Why should I stay natty in 2024?
I've lifted for 1 year and still look DYEL.
IST and demoralizationgays have convinced me that natty lifting is a complete waste of time.
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Why should I stay natty in 2024? I've lifted for 1 year and still look DYEL.
ok, go pin something then, we don't care.
you care enough to reply to this thread, crab
>Not validating your choices is crabbing
Lol roid troony meme is real
Please explain crabbing to a ESL
Crabs in a bucket, if a crab is about to escape the bucket, other crabs would drag it back down, dooming themselves, it's a metaphor for losers that try to avoid others from having success out of spite.
>creates a demoralization thread
>calls others crabs
short term gains are not worth the decrease in your life span. its a marathon not a race
im 26 already
26 is nothing dude
26 is your prime. Actually passing it. You could hsve already been the size you wanted with a few injections and been mogging in your prime but you're a pussy
If getting on roids now will get me social status, mires and 50+ partners that is worth living to 75 instead of 80.
honestly its a real question if you think the world is gonna end / some WW3 type shit is gonna pop anyway.
All nattys have is their "lifespan" but my fellow morons - if you are dead in a great flood in t-minus 10Y , what is this lifespan you speak of?
Honestly, the answer to the question is that the world is gonna end / some WW3 type shit is gonna pop anyway. How you think you're gonna be the top dog of the post-apocalyptic world, when you've conditioned your own very masculinity to be the slave to the techno-industrial system?
You think you pathetic natties will have test lvls when you're not sleeping or eating and all cracked and cortisol'd out? Lol that's cute.
>how you gonna be at the top of the dog pile when your body is conditioned to receive testosterone externally and supply chains are disrupted and you no longer have access to your stash?
aside from the dude with the shaved head the natties unironically look better than the juicers. the juicers take it too far
the entire left bottom row looks better than any of the roid freaks on the right
this
Post routine
I started with PPL, gained good strength from it after 6 months swapped to an Arnold split.
For me, PPL has always been less hypertrophic and more strengthening. I know PPL varies per person. I also think an Arnold split 6 months in like you did would constitute as overtraining, plus Arnold was on roids. I don’t think you’re genetically challenged enough to need to take roids
arnold split focuses more on hypertrophy and bodybuilding type of exercises
like having an arm day made my biceps grow way more
Yeah I don’t really have the time to be natural, I started lifting at 26.
feel the same, by the time we have a respectable physique we will be 30 which is grim
That 8 years natty guy is almost perfection, though. Maybe a bit too slim, but close.
thanks anon, still need to cut a bit of fat though
height, weight, routine, years of lifting diet? also verify yourself plox i don't believe you
182cm, probably around 76kg
i just do bro split for 35 mins and leave the gym
perma cutting because I suck at it, will lean bulk early 2024
heres another one
>years of lifting.
i'm the dumbest person here lmao.
thanks a lot anon. 76kg is a lot less than i anticipated.
what do you do for abs? my lower abs are garbage and what ever you do seems to be working pretty good
i literally started working abs a few months ago because I fell for the abs in the kitchen meme, so now I do incline ab crunch superset with either legs raise or cable crunch
I do it 5 days a week, just a few set until i can't do anymore or feel like leaving the gym
yeah i fell for the never abs meme too and hate training them since they're non existent. thanks anon. looking good
wait one more thing. you said 76kg. what are you doing for legs? i tend to hammer them too much i believe
I barely do legs, a few set of leg press, leg extension, and hamstring curl. calves raise if i'm feeling it. When I started lifting I used to love doing legs and did them a ton so i always had good legs, even though they kinda fell behind the upper body
interesting. i'll put this to good use. thanks again anon
big oof
start training legs twice a week or enjoy getting strength mogged by girls on lower body lifts
How are you getting mogged by girls i barely train legs and I’m weak af naturally and still lifting the same as or slightly more than most of them
I only train legs once a week, have chicken legs and I'm the only dude at my gym reppin 1plmao8 RDLs and SDLs for 12 even though the girls have bigger legs than me
>I didn't make the natty or roid list
yeah I'm thinkin I made it
post body
I have many times, in the same place as those in OPs pic, and because the weak gay who put together that collage didn't know if I was on gear or not, I'm not in it.
I have ascended and you cannot convince me otherwise
i think i know who you are, you are the guy who tells other anons not to train chest but hasnt posted ur "ascended" body yet
you keep posting ur ugly twink one
Nah not me, but keep asking for pictures of dudes on the internet and having twinks on the mind
I'd just install grindr or something if I were you anon, more to the point over there I'd assume
The answer to this question is blood pressure and self-respect. If you don't care about either, go ahead and inject.
honestly im more concerned about acne and hair loss than blood related issues
Some gallons of pussy juice is perhaps a reasonable prize to pay in exchange of your health
will roids help me get a gf?
yes
maybe? having a roidbody will help you get laid with vapid bawds but girls will also be disgusted if they find out you do roid which will be hard to hide from a long term gf
i dont really care about having a relationship, i just want to pump and dump bawds without much effort
can roids provide me that?
sure but you don't need roids for that either
yes, but you need to put in way more effort than someone with a jacked body
you don't need to put that much effort in for a one night stand you autist
you have to put effort into getting that night stand in first place
you really don't
not everyone is a giga chad like you, anon
literally just talk to them. maybe if you're a turbo manlet it might be hard but roids won't help with that
The 14 years one has to be bait
You can’t convince me otherwise
I’ve seen non lifters mog that body into oblivion
curse of the lanket, that guy is like 6'6
good look putting on mass without atleast 10 years of training if ur above 6'0
manlets keep winning
bro I knew an 6'3 actual functional meth head for years that had a much volumous Tyler Durden build without even lifting. Dude worked a warehouse cardio job picking packing pallets and ate whatever, still looked built.
