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    extra weight makes calisthenics harder

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leanness + compound movements which build more msucles than curl bros.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are more efficient
    Peak male performance is also peak aesthetics

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have a fancy floor to drag my feet on during an exercise.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >black people when cops tell them to get on the floor

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    high volume = more lactic acid = more muscle definition

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is the lactic acid what carves the muscle striations like an irrigation channel?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't even know what lactic acid is.

      Hint: it's actually called lactate and doesn't do what you think it does.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes it does

        high levels of lactate have been shown to induce endogenous hormounes such as testosterone and gh. you cant get that with low volume high intensity training

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are wrong none of that does anything to improve body composition
          there have been studies where subjects were injected with lactate and 0 body composition changes took place, which makes sense if you understand what causes muscle growth and fat loss

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            i would go as far as to say that makes no sense according to the literature

            if you increase your gh levels, i.e., literally growth hormone, that is going to stimulate muscle mass growth. not only that but gh mediates insuline like growth factors, the most anabolic of hormones

            now clearly if youre not causing myofilamental damage enough the growth is going to be minimal

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't read the thread, but I hope nobody is implying that this guy is natty.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because there's more to the human body than muscles and holding a pose for 5 minutes isn't going to hit everything.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its just some 50kg manlet with a pump. If you saw him irl you wouldnt know he worked out or did calisthenics

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      im under the impression most IST posters are fat and jealous

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Human flag isn't that hard if you're not fat or tall. I got there months before my first full front lever. You just need

    >practice a couple months
    >not be fat
    >not be tall

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You actually need long-ish limbs for it which are strong enough to hold your bodyweight without snapping, genetics.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This homie not natty. Look at his shoulders and bicep veins

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