It's not about height its about mass building genetics. Some people are just gifted.
Same homie stopped meth (god bless him) and is now sporting a chubby dad bod with beer gut lmao...Classic australiana body and experience.
Honestly super buff guys are a turn off, in the same vein that makeup on women are. I like natural.
>but how can you tell
Hypersensitive nose. (also the reason I don't like perfumes, they don't eliminate body odor just add another one on top of it).
It's common knowledge among the lgbt crowd that trannies smell different, this is because hormonal stuff. "excess" testosterone also changes your smell by the same metric.
>but anon you're weird I was asking about MUH AESTHETICS
I can only give you my own personal view on it.
Roiding up puts you in the same category as a super buff indian who still smells like shit and curry.
>Honestly super buff guys are a turn off, in the same vein that makeup on women are. I like natural.
how would you know homie, ur not a girl
they love roided up bodies with veins
some do, but for a lot it's too much. your average woman would consider most of the natties on the left to be jacked and have it be enough. not counting the 5 years and 10 years guys ofc.
I can find men's bodies attractive or unattractive without wanting to frick them, anon. The young female of today is the common sexual object, but back in the day it was the young male. The human body contains beauty in both its forms; and roiding out is a mockery of that natural beauty in the same way that obesity is.
3 years, 7 years and 8 years natty guys mog all the roiders
That's cope bro
Yo im the 7 years guy in the pic u just made me a lil happier brosky
Lol only thing they mog at is being skinny fatter..which is exactly the opposite you want from going to the gym. We get it tho you have low goals and will be happy to look like what most people start at
Did the 212 lbs guy document his cycles? Was it just one tren recomp?
That guy stack is crazy, if I remember correctly he was doing this:
2 HGH 10IU 1 Pack (10 vial x 10 IU) - Ultima
1 Deca
1 Prop
1 Tren A
1 Enan 250
1 Equipose
2 Masteron
1 Anavar
Pretty sure he competed in a show, according to him in /fraud/ days.
I've been lifting for a few years and I like staying natural. When you're natural, and you've been lifting for a couple of years at least, unless you're a genetic dead end, there's this sensation that a really good physique is just beyond the horizon for you. Just a little bit more muscle in the right places. If you roid you can get to a weird place where gaining more muscle won't make you look any better - which has got to be pretty weird psychologically. It's kind of like the carrot on the string in front of the horse except that you're also eating the carrot, but only a little bit of it. Like you're trying to reach the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and you're not quite there but you're having fun getting there.
Some of us have been delt a bad hand in life, we need every advantage we can get to make up for it
Biggest cope ever, literally comes down to effort, you can achieve anything you want as long as you put the effort in. Of course the roidcels in picrel look insane like that, they put in hard effort and also take a performance enhancing drug to help aid them in their goals.
You can still achieve a roider look while being natty as long as you aren't over 50. When you start getting a older you may require PEDs to achieve that insane appearance.
Picrel is enough to attract 99% of women. If you're still a virgin it just means you're ugly/short and no amount of roiding can fix that.
But the before pic is what i look like after 3 years of lifting
(5 days/week full body with 1 day of “light work” and 1 rest day for 1 year because “muh effort”, 5 days/week with 2 muscle groups each day and 2 rest days and 40+g/protein each day for 1 year because “it’s optimal”, 1 day/week full body + 3 days/week 2-3 muscle groups and cardio for 1 year because “listen to your body”)
40g protein a day? you need at least 0.5/lbs a day and you are most like to fat, that's why you look like shit. train for hypertrophy not str.
I prefer how left looks and I don't want to inject synthetic compounds into my body, so I'm staying natty.
Why do you bother lifting Tbh?
>I've lifted for 1 year and still look DYEL.
I wanna see that.
you ain't slick tryna hide the wormanon pic there even though he got a tank top on
im 6'6. being natty is NOT an option at all
You are an adult, do your reserch, reach your own conclussions and blast all the geat you fricking want, stop asking random anons what you should do with your body.
What's wrong with the natty lifters in your pic? What kind of expectations do you have?
it's just another demoralization post made by a fatty
Wtf, you can mog the natty lifters without even lifting, all you need to do is eat 12 eggs a day.
They're all extremely protein deficient.
post body , im sure u mog them right?
Are you lifting only for mires?
I might be dyel according to (You).
But I look much better than me 1 year ago.
And the future me will mog the current me.
It's that simple.
show me those roiders in ten years tho
Just start slow with some test to see. And hopefully you know some juicers in real life. Seeing them in pictures hides how freakishly huge they are. When you see them next to normal people, they look weird. Also at a certain point, they walk like toddlers.
that is what im planning, 500mg